[VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Grant Ingersoll
Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote. Since this is our first release, extra attention to detail is appreciated. You can find the artifacts at http://people.apache.org/~kwright/ Thanks, Grant

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Grant, Is this a source or binary release? How are you guys making the release? Using Ant or Maven? Can you guys provide a KEYS and CHANGES.txt file as part of the release artifacts? Cheers, Chris On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
Answering on Grant's behalf, the ManifoldCF artifact contains both source and binary, and the KEYS and CHANGES.txt files are within the artifact, as seems to be standard Apache practice. You just need to untar/unzip it. Karl On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Karl, On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Karl Wright wrote: Answering on Grant's behalf, the ManifoldCF artifact contains both source and binary, and the KEYS and CHANGES.txt files are within the artifact, as seems to be standard Apache practice. Well I won't say it's standard Apache practice in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
I am happy to provide clear-text versions of KEYS and CHANGES.txt if that is what you require. I've just never seen any other Apache project that did that. As for whether there should be separate source and binary distributions, bear in mind that a binary-only distribution of ManifoldCF makes

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The download size of sources alone is about 32M for each .zip/.tar.gz. I can't upload CHANGES.txt or KEYS to people.apache.org right now because of a firewall restriction, so I've attached the files for your convenience. Karl On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 16:10, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: I am happy to provide clear-text versions of KEYS and CHANGES.txt if that is what you require.  I've just never seen any other Apache project that did that. All Apache releases require pgp signatures, and the KEYS file must contain

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The key should also be added to a pgp key server. The key has already been added to the MIT web of trust - I presume that is what you meant? AIUI there must be a source distribution; the binary distribution is optional. The consumer should not be forced to download the binary distribution

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 13:12, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first release, extra attention to detail is appreciated. You can find the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 17:34, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: The key should also be added to a pgp key server. The key has already been added to the MIT web of trust - I presume that is what you meant? Yes, I meant that the key should be retrievable from a pgp key server - which it is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 18:03, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 January 2011 13:12, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first release, extra

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
Very well; we will discontinue all binary distributions. That's not what I said. You can have a binary distribution if you wish, but there must be a source distribution. As I said before, it makes no sense to distribute ManifoldCF binaries without complete sources. So we could (I suppose)

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
Also, the NOTICE and LICENSE files don't seem to be quite right. The NOTICE file is for required notices only; so for example there is no need to mention other ASF projects. The LICENSE file references JUnit, which does not need to be distributed, so is not needed in the LICENSE. These

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The md5 hash file has an odd syntax, which makes it harder to use with automated checking tools. apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubator.zip: A3 3E 0A 9F 58 94 DC 64  F7 B3 ED DB 63 2E                                     CB EF The standard format is a33e0a9f5894dc64f7b3eddb632ecbef

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 18:23, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Very well; we will discontinue all binary distributions. That's not what I said. You can have a binary distribution if you wish, but there must be a source distribution. As I said before, it makes no sense to distribute

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The whole question of ease-of-use is what drove this packaging arrangement. I was told it was unacceptable to not have a working example out of the box that could be executed in a single line. Build and execution Instructions which involve obtaining a couple of dozen jars from other places do

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Karl, On Jan 6, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Karl Wright wrote: The whole question of ease-of-use is what drove this packaging arrangement. I was told it was unacceptable to not have a working example out of the box that could be executed in a single line. Build and execution Instructions which

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
It's unacceptable to not release software according to Apache guidelines. There's some flexibility in those guidelines (whether to include a binary release or not, whether to include jar files in a distro or use Maven, etc.), and then there's not (must include a source release; must have a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first release, extra attention to detail is appreciated. You can find the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Karl, It's all the same license. The dependent jars are copied into the appropriate target locations by the build process. So without the build, you have one copy of each dependent jar. Cool, thanks. It's a huge issue everywhere. Your release will be mirrored around the world using

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
Where is the SVN tag for the release? On 6 January 2011 13:12, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote: Hi, The Apache ManifoldCF community has voted to release our first set of artifacts and now would like an Incubator vote.  Since this is our first release, extra attention to detail is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
Since this is a release candidate, and the release has not yet been signed off, the tag has not yet been created. There is, however, a release branch, from which the release candidates get built. When the sign off occurs, the tag will be created from that branch. Karl On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at

Confusing naming of Manifold Connector Framework resources

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
It's quite difficult finding the resources for the Manifold Connector Framework. The Incubator web-site is at: http://incubator.apache.org/connectors/ SVN appears to be at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/ The Java package is org.apache.manifoldcf So the project currently

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 20:06, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: Since this is a release candidate, and the release has not yet been signed off, the tag has not yet been created.  There is, however, a release branch, from which the release candidates get built.  When the sign off occurs, the tag

Re: Confusing naming of Manifold Connector Framework resources

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The official name of the project has changed repeatedly. The current official name is ManifoldCF. The community expects to change both the SVN root and the web-site root upon incubation in any case, which is why we have not changed either of these yet. A bigger area of concern is the prefix

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
Yes, that is the correct branch. If there is an official Apache tagging strategy, I'm fine with that. Heretofore I've been using the MetaCarta release tagging strategy, which was partly gated on a restriction in the MetaCarta svn setup that prevented tags from being renamed or deleted. Your

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The failure to build occurs because the directory it is complaining about doesn't seem to exist after the zip is unpacked. The directory is empty at the time of the build. It's not clear whether the problem is the built zip itself or the way you are unpacking it. I'll need to look into this

Re: Confusing naming of Manifold Connector Framework resources

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 20:29, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: The official name of the project has changed repeatedly.  The current official name is ManifoldCF.  The community expects to change both the SVN root and the web-site root upon incubation in any case, which is why we have not

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 20:41, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: The failure to build occurs because the directory it is complaining about doesn't seem to exist after the zip is unpacked.  The directory is empty at the time of the build.  It's not clear whether the problem is the built zip

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
Just noticed that there are a lot of source files without AL headers. The RAT tool can detect these for you. Also, there should normally be a DISCLAIMER file at the top-level of archives and SVN trees. It's simpler to have this in a separate file, which can then just be deleted upon graduation.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread David Crossley
Karl Wright wrote: Very well; we will discontinue all binary distributions. One major problem will therefore be that we rely on Apache Forrest to build the documentation pages. Forrest requires Java 1.5. The availability of documentation in the release will therefore depend on the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
We've been using the RAT tool. The files without headers are in part Microsoft project files, which cannot have headers added without breaking them. Also, we build JSON sources, which are licensed with an accepted JSON license that RAT does not recognize. I've captured a lot of these exceptions

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread sebb
On 6 January 2011 22:38, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote: We've been using the RAT tool. In which case it would be helpful to provide the RAT report(s). The files without headers are in part Microsoft project files, which cannot have headers added without breaking them.  Also, we build

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The .cs files are maintained by Visual Studio and you cannot change the format if you want them to keep working. Same with the .map file. I will add them to exclusions for the rat target The .tld's were taken from Apache Tomcat, but did not include Apache headers. I am not sure what I should

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
They were downloaded from the jakarta standard taglibs 1.1.2, from this URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_taglibs-standard.cgi The project was folded into tomcat, but I simply used the tag libraries from the separately-bundled artifact. It turns out that the Apache headers

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-06 Thread Karl Wright
The RAT report after these changes looks good except for two files, which come from the skins in the site: [rat:report] Unapproved licenses: [rat:report] [rat:report] C:/wip/mcf-release/release-0.1-branch/site/src/documentation/skins/common/xslt/html/split.xsl [rat:report]