Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-26 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/25/10 22:51:36, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:01:51 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 22:26:28 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on Tuesday 16 November

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote: Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using the Assembly language or

Re: [gentoo-user] 200-line patch to kernel = superkernel

2010-11-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2010-11-25 16:37, schrieb Florian Philipp: Anyway, if you want my solution, here it is, although it's mostly copy'n'paste from the original link: [...] Hope this helps, Florian Philipp Thanks a lot for that howto, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-l10n-4.4.5 and en_GB?

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 24 November 2010 21:10:38 Arttu V. wrote: Bug #343523 ? I thought not at first, but now I'm less sure. I'll wait for the patch by Andreas Hüttel to work its way into portage. Meanwhile, just to make a bit of progress, I've compiled kde-l10n with LINGUAS=en. Oh, and setting -j1

Re: [gentoo-user] copy paste problem from any app other than Konsole to Konsole

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 25 November 2010 12:54:07 Coert Waagmeester wrote: Using ksh in konsole. Whenever I select something in any app apart from Konsole, and middle click paste it in Konsole, it does not paste exactly as it should. I have attached a screenshot where I copy from Firefox to Konsole.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,that not my meaning, it is not about how to install gentoo On 26 November 2010 16:58, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 26 November 2010 06:07:58 sam new wrote: Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host client to build the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i486

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
thanks mick ,I am afraid that is not my meaning, it is not about how to install gentoo . where the frist system come from ,does it build using the Assembly language or machine language? I mean just give you X86 hardware and power , no OS, no livd cd . how to build On 26 November 2010 16:58,

Re: [gentoo-user] usb write delay

2010-11-26 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:31:48 +0100 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 23.11.2010 04:52, schrieb David Relson: I'd like to reduce the time delay between a command or program's writing to a file on a flash drive and when ext2 actually writes the data to the drive. How can I do this? Mount with

Re: [gentoo-user] usb write delay

2010-11-26 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:04:54 -0600 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:52 PM, David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: I'd like to reduce the time delay between a command or program's writing to a file on a flash drive and when ext2 actually writes the data to the drive.  

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Stroller
On 26/11/2010, at 6:07am, sam new wrote: Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... from source ,but where the frist system come from ,does it build using the Assembly language or machine

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:09 on Friday 26 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly: On 26/11/2010, at 6:07am, sam new wrote: Thanks all, I have a question , when we build the system, always use host client to build the toolchain , then GCC Glibc ...kernel some unity ... from

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread sam new
wow, you both did a good job , I asked lots of people and they did't say very clear, it suddenly enlightened me, thanks all. On 26 November 2010 22:32, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:09 on Friday 26 November 2010, Stroller did opine thusly:

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 26 November 2010 14:32:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: One could ask the question where did the first assembler come from? Just as the first OSes and compilers were written in assembler to bootstrap C, so the first assemblers were written in hex codes to bootstrap the assembler. But hex

[gentoo-user] Best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity?

2010-11-26 Thread Stroller
Hi there, As per subject, what's the best way to improve interactivity with heavy disk activity, please? Or perhaps a better question would be: what approaches are available? Presently my main Linux system is basically just a storage server with a *really slow* disk controller. I do all my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
Em 25-11-2010 19:14, walt escreveu: On 11/25/2010 06:55 AM, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: ... i try to compile some nice software like chromium, pyside or openoffice my system freeze. I can't do anything like use keyboard, mouse or switch betwenn windows. How can i find the motive to this strange

Re: [gentoo-user] copy paste problem from any app other than Konsole to Konsole

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 11:27:47 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 25 November 2010 12:54:07 Coert Waagmeester wrote: Using ksh in konsole. Whenever I select something in any app apart from Konsole, and middle click paste it in Konsole, it does not paste exactly as it should. I

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-l10n-4.4.5 and en_GB?

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Friday 26 November 2010 10:54:45 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 24 November 2010 21:10:38 Arttu V. wrote: Bug #343523 ? I thought not at first, but now I'm less sure. I'll wait for the patch by Andreas Hüttel to work its way into portage. Meanwhile, just to make a bit of progress,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Zhu Sha Zang wrote: I run the compilation without X, and try to acces over ssh. I can enter in machine, but so slowly. The system become unresponsive. If I stay the compilation process end, i can use the system again. Normally, i've compiled this sources into the night, when off from work.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:51:36 Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:01:51 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 16 November 2010 22:26:28 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 2010-11-16 22:24, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:12 on

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia and i/o problem

2010-11-26 Thread walt
On 11/26/2010 09:50 AM, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: I run the compilation without X, and try to acces over ssh. I can enter in machine, but so slowly. The system become unresponsive. If I stay the compilation process end, i can use the system again. Okay, that's not a 'freeze' (as I normally use

[gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. New build #1 with links and all.

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Dale, One thing to keep in mind w/ power supplies is that you don't want to run them normally at more than X% of peak capacity -- most of them have a sweet spot in load where they are rated for efficiency and noise. Choose your power supply based on that load % rather than max required

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Jason Weisberger
Couple of things to note: The geforce 210 is not even powerful enough to do 1080p blueray playback. Might want to consider a minor upgrade if you are going to do anything entertainment-wise on this system. Consider doing the ddr 3 system for longevity. If you do end up getting the ddr 2

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 26 November 2010, Dale wrote: I'm planning to build a new rig. My current rig is about 7 or 8 years old now and it needs to be updated. Current rig is AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram and a Abit NF7 v2.0 mobo. Couple hard drives too. New build #1 with links and all.

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 26 November 2010, Matthew Marlowe wrote: Dale, One thing to keep in mind w/ power supplies is that you don't want to run them normally at more than X% of peak capacity -- most of them have a sweet spot in load where they are rated for efficiency and noise. Choose your power

[gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Joseph
It seems to me new portage-2.1.9.24 doesn't like quickpkg, it complains: Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 * This package will overwrite one or more files that may belong to other * packages (see list below). You can use a command such as `portageq * owners / filename` to identify

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Volker, Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current workstation which is ~4yrs old w/ slow cpu and ancient video

[gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-26 Thread Hung Dang
Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I have also added source /var/lib/layman/make.conf to make.conf and update PORTDIR_OVERLAY= to /var/lib/layman/make.conf. After that I try to emerge elightenment and can only get

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Adam Carter
* package sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 NOT merged * * Detected file collision(s): * * /usr/bin/quickpkg Should I remove the quickpkg to install new portage or comment-out collision-protect in make.conf? I just ran the same update (and it reported it was going ahead with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Adam Carter
Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current workstation which is ~4yrs old w/ slow cpu and ancient video card

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 installation

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:39 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Hung Dang did opine thusly: Hi all, I am trying to get E17 on my computer using this guide http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/E17. I have also added source /var/lib/layman/make.conf to make.conf and update PORTDIR_OVERLAY= to

Re: [gentoo-user] quickpkg - blocking portage-2.1.9.24

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 07:47 on Saturday 27 November 2010, Joseph did opine thusly: It seems to me new portage-2.1.9.24 doesn't like quickpkg, it complains: Installing (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.24 * This package will overwrite one or more files that may belong to other *

Re: [gentoo-user] the origins of Unix

2010-11-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:18 on Friday 26 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Friday 26 November 2010 14:32:58 Alan McKinnon wrote: One could ask the question where did the first assembler come from? Just as the first OSes and compilers were written in assembler

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: Even my rig - hotter, doesn't reach 300W when I artificially torture the system. Normal 'max' load is in 200W range. An normal desktop? Under 100. OK -- just to find out the truth I've attached a kill-a-watt to my current workstation which

Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT. Building a rig. Want to get opinions before spending $$$

2010-11-26 Thread Dale
Jason Weisberger wrote: Couple of things to note: The geforce 210 is not even powerful enough to do 1080p blueray playback. Might want to consider a minor upgrade if you are going to do anything entertainment-wise on this system. Consider doing the ddr 3 system for longevity. If you do