Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-11-26 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi Olivier, On 2014-11-26 09:11, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but Common is not compatible with the current SDK, which would be a huge problem imo. At the moment Tizen has multiple different SDKs: Tizen 2.3 SDK, Tizen SDK for Wearable 1.0.0, Tizen-based Samsung TV SDK 1.0

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-11-25 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi All, Last week at Slush 2014 both Nokia and Jolla revealed tablets with Intel Atom 64-bit CPUs powered respectively by Android and SailfishOS. Later it was announced that Nokia N1 will be manufactured by Foxconn. Similar devices seem as a good choice for potential development of a Tizen

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-11-25 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Leon Anavi l...@anavi.org wrote: Hi All, Last week at Slush 2014 both Nokia and Jolla revealed tablets with Intel Atom 64-bit CPUs powered respectively by Android and SailfishOS. Later it was announced that Nokia N1 will be manufactured by Foxconn. Similar

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-11-25 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Leon Anavi l...@anavi.org wrote: Hi All, Last week at Slush 2014 both Nokia and Jolla revealed tablets with Intel Atom 64-bit CPUs powered respectively by Android and SailfishOS. Later it was announced that Nokia N1 will be manufactured by Foxconn. Similar

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-27 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 27/10/2014 00:18, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 18:13:14 + Saxena, Sunil sunil.sax...@intel.com said: Agreed that IoT will require us to add to existing Tizen Common for discovering, communicating, security, services of these devices. I wanted to

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Sunday 26 October 2014 04:21:00 Olivier Nyssen wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 10:21:25 Olivier Nyssen wrote: Like I said: why would we need a separate profile for IoT, which will be -by definition-

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Sunday 26 October 2014 04:21:00 Olivier Nyssen wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 10:21:25 Olivier Nyssen wrote:

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi Olivier, On 2014-10-26 16:35, Olivier Nyssen wrote: IoT = an upcoming feature that may be needed by mobile, IVI, wearables and other profiles With all due respect, I don't think I agree with you. The specifications of Tizen profiles related to IoT should depend on the different use

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Ashiq Nazir
I think one of the problems that we will run into pretty fast is that one of the definitions of Tizen Common is that it will contain features that are Common between two or more profiles. Now if we look at the Smartphone profile and the wearable profile that might be used by something like the

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Olivier Nyssen
Before we go any further, I would like to know if you guys agree with this basic logic: 1) Tizen Common is a common development / build / test platform for any upcoming features that may be needed by mobile, IVI, wearables, and other profiles. 2) IoT is an upcoming feature that may be needed by

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Schaufler, Casey
:37 AM To: general@lists.tizen.org Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet Before we go any further, I would like to know if you guys agree with this basic logic: 1) Tizen Common is a common development / build / test platform for any upcoming features that may be needed by mobile, IVI

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Saxena, Sunil
and possibly create Tizen Common Nano – terms for discussion sake. Thanks Sunil From: General [mailto:general-boun...@lists.tizen.org] On Behalf Of Schaufler, Casey Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:42 AM To: Olivier Nyssen; general@lists.tizen.org Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet Tizen Common

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Sunday 26 October 2014 17:36:31 Olivier Nyssen wrote: Before we go any further, I would like to know if you guys agree with this basic logic: 1) Tizen Common is a common development / build / test platform for any upcoming features that may be needed by mobile, IVI, wearables, and other

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Patrick Ohly
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 17:36 +0100, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Before we go any further, I would like to know if you guys agree with this basic logic: 1) Tizen Common is a common development / build / test platform for any upcoming features that may be needed by mobile, IVI, wearables, and other

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread The Rasterman
] On Behalf Of Schaufler, Casey Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:42 AM To: Olivier Nyssen; general@lists.tizen.org Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet Tizen Common is useful for many things. One of the reasons it is valuable is that it is not excessively constrained to a particular

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Monday 27 October 2014 08:18:26 Carsten Haitzler wrote: at this point it's basically not tizen anymore. to run in 4m of ram we're looking at mcu's and these have (except for the higher end a5 ones in the arm world) no mmu at all. a linux kernel alone is going to eat up all if not most of

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-26 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Patrick Ohly patrick.o...@intel.com wrote: On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 17:36 +0100, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Before we go any further, I would like to know if you guys agree with this basic logic: 1) Tizen Common is a common development / build / test platform for

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-25 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 05:41:20 Olivier Nyssen wrote: A new profile is required for specific hardware like a fridge for instance. Most Tizen devices must be IoT compatible so we're in Tizen Common

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Saturday 25 October 2014 08:00:40 Olivier Nyssen wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 05:41:20 Olivier Nyssen wrote: A new profile is required for specific hardware like a fridge for instance. Most

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-25 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 08:00:40 Olivier Nyssen wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Thiago Macieira thiago.macie...@intel.com wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2014 05:41:20 Olivier Nyssen wrote: A

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-25 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Saturday 25 October 2014 10:21:25 Olivier Nyssen wrote: Like I said: why would we need a separate profile for IoT, which will be -by definition- common to all profiles ? Because your assumption is not valid. Why do you think IoT will be common to all profiles? Why do you assume that IoT

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi Olivier, All, In my opinion having a separate profile for a Tizen 3 Tablet which is optimized as a touchscreen control center for IoT makes sense, even as the next Tizen developer device. The presentation of Stéphane Desneux during LinuxCon Europe and the one of Dominig ar Foll during

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Olivier Nyssen
Hi Leon, Before we move to the technical details: I'm not sure we really need a Tablet Profile at this stage. Maybe I'm wrong but Tizen Common would be perfect for this job imo: a generic profile for a generic device. We need a nice UI of course but the main question remains: who's going to make

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi Olivier, On 2014-10-24 14:07, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Hi Leon, Before we move to the technical details: I'm not sure we really need a Tablet Profile at this stage. Maybe I'm wrong but Tizen Common would be perfect for this job imo: a generic profile for a generic device. Tizen:Common is a

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Leon Anavi
Hi Olivier, On 2014-10-24 17:23, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Agreed but let's start from Tizen Common. If we add: Yes but if we modify and extend Tizen:Common then the result will be a new Tizen profile. Best regards, Leon Links: -- [1] http://openinterconnect.org/about/

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Philippe Coval
On 25/10/2014 00:24, Leon Anavi wrote: Hi Olivier, On 2014-10-24 17:23, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Agreed but let's start from Tizen Common. If we add: Yes but if we modify and extend Tizen:Common then the result will be a new Tizen profile. answering technically, well if there is no need to

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Olivier Nyssen
On 25/10/2014 00:24, Leon Anavi wrote: On 2014-10-24 17:23, Olivier Nyssen wrote: Agreed but let's start from Tizen Common. If we add: Yes but if we modify and extend Tizen:Common then the result will be a new Tizen profile. A new profile is required for specific hardware like a

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-24 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Saturday 25 October 2014 05:41:20 Olivier Nyssen wrote: A new profile is required for specific hardware like a fridge for instance. Most Tizen devices must be IoT compatible so we're in Tizen Common territory imo Even IoT will be a profile on top of Common or Common Micro. -- Thiago

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-09 Thread Olivier Nyssen
Yep, the screen is indeed smaller than a Gear 2 watch (which has a 320 x 320 resolution) but at least we have a participant in the tablet segment now, so maybe bigger form factors will be possible. A dev device with a Gear S display (360 x 480 resolution) would be much better of course.

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-09 Thread Olivier Nyssen
The Egg would be a great companion device for a Gear 2 watch btw. So ideally it would have the same 320 x 320 screen resolution and Samsung should allow these guys to use SAP (Samsung Accessory Protocol) http://developer.samsung.com/samsung-gear Regards, Olivier

[Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-08 Thread Olivier Nyssen
Hi everyone, This could be a great Tizen dev device imo: http://www.eggcyte.com/products/ But they need some financing: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2088279700/the-egg-if-you-care-about-it-then-egg-it A drop in the ocean for Intel imo ;) Regards, Olivier

Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Tablet

2014-10-08 Thread jezra
With a screen resolution of 240x320 and 262K colors, I fail to see what would make the device great as a tablet. Although the idea of a tamagochi running Linux does lift my spirits a bit. On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 04:51:30 +0200 Olivier Nyssen nysse...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, This could be a