Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 25 September 2008, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi, ~ Then, revdep-rebuild display like this. | [ebuild R ] media-libs/tiff-3.8.2-r5 | [ebuild R ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.4.3.5 | [ebuild R ] media-libs/lcms-1.17 | [ebuild U ] media-libs/vigra-1.6.0 [1.5.0-r1] | [ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 September 2008 06:05:20 SOrCErEr wrote: As you can see, there is a package vigra with flag U. As I know, U is need to update, and if I do emerge --update world, it will be update. But there is no vigra in result of emerge -p --update world(with --deep also). Of course, it

Re: [gentoo-user] app-arch/zip-3.0 fails to build without 'crypt'

2008-09-25 Thread David Sveningsson
Alexander Beregalov skrev: zip.c:3455 IZ_PWLEN is not defined whith NO_CRYPT [snip] But I can not find how it is related to CRYPT/NO_CRYPT I cannot reproduce this (and I even use -Wl,--as-needed). Whats your emerge --info? Which arch? Which other useflags is enabled? -- //*David

Re: [gentoo-user] app-arch/zip-3.0 fails to build without 'crypt'

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/9/24 Alexander Beregalov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe you should look in the bug database first: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238398

Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, but I still see no reason why HFS+ is required. Have you mastered OS X install CD/DVDs using AppleUDF and have them behave identically to HFS+ CD/DVDs? Did you? Why do your answers look as if you were unwilling to even give it a try? Also,

[gentoo-user] tightvnc and clipboard

2008-09-25 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi! I use tightvnc between linux and linux host. But the clipboard didn't work. After I hightlight the word or use CTRL+C in one machine, I got nothing when I pasted in another machine. $ cat /etc/conf.d/vnc DISPLAYS=wcw:1 $ cat xstartup #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources unset SESSION_MANAGER

Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice dies on startup

2008-09-25 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 25 September 2008 05:37:14 schrieb ext Kevin O'Gorman: openoffice-bin has been compiled with a given set of use flags and on a machine that may or may not match what you have. Compiling it yourself is always the better idea. Not so obviously better when it fails.  Here's the

[gentoo-user] Re: app-arch/zip-3.0 fails to build without 'crypt'

2008-09-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Alexander Beregalov wrote: zip.c:3455 IZ_PWLEN is not defined whith NO_CRYPT mailing lists (let alone directly e-mailing developers) is not how you fix bugs. we have a bugzilla. use it please. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread SOrCErEr
$ eix -l|grep \[U\] [U] app-arch/rpm2targz [U] app-editors/gedit [U] app-text/build-docbook-catalog [U] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd [U] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets [U] app-text/libspectre [U] dev-lang/python [U] dev-lang/swig [U] dev-libs/libcdio [U] dev-perl/Compress-Raw-Zlib [U]

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:54 PM, SOrCErEr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ eix -l|grep \[U\] [U] app-arch/rpm2targz [U] app-editors/gedit [U] app-text/build-docbook-catalog [U] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd [U] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets [U] app-text/libspectre [U] dev-lang/python [U]

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:54:06 +0900, SOrCErEr wrote: As you can see, result of eix has vigra, but of emerge still doesn't have. Also, many of flag U package is excepted from emerge --update. If so, I think Gentoo's world is not whole world. No it's not. A world update affects only the

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 September 2008 12:12:23 Vladimir Rusinov wrote: Gentoo's world only contains packages you have installed manually (emerge package). and without -1 option. Would does not contains packages that have been installed as dependencies to other packages. You could view

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/9/25 SOrCErEr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is difference with emerge --update world and emerge vigra? And how can I update all new package without exceptions? If you know, please let me know. When looking at the packages to be merged, I guess you are running unstable gentoo. Which version

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread James
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielmeier at googlemail.com writes: Also make sure you have a clean world file, which means if there is an entry which is already needed by something else it should normally be removed as this could cause problems. Ahhh, Excellent point that I have been pondering

[gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Grant
Firefox is crashing on me all the time. I searched for an alternative and came up with epiphany. I like it but I can't get flash to work. I've emerged epiphany with the xulrunner USE flag and I've re-emerged netscape-flash with no luck. Does anyone know how to get flash working? Can java be

[gentoo-user] Re: hdparm Compact Flash

2008-09-25 Thread James
Simon turner25 at gmail.com writes: I am another newbie trying to answer a question, here on my eeepc 701, hdparm gives even more limited information. This is a 2g kingston compact flash. (Note that even though last line reports i/o error, nothing was written in /var/log/messages about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:08:23 + (UTC), James wrote: Do you have any further advice, more detail or some more formalized methodology to 'clean' the world file, Hack out anything you think is unnecessary Run emerge --depclean -p Add anything you need with emerge -n Rinse and repeat -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Hahn
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 08:12:27AM -0700, Grant wrote: Firefox is crashing on me all the time. I searched for an alternative and came up with epiphany. I like it but I can't get flash to work. Chances are Epiphany is more stable *because* you don't have Flash in it - it often causes Firefix to

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 03:27, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also make sure you have a clean world file, which means if there is an entry which is already needed by something else it should normally be removed as this could cause problems. I can understand that if I have both

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/9/25 James [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you have any further advice, more detail or some more formalized methodology to 'clean' the world file, in addition to what you have stated above? Every entry in the world file that has a reverse dependency could be removed. Unfortunately there is no

Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Grant
Firefox is crashing on me all the time. I searched for an alternative and came up with epiphany. I like it but I can't get flash to work. Chances are Epiphany is more stable *because* you don't have Flash in it - it often causes Firefix to crash. I recommend to either try one of the open

Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Hahn
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 08:54:52AM -0700, Grant wrote: Do you mean open-source alternatives to netscape-flash? If so, can you recommend one? I personally use netscape-flash because the open source don't support flash completely. There are two alternatives: * gnash * swfdec (swfdec-mozilla for

Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Benjamin Leggett
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:12:27 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Firefox is crashing on me all the time. I searched for an alternative and came up with epiphany. I like it but I can't get flash to work. I've emerged epiphany with the xulrunner USE flag and I've re-emerged netscape-flash

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem building statically linked e2fsprogs

2008-09-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 22:34 +0200, Maarten wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: The grep package has a static USE flag. e2fsprogs does not. So enabling the static USE flag has no effect on e2fsprogs. Ehm, how do you figure that? It surely displays the static USE flag: thoughtpad ~ # emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: Firefox is crashing on me all the time. I searched for an alternative and came up with epiphany. I like it but I can't get flash to work. I've emerged epiphany with the xulrunner USE flag and I've re-emerged netscape-flash with no luck. Does anyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Hahn
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 05:34:47PM +, James wrote: Seamonkey seems to be working fine with flash I do not use it tons, but a few times a day and it seems to be just fine with Seamonkey. This has not always been the case though Whether flash works or not seems to be pretty random. I once

[gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread James
Daniel Pielmeier daniel.pielmeier at googlemail.com writes: to 'clean' the world file, in addition to what you have stated above? [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172611 Daniel Hello Daniel, What you have told me looks interesting. However, for now, I'm going to clean up the

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem building statically linked e2fsprogs

2008-09-25 Thread Maarten
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 22:34 +0200, Maarten wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: # ldd e2fsck/e2fsck linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb8033000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7edb000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8034000) Ehm, exactly. So yes, it uses less libraries than

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem building statically linked e2fsprogs

2008-09-25 Thread Erik Hahn
I don't know much about servers so this might be rather stupid, but: What about dismounting the driver and fsck'ing it in another computer? -Erik -- hackerkey://v4sw5hw2ln3pr5ck0ma2u7LwXm4l7Gi2e2t4b7Ken4/7a16s0r1p-5.62/-6.56g5OR

[gentoo-user] CF and Gentoo

2008-09-25 Thread James
Hello, Background: I've been on a journey to migrate many servers (firewalls and dns) to Compact Flash (CF) drives to improve reliability, ease in new installation, ease replacing hard drivers that fail, duplicating drives that fail and cloning servers with a simple, straightforward

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem building statically linked e2fsprogs

2008-09-25 Thread Stroller
On 25 Sep 2008, at 20:02, Erik Hahn wrote: I don't know much about servers so this might be rather stupid, but: What about dismounting the driver and fsck'ing it in another computer? I think the problem is that the drive (the server) is in a physically remote location. (from the original

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 September 2008 17:51:58 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Do you have any further advice, more detail or some more formalized methodology to 'clean' the world file, in addition to what you have stated above? Every entry in the world file that has a reverse dependency could be

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 September 2008 17:51:42 Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 03:27, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also make sure you have a clean world file, which means if there is an entry which is already needed by something else it should normally be removed as

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 25 September 2008 17:51:58 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Do you have any further advice, more detail or some more formalized methodology to 'clean' the world file, in addition to what you have stated above?

Re: [gentoo-user] CF and Gentoo

2008-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:18:56 + (UTC), James wrote: I've been on a journey to migrate many servers (firewalls and dns) to Compact Flash (CF) drives to improve reliability, Bear in mind the limited write lifetime of flash memory. Don't put /var or /tmp on such a card if you can avoid it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:55:10 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: Yes, basically my philosophy is only to list in world the actual programs I want to use. Same here, which is why I recommended editing the world file. Anything you don't use directly can go. It's also a good way of cleaning out those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 25 September 2008 23:43:07 Neil Bothwick wrote: Some packages have optional run-time deps, say a multimedia program that can convert files if you have ffmpeg installed, so in those cases those optional packages will also be in world. That shouldn't happen. Portage is supposed

[gentoo-user] Getting python-2.3 back

2008-09-25 Thread Kirk Lowery
I'm maintaining some legacy software (don't ask ;-) that won't work on python-2.4, but needs 2.3. During upgrading today, I inadvertently allowed 2.3 to be deleted. I looked in portage, but it is apparently gone. Any suggestions on finding the old ebuild so that I can slot it in? TIA! Kirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice dies on startup

2008-09-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag 25 September 2008 05:37:14 schrieb ext Kevin O'Gorman: openoffice-bin has been compiled with a given set of use flags and on a machine that may or may not match what you have. Compiling it yourself is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:59:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That shouldn't happen. That would indeed be a truly wonderful thing... Note that I used shouldn't and not doesn't :( -- Neil Bothwick He's so cool, he could get frostbite from masturbating. signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-user] hduitil for linux

2008-09-25 Thread Andrey Vul
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:23 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrey Vul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, AFAIK UDF doesn't support embedded control characters in files (i.e. Icon\r). This claim is of course wrong. I beg to differ. Output of ls -Alh in the Installer.app dir is

Re: [gentoo-user] Question about difference between emerge --update world and emerge vigra

2008-09-25 Thread SOrCErEr
2008/9/25 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday 25 September 2008 12:12:23 Vladimir Rusinov wrote: Gentoo's world only contains packages you have installed manually (emerge package). and without -1 option. Would does not contains packages that have been installed as dependencies to

Re: [gentoo-user] epiphany flash

2008-09-25 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Erik, on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 05:34:11PM +0200, you wrote: Chances are Epiphany is more stable *because* you don't have Flash in it - it often causes Firefix to crash. Likely. Pretty much the only reason of FF3 crashes here. I recommend to either try one of the open source alternatives or

Re: [gentoo-user] Ssmtp gotcha

2008-09-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:26:13AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote After an urgent inquiry re my health from a friend, I discovered that e-mails had not been getting out of my machine for 7 days . I tracked the problem down to a change in /etc/group when I updated Ssmtp 2.61-r2 - 2.62-r3 :