Re: [VOTE] Release Apache HAWQ 2.1.0.0-incubating (RC4)

2017-02-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
+1 (binding) Verified hashes and sigs Reviewed DISCLAIMER, README.md, and LICENSE Cheers. -- justin On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Ed Espino wrote: > Hello Incubator PMC (IPMC), > > The Apache HAWQ community has voted on and approved a proposal to > release Apache HAWQ

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-15 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Rich Bowen wrote: > No. I can use whatever criteria I like to justify my vote on a podlings > graduation, if it's in line with asf philosophy. This document is, and > accurately reflects the criteria I use when voting on a graduation. That >

Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation

2015-11-05 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Correct. It is a tool, but not a requirement (at least not yet). > And since I repeatedly suggested this tool on this thread let me explain why. And, this is the root of my concern expressed in the other general@

Re: maturity guidelines (was Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and graduation)

2015-11-05 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > ...that brought us to our current, much less forceful, treatment > of the maturity model. Which is what I (and a few others including > it seems yourself) have been advocating on *this* thread. I took the tenor of

Re: Mentor disengagement - a suggestion

2015-11-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
I will just note that I disagree with adding bureaucracy like this. We already require podlings to submit reports as frequently as monthly. (Geode somehow had to report monthly for no discernible reason.) This further adds to the burden on being a mentor - probably to something like being a

Re: [DISCUSS] [REVISED] Mentor neutrality policy

2015-10-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > First off: Can we *please* focus on the revised proposal and not get > into a loop about the original email? I'll change the topic if that helps. > > The revised edition, as partly suggested by Sam (and echoed by

Re: [VOTE] Accept HAWQ into the Apache Incubator

2015-08-31 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
with Docker support. > > == Initial Committers == > * Lirong Jian > * Hubert Huan Zhang > * Radar Da Lei > * Ivan Yanqing Weng > * Zhanwei Wang > * Yi Jin > * Lili Ma > * Jiali Yao > * Zhenglin Tao > * Ruilong Huo > * Ming Li > * Wen

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: I would much prefer a smaller list of initial committers who have been identified as having experience or a solid potential to be ASF committers, and let others be elected based on merit as the project progresses.

Re: [DISCUSS] HAWQ Incubation Proposal

2015-08-27 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! I would like to start a discussion on accepting HAWQ into ASF Incubator. The proposal is available at: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HAWQProposal and is also attached to the end of this email. If HAWQ

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: There is nothing preventing clearly identifiable non-release artifacts available to the general public. Many projects

Re: [DISCUSS] Communicating intent around non-release, downstream integration binary artifacts

2015-06-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote: While I agree that this is a general issue that should be discussed, an example might help. This discussion started because the Geode PMC is publishing a docker artifact from their nightly builds and then pointing the

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator

2015-06-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: It is vexed because when pronounced by many people, it sounds almost identical to how those same people would pronounce Mesos. That can lead to confusion. As there has been no trademark confusion raised, I would

Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator

2015-05-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote: Based on the earlier discussion in thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE to accept Mysos, an Apache Mesos framework for running MySQL instances, as a new Apache Incubator project. The proposal is available on the wiki

Re: [VOTE] Accept Trafodion into Apache Incubator

2015-05-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Stack st...@duboce.net wrote: Following the discussion earlier in the thread [1], I would like to call a VOTE to accept Trafodion as a new Apache Incubator project. The proposal is available on the wiki at [2] and is also attached to this mail. The VOTE is

Re: [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.1.0 release (RC5)

2015-05-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 20.05.2015 00:44, Justin Mclean wrote: Hi, +0 (binding) from me until these 2 issues are resolved. Of course other IPMC members may vote differently. Several bundled files have GPL license headers e.g.

Re: [VOTE] Accept Geode into the Apache Incubator

2015-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
* Jianxia Chen * John Blum * Justin Erenkrantz * Ketan Deshpande * Kirk Lund * Kishor Bachhav * Konstantin Boudnik * Konstantin Ignatyev * Lise Storc * Luke Shannon * Lyndon Adams * Lynn Gallinat * Lynn Hughes-Godfrey * Mark Bretl * Michael Schubert

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Atlas for Data Governance on Hadoop

2015-04-15 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: I hate to be a pissant, but why does it follow that new code has to be implemented in private? Building community can start with the first semi-colon. It doesn't have to wait until the code is frozen. We were having

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: If I understand the response below correctly you misspoke when you said there were export issues. That in fact there is no related export restriction, it's actually about the licensing issue. If

Re: [DISCUSS] Geode Incubation proposal

2015-04-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 13 Apr 2015, at 06:39, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is common to take a quick look at code coming in. In To be clear, there were conversations with Jim (as VP Legal) prior to this submission. The ASF wouldn't accept the software grant until the Incubator approved

Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-12 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need for votes from

Re: [VOTE] OODT Graduation to TLP

2010-11-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Please VOTE on the below resolution for promoting OODT to an Apache TLP and graduating from the Incubator. The VOTE is open for 72 hrs. [ ] +1 Accept OODT's graduation from the Incubator [ ] +0

Re: [VOTE] Apache OODT 0.1-incubating release (rc4)

2010-11-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 5:29 PM, david woollard wooll...@gmail.com wrote: [X] +1 Release the packages as Apache OODT 0.1-incubating Just did a visual comparison (diff -ru) between RC1 and RC4. Changes look fine. +1 for release. Thanks. -- justin

Re: [VOTE] Apache OODT 0.1-incubating release (rc4)

2010-11-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: The release doesn't need to be tagged? It's...uh...version controlled. So, it's still easy to create a tag: svn cp https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/oodt/branches/0.1-incubat...@1029464

Re: No dev-, user- lists for small podlings (was: Re: [PROPOSAL] Kitty to Enter the Incubator)

2010-09-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: For reference: * Subversion created its dev list in April 2000. * The user list was created in July 2003. 238 messages were posted that month. As you can see, we waited a very long time before sending users to their own

Re: Name change from Lucene Connectors Framework to Apache Connectors Framework

2010-08-24 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: If the name is going to change (which sounds like a good idea) I'd suggest going for something more abstract, to which you can give meaning: Apache Connecto, or some such. +1. -- justin

Re: [VOTE] experimental delegation of new committer votes to PPMC

2010-08-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Now that the board has declared there are no legal obstacles to what I have proposed, I'd like to restart the vote. +1. -- justin - To unsubscribe,

Re: an experiment

2010-08-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Gav... ga...@16degrees.com.au wrote: have something to say about it. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned about the Incubator PMC Chair up until now (actually I'm not, and I bet that no one steps up to agree with me here, I expect to be alone in my opinion.) I

Re: Radical revamp

2010-08-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Agreed, but I will claim that my proposal has worked successfully for httpd, so it's not coming out of the clear blue sky.  Perhaps you're onto something, that diversifying the podling incubation process so we can pick

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: And if the Mentors aren't being active, voting, etc., then *that* is what needs to be addressed. As I've repeatedly stated before (here and elsewhere), in the podlings I've been recently involved with, having three mentors

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Perhaps that's true for the projects you work on, but it certainly isn't true of Thrift, where mentorship has been a revolving door for years. True. I've never been a big fan of requiring 3 mentors - as I think

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Where are you seeing this over-reach problem to which you refer?  I have heard of a few isolated incidents, and those can be addressed.  But by far and way, the biggest complaint is LACK of involvement, e.g., ... And

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: What happened? It's all in the archives, but a quick recap. For Subversion, an Incubator PMC member who was never involved in the SVN community jumped in the middle of a committer vote to vote -1. Greg wrote a cranky

Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment)

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hey Guys, I suspect the OODT guys might want to try this (it has four ASF Members as Mentors who could comprise the PMC). Subversion would have done this, based on my own thoughts/experiences and

Re: an experiment

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: I've already decided that I'm going to have to recruit a number of key mentors to help me protect the project during incubation. Historically, I think there are two classes of podlings: - one which has a self-governing

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
[ CCing gene...@incubator as I think I can now place my finger a bit as to why I'm discomforted with Greg's proposal in the OODT context ; and more importantly, another potential experiment at the end; leaving context in for those on gene...@incubator ] On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mattmann,

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: So basically you are moving more towards Joe's proposal, that the PPMC would have the binding VOTEs in e.g., new committers/PMC members, and on releases? Of course, with the caveats below, as you

Re: [DISCUSS] OODT Podling Incubator Experiment (was Re: Radical revamp (was: an experiment))

2010-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: You know when to vote and *how* to vote. I see no reason to deny your vote. Of course. It's always seemed awkward if you can't contribute technically to suddenly have a binding vote. I'm sure if I *wanted* to learn how to

Re: an experiment

2010-08-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Joe, The first idea should be fairly straightforward: that for the projects I participate in (so far thrift and sis), that the IPMC delegates to the PPMC the decision-making process for voting

Re: Future of RAT

2010-08-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: It is *very* true that Infra, Legal, and (all?) ASF PMCs will be clients/users of the tool. But are they interested in its development? If it goes under infra (as some are pushing for), then Joe gets to rewrite it in Perl.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Zeta Components

2010-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Tobias Schlitt tob...@schlitt.info wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, please find below our proposal for Zeta Components. The proposal is also available in the wiki:        http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ZetaComponentsProposal

Re: [VOTE] Apache UIMA as a TLP

2010-02-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Marshall Schor m...@schor.com wrote: [X] +1 to recommend UIMA's graduation Good luck! -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands,

Re: [VOTE] Subversion podling for graduation

2010-02-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thursday, February 11, 2010, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I started a discussion thread a week-ish ago to seek out issues for Subversion's graduation. The couple bits that were raised[1] have been handled, I believe. So with that said, I am unaware of any potential

Re: (Is|Was) PHP part of ASF?

2010-02-10 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Kamesh Jayachandran kam...@collab.net wrote: I ask this as I was involved in PHP development 5 years back and am never aware of PHP being part of ASF. PHP was a sister project for a long while - after we moved to the Apache License v.2, the PHP Group decided

Re: Source code dumps via JIRA?

2010-02-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote: For most projects they just put a URL in the jira, and Joe just imports it. So, is this just a failure of the documentation to reflect what is actually done? If so, I'm happy to update the documentation. -- justin

Source code dumps via JIRA?

2010-02-08 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
For OODT, we think we want to import the prior history of the project into the podling via a Subversion dump file. However, in: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump it says: --- In either case, the code to be imported should be attached to a JIRA and then

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-05 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote: It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a branch, and the live site off trunk, or vice versa. (possible, but I wouldn't recommend it, merging html changes like that is pretty meh) I think we pretty

Re: New project

2010-02-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Peter pfran...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I have 2 projects, both alpha and written in C++, that I am considering making open source. I would like to know whether you are interested in hosting them as projects and what support you can give me. You can see the

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Does 'svnpubsub' also dispense with the hourly rsync step to truly be live. i.e. http://apache.org/dev/project-site.html find-in-page: rsync Yes. Is there a description of svnpubsub? Other than:

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 (OODT Developers general@incubator.apache.org)

2010-02-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi All, A draft OODT report has been submitted to the Incubator wiki. Comments/updates from mentors and from the OODT/incubator community are welcome. Cool - thanks! I made some minor tweaks, so

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 (OODT Developers general@incubator.apache.org)

2010-02-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Thanks Justin! I went ahead and updated the incubator site oodt.xml document in incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/oodt.xml with the February 2010 report based off the wiki:

Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Hi general@, I'd like to suggest switching incubator.apache.org over to svnpubsub. (We can do so by filing a JIRA like INFRA-2349: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2349) This would mean that any commits made to the site-publish tree would automatically be deployed to the site. No more

Re: Switching incubator.apache.org to svnpubsub?

2010-02-02 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: +1 from me on this - I'd see the OODT changes more quickly, right? Indeed! Your note re: OODT is what triggered me to send this email. =P -- justin

Re: Web site updates

2010-01-25 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Thanks, Justin.  I appreciate the work that you just committed.  Looked reasonable to me.  I hope that others have also reviewed it. I certainly don't intend for any of my changes to alter policy - just make some wording

Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: Per the previous proposal that was sent to gene...@incubator, I'd like to now call a vote for accepting OODT into the Incubator. [ ] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator [ ] -1 - Do not accept OODT

[VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
| bfoster at jpl dot nasa dot gov | NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory | no Sean McCleese | smcclees at jpl dot nasa dot gov | NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory | no Sponsors Champion Justin Erenkrantz (jerenkrantz at apache dot org) Nominated Mentors Justin Erenkrantz (jerenkrantz at apache dot org

Re: Missing reports due NOW

2010-01-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Missing:        Subversion Hmm. Something went wrong with the automated notifier as this ball got dropped, I guess. Subversion should have something submitted by this evening. -- justin

Re: [VOTE] Accept OODT for Incubation

2010-01-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: Per the previous proposal that was sent to gene...@incubator, I'd like to now call a vote for accepting OODT into the Incubator. [X] +1 - Accept OODT into the Incubator [ ] -1 - Do not accept OODT

Re: [PROPOSAL] OODT: a grid middleware framework for science data processing, information integration, and retrieval

2010-01-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:45 PM, jean-frederic clere jfcl...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/06/2010 10:56 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Count me in as a mentor for this excellent proposal. If you still need more mentors count on me too. Thanks - I've added you and Ian to the proposal. (Ross already added

[PROPOSAL] OODT: a grid middleware framework for science data processing, information integration, and retrieval

2010-01-04 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Laboratory | no Sponsors Champion * Justin Erenkrantz (jerenkrantz at apache dot org) Nominated Mentors * Justin Erenkrantz (jerenkrantz at apache dot org) Sponsoring Entity * Apache Incubator - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Christopher Brind bri...@brindy.org.uk wrote: I can understand why Subversion should be made a top level project quickly, but I personally believe the namespace change is a reasonable request in order to graduate for all the same reasons that convinced me Pivot

Re: JavaHL package namespace / migration / compatability

2009-11-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: There is a more practical reason for this. If I have a need to debug a package or get further documentation, the package name gives me a pointer as to where to look. If tigris.org disappeared users would get very

Re: svn status update (was: svn commit: r880911 [1/13] - in /subversion/trunk: ./ build/ build/generator/ build/win32/ notes/obliterate/ packages/python-windows/ packages/windows-WiX/BuildSubversion

2009-11-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Branko Čibej br...@xbc.nu wrote: Is there any way to make RAT slightly smarter so that it doesn't require license headers in README files and such? http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/rat/main/trunk/ *duck* Does policy dictate these files must have

Re: Review-Then-Commit

2009-11-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: I've participated in both styles of development. RTC is *stifling*. I would never want to see that in any Apache community for its routine development (branch releases are another matter). My opinion is that it is very

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings how to work here at Apache. ... The Incubator PMC is here to TEACH podlings. Stop and think before attempting to apply rules and procedures. +1. The

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martijn Dashorst martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote: To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole. Nope

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: Also, to be clear, as an IPMC member I spend quite a bit of time with projects where I am not a mentor, casting (binding) votes on things like their releases. I will continue to do that, inline with procedure and policy and

Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)

2009-11-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: OTOH, podlings that don't have 3 active mentors can't get 3 binding votes internally, so IPMC members have to jump in sometimes. Thanks to those of us who do! I view the proposal accepting the projects with the

Re: [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion

2009-11-04 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
a number of ASF Members amongst its committers. Sponsors  * Champion: Greg Stein  * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel Rall +1 for acceptance. w...0...0...t. =) -- justin

Re: [VOTE] Accept Libcloud proposal for incubation

2009-10-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Paul Querna p...@querna.org wrote: Please cast your votes: [X] +1 Accept Libcloud for incubation [ ] +0 Indifferent to Libcloud incubation [ ] -1 Reject Libcloud for incubation Vote Closes 72 hours from now. Good luck! -- justin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-09 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@yahoo.com wrote: The Commons Incubator would act as a perpetual podling or mini-Incubator overseeing the influx of components to be adopted into Apache Commons. -1 (vote, not veto). If Commons PMC wants to import code, then it can file IP

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private list, it seems everyone is in favor of this, so I'd like to propose that we ask the board to make Abdera a new TLP. It's been quite the long incubation

Re: Possible software grant for POI

2008-09-26 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:03 AM, Nick Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the process as documented at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html the correct one to follow for this? Yup. -- justin - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] Catacomb

2008-09-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Justin, we would be glad to welcome you as a mentor for catacomb incubation process! Your idea to fold catacomb into the HTTP Server Project is realy nice, maybe later in the incubation process we could start a discussion

Re: status of PGP support in Maven

2008-09-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we include the signatures in the source distros? That way if you trust your source, then you can trust the dependencies it downloads. Eww. That'd be a giant gaping security hole. -- justin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Catacomb

2008-09-19 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a proposal to enter the incubator. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/CatacombProposal for the most up-to-date version. Nifty! As Champion we have Gianugo Rabellino gianugo at apache.org from the ASF. We look forward

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: -1 I believe that allowing incubating releases to be treated as full Apache releases diminishes the Apache brand and makes incubation disclaimers moot. With Maven, it is too easy to depend

Re: [VOTE] [POLICY] Allow extra release distribution channels like the central Maven repository

2008-09-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just so everyone understands this in context, the objection above is moot because... No, it's not. Anything that creates an impetus for a podling to get out of the Incubator is goodness. Too many podlings view the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tashi

2008-07-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really don't see what the problem is here, there are two named committers in the proposal. Whatever the interests of the companies they work for, Tashi will have to create a healthy community to graduate and I don't

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?

2008-07-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my question is, if Apache is about Community over code, why are we putting up barriers to getting the code if that is also creating barriers to building the community? Apache isn't about 'community over code'. The code

Re: [DISCUSS] Do we really need an incubator?

2008-07-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh? The only difference I know of is the possible presence of external dependencies on LGPL code, which is not a legal question at all. All legal issues are satisfied before we even let the code be imported, let alone

Re: Again: The Maven Repository

2008-07-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be very surprised if it does close the issue :)... IMHO voting about where to put incubator Maven artifacts is a majority vote among of

Re: INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers

2008-06-04 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you see infra checking that the account requests that they receive have been voted on according to this procedure? The account reqs from the PPMC should CC Incubator PMC. So, the responsibility is on the

INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers

2008-06-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have: --- Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the podling's private

Re: INCUBATOR-57 aka IPMC votes to ratify PPMC committers

2008-06-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Davanum Srinivas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick question, haven't thought thru, but raising it here...Does it make sense to align voting in a new committer with Voting in a new PPMC member? (on the same page)? Makes sense to me. The policy for IPMC oversight

Re: Size of websites in incubator.apache.org

2008-04-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AIUI using the top level .htaccess is better for performance so that's what i recommend (but hopefully someone will jump in and correct me if +1. (Not having .htaccess at all is actually best; but that requires

Re: Size of websites in incubator.apache.org

2008-04-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Tony Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Is the prefereed method of handling these, moving them to archive.a.o/incubator.a.o/($podling)/ ?? Or is there an alternate location? If the projects have indeed graduated, and they already have

Re: Subversion vs other source control systems

2008-02-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Feb 18, 2008 1:01 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the last time i tried SVK, changes would be needed to SVK before it could work with a repository as big as apache FWIW, the partial svnsync changes that SVK would need are present in 1.5. I don't know if the SVK community

Re: Subversion vs other source control systems

2008-02-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Feb 17, 2008 7:51 AM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But visibility of the content and process very much IS part of the Apache Way. Most of the use cases mentioned so far for git, including some where people are using it on top of SVN with ASF projects, run counter to ASF

Re: Subversion vs other source control systems

2008-02-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Feb 17, 2008 3:34 PM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also: you keep a long term branch for doing some refactoring, and you fix small bugs both in HEAD and in a release branch, merging and backporting/forwardporting as you go. Again, something like git makes the work simpler and

Re: Board Resolution - Promote Apache Synapse to a Top Level Project

2007-12-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Dec 6, 2007 7:09 PM, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Apache Synapse project (part of the Web Services PMC) and the Web Services PMC would respectfully like to propose the following resolution for review by the Board at the December meeting. Both communities have voted to propose

Re: Board Resolution - Promote Apache Synapse to a Top Level Project

2007-12-07 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Dec 7, 2007 1:36 AM, Martijn Dashorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK, Synapse has graduated on Jan 2, 2007 9:43 AM to a sub project of the WS TLP. Therefore the resolution doesn't involve the incubator anymore. I think the confusion comes from the tuscany graduation vote a couple of weeks

Re: [VOTE] Allow podling members to set up their own infra

2007-11-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Nov 21, 2007 5:03 PM, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there has been no discussion, and this is a change to policy, I'd like to formally propose adopting the policy change in https:// issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-71 [ ] +1 Allow podlings with karma to set up their

Re: [VOTE] Accept Composer in the Incubator

2007-10-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 22, 2007 12:13 AM, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] +1 Accept Composer project for incubation Try try try again. =) Best of luck to ya'll. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Graduation: how do we check three or more independent committers ?

2007-10-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 10/16/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d) Which other committers do you have a backchannel with, i.e. who do you regularly talk to outside of the project's mailing lists? I think d) is also an important measure of independence, as it's hard for people who meet for coffee

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 13, 2007 12:38 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to see the legal stuff resolved first. I don't believe that we should release a project with existing copyright issues. If this were to mean that stdcxx graduation would wait until November's Board meeting, I'd

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 13, 2007 4:28 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel that we start down a slippery slope when we graduate projects which are not yet compliant, but will be. When? Craig points out that it has been some months since the issue was raised by you, and it is still not

Re: [VOTE] graduate stdcxx to TLP

2007-10-11 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 11, 2007 6:51 PM, Martin Sebor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After over two years in the incubator, two releases under our belt (one snapshot and one official release) and a third one coming, the stdcxx community with the support of our mentors feel that we are ready to propose to the

Re: [VOTE][policy] Release Distribution Directory

2007-10-08 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Oct 8, 2007 10:14 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --8--- [X] +1 Insist that releases are distributed within http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator

Re: September 2007 Incubator Board Report

2007-09-17 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 9/17/07, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was past our 48hour cutoff and, as is usually the case for the Incubator reports, pretty long. You are the shep for the Incubator this month. I am leaning towards not accepting this but if, as shepherd, you feel comfortable with it being

Re: Do we meet the definition of ECCN 5D002 ?

2007-08-16 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 8/16/07, Gilles Scokart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just found [1], and I was wonderiing if we don't fall under the definition of ECCN 5D002 for our binary distribution with deps. In this distribution we include binaries that support https, sft and ssh (and maybe other via vfs). If you

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