Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-03 Thread Redeeman
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 02:50, Collins Richey wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:33:16 +0100 Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Matthieu Amiguet
I would suggest QtParted (a gui for parted, http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/). I've never used it, but it looks like it should work with FAT32. As already mentioned, KNOPPIX would be helpful to get started since you can boot from it and will have a full set of gnu/linux tools available.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On 2003-12-01, Jonas Widarsson wrote: [...] Haha I kinda felt gentoo users are mostly the kind that doesn't use windows at all, and dual boot for the sake of windows is something rare among this freedom loving crowd. I must say that I have never seen as many Outlook/Outlook Express users

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:43:35 +0100 Matthieu Amiguet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would suggest QtParted (a gui for parted, http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/). I've never used it, but it looks like it should work with FAT32. As already mentioned, KNOPPIX would be helpful to get started

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Norberto Bensa
Mark Knecht wrote: but I got some really ugly messages in the xterm I started to run it, so I wasn't sure if I should go any further just yet. Yep. You can. I've resized many FAT{,32} partitions from my customers and friends. I can't remember for sure, but I think I did a NTFS resize too.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Jonas Widarsson
daniel wrote: i think what you're looking for is gnu parted # emerge --search parted should get you what you need Hmm. That's when the system runs .. How are things now again... *thinking* *trying to remember* Is there a ram disk I can install it to during gentoo install before fdisk and

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Redeeman
just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:28, Jonas Widarsson wrote: daniel wrote: i think what you're looking for is gnu

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Cal Evans
If partd is on the gentoo LiveCD (and I'm too lazy to check, but I think it is) then simply boot form the LiveCD and run it. I do believe that's how I made room to dual-boot my laptop. Let me know how I may be of service, =C= * Cal Evans * http://www.eicc.com * We take care of your IT, * So

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) QTparted and parted are not the same.. Parted does much more that qtparted does... You have to watch

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Redeeman
isnt qtparted just a frontend? On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) QTparted and

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
isnt qtparted just a frontend? On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions)

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Redeeman
then i guess qtparted and parted does the same On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:44, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: isnt qtparted just a frontend? On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 21:37, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed,

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
HMm, re-reading it doesn't really make sense.. I have used parted on fat32 just fine. I know it works.. If your not getting it to work, maybe it something local. Nope.. Q: What is QTParted ? A: QTParted is an attempt to create a linux-based clone of Partition Magic. Actually, a clone

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-02 Thread Collins Richey
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 21:33:16 +0100 Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just to warn you, i just emerged qt parted and made a test with resize of fat32, and it failed, but recover tools could fix it though, (i didnt loose my own data, i had test partitions) What were the error messages? --

[gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent experience in splitting the 80 GB primary fat23 partition (the only partition there is)

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent experience in splitting the 80 GB primary fat23 partition (the

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread daniel
On December 1, 2003 03:32 pm, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Redeeman
an application for windows called partition magic can do it, but it isnt free, i dont know if an evaluation version exists, else cd 1 of mandrake linux is REALLY good for partitioning On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 21:16, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent experience in splitting the 80 GB primary

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Redeeman wrote: an application for windows called partition magic can do it, but it isnt free, i dont know if an evaluation version exists, else cd 1 of mandrake linux is REALLY good for partitioning Ok, I'll investigate that, since I have some old mandrake CDs at hand. Or at work actually ;)

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Tom Wesley
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 20:16, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent experience in splitting the 80 GB

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
What does it matter? Fat16/32 is the same no matter how big it is.. Its all crap.. :) Should work just fine as long as the program doesn't limit itself. However, I wonder if that software is up to date. They are talking windows 95 and stuff on that homepage. Does it work even though my

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Redeeman
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 22:00, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: What does it matter? Fat16/32 is the same no matter how big it is.. Its all crap.. :) fat32 is not crap, i still use it for all my files, ext2/3 and reiserfs is so insecure if you experience power failures, fat32 you never loose your

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 20:16, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent experience in

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
Your using fat32 with linux?? I don't know what your doing over there, but your scaring me just listening to this.. If you think fat32 is better, so be it, but I have no idea how your getting by with fat32 on a linux system.. Never loose files?? hmm... On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 22:00, Jeffrey

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Jonas Widarsson wrote: Redeeman wrote: an application for windows called partition magic can do it, but it isnt free, i dont know if an evaluation version exists, else cd 1 of mandrake linux is REALLY good for partitioning Ok, I'll investigate that, since I have some old mandrake CDs at hand.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Tom Wesley
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 21:17, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 20:16, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave,

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Jonas Widarsson wrote: ... and I'll try fips from my mandrake CD tomorrow or later this week. ...or whatever suitable utility that is suggested by mandrake install... Jonas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Tom Wesley wrote: (Anyone jealous?) Haha I kinda felt gentoo users are mostly the kind that doesn't use windows at all, and dual boot for the sake of windows is something rare among this freedom loving crowd. I said before somewhere that I would toss windows out of the window if it wasn't for

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Redeeman
well my system is installed on ext3, but all my stuff is on fat32! On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 22:20, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Your using fat32 with linux?? I don't know what your doing over there, but your scaring me just listening to this.. If you think fat32 is better, so be it, but I have no

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Ric Messier
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Err, I'm surprised, but somehow I find it believable... Actually, I don't find it believable at all since I've installed XP Home a couple of times with NTFS.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread daniel
On December 1, 2003 04:37 pm, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I said before somewhere that I would toss windows out of the window if it wasn't for all the games for windows, everyone else using IE and my internet bank system doesn't support mozilla. you'd be surprised at what mozilla would support.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Tom Wesley
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 21:57, Ric Messier wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Err, I'm surprised, but somehow I find it believable... Actually, I don't find it believable at all

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
daniel wrote: On December 1, 2003 04:37 pm, Jonas Widarsson wrote: I said before somewhere that I would toss windows out of the window if it wasn't for all the games for windows, everyone else using IE and my internet bank system doesn't support mozilla. you'd be surprised at what mozilla

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Ric Messier wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Err, I'm surprised, but somehow I find it believable... Actually, I don't find it believable at all since I've installed XP Home a

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Ric Messier
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, daniel wrote: you'd be surprised at what mozilla would support. you just have to get mozilla to tell the site it's talking to that it's actually inernet exploder running on windows xp ;-) i use this trick to do much of my online banking 'cause i know damn well that

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
daniel wrote: Well... My bank uses a security plugin that only supports IE or Netscape 4 on mac or windows. *ugly words*... Are you sure? Mozilla supports netscape plugins... As well as Konquorer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonas Widarsson
Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 21:57, Ric Messier wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Err, I'm surprised, but somehow I find it believable... Actually, I don't find

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Ric Messier
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jonas Widarsson wrote: What? I'm pretty sure I was never given that option! Would have been during the install. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/gettingstarted/guide/newinstallation.asp My XP is swedish, but it can't be about that, can it? I

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
oppps, daniel did not write this, Jonas did.. Sorry daniel.. daniel wrote: Well... My bank uses a security plugin that only supports IE or Netscape 4 on mac or windows. *ugly words*... Are you sure? Mozilla supports netscape plugins... As well as Konquorer -- [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Ric Messier
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jonas Widarsson wrote: OH SHT! I didn't know of that! convert works well. been a while since i've used it. requires a reboot since it won't convert a live filesystem (needs to mount it read only to convert, iirc). Seems like doing it, but I'm suspicious about NTFS and

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread SN
Widarsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop. Tom Wesley wrote: (Anyone jealous?) Haha I kinda felt gentoo users are mostly the kind that doesn't use windows at all, and dual boot

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonathan Stickel
daniel wrote: On December 1, 2003 03:32 pm, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Jonas Widarsson wrote: I have an Acer Aspire 1703 SM laptop. I think the HD is an ordinary one, like those in stationary computers. I don't know much about how todays harddrives behave, so I'm wondering whether someone has recent

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jonas Widarsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Not true. -- Hilsen Harald. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

RE: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Mark Knecht
I would suggest QtParted (a gui for parted, http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/). I've never used it, but it looks like it should work with FAT32. As already mentioned, KNOPPIX would be helpful to get started since you can boot from it and will have a full set of gnu/linux tools available.

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Jonas Widarsson wrote: Well... My bank uses a security plugin that only supports IE or Netscape 4 on mac or windows. *ugly words*... Which one is it ? I guess 1-st Albanian ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Redeeman
ntfs READ is rock solid in linux, never tried to write, but in the new 2.6 partly stabile write support is On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 23:11, Jonas Widarsson wrote: Tom Wesley wrote: On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 21:57, Ric Messier wrote: On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Jonathan Stickel
Mark Knecht wrote: I would suggest QtParted (a gui for parted, http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/). I've never used it, but it looks like it should work with FAT32. As already mentioned, KNOPPIX would be helpful to get started since you can boot from it and will have a full set of gnu/linux tools

Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.

2003-12-01 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 20:46, Jonathan Stickel wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: It looks quite nice, but the features page doesn't list FAT as a supported file system type... - Mark It is really strange that that qtparted web page deosn't list FAT32 support. I am very sure it is