Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: | One more thing, come up with a more creative name. :-) | | The whole FooBar4J thing is tired IMHO. May I say that the whole Jakarta naming scheme is really tired, imho. What does Velocity do? What does Tomcat do? What does any of these stupid

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Leo Simons
We had a nice discussion 'bout this on avalon-dev a while back. You can read the thread at http://www.mail-archive.com/avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg07495.html http://www.mail-archive.com/avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg07589.html This was about nondescriptive naming of packages inside a

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/29/02 1:11 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creative names.. Well.. This isn't a fashion school or something. It's hardcore coding. I disagree. Coding is an art form and the creators should be given the freedom and encouragement to title their pieces of art how they please.

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/29/02 1:11 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creative names.. Well.. This isn't a fashion school or something. It's hardcore coding. I disagree. Coding is an art form and the creators should be given the freedom and

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | BTW, I've found that hardcore coding is absolutely _the_ place for | what you call stupid names: | | linux It's a _unix_ operation system, made by Linus. There is some convention of the use of a X for a Unix OS, or something like that. Whatever. | GNU

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 4/29/02 10:33 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | Apache The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, annoying. Was for A Patchy server, right? Not annoying. | Jakarta Annoying.. We can rename it EDAJAON Endre

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: | On 4/29/02 10:33 AM, Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | On 29 Apr 2002, Leo Simons wrote: | | | Apache | The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, | annoying. | | Was for A Patchy server, right? | | Not

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Michael A. Smith
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Endre Stølsvik wrote: | | Jakarta | Annoying.. | | We can rename it EDAJAON | | Endre Doesn't Appreciate Jakarta As Our Name | | Which should make you happy? No, not really. But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? JApache, Apache4J, JSF

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Gunnar Rønning
* Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | Jakarta | Annoying.. Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta is a community developing software based on Java. -- Gunnar Rønning - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Consultant, Polygnosis AS, http://www.polygnosis.com/

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Joe Germuska
At 4:53 PM +0200 4/29/02, Endre Stølsvik wrote: But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Jakarta is an island in Indonesia, as is Java. I like the name myself. But then, I don't really agree with your initial concern. Joe -- -- * Joe Germuska{ [EMAIL PROTECTED] } It's

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Annoying.. We can rename it EDAJAON Endre Doesn't Appreciate Jakarta As Our Name Which should make you happy? No, not really. But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Because the very first meeting between

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Gunnar Rønning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Annoying.. Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta is a community developing software based on Java. It makes me laugh that so many people involved with this

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On 29 Apr 2002, Gunnar Rønning wrote: | * Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | | | Jakarta | | Annoying.. | | Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | is a community developing software based on Java. Argh! Of course.. It should be obligatory to

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
]] Enviado el: lunes 29 de abril de 2002 17:00 Para: Jakarta General List Asunto: Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J * Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | | Jakarta | Annoying.. Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta is a community developing

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: | Gunnar Rønning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | * Endre Stølsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | |Jakarta | Annoying.. | | Jakarta is a city on Java. The name makes perfect sense to me as Jakarta | is a community developing software based on Java.

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not any more. As of today, Google returns http://jakarta.apache.org/ as the first hit for Jakarta... WHOHA! :) That's cool! :) Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Danny Angus
- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 29 April 2002 16:50 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not any more. As of today, Google returns http://jakarta.apache.org/ as the first

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Endre Stølsvik
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Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did anyone else get this sponsored link on the google jakarta results page? Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? www.oracle.com FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide! Looks like someone is

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/29/02 8:18 AM, Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Endre Stølsvik wrote: But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Jakarta is the capital of Indonesia located on the island of Java. One nonsense name deserves another :-) Conor It was because Sun names

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Bob Jamison
Endre Stølsvik wrote: | Apache The original Apache is called Apache HTTPD now, isn't it? But yes, annoying. Actually, I think Apache is a wonderful name, because it is just a name, and doesn't mean anything (in this context) except the Apache project. Although the name does not derive

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/29/02 8:18 AM, Conor MacNeill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Endre Stølsvik wrote: But why did Jakarta end up with that rather nonsense name? Jakarta is the capital of Indonesia located on the island of Java. One nonsense name deserves

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread dion
PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Danny Angus wrote: | did anyone else get this sponsored link on the google jakarta results | page? | |Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-25 Thread Daniel Rall
Michael A. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Sam wrote: Where is this jakarta-commons-sandbox/configuration that you mentioned below. Its not listed anywhere on http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/components.html The component doesn't have a website yet. You can get

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-25 Thread Sam
I looked at the CVS repository for this component. This seems to be in a very early statge. Eg theres nothing in the XML config part. There are just 2 basic classes Eg BaseConfiguration.java that really doesnt do much. I dont mean to sound like I m undermining your effort, but I would expect a

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-25 Thread Daniel Rall
Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:50, Sam wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. Theres a few of these around all solving similar things. Is there anything that distinguishes it from the Preferences API in JDK1.4? (Except that it

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-25 Thread Daniel Rall
Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I looked at the CVS repository for this component. This seems to be in a very early statge. Eg theres nothing in the XML config part. There are just 2 basic classes Eg BaseConfiguration.java that really doesnt do much. I dont mean to sound like I m

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-25 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 15:46, Sam wrote: I looked at the CVS repository for this component. This seems to be in a very early statge. Eg theres nothing in the XML config part. There are just 2 basic classes Eg BaseConfiguration.java that really doesnt do much. You are right, it doesn't do

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that. Cheers /sam Daniel Rall wrote: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/24/02 5:04 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that. Cheers /sam You may also want to pass this on: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html One more thing, come up with a more

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Rall
Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. The aim of this project is to provide developers with a generic framework to help with setting up application level configuration

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
Dumb question. Where is this jakarta-commons-sandbox/configuration that you mentioned below. Its not listed anywhere on http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/components.html Thanks ./s Daniel Rall wrote: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
The creativity went out the window, right after the dot Coms with their -creative- work enviornments :) ./s Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 4/24/02 5:04 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that.

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:50, Sam wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. Theres a few of these around all solving similar things. Is there anything that distinguishes it from the Preferences API in JDK1.4? (Except that it would run on pre-jdk1.4 JVMs). The

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Michael A. Smith
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Sam wrote: Where is this jakarta-commons-sandbox/configuration that you mentioned below. Its not listed anywhere on http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/components.html The component doesn't have a website yet. You can get to the files via viewcvs: