Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 00:05:56 schrieb Harry Putnam: I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Slow? For me it's blazingly fast. Bye... Dirk

RE: [gentoo-user] Avahi Keeps failing on Emerge - Maybe a Python Error?

2008-11-16 Thread Richard Watson
Hi, Avahi keeps failing with what looks like a Python gtk module error that I can't seem to figure out. I've done the obvious by re-emerging python (with running python-updater) and pygtk but it still fails. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Richard The configure failure message is:

Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers-8.552-r1 is blocking xorg-server

2008-11-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 16 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I can't figure out how to fix this. emerge ati-drivers gives this: [ebuild N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r1 USE=acpi -debug 74,042 kB [blocks B ] x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.2) I'm trying

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
dirvish is in portage. tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things like versioning, archive management and the all important restore. Dirvish is excellent on all but restore. BillK On Sat,

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 16 November 2008, William Kenworthy wrote: dirvish is in portage. tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things like versioning, archive management and the all important restore.

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 02:24:10 Harry Putnam wrote: I posted some output in anther thread concerning update world (Subject: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem) Someone noticed I had too many x11 drivers installed and suggested I set the /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS variable

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 02:08:42 Mick wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I keep mine simple, cp

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 11:04:41 William Kenworthy wrote: dirvish is in portage. tar/rsync/cp are not really backups but manual copies. If you want true backup you need scripts to handle the extra functionality for things like versioning, archive management and the all important restore.

Re: [gentoo-user] stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-16 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Attempting to install stumpwm-cvs I run into an emerge failure with on of the dependencies; dev-lisp/cmucl. Below is a snippet from the end of the emerge of dev-lisp/cmucl-l-19d_p2. Can anyone see what might be the problem? [...] Hi. First of all,

Re: [gentoo-user] Binary package cruncher?

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 15 November 2008 19:40:50 Simon wrote:    This is not super efficient, but the way I've thought it, should be simple to do... a simple gentoo hack so to speak.  However, I'm wondering if anybody has suggestion for better ways to do this and if you could give me pointers to such

Re: [gentoo-user] stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-16 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
{OT} 2008/11/16 fortune wrote: Emacs, n.: A slow-moving parody of a text editor. - This message may be digitally signed: GPG KeyID:0x9D2FD6C8 || FNMT SSL cert Damn! Of course, signature statements are not shared by poster... :(

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 15. November 2008 20:45:04 schrieb Mick: Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I guess I would use rsnapshot to backup to another disk/machine if I had only a small

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 12:31:16 William Kenworthy wrote: *  app-backup/dirvish       Latest version available: 1.2.1       Latest version installed: 1.2.1       Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest]       Homepage:    http://www.dirvish.org/       Description: Dirvish is a fast, disk

Re: [gentoo-user] .mov files not showing video

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Philipp
Michael Moore schrieb: Hi, I received a few quicktime files from a friend; however, when I play it there is no video. The audio stream is fine. My friend can play it fine in the application Media Player Classic for Microsoft Xp. [...] Any pointers would be handy. Can you post the

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
It actually does a very fast, space efficient backup management. As for restore, each backup is effectively an uncompressed fully accessible mirror image so you can manually copy/tar/... etc back for the full system, or individual files. The developers basically say we have a working backup

Re: [gentoo-user] Binary package cruncher?

2008-11-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 16 November 2008 10:05:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008 19:40:50 Simon wrote:    This is not super efficient, but the way I've thought it, should be simple to do... a simple gentoo hack so to speak.  However, I'm wondering if anybody has suggestion for better

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.26 and iwl3945

2008-11-16 Thread Florian Philipp
Florian Philipp schrieb: Hi list! I recently updated from tuxonice-2.6.24-r9 to tuxonice-2.6.26. I hoped it would solve irregular kernel crashes on my Dell notebook and would reactivate the wifi LED. However, it caused more problems than it solved. [...] Is this kernel version

Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion

2008-11-16 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 15 November 2008, 21:55, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for the effect considering the computer as idle. I have performed a quick

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Mick
On Sunday 16 November 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2008 02:08:42 Mick wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server

Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion

2008-11-16 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. I have a crappy mouse made in China. One of its problems is that the mouse pointer sometimes moves even while the mouse is not moving. Usually this manifests by the pointer shaking, moving back and forward one or two pixels very fast

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 12:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2008 12:31:16 William Kenworthy wrote: * app-backup/dirvish Latest version available: 1.2.1 Latest version installed: 1.2.1 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 13:51:23 Mick wrote: Yes. Unix does some RealSmartThings(tm) when using files. The name is just a pointer to the actual file, represented by an inode. Once you have an inode open, it stays open until everything using it closes it. So you can add/delete/copy/move

Re: [gentoo-user] How to stop mouse motion

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008, 21:55, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: So I want a way to tell the kernel or X11 to ignore mouse motion. Either to shut down mouse motion completely, or to allow it but to ignore it for

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 14:36:22 William Kenworthy wrote: I wouldnt call it fair trade, rather its working now and we'll make it better it eventually. I agree, backups should be just that - protection from mistakes/lost data.  However this is from someone who has the archives mounted via

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.26 and iwl3945

2008-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 16 November 2008 13:02:54 Florian Philipp wrote: Can anyone say: Yeah, I use the iwl3945 driver with 2.6.26 and it works flawlessly for me. If so, could you please post your exact kernel version (for example gentoo-sources-2.6.26-r2) and your kernel config? No-one can say that, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Avahi Keeps failing on Emerge - Maybe a Python Error?

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Avahi keeps failing with what looks like a Python gtk module error that I can't seem to figure out. I've done the obvious by re-emerging python (with running python-updater) and pygtk but it still fails. I attach the

[gentoo-user] X -- swapping keys, keyboard rate

2008-11-16 Thread felix
I use to have an X config many years ago, but one of the X upgrades didn't like it and I had a lot of trouble trying to get it working again, and then I found the new X was happy without any config file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf), so I have been running that way for some time. But the upgrade to 1.5, I

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
Someone noticed I had too many x11 drivers installed and suggested I set the /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS variable (which I never have set before) I figured out I have an nvidia card so set VIDEO_CARDS=nv Now with my emerge -vuDN @system @world complete I'm unable to start X. (More on that

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
No, nvidia is for the proprietary binary nvida driver. The free driver for nvidia cards is called NV. By NV I meant nv. I always see it uncapitalized, so I think this (nv) is its name, not NV. Sorry for the typo.

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted some output in anther thread concerning update world (Subject: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem) Someone noticed I had too many x11 drivers installed and suggested I set the /etc/make.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] .mov files not showing video

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Moore
On 11:58 Sun 16 Nov , Florian Philipp wrote: Can you post the output of mplayer when you want to play these files - possibly with -v? Do you use a 64bit or 32bit system? I use 64bit system (mostly stable), with the multilib profile. Verbose Mplayer output is attached. As an aside,

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 01:24:10 schrieb Harry Putnam: But a little peek with eix -Ic |grep x11-drivers  I still see a hefty mess of them: They wont go away just because you've set VIDEO_CARDS. You have to uninstall them either manually or by running emerge --depclean (-p). HTH...

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 01:24:10 schrieb Harry Putnam: dep -l x11-drivers/xf86-video-voodoo:    ! x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 Actaully, the output is: # dep -l x11-drivers/xf86-video-voodoo x11-drivers/xf86-video-voodoo-1.1.1: !=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 And this means: You

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted some output in anther thread concerning update world (Subject: How to fix a hefty (emerge) blocking problem) Someone

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 16:12:58 schrieb Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted some output in anther thread concerning

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 16:12:58 schrieb Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Harry Putnam [EMAIL

[gentoo-user] Framebuffer change from 2.6.26 to 2.6.27

2008-11-16 Thread felix
When I boot 2.6.27-r2, it creates /dev/fb0 and /dev/db, which X complains about and refuses to run. My machine has an ATI Radeon and X under 2.6.26 finds the right driver just fine, but X under 2.6.27 just barfs and refuses to run. I can del the two device entries and X is happy, but this seems

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dale
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Someone noticed I had too many x11 drivers installed and suggested I set the /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS variable (which I never have set before) I figured out I have an nvidia card so set VIDEO_CARDS=nv Now with my emerge -vuDN @system @world complete I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Back up a server in real-time

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2008, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Without gentoo-wiki my knowledge level is rather poor (just like my memory!) What would you use to back up a running server without taking it off line? I keep mine

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
Give this a shot: VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia No, nvidia is for the proprietary binary nvida driver. The free driver for nvidia cards is called NV. I have a GeForce4 MX 440 and I have this in my make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=nv vesa What you say may be true, pretty sure it is, but what he is doing is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] /etc/shadow perms group shadow?

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Higgins
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:01:54 +0100 Michele Schiavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/sudoers ?? I think I'm trying to avoid running under sudo. Yes, that works, but must have other security implications? In researching the problem, the workaround I posted was cribbed from other distros which

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] /etc/shadow perms group shadow?

2008-11-16 Thread Michael Higgins
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 06:45:54 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Nov 2008, at 00:57, Michael Higgins wrote: ... An application runs as a web server. In this application I have hooks to PAM. The results I was getting from attempting to authorize against PAM were fruitless,

Re: [gentoo-user] excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dale
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: Give this a shot: VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia No, nvidia is for the proprietary binary nvida driver. The free driver for nvidia cards is called NV. I have a GeForce4 MX 440 and I have this in my make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=nv vesa What you say may

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 00:05:56 schrieb Harry Putnam: I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Slow? For me it's blazingly fast. Just to install it requires 3 pkgs to be installed: Just to install, it wants three packages

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] /etc/shadow perms group shadow?

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 18:24:17 schrieb Michael Higgins: On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:01:54 +0100 Michele Schiavo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/sudoers ?? I think I'm trying to avoid running under sudo. Yes, that works, but must have other security implications? Which ones? You know that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 19:04:02 schrieb Harry Putnam: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Sonntag, 16. November 2008 00:05:56 schrieb Harry Putnam: I did try `cfg-update' but I thought it was really slow. Slow? For me it's blazingly fast. Just to install it requires 3

[gentoo-user] Re: ati-drivers-8.552-r1 is blocking xorg-server

2008-11-16 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 16 November 2008, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I can't figure out how to fix this. emerge ati-drivers gives this: [ebuild N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r1 USE=acpi -debug 74,042 kB [blocks B ] x11-drivers/ati-drivers (is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] Binary package cruncher?

2008-11-16 Thread Simon
I would build all that stuff in a chroot. The logic is that the your buildhost system is not quite the same thing as the machine hosting the buildhost. That's the big trick I was thinking about... 1) Make a proper development environment under a chroot, place the binworld on top of world. 2)

Re: [gentoo-user] Binary package cruncher?

2008-11-16 Thread Simon
Another possibility is to use distcc. I haven't used it recently, but an earlier version seemed ok. Distcc is used to speed compilation time. But the point is that even if I set distcc hosts to not be on the localhost (ie, just compile remotely and only use localhost to manage the whole

[gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe just by experience in using the tool it would get handier and faster Just doing the automatic stuff, where no user intervention is involved _is_ blazingly fast. How fast you are in running the diff/merge tool of _your_ choice is, well,

[gentoo-user] Re: stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila) writes: Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Attempting to install stumpwm-cvs I run into an emerge failure with on of the dependencies; dev-lisp/cmucl. Below is a snippet from the end of the emerge of dev-lisp/cmucl-l-19d_p2. Can anyone see

[gentoo-user] Re: excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not only concerned about the problem reported in this thread; I also want to give opinion on his larger update a very outdated system task. Just for the record... I seem to have gotten things under control and did set

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: stumpwm users .. need help with failed emerge

2008-11-16 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila) writes: And regarding cmucl build error, there's a bug report on b.g.o. with a patch that seems to fix it [2]. I've downloaded that but not used it yet. But I seem to recall that when you change an ebuild,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: excess x11 drivers

2008-11-16 Thread Dale
Harry Putnam wrote: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not only concerned about the problem reported in this thread; I also want to give opinion on his larger update a very outdated system task. Just for the record... I seem to have gotten things under

[gentoo-user] Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
After looking at: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap2 [ Ebuild HOWTO ] Reading only partially so far but this looks really complicated. I thought I remembered a more nuts and bolts howto somewhere more appropriate for someone getting started who is

Re: [gentoo-user] Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-16 Thread David Relson
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:16:26 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: After looking at: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap2 [ Ebuild HOWTO ] Reading only partially so far but this looks really complicated. I thought I remembered a more nuts and bolts howto

[gentoo-user] Re: Nots and bolts of creating an ebuild

2008-11-16 Thread Harry Putnam
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:16:26 -0600 Harry Putnam wrote: [ Ebuild HOWTO ] Reading only partially so far but this looks really complicated. I thought I remembered a more nuts and bolts howto somewhere more appropriate for someone getting started who

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng Vs rsyslog

2008-11-16 Thread ThaUnderDog
Have you experience perhaps of rsyslog and how does it compare with gentoo's default syslog-ng? The native/internal modules of db writes and alerting of rsyslog sound promising. There's a comparison here: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-rsyslog_ng_comparison.html Portage isn't in sync with rsyslogs

[gentoo-user] How to install ghhhostscript ?

2008-11-16 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I want to reinstall ghostscript. I did for checking reasons: solfire:/rootemerge -pv ghostscript These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] virtual/ghostscript-0 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install ghhhostscript ?

2008-11-16 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to reinstall ghostscript. I did for checking reasons: solfire:/rootemerge -pv ghostscript These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ]

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install ghhhostscript ?

2008-11-16 Thread Andrey Vul
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 00:21, Rich Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to reinstall ghostscript. I did for checking reasons: solfire:/rootemerge -pv ghostscript These are the packages that would be merged,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to install ghhhostscript ?

2008-11-16 Thread Iain Buchanan
Andrey Vul wrote: If you have eix installed, run the following: # eix ghostscript -I -C app-text --only-names | xargs emerge -pv and then # eix ghostscript -I -C app-text --only-names | xargs emerge better to do it just once: # eix ghostscript -I -C app-text --only-names | xargs emerge -va

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tools currently available for update of etc files after updates

2008-11-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 16 November 2008 21:18:44 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or maybe just by experience in using the tool it would get handier and faster Just doing the automatic stuff, where no user intervention is involved _is_ blazingly fast. How fast