Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Ross Gardler
A discussion on the private list (about some individuals, hence private) has turned to a useful generic topic. It has been suggested that that part come here, so here it is (with permission from authors, the only edit is to remove the original subject which had a personal name in it) --

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 01:54:18PM +, Ross Gardler wrote: My point is that when we help guide individuals who demonstrate a willingness to contribute those individuals often grow in capacity. There was a memorable post on another ASF list a few months ago which compared Apache's

RE: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Prescott Nasser
+1 From: Marvin Humphrey Sent: 2/1/2012 8:06 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 01:54:18PM +, Ross Gardler wrote: My point is that when we help guide individuals who

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread sebb
On 1 February 2012 15:54, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 01:54:18PM +, Ross Gardler wrote: My point is that when we help guide individuals who demonstrate a willingness to contribute those individuals often grow in capacity. There was a memorable

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: sebb seb...@gmail.com To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects On 1 February 2012 15:54, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 01

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:32:23AM -0800, Joe Schaefer wrote: I believe this is what Marvin is alluding to when he points out that compentent IPMC oversight is little more than an illusive myth on most of our podlings. A PPMC member, by virtue of their deep familiarity with the code base and

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:32:23AM

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Ross Gardler
joe_schae...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:32:23AM -0800, Joe Schaefer wrote:  I believe this is what Marvin is alluding to when he points out that  compentent IPMC oversight

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Joe Schaefer
...@yahoo.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects Joe, can you please restate (or link to the archives) the intent and practice of your experiment Ross On 1 February 2012 22:02, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Ross Gardler
@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com  Cc:  Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 3:03 PM  Subject: Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects  On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:32:23AM -0800, Joe Schaefer wrote:   I believe this is what Marvin is alluding to when he points out

Re: Fwd: mentoring individuals as well as projects

2012-02-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:15:53PM +, Ross Gardler wrote: On 1 February 2012 22:13, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Link:  http://s.apache.org/qsY It's worthwhile to review the entire surrounding thread in August 2010 for IPMC members to avoid rehashing old arguments.