Thanks I've found the earlier reports. I've been trying to debug but
haven't solved it yet.
In addition to the existing information I can report that using the
shortcut key seems to be implicated. If I use Ctrl+j to advance from
section to section then the undesirable behaviour exhibits itself.
There appears to be an subtle issue with all Labs (that I've tested)
when run from the Gtk IDE.
If you just advance through the labs everything is fine. However if
you experiment in the IDE by entering and executing one or more lines
of J and then advance the lab, the first executed line of the
The answers so far will help you access the help independently of your
J interface. However depending which J version (6 or 7) and Front End
(interface) are you using you should still be able to access help
using the menus.
If you are using J6 or the J7 Gtk IDE then you can access the Help via
Hi Brian,
This works fine for me in JHS on 64bit Windows 7.
load 'plot'
plot i.5
Perhaps you could try reinstalling the graphics/plot and ide/jhs addons?
load 'pacman'
'search' jpkgv 'graphics/plot ide/jhs'
┌─┬───┬───┬───┐
│graphics/plot│1.0.99 │1.0.99 │Plot
I agree Lucida Console is a good choice and it is installed on my
machine. Not sure why it doesn't come up. I think it was the other
error that was causing the major problems - I haven't tested the
changes yet though.
I get the impression that the gtk_main_iteration and acceptJ verbs are
looping
Thanks Bill,
The summary tables display fine in the grid from within the Gtk IDE now.
The key problem seems to me though, how to focus the results on the
functions being explicitly tested rather than the time spent in the
gtk_main_iteration (ide/gkt) or acceptJ (ide/jhs) verbs. Chris, Eric
any
Thanks for report Bill
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, William Szuch bsz...@wsa-fincon.com.au wrote:
Windows 32 bit installer worked OK also uninstalled.
Bill Szuch
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On Behalf Of
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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I've finally got around to playing with InnoSetup to create a Windows
Installer for J.
The installer includes the Gtk binaries as well
in the same way.
My previous message should also said
2. there is no entry in launchpad for the demos/plot even that package
is bundled.
innosetup has an option to choose and delete folders created by
install if I remember correctly.
2012/3/21 Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com:
Thanks Bill,
1
I tested the J Performance Monitor on J7.
http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/jforc/performance_measurement__tip.htm#_Toc191734580
While jconsole sessions seem OK, both ide/jhs and ide/gtk look like
they might need some work to provide useful results because the
interface functions contaminate
[mailto:general-boun...@jsoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ric Sherlock
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:18 AM
To: General forum
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Windows Installer for J64 including Gtk
Did anybody have a chance to test this Windows installer for 64-bit J?
The installer (j64-701_setup.exe) is ~9 MB
-701_setup.exe) is ~9 MB. Downloadable here:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=7568d8831e595c6dresid=7568D8831E595C6D!205parid=7568D8831E595C6D!146authkey=!ACMm5-AdLG6h5L8
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I've finally got around to playing with InnoSetup
called by makezip which is in turn
called by buildplatform in web/trunk/pacman/addons/build.ijs
Perhaps there is something wrong with the command line being built for
the zip command? It could be one of the addons has a strange file name
that is causing problems?
2012/3/19 Ric Sherlock tikk
PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I've finally got around to playing with InnoSetup to create a Windows
Installer for J.
The installer includes the Gtk binaries as well as the latest version
of the base library and a selection of addons that I thought were
likely to be useful to new
There seems to be a problem with the automatic JAL build system that
is preventing updates to addons being built and released.
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JAL/Build%20Log
2012 3 18 23 11 46 addons
built: gui/gtkwd/1.0 j701
Invalid manifest for: graphics/grid6
Invalid manifest for:
I just touched the general/dirutils addon to test whether removing
those empty directories had fixed the problem - unfortunately not!
2012 3 19 0 56 45 addons
built: general/dirutils/1.0 j602, general/dirutils/1.0 j701
unhandled error:
|interface error: hostcmd
| hostcmd dblquote f
This
wrong with the command line being built for
the zip command? It could be one of the addons has a strange file name
that is causing problems?
2012/3/19 Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com:
I just touched the general/dirutils addon to test whether removing
those empty directories had fixed the problem
I've finally got around to playing with InnoSetup to create a Windows
Installer for J.
The installer includes the Gtk binaries as well as the latest version
of the base library and a selection of addons that I thought were
likely to be useful to new users. So the J Gtk IDE should be
ready-to-use
representing dates (
2012/01/12 )
into numbers representing dates ( 20120112 ),
where tblcsv becomes dyadic with a control vector like 'SDSSNDNSNS'
as
the
left argument
indicating which columns are strings, dates numbers.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk
Out of interest does the following give you the same result?
load 'tables/csv'
makenumcol fixcsv csvdata -.'/'
Where csvdata is the string you are feeding to tblcsv.
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Tom Szczesny tav...@gmail.com wrote:
wow
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Ric Sherlock
converted properly in the table/csv case.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
Out of interest does the following give you the same result?
load 'tables/csv'
makenumcol fixcsv csvdata -.'/'
Where csvdata is the string you are feeding to tblcsv
, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect the reason that the minus sign didn't convert is that the
column wasn't converted to numeric because the column header is part
of the file. If the header doesn't convert to numeric successfully the
column will fail the condition that the whole
Note that you don't need to define tblcsv explicitly:
tblcsv=: ([: ;._1 ',',);._2
or
tblcsv=: ([: ;._1 ',' , ]);._2
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Tom Szczesny tav...@gmail.com wrote:
tested .. works . . thanks!
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:23 PM, R.E. Boss r.e.b...@planet.nl
are strings, dates numbers.
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that you don't need to define tblcsv explicitly:
tblcsv=: ([: ;._1 ',',);._2
or
tblcsv=: ([: ;._1 ',' , ]);._2
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Tom Szczesny tav...@gmail.com wrote
To be precise cutl is being fed csvfile one record at a time by the
conjunction cut ( ;. ). ( cutl;._2 ) will chop its right argument into
bits using the last item of the right argument (probably a line-feed)
as the record delimiter (fret) and apply the verb u (in your case (
','cutl ) to each of
\packages\files\csv.ijs
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting. You get different results to me. Are you using the
tables/csv addon and if so which version?
load 'pacman'
'search' jpkgv 'csv
:
What surprised me was that the code in cutl was being reinterpreted by the
J-interpreter for each element.
I guess that's because the the conjuction is applied to a defined function,
and not a primitive.
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
To be precise
Note that the tables/csv addon is just a special case of the
tables/dsv addon that sets the delimiters. From memory the tables/csv
addon will quote literal data but not numeric data. Of course that
means that numbers in literal form will end up being quoted.
When you refer to spurious
If I want to print a plot I generally output them to a PDF or save as
png then print those. e.g.
'output pdf' plot 10?10 NB. creates plot in ~temp/plot.pdf
See http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Plot/Commands
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:12 PM, eaclough...@tiscali.co.uk
eaclough...@tiscali.co.uk
print from there.
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
From memory in J6 there is a GUI interface (exportsomething) or
similar that optionally uses pp.ijs to generate syntax highlighted
html page
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Brian Schott schott.br
From memory in J6 there is a GUI interface (exportsomething) or
similar that optionally uses pp.ijs to generate syntax highlighted
html page
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Brian Schott schott.br...@gmail.com wrote:
By looking at the code for pp.ijs, I think I see why the 1 changed to
0: the
So perhaps under some conditions that we've yet to determine jpkg
decides that the ide/gtk and/or gui/gtk addons don't need to be
installed (i.e. thinks they are already up-to-date) when they in
reality do.
Raul's suggested change to the install verb should at least make the
user experience more
Did the download work? Did you get a new set of files in the gtk directory?
What happens when you do:
load 'pacman'
'update' jpkg ''
Could it be a wget proxy configuration issue?
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Raul Miller rauldmil...@gmail.com wrote:
Sample gtk session, below. Note
I'm interested on whether there are reasons for using the batch files
in ~system/bin to run the various interfaces in the J7 Windows
install?
Why not just have the shortcut run jconsole.exe with the appropriate
options directly?
One downside for using the batch files is the side effect it has on
in the command windows for gtk
respective jhs.
It is possible to hide those windows.
2011/11/5 Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com
I'm interested on whether there are reasons for using the batch files
in ~system/bin to run the various interfaces in the J7 Windows
install?
Why not just have
I agree that the contents of the bat file are location independent,
but the shortcut to the bat file isn't. So if you move the J folder
you won't need to update the contents of the bat file, but you will
need to update the Start menu shortcut that points to the bat file.
Alternatively you could
Easier just to put a copy of the shortcut in the Startup folder?
2011/11/6 Björn Helgason gos...@gmail.com:
automatic start when windows starts
2011/11/5 Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com
What's the point of doing that when you can just put the right target
in the shortcut?
2011/11/6 Björn
The following will read all the sheets in a workbook:
readxlsheets 'myfile.xls' NB. reads first sheet in workbook
0 readxlsheets 'myfile.xls' NB. reads first sheet in workbook
'' readxlsheets 'myfile.xls' NB. read all sheets in workbook
check out the lab for Tara.
On Wed, Oct 26,
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Alexander Mikhailov avm...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'd like to be able to modify that and then save in another file.
My understanding is that it is not possible to edit existing xls
files, but Bill will be able to confirm.
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Raul Miller rauldmil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:35 PM, The Geeko thegeek...@gmail.com wrote:
And, I realized that changes were introduced that caused old scripts to
break.
So, relying on the z-locale appears to me to be risky.
Changes have
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 5:19 PM, The Geeko thegeek...@gmail.com wrote:
Ric Sherlock tikkanz@... writes:
Note however that the z-locale is writeable by user scripts and other.
addons so although it is bad form to overwrite or change existing.
definitions in the z-locale, it is possible.
So, I
The following will install all addon packages:
Start jconsole
require 'pacman'
'update' jpkg ''
'install' jpkg 'all'
Note that a couple of the addons are quite large - particularly
'docs/gtk' so you may want to be a bit more picky.
See the following wiki page for more options:
Thanks Bill,
I have added a timeout to the wget and curl calls that should allow
the function to complete even with errors in the user's proxy
configuration. Committed to SVN.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:16 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
Ric,
Eric also pointed out this to me and a patch
Recently I've had problems starting JHS. Essentially when starting
init_jhs_ the system would appear to hang.
When starting from a Linux terminal,( start jconsole, load
'ide/jhs/core' and then init_jhs_ '' ) the J console session appeared
to hang. If I used Ctrl+C things would then start as
I see now that the more important issue for me was that I need to make
sure that my wget settings are appropriate for whether I'm behind my
work proxy-server or not, otherwise wget sits there trying to find the
proxy server.
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote
If you add the _z_ on the end of nl, then it will execute nl in the z
locale (i.e. show you the list of names in the z locale), not your
current locale. Try it out!
testnl=: nl_z_
testnl''
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Christopher McIntosh
thegeek...@gmail.com wrote:
Don Guinn donguinn@...
In J7.01 'stats' and 'stats/base' refer to the same thing (the
packages in J6.02 have been to a large extent moved to addons)
AFAIK the various functionality available in the J602 'stats' package
has been redistributed among the scripts that make up 'stats/base'
Is there anything missing?
On
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Raul Miller rauldmil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
In J7.01 'stats' and 'stats/base' refer to the same thing (the
packages in J6.02 have been to a large extent moved to addons)
AFAIK the various
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Chris's ThinkBook
hugin.thrudvang@gmail.com wrote:
What is the difference (aside from directories) between a single user
and multiple user install of 704?
See http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J602/Overview
for a brief description of the
From the GTKIde Term window: Edit|Configure|Base
Find the definition for DisplayForm and set it to 2 for boxed display.
I prefer boxed display, followed by linear display so I set it to:
DisplayForm=: 2 5
Save and restart J GtkIDE.
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Tom Allen
AFAIK all the other keys seem to work OK.
I've committed a fix to the Public repository that seems to fix the
behaviour of KP_Enter in the Gtk Term window.
There are a bunch of other references to GDK_Return throughout ide/gtk
(along the lines of ( if. key ~: GDK_Return do. 0 return. end. ) )
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:03 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
Is that ( if. key ~: GDK_Return do. 0 return. end. ) redundant?
No they are not redundant. Commenting them out results in undesirable behaviour.
I can see Edit (not Term) trap home and arrow keys to implement movement by
J
Saul,
Just in terms of getting familiar with other things that have been
done (apart from J7 JHS), you might also want to take a look at:
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/JHP
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/CGI
http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Web
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:16 PM, saul berg
There is a description of PUBLIC_j_ and how to add to it in J for C Programmers.
http://www.jsoftware.com/help/jforc/odds_and_ends.htm#_Toc191734549
The spelling (case) does need updating for J7 though. I found this by
using Find in Files to search ~addons/docs/help for PUBLIC_j_
As for where
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Devon McCormick devon...@gmail.com wrote:
and its package installation facilities (though
re-instating the J6 GUI for this would be very helpful).
There are GUI versions of the package installation facilities in both
JHS IDE and Gtk IDE. The Gtk IDE version is
I tried searching ~addons/docs/help for PUBLIC first but matched a
whole lot of HTML files with:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 ...
... so I narrowed my search to PUBLIC_j_ :-)
I'm not sure what the issue you refer to is?
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Devon McCormick devon...@gmail.com wrote:
However, I was dismayed to find
that the supplied dir verb returns information in a much less useful
format than my own simple definition dir=: 1!:0@.
Not sure if you're aware that dir takes a left argument that gives
These one word aliases for scripts were defined in the PUBLIC_j_ noun
in J602 and are now defined in Public_j_.
AFAIU they were basically given to scripts that were designated
important enough to provide users with a simpler way of loading them
than using their full path.
Many of the
Another way, if you know the filename of the file you want to open, is
to execute:
open 'path/to/script.ijs'
This will provide a link in the jijx window that you can right-click
on and choose Open Link in New Tab (or similar) from the context
menu.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, bob
Notwithstanding these issues, the script is very useful as is. It
might be worth while noting these points within the script eg:
NB.! TODO ...
I see these functions as being fairly low level, and pretty much like
the strings script, hence my vote for them to be in the base library.
If there's no
For a while I've noticed that sometimes pressing Enter in the Term
window just inserts a new line rather than executing the current line
or copying the current line to the bottom of the log. It's been
infrequent though and I never understood why. I've now worked out that
the issue (on this system
If it's going to be a menu item in Mac but not in Windows or Linux
versions then that creates even more user interface diversity,
fragmenting our small community even more.
My preference would be for a menu item in all Gtk versions, failing
that in none.
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:08 PM, bill
Yes I agree with Bill that the problem is likely that the font you are
using in Term doesn't have glyphs for those unicode chars. Using
Edit|Session Font to try some others.
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:53 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
It worked for me under linux. Perhaps you need to
I was wanting to use it in pacman/jpkg. If it isn't in the base
library then that won't be sensible. Let's wait to see what other
perspectives there are.
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:24 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
Oh sorry typo again. It is not directly used in j locale.
Вск, 20 Фев
The proposed use in pacman is probably not a compelling reason by
itself - see Raul's suggestion in current thread Critique please!
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:02 PM, chris burke cbu...@jsoftware.com wrote:
What is the use case in pacman/jpkg?
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk
This should now read:
To advance the lab, if you are using the JHS front end, select menu
Studio|Advance Lab or the corresponding shortcut (Esc,a), otherwise if you are
using the Gtk front end then select the menu Help|Studio|Advance Lab or the
corresponding shortcut (Ctrl+j).
(Note the Gtk
In J602 (and before) the printf.ijs script was available as part of
the system library
fexist jpath '~system/main/printf.ijs'
1
So far it is not available in J701 (as part of the base system library
or as an addon).
My preference would for it to be included as part of the base system
library
I can reproduce this error as follows:
(unknown:2659): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_is_ancestor: assertion
`ancestor != NULL' failed
* Start J Gtk IDE from a terminal session ($ jconsole gtkide)
* Open Edit window.
* Open multiple tabs in the Edit window
* Position the mouse pointer on a tab and
Thanks. I've checked and see that it has already been reported (and
hopefully fixed in future versions).
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604391
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:05 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
The same error message is also shown in gedit.
Птн, 18 Фев 2011, Ric
I'm really saddened to hear this. Alex truly was a breath of fresh air
in the forums, his posts helped give them a more personal and
community feel that will be missed.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM, chris burke cbu...@jsoftware.com wrote:
Alex (bathala) Rufon (1973-2011) has passed away after
.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I was thinking along similar lines.
Each of the JFEs could set an appropriate message in Welcome_j_.
The Welcome_j_ non could be overwritten by the user's various
startup.ijs scripts (unless this gets run before
.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I think startup.ijs could still do the job. How does this sound?
* User creates custom Welcome_j_ in their startup.ijs.
* JFE creates Welcome_j_ (if it doesn't already exist) with its
default message)
* Welcome_j_
too early in j701 and the
architecture won't allow it to be executed any later.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I think startup.ijs could still do the job. How does this sound?
* User creates custom Welcome_j_ in their startup.ijs.
* JFE creates
I think it would be good to have a default Welcome message
(especially for jconsole).
It just needs to be something simple to let the user know they are in
a Jconsole session and how to exit. IME there is nothing worse than
knowing you are in some application, but not knowing what it is or how
to
I've done some work on this (and dyadic Note) which I'll commit to SVN
repository tonight.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:50 PM, bill lam bbill@gmail.com wrote:
Syntax coloring of Term is controlled by TermScheme is config|gtkide. You
can change it to Edit to have the syntax coloring as Edit.
define or override either of these words in startup.ijs
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would be good to have a default Welcome message
(especially for jconsole).
It just needs to be something simple to let the user know they are in
a Jconsole
Sorry that should be ( 45 { a. ) not 46.
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Ric Sherlock tikk...@gmail.com wrote:
What concerns me about all this is that different rules apply for the text
portion from the rest. How can you tell that it is from the text portion of
the tutorial and not from other
Why do you think it is a name in JHS and not just an acronymn?
-Original Message-
From: Don Guinn dongu...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2011 16:41
To: General forum general@jsoftware.com
Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Keyboard shortcuts
I gather that IIUC is a name somewhere in JHS. I
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