+1, nice work folks!
cheers,
Leo
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Eric Evans eev...@rackspace.com wrote:
The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
Cassandra 0.4.2. We would now like to request the approval of the
Incubator PMC for this release.
Cassandra is a
+1 from me!
cheers,
Leo
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Gallardo
nickgalla...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Wink community has voted on and approved the release
of Wink 1.0 (RC-5). We would now like to request the
approval of the Incubator PMC for this release.
Details of the Wink
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
PS: +1 to start incubation obviously. The record is 2 weeks set for
MerlinDeveloper back in 2003...you have 9 days left to try and beat it
Hey, you
Leo Simons wrote:
I have no idea what might be going on in your head, but from where I
sit, it seems like you might be overreacting just a _bit_ to a
tongue-in-cheek e-mail post script. Have some green tea.
There were also some suggestions about us making a release for the sake
of making a
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
So what are you teaching with e-mails like this, Greg?
When you disagree with someone, SHOUT a bit and write a long rant?
Or
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
...
The Incubator PMC is here to TEACH podlings. Stop and think before
attempting to apply rules and procedures.
+1.
The
Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.
In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink
community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need
one more +1 to release as the vote has already been open for 72 hours.
Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere -
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 09:14, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
how to work here at Apache.
So what are you teaching with e-mails like this, Greg?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.
Nope... The whole IPMC has been tasked with oversight. The mentors are
proxies for the whole IPMC.
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is
done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence
to our policies which you and others have crafted. *All* podlings have
to ensure they have the correct licensing headers, notices and other
bits in place before
Looks good to me +1
...ant
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.comwrote:
Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.
In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink
community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just
On Nov 9, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Nicholas L Gallardo wrote:
Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.
In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the
Wink community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we
just need one more +1 to release as the vote has
Thanks Ant. Do you have any input on the question below?
Is that vote [mentor/IPMC member] transportable here?
Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere - REST WebServices Development
nlgal...@us.ibm.com
Phone: 512-286-6258
Building: 903 / 5G-016
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 09:27, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is
done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence
to our policies which you and others have crafted. *All* podlings have
to
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Thanks Leo, your input is much appreciated.
In addition to this +1, we received a +1 from Kevan Miller in the Wink
community vote. Is that vote transportable here? If so, then we just need one
more +1 to release
Yep, I agree with what Kevan just said, so you're good to go now.
...ant
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Nicholas L Gallardo nlgal...@us.ibm.comwrote:
Thanks Ant. Do you have any input on the question below?
Is that vote [mentor/IPMC member] transportable here?
Nicholas Gallardo
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com
wrote:
To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.
Nope... The
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is
done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence
to our policies which you and others have crafted. *All* podlings have
to ensure they have the correct licensing headers, notices
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole. The IPMC as a
whole has only two roles: approving a proposal and recommending
graduation
Also,
Hi Greg,
I am not on either side of the debate here, but Martijn is correct in
pointing that the formal standard was applied to *all* podlings to
date. There's more than a few projects in the ASF that were originally
developed in the open, with strong communities. And in those cases
that
The vote for releasing Wink 1.0 passes with 3 binding +1s and 0 +0/-1
votes. Binding votes were cast by:
Kevan Miller
Leo Simmons
Ant Elder
Thanks for the input and help in getting us to 1.0!
-Nick
Nicholas Gallardo
WebSphere - REST WebServices Development
nlgal...@us.ibm.com
Phone:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:11, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
Hi Greg,
I am not on either side of the debate here, but Martijn is correct in
pointing that the formal standard was applied to *all* podlings to date.
I understand, and will simply ask was that the right thing to do?
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
Also, to be clear, as an IPMC member I spend quite a bit of time with
projects where I am not a mentor, casting (binding) votes on things
like their releases. I will continue to do that, inline with procedure
and policy and
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
This is where I think the Incubator has gone awry: the claim that you
are an IPMC member implies that you have merit on a project (in the
form of a binding vote) is false.
Not sure if I am looking at the same
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
...I'm mildly uncomfortable with mentors who aren't actually involved in
the project telling a community what to do - but I accept that as a
necessity of the Incubation process. However, I'm much more
uncomfortable
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
I mean, really... how many other projects that are 9.5 years old(*) do
we expect to see arriving here? And of those, how many *started* with
the ideas and precepts of the Apache Software Foundation? I suspect it
will be zero, so wasting a lot of
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
OTOH, podlings that don't have 3 active mentors can't get 3 binding
votes internally, so IPMC members have to jump in sometimes. Thanks to
those of us who do!
I view the proposal accepting the projects with the
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:53, Andrus Adamchik and...@objectstyle.org wrote:
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
I mean, really... how many other projects that are 9.5 years old(*) do
we expect to see arriving here? And of those, how many *started* with
the ideas and precepts of the
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
Also, to be clear, as an IPMC member I spend quite a bit of time with
projects where I am not a mentor, casting (binding) votes on things
like
- Original Message
From: Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 7:56:53 AM
Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
[PROPOSAL][VOTE] Subversion)
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bertrand
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:16, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
...
Not merit, just binding vote. I agree that it sucks, but it is not
something where the incubator has gone awry, it has _always_ been
messed up like this.
Here's what I understand:
1) Apache rule: all apache releases must
We have a number of *user-configurable* dependencies which are not
compatible with the AL:
- Neon, a HTTP client library, used by libsvn_ra_neon, is LGPL.
(An alternative HTTP client library, libsvn_ra_serf uses the Serf
library under ALv2.)
Neon is currently Subversion's default RA DAV
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 09:27, Martijn Dashorst
martijn.dasho...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, *AND* ensuring legal dots are put on the i's and j's. This is
done through checking the release and ensuring that it is in adherence
to our
Igor Burilo wrote:
We have a number of *user-configurable* dependencies which are not
compatible with the AL:
- Neon, a HTTP client library, used by libsvn_ra_neon, is LGPL.
(An alternative HTTP client library, libsvn_ra_serf uses the Serf
library under ALv2.)
Neon is currently
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:16, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
...
Not merit, just binding vote. I agree that it sucks, but it is not
something where the incubator has gone awry, it has _always_ been
messed up like this.
On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 11:37 -0600, Eric Evans wrote:
The Cassandra community voted on and approved the release of Apache
Cassandra 0.4.2. We would now like to request the approval of the
Incubator PMC for this release.
Cassandra is a massively scalable, eventually consistent, distributed,
Hi Greg,
I'm afraid that you have totally mistranslated my message and I have
no idea why.
I'm not trying to pick a fight.
I'm trying to be reasonable.
I don't perceive your reaction as positive.
I'm not going to continue this discussion until you have something
concrete to discuss. I
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote:
I have no idea what might be going on in your head, but from where I
sit, it seems like you might be overreacting just a _bit_ to a
tongue-in-cheek e-mail post script. Have some green tea.
What is/was going on in my head is
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