Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-06 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/6/2012 12:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: My biggest problem is that the proposal moves undefined responsibilities to ComDev while none of the candidates have actually spoken to ComDev about this As

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-05 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/5/2012 12:37 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: One thing that is not clear on the proposal is that it says that releases will be responsibility of the TLPs, but it doest not suggest or require that the actual existing ASF members that are part of the TLP have to vote on the release. This might

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: My biggest problem is that the proposal moves undefined responsibilities to ComDev while none of the candidates have actually spoken to ComDev about this As a comdev PMC member, I am opposed to making that PMC

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-05 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:06 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: My biggest problem is that the proposal moves undefined responsibilities to ComDev while none of the candidates have actually

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-05 Thread Ross Gardler
Thanks Bertrand. I hope that ComDev can help with the future incubation. However, it is a small PMC and thus any transition of responsibilities must be done in a controlled and managed way. Ross Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 6, 2012 6:30 AM, Bertrand

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 4, 2012 3:41 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Ross, On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 4 February 2012 02:01, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Ross, On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 4, 2012 3:41 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: [...snip...] Who fixes it? The project's PMC. And if not, the project's VP. And

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler
Chris, seriously, take a break. You are not hearing what I'm trying to say and therefore not answering my concerns, directly at least. For an example see where you use the word failure in this reply - that word has no bearing on anything I have said, yet you directly attribute it to me. I've

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Ross, On Feb 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Chris, seriously, take a break. You are not hearing what I'm trying to say and therefore not answering my concerns, directly at least. I could say the same thing to you. :) We both care about this stuff, which is why we keep

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-04 Thread Luciano Resende
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi Ross, On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Feb 4, 2012 3:41 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)

Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-03 Thread Ross Gardler
My biggest problem is that the proposal moves undefined responsibilities to ComDev while none of the candidates have actually spoken to ComDev about this. Doesn't that strike the candidates as a little odd? l want to know what ComDev is being asked to do. The proposal in the wiki is not clear in

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-03 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/3/2012 7:06 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: Do any of the candidates want to take a little time to define the role they see for ComDev? Sounds like additional documentation for the proposal Committee: Previous responsibility --- Revised responsibility _ ___

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-03 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hey Bill, On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:18 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 2/3/2012 7:06 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: Do any of the candidates want to take a little time to define the role they see for ComDev? Sounds like additional documentation for the proposal Committee: Previous

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-03 Thread Ross Gardler
On 4 February 2012 02:01, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: ... Sounds like additional documentation for the proposal Committee:  Previous responsibility   ---   Revised responsibility _   ___           __

Re: Anyone care to talk to ComDev? (was Re: Time to vote the chair?)

2012-02-03 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Ross, On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:27 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 4 February 2012 02:01, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote: ... Sounds like additional documentation for the proposal Committee: Previous responsibility --- Revised responsibility _