Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-03 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: On 02/06/2011 14:43, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Brouwersimon.o...@xs4all.nl  wrote on 06/02/2011 09:21:53 AM: snip What isn't clear to me are things like the following: 1) A strong QA member, who does manual

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-03 Thread Benson Margulies
instead of to the whole shebang. Bah. Outdated concept. In Apache Subversion, we simply ask the committer to constrain themselves to certain areas. No need to get technical about it. The trust metric applies very well, *especially* when it is version control and changes can be reverted :-P

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-03 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 17:05, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:  instead of to the whole shebang. Bah. Outdated concept. In Apache Subversion, we simply ask the committer to constrain themselves to certain areas. No need to get technical about it. The trust metric applies very

OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-02 Thread robert_weir
Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote on 06/02/2011 09:21:53 AM: Should we add ourselfs as commiters? If you would like to contribute here (possibly instead of, or in addition, to your work at TDF), then yes! Please add yourself into the proposal on the wiki. I had already been so

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-02 Thread Rich Bowen
On Jun 2, 2011, at 9:43 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: What isn't clear to me are things like the following: 1) A strong QA member, who does manual testing, enters defect reports, does smoke tests, etc. How do they advance in the meritocracy? Is there any opportunity for them to

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-02 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 09:43, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Simon Brouwer simon.o...@xs4all.nl wrote on 06/02/2011 09:21:53 AM: ... Some concern has been expressed that, if the meritocratic system in Apache is based on code contribution only, those community members are not able to fully

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Meritocracy and Committers for non-coders?

2011-06-02 Thread Ralph Goers
Every Apache project's PMC has a duty and responsibility to award commit privileges to individuals who contribute to the project and, when warranted, invite those people to participate in the project management committee. The conditions the PMC chooses to use to base their decisions on who to