[gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Remy Blank
Alan McKinnon wrote: Agreed. The elog message strikes me as merely an enthusiastic endorsement of cool shiny new stuff from an over-zealous maintainer who doesn't quite grasp how slow traction can be in the real world While that may be true, and even though he did make a few mistakes in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Google's public DNS service

2009-12-08 Thread Adam
I know that anyone can use any DNS server that's exposed to the internet, also for free, so what's the big deal about google? IMO a DNS server configured that way is poorly configured (unless you're actually trying to run a public service, as google is). Instead the use of BINDs allow-recursion

Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install

2009-12-08 Thread dhk
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 06:36:25PM -0500, dhk wrote I started hald and rebuilt the drivers: startx still fails. I've hard-masked hal and dbus (and pam) in /etc/portage/package.mask and X runs OK. From your messages, I assume you've got some ATI card. What

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:02:47 +0100, Remy Blank wrote: So, going back to the initial question, you could just emerge Python 3.1, enable it in USE_PYTHON in make.conf, but leave 2.6 as a default. Where is USE_PYTHON documented? I see no mention of it in man make.conf, make.conf.example or the

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread dhk
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.9 * -

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 13:06:28 dhk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!! existing preserved libs:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug

2009-12-08 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Let me emphasise yet again: the way I do things has been successful on 2 machines for more than 6 years; it's others who have problems doing it their way regularly seek advice on this list as a result. Let me correct you there:

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 13:06:28 dhk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 20:10:31 Jarry wrote: Hi, I update my server quite frequently without any problem, but today after running emerge -uDN world I got these messages: - !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: I have the same problem, but the emerge -av1 util-linux has blocking issues with sys-fs/e2fsprogs. Whenever I remove sys-fs stuff I usually regret it. You must remove the e2fsprogs* packages, emerge util-linux and re-emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: I have the same problem, but the emerge -av1 util-linux has blocking issues with sys-fs/e2fsprogs. Whenever I remove sys-fs stuff I usually regret it. You must remove the e2fsprogs* packages, emerge

[gentoo-user] Re: Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Remy Blank
Neil Bothwick wrote: Where is USE_PYTHON documented? I see no mention of it in man make.conf, make.conf.example or the portage elogs. In /usr/portage/eclass/python.eclass ;-) To be honest, I wanted that feature so badly that I dug through python.eclass as soon as I saw arfrever mention it.

Re: [gentoo-user] How can I solve emerge @preserved-rebuild loop?

2009-12-08 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/8/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 08 December 2009 14:08:47 Dale wrote: Is this the one where you need to fetch the files first, then un-emerge and emerge? I recall one being that way but not sure if it is this one. No, that was a while ago. This is simply a

[gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. Does this mean I must make that change in the kernel config today (I shutdown each night) or can it wait for 2

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED: should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2: should not be set. But it is. Does this mean I must make that change in the

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:26:26 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED: should not be set. But it is. * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2:

Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command

2009-12-08 Thread Alex Schuster
Xi Shen writes: yes i use / on LVM. Me too. i just cannot understand why the busybox in the initramfs that genkernel generates works fine, while mine reports error. And I do not understand why the wiping tmp stuff actually happens while you are still in the initramfs. For me, /tmp is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 07 December 2009 22:14:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:10:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The only benefit, which is questionable, is that python-3 is where its at development-wise, and maybe perhaps the 2* series will become unmaintained (shades of KDE-3). But I

[gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Greets, gentoo-users, I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with an emerge -avu system and after a successful reboot I did emerge -avuDN world. X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even tried a emerge -e world, just to get it right but still no luck. See my

Re: [gentoo-user] udev and SYSFS_DEPRECATED

2009-12-08 Thread Kelly Hirai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Allan Gottlieb wrote: At Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:26:26 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:09:49 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Today's emerge gave the following warning (in red). * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED:

Re: [gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Greets, gentoo-users, I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with an emerge -avu system and after a successful reboot I did emerge -avuDN world. X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even

Re: [gentoo-user] went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Joshua Murphy schrieb: Looking at that log, my first question is... does your thinkpad run 1680x1050? Yes. ThinkPad R61 ... The RECORD disable shouldn't make a difference on X actually loading, based on the message it gives, and the (EE) lines about dri/dri2 shouldn't be an issue with

[gentoo-user] Re: went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread walt
On 12/08/2009 11:26 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Greets, gentoo-users, I wanted to go to full ~x86 on my thinkpad these days, so I started with an emerge -avu system and after a successful reboot I did emerge -avuDN world. X11 didn't come up anymore ... I even tried a emerge -e world, just

Re: [gentoo-user] Why exactly am I supposed to install Python 3?

2009-12-08 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 07 December 2009 22:14:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 23:10:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The only benefit, which is questionable, is that python-3 is where its at development-wise, and maybe perhaps the 2* series will become unmaintained

Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command

2009-12-08 Thread Xi Shen
yeah, that's the point. the initramfs has already passed, and it seems the system did not successfully switch_root, and it still using busybox. my init script in the initramfs is a slightly modified version of the one on this page http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: went from x86 to ~x86: no more X11

2009-12-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.12.2009 01:24, schrieb walt: Looks to me like the X server *is* running, unless you left out the error message at the end of the log. No, nothing left out. Why do you say X didn't come up? Because it says so. I get that dialog X-Server could not be started (similar, I get the msg