On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:31:40PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect?
Here's what I don't expect. I run a tight ship on my machine. I
currently have gnumeric and AbiWord and libreoffice-bin running uncer
icewm. In order to get
Hi, Renat.
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:32:25PM +0200, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 21:17:14 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Hi, Gentoo.
In Firefox 3.6.17, I would expect Page up/down to scroll ~a page up /
down, and for up/down arrow to scroll a small number of lines
James writes:
Anyone running pf-sources?
AMD64?
Yes! Since two hours after I read your posting, never heard before of pf-
sources or BFS before.
And they run great! My system was somewhat unresponsive, especially when
things like emerges were going on, video playback was stuttering,
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:00:03AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:31:40PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect?
Here's what I don't expect. I run a tight ship on my machine. I
currently have gnumeric and
On 05/25/2011 03:12 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:
[...] Now I have 8G, and
do not notice that much swapping any more. Although... right now, swap is
at 600M, and the system is swapping right now. Weird. I'm running rdiff-
backup, this seems to increase swap size. Maybe too much of the stuff it
Jeremy McSpadden deface at uberpenguin.net writes:
Make sure your client is set to auth before sending. Simple fix.
Been down that road can had conversations with ISP admins.
That's not the issue. The same email address works, if
I cut and past it into the To field of thunderbird.
All other
Nikos Chantziaras writes:
On 05/25/2011 03:12 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:
[...] Now I have 8G, and
do not notice that much swapping any more. Although... right now, swap
is at 600M, and the system is swapping right now. Weird. I'm running
rdiff- backup, this seems to increase swap size.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us
it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it?
If he was already using Qt4, it might not have seemed so bad. ;) I
think much of that list are from Qt4 and its
Hi there!
I still wonder why my KDE4 system starts swapping so early. Until a week
ago, I had 6G of RAM, but after a day of being logged in, I usually had some
swap usage. Sometimes this goes up to 1.5G, this is when the system becomes
way too slow and I log out.
Normally I don't mind having
* Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com [110524 18:02]:
On 05/24/2011 12:38 PM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Andy Wilkinsondrukar...@gmail.com [110524 12:24]:
I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without
accessing my computer remotely much, but perhaps since my last upgrade
Hello,
I am interested in usb support within virtualbox guests. The version I
am currently using does not offer it:
virtualbox-3.2.12-r4
would the bin package
virtualbox-bin- 3.2.12-r1
has it? Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
non-bin packages?
Thanks,
--
On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:53:26 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
non-bin packages?
Yes.
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We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
we created them. (Albert Einstein)
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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am interested in usb support within virtualbox guests. The version I
am currently using does not offer it:
virtualbox-3.2.12-r4
would the bin package
virtualbox-bin- 3.2.12-r1
has it? Is the usb
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:53:26 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
Is the usb support the main difference between the bin versus
non-bin packages?
Yes.
--
Neil Bothwick
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Hi there!
I still wonder why my KDE4 system starts swapping so early. Until a week
ago, I had 6G of RAM, but after a day of being logged in, I usually had some
swap usage. Sometimes this goes up to 1.5G, this is when
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com wrote:
For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us
it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it?
If he was already using Qt4, it might not have seemed so
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Valmor,
Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
HTH,
Mark
Mark,
I
Indi:
Last I tried it, you can't run much of that stuff without the
whole kdeinit thing, which is a giant resource hog (relatively
speaking, for those of us accustomed to running trim, fast, light
systems).
If i will try knode, i get this result:
Total: 69 packages (65 new, 2 in new slots,
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:20 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Alex Schuster
did opine thusly:
Oh, even weirder: The phone just rang, and five minutes later, swap has
gone to 860M. I was running rdiff-backup --list-increment-sizes, maybe
this uses much memory, and caches the stuff. Now the
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 16:20:58 Alex Schuster wrote:
So, 27 minutes to put 885MB of swap back into RAM, with the double amount of
that being free RAM. I monitored with iotop, and the transfer rate started
around 60-100 K/s, later it went higher. But the average transfer rate is
550K/s.
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:46 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us
it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it?
I used to use a few k apps in the 3 days, they were small and
easily integrated into the system. Now kde is
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 10:31:19 Paul Hartman wrote:
When I move the swap to a slow SD card instead (2MB/sec transfer
rate), even in that slow device, swapoff on the eMMC swap partition
with ~500M in-use takes about 2 or 3 minutes at most with the data
being swapped slowly into the SD card.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 06:40:01PM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote:
Indi:
Last I tried it, you can't run much of that stuff without the
whole kdeinit thing, which is a giant resource hog (relatively
speaking, for those of us accustomed to running trim, fast, light
systems).
If i will try
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 08:46:48 Indi wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:00:03AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:31:40PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote
No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect?
Here's what I don't expect. I run a tight
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:20:01PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
and have you ever heard of 'code reuse' or 'modularity'?
It seems - no.
Because KDE itself might be huge. But once loaded the apps are pretty small -
because they reuse code. kmail does not have its own html engine.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:20:01PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Oh - and you should spend some time on Alan's postings. He is not only a
certified OLD FART, he has some serious first hand, real world experience
that
makes most of the other OLD FARTs on this list look like noobs.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:10:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:46 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us
it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it?
I used to use a few k apps in the 3
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:51:25 Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:31:54 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:34 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Mick did
opine
thusly:
Anyway, tonight it failed right on the first package:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice / OpenOffice / Calligra recently ?
What do you think of them ? Which is stable / not yet fully finish ? ...
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On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 10:31:19 Paul Hartman wrote:
When I move the swap to a slow SD card instead (2MB/sec transfer
rate), even in that slow device, swapoff on the eMMC swap partition
with ~500M in-use
There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do
this problem.
Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have
connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections.
I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for
things like ssh
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:45:07 Harry Putnam wrote:
There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do
this problem.
Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have
connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections.
I've used static IPS
On 2011-05-25, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do
this problem.
Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have
connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections.
I've used static IPs
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu wrote:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice / OpenOffice / Calligra recently ?
What do you think of them ? Which is stable / not yet fully finish ? ...
They are both very mature and stable and should be able to do
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:53 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Volker Armin
Hemmann did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 16:20:58 Alex Schuster wrote:
So, 27 minutes to put 885MB of swap back into RAM, with the double amount
of that being free RAM. I monitored with iotop, and the
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:58 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Volker Armin
Hemmann did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 10:31:19 Paul Hartman wrote:
When I move the swap to a slow SD card instead (2MB/sec transfer
rate), even in that slow device, swapoff on the eMMC swap partition
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:13 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Volker Armin
Hemmann did opine thusly:
Oh - and you should spend some time on Alan's postings. He is not only a
certified OLD FART, he has some serious first hand, real world experience
that makes most of the other OLD FARTs on
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:01 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Mick did opine
thusly:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:51:25 Mick wrote:
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 21:31:54 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:34 on Tuesday 17 May 2011, Mick did
opine
thusly:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:07 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Paul Hartman
did opine thusly:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu
wrote:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice / OpenOffice / Calligra recently ?
What do you think of them ?
Le 25 mai à 21:54 Stéphane Guedon a écrit
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:45:07 Harry Putnam wrote:
There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do
this problem.
Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have
connected by way of DHCP. For example:
Hello,
I have eliminated hal long ago and noted recently in my group list that
I have a haldaemon group
haldaemon:x:104:haldaemon
and a user
haldaemon:x:102:104:added by portage for hal:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin
Should these have been eliminated or do I need to do it by hand or
something
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:
[...]
But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to
something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the
address?
The best thing to do is to use a DHCP server and DNS server that are
connected somehow.
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 22:07:15 Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu
wrote:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice / OpenOffice / Calligra recently ?
What do you think of them ? Which is stable / not yet fully finish ? ...
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:37 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Valmor de
Almeida did opine thusly:
Hello,
I have eliminated hal long ago and noted recently in my group list that
I have a haldaemon group
haldaemon:x:104:haldaemon
and a user
haldaemon:x:102:104:added by portage
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 22:20:00 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:07 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Paul
Hartman
did opine thusly:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu
wrote:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice /
Alan McKinnon writes:
That reminds me of how SSDs ought to be much faster than hard disks.
But every time I use my Acer netbook (8G SSD) I curse and swear and commit
random acts of violence - that first gen SSD controller is the worst possible
thing to ever hit computers. I swear the 4G
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote:
Should these have been eliminated or do I need to do it by hand or
something else still needs it?
I think you should do it by hand.
In general, you can assume portage will never delete any config files
or anything
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu wrote:
Openoffice is heavy whereas I think calligra light, thus, easier to update,
but
is calligra solid enough ?
KOffice is more than 10 years old, I think it is solid by now. :)
(Calligra = new name for KOffice,
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:28 on Wednesday 25 May 2011, Stéphane
Guedon did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 22:07:15 Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Guedon steph...@22decembre.eu
wrote:
Hello
Some of you tried both LibreOffice /
On Wed, 25 May 2011 22:11:24 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
But many days Neil and Paul can make me look like a blithering idiot :-)
Only with your help :P
--
Neil Bothwick
Why do programmers get Halloween and Christmas confused?
Because oct 31 is the same as dec 25.
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On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:45:07 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan?
Some kind of mapper tool?
Do you know the MAC address of the device? That's usually written on the
box somewhere, so you can usually examine the output of arp -n to
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:50:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
Is $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS set? Without it you will get errors like
this.
I have this in my .zshrc to set it on SSH logins.
[[ -n ${SSH_TTY} ]] export
On 05/25/2011 12:15 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Valmor,
Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
you need. It does seem to be in portage but I've not used it myself.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/25/2011 12:15 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
Valmor,
Take a look at the Extension Pack. It might give you more of what
you
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 16:20:58 Alex Schuster wrote:
So, 27 minutes to put 885MB of swap back into RAM, with the double amount of
that being free RAM. I monitored with iotop, and the transfer rate started
around 60-100 K/s, later it went higher. But the
Paul Hartman writes:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
I can't remember the last time my swap was used at all. I have 12G of
RAM, but in my prior system with 8G it was the same. Only in a rare
case when some program had run-away memory usage/memory
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Jeremy McSpadden deface at uberpenguin.net writes:
Make sure your client is set to auth before sending. Simple fix.
Been down that road can had conversations with ISP admins.
That's not the issue. The same email
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:
This gem is a couple of years old, but still a worthy read:
http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
Read it. Seriously.
Interesting. I'd like to also see KDE4 values :)
BTW, according to the author, the only real memory usage information
On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
[snip]
For the record.
Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
vbox (source).
All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
problem I am facing now is that the Windows7 virtual machine tries
On 05/25/2011 07:08 AM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com [110524 18:02]:
On 05/24/2011 12:38 PM, Todd Goodman wrote:
* Andy Wilkinsondrukar...@gmail.com [110524 12:24]:
I can't say for sure when this started, as I have gone a while without
accessing my computer
On 05/25/2011 04:46 PM, Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com
wrote:
Should these have been eliminated or do I need to do it by hand or
something else still needs it?
I think you should do it by hand.
In general, you can assume
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 07:13:41PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 08:46:48 Indi wrote:
and have you ever heard of 'code reuse' or 'modularity'?
It seems - no.
Because KDE itself might be huge. But once loaded the apps are pretty small -
because they reuse
On 05/25/2011 07:45 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
On 05/25/2011 06:14 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
[snip]
For the record.
Tried and it is very nice. The 4.0.6 version with extpack uses the GPL
vbox (source).
All usb devices on the gentoo host are visible on a Windows7 guest. The
problem I am
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