Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Tóth Attila
2017.Április 30.(V) 16:34 időpontban Andrew Savchenko ezt írta: >> On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:00:39PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> > The only way to preserve this functionality in the long run is to >> > port it to the mainline kernel. This will not be easy, most likely >> > not everything

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:16:46 +0300 Alex Efros wrote: > Hi! > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:00:39PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > The only way to preserve this functionality in the long run is to > > port it to the mainline kernel. This will not be easy, most likely > > not everything will be

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:56:02 +0300 Alex Efros wrote: > Hi! > > On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:55:16PM +0200, SK wrote: > > And it's not about money from what I've read, should read this if you > > want some more information : > > If it's all just about credits, ego and personal conflict with LF

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 04:00:39PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > The only way to preserve this functionality in the long run is to > port it to the mainline kernel. This will not be easy, most likely > not everything will be accepted, some stuff will have to be > reimplemented using

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Daniel Cegiełka
2017-04-30 13:50 GMT+02:00 SK : > You can't really change license because it is a kernel patch so it has > to be GPLv2 from what i understand. Really? Can you remind me when Grsecurity or PaX Team distributed the Linux kernel? If they did, all code is under GPL-2. But that

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:47:44 +0300 Alex Efros wrote: > Hi! > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 01:49:20PM +0200, Luis Ressel wrote: > > I suppose we all just grudgingly switch over to gentoo-sources? > > I wonder for how long time current kernel with grsec will be more safe and > protected against

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:34:14 +0200 Tóth Attila wrote: > 2017.Április 29.(Szo) 20:43 időpontban Daniel Cegiełka ezt írta: > >> That's the part I don't get either. Since the only possible motivation > >> I can think of for this move is to generate more income, they could've > >> at least tried

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 01:55:16PM +0200, SK wrote: > And it's not about money from what I've read, should read this if you > want some more information : If it's all just about credits, ego and personal conflict with LF - when they the hell it affects everybody else? AFAIK Gentoo Hardened

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:55:16 +0200 SK wrote: > And it's not about money from what I've read, should read this if you > want some more information : > https://hardenedlinux.github.io/announcement/2017/04/29/hardenedlinux-statement2.html Sounds like a very lame excuse... > Closing the public

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread SK
And it's not about money from what I've read, should read this if you want some more information : https://hardenedlinux.github.io/announcement/2017/04/29/hardenedlinux-statement2.html On 04/30/2017 01:50 PM, SK wrote: > You can't really change license because it is a kernel patch so it has > to

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread SK
You can't really change license because it is a kernel patch so it has to be GPLv2 from what i understand. On 04/30/2017 01:08 PM, Alex Efros wrote: > Hi! > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 07:46:10PM +0300, Alex Efros wrote: >> Thanks! But isn't this mean you forbid all Linux distributions (including

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 07:46:10PM +0300, Alex Efros wrote: > Thanks! But isn't this mean you forbid all Linux distributions (including > commercial ones like RedHat) to be GrSec/PaX subscribers (in case they > like to spend some money for it)? I.e. this decision will ensure majority > of

Re: [gentoo-hardened] RIP hardened-sources

2017-04-30 Thread Javier Juan Martinez Cabezon
On 29/04/17 18:58, Luis Ressel wrote: > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:52:56 +0200 > Javier Juan Martinez Cabezon wrote: > >> It's not one PaX alternative as its only one of its features but rsbac >> recently implemented native W or X and seems to work fine > > If you're only