Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:39:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: My personal favorite tho, smart fans. My CPU has a sensor under it and varies the CPU fan with temp. I have done the same with my case fans and it works pretty well. One spinning at a good rate is best tho just to keep air

Re: [gentoo-user] start X at startup without a login manager

2009-03-21 Thread Florian Philipp
Sebastian Günther schrieb: * Florian Philipp (li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net) [20.03.09 19:09]: fei huang schrieb: I don't have any xdm, gdm stuff but would like to start my windows manager directly at startup, cause I'm the only one that use it. You know that this is a possible security

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:39:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: My personal favorite tho, smart fans. My CPU has a sensor under it and varies the CPU fan with temp. I have done the same with my case fans and it works pretty well. One spinning at a good rate

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Robin Atwood
On Saturday 21 Mar 2009, Dale wrote: What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. I would think a temperature sensor would be better myself. I !think! gkrellm can do that. I'm sure there is a way to do it automatically

[gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove qt-4.4.2

2009-03-21 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Hi, when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results: [...] These are the packages that would be unmerged: x11-libs/qt selected: 4.4.2 protected: none omitted: 3.3.8b-r1 x11-libs/qt-assistant selected: 4.4.2-r1 protected: none omitted: none

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean wants to remove qt-4.4.2

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Marc Blumentritt schrieb am 21.03.2009 14:33: Hi, when I run emerge -p --depclen, I get these results: [...] These are the packages that would be unmerged: x11-libs/qt selected: 4.4.2 protected: none omitted: 3.3.8b-r1 x11-libs/qt-assistant selected: 4.4.2-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the temperature get quite high. lm_sensors includes a daemon that

[gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Jarry
Hi, I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly full (90%) And I have /backup on separate partition (hda1),

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 21 March 2009 20:05:42 Jarry wrote: Hi, I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly full

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:05:42 schrieb Jarry: I found out my /usr is getting full pretty fast, so I want to increase it before it happens a real problem. I have: /dev/md4 (sda5+sdb5), ~5GB size, used for /var, nearly empty /dev/md5 (sda6+sdb6), ~5GB size, used for /usr, nearly full (90%)

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 21. März 2009 19:12:56 schrieb Alan McKinnon: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: /usr/usr/ /var/var You want: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/ cp

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Jarry
Alan McKinnon wrote: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: /usr/usr/ /var/var You want: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/ cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/ Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 21 March 2009 20:39:08 Jarry wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var /mnt/gentoo/var cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr Um, no. This gives you new usr and var directories like so: /usr/usr/ /var/var You want: cp -a /mnt/gentoo/backup/var

Re: [gentoo-user] rhythmbox is looking for an older shared object

2009-03-21 Thread dhk
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 05:44:04PM -0400, dhk wrote revdep-rebuild is flagging rhythmbox as requiring libtotem-plparser.so.10 . After the last upgrade all I have installed in /usr/lib64/ is libtotem-plparser.so.12 . Should I just make a link or do I need to install an older

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Troeder
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 19:39 +0100, Jarry wrote: I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for, if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before extending... This is

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:39:08 +0100, Jarry wrote: I remember having lvm2 a few years ago, and despite of that I could not extend any partition, which was being used. What is then lvm2 good for, if I can not extend partitions on-the-fly? I can not unmount /usr before extending... You can

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread BRM
With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate to also mention the risk. On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to upgrade partitions every now and then and my previous solution was add another drive/partition and cross mount - e.g. like done with

[gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Michael P. Soulier
So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1 [2.16.6] [ebuild N]

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Michael P. Soulier schrieb am 21.03.2009 22:17: So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ]

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Nick Fortino
Michael P. Soulier wrote: So, I checked for updates and I saw this. These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-text/tree-1.5.2.2 [1.5.2.1] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.7.3 [2.7.2-r2] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/glib-2.18.4-r1

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said: It seems like you are reading the message correctly, but you are focusing on the wrong part. The problem here is gail, not gtk+. What should happen is gail-1000 is installed as part of this upgrade, and then the block is resolved. The output of equery list -p

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving this block

2009-03-21 Thread Nick Fortino
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 21/03/09 Nick Fortino said: It seems like you are reading the message correctly, but you are focusing on the wrong part. The problem here is gail, not gtk+. What should happen is gail-1000 is installed as part of this upgrade, and then the block is resolved.

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Grant
I have another dead power supply and/or another dead motherboard in my Gentoo router.  I've tried to make that system as silent as possible and I wonder if I'm paying the price.  How do you guys monitor system temperatures?  Is lm_sensors the way to go?  How do you keep an eye on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the temperature get quite high.

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:58:05 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0500, Dale wrote: What may also be a good idea is to have some way to shut the systems down when they get to hot or if the A/C fails. Most BIOSes will do this

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:13:49 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote: So, unless you are looking to use LVM in a soft-RAID solution between multiple physical drives, not multiple partitions on the same drive, (e.g. partition A = sda1 + sda2, with mirror on sdb1+sdb2), then I would not suggest it as should

Re: [gentoo-user] Monitoring temperatures

2009-03-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:58:05 -0500, Dale wrote: Most BIOSes will do this automatically,although they tend to let the temperature get quite high. lm_sensors includes a daemon that will monitor temperatures and send warnings and alarms. I may be wrong here, but doesn't it just shut off like

[gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Diehl
Ok now, I'm getting fed up with all of the breakage that I've seen in Gentoo in the last few months. I'm trying to upgrade MythTV. Emerge told me to upgrade my profile, which I did. Now I'm doing an emerge -u world. But before I could do that, I had to upgrade portage, with made sense.

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote: Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for normal, every day, usage? If you're prepared to update you system at least once a week and have up-to-date knowledge of all the installed stuff, so

Re: [gentoo-user] extending /usr partition...

2009-03-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 14:13 -0700, BRM wrote: With all the words of LVM2 going on, I feel it is only appropriate to also mention the risk. On a desktop I had installed LVM2 considering that I did need to upgrade partitions every now and then and my previous solution was add another

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Dale
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote: Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for normal, every day, usage? If you're prepared to update you system at least once a week and have up-to-date

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Diehl
On Saturday 21 March 2009 21:00:11 Dale wrote: Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:53 -0600 Mike Diehl mdi...@diehlnet.com wrote: Has Gentoo become such a moving target that it's no longer suitable for normal, every day, usage? If you're prepared to update you system at