Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:03:36 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: The postfix issue is separate and needs a glibc downgrade to fix. I am not sure I understand. I did the glibc upgrade and have not downgraded. I run postfix and my mail is coming and going. I had thought/hoped that postfix does

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Looking for a simple way to do a big copy at the command line. I have a bunch of files (maybe 100 right now, but it will grow) that I can find with locate and grep: c2stable ~ # locate Correlation | grep Builder |

[gentoo-user] cups hplib - how to divorce

2011-02-09 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I think cups-1.4.6 and my HP printer via USB can't live in harmony. Often, it gets stuck. Then it tries to use feed 1 (manual feed) although I have configured cups to use feed 2. Can I just remove hlip from my system, delete and add my printer again in cups. Has anybody made similar

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:38:37 +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Another way to do it is with find: find /home/mark/Builder -type f -iname '*csv' -exec cp {} ~mark/CorrelationTests \; Replace \; with + for a faster process, as Mark said there are hundreds of these files. Or, if you use zsh instead of

Re: [gentoo-user] cups hplib - how to divorce

2011-02-09 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/2/9 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: Hi, I think  cups-1.4.6 and my HP printer via USB can't live in harmony. Often, it gets stuck. Then it tries to use feed 1 (manual feed) although I have configured cups to use feed 2. Can I just remove hlip from my system, delete and

[gentoo-user] FIXED:Re: [drm] loading RV710 Microcode fails

2011-02-09 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras realnc at arcor.de writes: I use ati-drivers-10.11 All the instructions you received assume that you were using xf86-video-ati, *not* ati-drivers (also known as AMD Catalyst for Linux, AMD's proprietary binary driver for Radeon cards). Do *not* install any firmware

Re: [gentoo-user] cups hplib - how to divorce

2011-02-09 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 02/09/2011 12:58:07 PM, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2011/2/9 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: Hi, I think  cups-1.4.6 and my HP printer via USB can't live in harmony. Often, it gets stuck. Then it tries to use feed 1 (manual feed) although I have configured cups to use

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 02/09/2011 12:56:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:38:37 +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Another way to do it is with find: find /home/mark/Builder -type f -iname '*csv' -exec cp {} ~mark/CorrelationTests \; Replace \; with + for a faster process, as Mark said there are

[gentoo-user] Re: FIXED:Re: [drm] loading RV710 Microcode fails

2011-02-09 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Do *not* install any firmware files and make sure you disable the radeon driver completely in the kernel. Not only KMS, but no driver *at all*. oops, I forgot to post the graphics section, for review: # Graphics support # CONFIG_AGP=y

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 09 2011, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:03:36 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: The postfix issue is separate and needs a glibc downgrade to fix. I am not sure I understand. I did the glibc upgrade and have not downgraded. I run postfix and my mail is coming and

Re: [gentoo-user] cups hplib - how to divorce

2011-02-09 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/2/9 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de: AFAIR it worked just fine with CUPS-1.3.x Then why don't you use stable cups? I do have CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y in my kernel configuration. New cups 1.4 can make use of the libusb package via the usb use flag. Without it uses the kernel USB

[gentoo-user] Install unstable package in stage4 catalyst?

2011-02-09 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi, I'm trying to create a stage4 spec file. Running the spec, sys-apps/net-tools-1.60-r13 doesn't compile. There is a bug about this. So I want to specify for catalyst to install a later version of this package. How can I do that? Regards, Kfir

[gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread James
Hello, So looking at the handbook, I was wondering why it does not describe how to use Disk Labels during the installation process. Dunno. So I poised this question on gentoo-doc and got this encouraging response from *JOSH* snip Some discussion on modifying the Gentoo Handbook to describe

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Dale
James wrote: Hello, So looking at the handbook, I was wondering why it does not describe how to use Disk Labels during the installation process. Dunno. So I poised this question on gentoo-doc and got this encouraging response from *JOSH* snip James Given that some folks on here have

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: James wrote: Hello, So looking at the handbook, I was wondering why it does not describe how to use Disk Labels during the installation process. Dunno. So I poised this question on gentoo-doc and got this encouraging

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: On 02/09/2011 12:56:09 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:38:37 +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote: Another way to do it is with find: find /home/mark/Builder -type f -iname '*csv' -exec cp {}

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Jarry
On 9. 2. 2011 15:16, Dale wrote: So looking at the handbook, I was wondering why it does not describe how to use Disk Labels during the installation process. Dunno. Given that some folks on here have ran into USB drives changing the order of partitions, I think this is a good idea. The same

[gentoo-user] Re: Bug#354229 Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread James
Jarry mr.jarry at gmail.com writes: So I agree there should be at least some basic info about disk-labels in the handbook. OK guys let's all chime on on the bug with ideas and verbiage, or we just need one really smart admin, to post some text and we're off to the races. Me, I still struggle

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:51:46 + (UTC), James wrote: These aren't needed to get a system up and running. Yeah, Ubuntu uses them for various ID purposes, but nothing really critical. Unless there's a clear need for them, for example if some package in the @system set will use them in a way

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bug#354229 Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Jarry mr.jarry at gmail.com writes: So I agree there should be at least some basic info about disk-labels in the handbook. OK guys let's all chime on on the bug with ideas and verbiage, or we just need one really smart admin, to post some text and we're

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:46:34 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: One thing I didn't make clear in my original post - it didn't seem important to confuse my real question which was the copy itself and not locating the files - but which likely changes how well some of these commands would work in my

Re: [gentoo-user] i586 stage3 tarball

2011-02-09 Thread Nils Holland
On 20:07 Tue 08 Feb , Mark Shields wrote: Interesting. Did you build this up from a stage1 or stage2 tarball? Hi Mark, actually, neither. ;-) I just took an existing stage3 tarball that I unpacked and chrooted into. I then changed the CHOST / CFLAGS and rebuild everything, finally tarring

Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:27 on Wednesday 09 February 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: James wrote: Hello, So looking at the handbook, I was wondering why it does not describe how to use Disk Labels during

Re: [gentoo-user] copy a bunch of files...

2011-02-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:46:34 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: One thing I didn't make clear in my original post - it didn't seem important to confuse my real question which was the copy itself and not locating the files - but

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Nils Holland
On 13:34 Mon 07 Feb , Neil Bothwick wrote: Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my desktop and home server and broke both. Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, glibc

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:23:50 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, glibc 2.13 krept onto my first machine Monday night - I generally test new versions of such far reaching stuff as glibc on a single machine first before letting to onto all of my

[gentoo-user] Re: Bug#354229 Disk Labels in Handbook

2011-02-09 Thread walt
On 02/09/2011 12:05 PM, Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: I'm a little confused about use of the term disk labels in this discussion. Isn't a disk label a fs level ID (I create those when I make my fs)? Using UUID in fstab for quite awhile here (due to multiple external drives), but those aren't disk

[gentoo-user] Re: glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread walt
On 02/09/2011 02:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:23:50 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, glibc 2.13 krept onto my first machine Monday night - I generally test new versions of such far reaching stuff as glibc on a single

Re: [gentoo-user] possible portage or ebuild bug?

2011-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:03 on Wednesday 09 February 2011, Alan McKinnon did opine thusly: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:41 on Monday 07 February 2011, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: On trying my last world update with --deep and --newuse, etc. I get the following

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:23 on Thursday 10 February 2011, Nils Holland did opine thusly: On 13:34 Mon 07 Feb , Neil Bothwick wrote: Don't install glibc-2.13 if you either use prelinking or run postfix. After testing it on my netbook, which uses neither, I installed it on my

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:48:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: And it's very difficult to downgrade it due to that hidden barf check in the ebuild. I have yet to find a supported, documented way to back out of glibc screw-ups; my way is to keep binpkgs of @system and use those. The trouble is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 15:34:59 -0800, walt wrote: On 02/09/2011 02:31 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:23:50 +0100, Nils Holland wrote: Thanks a lot, I've read your mail just in time. Actually, glibc 2.13 krept onto my first machine Monday night - I generally test new

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Philip Webb
110210 Alan McKinnon wrote: glibc is problematic, it's tentacles run very deep in any GNU system, it has a less than stellar history in terms of breaking gentoo systems, mostly due to inadequate testing before releasing to ~arch. it's v difficult to downgrade it due to that hidden barf check

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:05 on Thursday 10 February 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: Or maybe Alan, if he's done polishing his humility plugin :p What make you think he's got one... or even know what it is :) Yeah, come to think of it, what is that thing anyway? Must be

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:09:14 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: (1) I never use testing versions of system pkgs like Glibc Someone has to or they'll never get tested. (2) I have FEATURES=buildsyspkg in make.conf . It didn't help here. Beyond those, I'ld say Gentoo users are grown-ups who don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 02:05 on Thursday 10 February 2011, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: Or maybe Alan, if he's done polishing his humility plugin :p What make you think he's got one... or even know what it is :) Yeah, come to think of it,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Wed, 02/09, Dale wrote: === Now some of you know how much I hate windows. Of course, DOS wasn't much better, === Yep. I've been using Linux on my desktop since version 1.2, and UnixWare before that. Some Mac in there too. I avoid Windows like the plague that it is. -- Keith Dart --

Re: [gentoo-user] possible portage or ebuild bug?

2011-02-09 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 00:03 on Wednesday 09 February 2011, Alan McKinnon did opine thusly: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:41 on Monday 07 February 2011, cov...@ccs.covici.com did opine thusly: On trying my last world update

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc 2.13 warning

2011-02-09 Thread Philip Webb
110210 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 19:09:14 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: (1) I never use testing versions of system pkgs like Glibc Someone has to or they'll never get tested. Come on ! -- not on a production system ! (2) I have FEATURES=buildsyspkg in make.conf . It didn't