Re: [gentoo-user] How to read fan speed of my graphics card?

2012-02-25 Thread meino . cramer
Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com [12-02-25 08:48]: On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti (made by MSI) graphics card I need a way to read it in userland. I tried lm_sensors for this but

[gentoo-user] fstab entries for /proc and tmpfs

2012-02-25 Thread William Kenworthy
just building a new qemu appliance and following the handbook it mentions the /proc an tmpfs file systems in fstab, but the stage template no longer has these entries - is the handbook out of date and openrc handles it? - or did I accidentally delete them? Do I still need those entries ... that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Robert David
V Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:08:43 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com napsáno: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-25 Thread Adam Carter
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:13:07AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote The speed gains of building for specific submodels of CPUs might be there, but they're minimal.  Benchmarks have shown (can't find the article, it was on

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Dale
Carlos Sura wrote: On 24 February 2012 22:04, John irgu...@gmail.com mailto:irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, John irgu...@gmail.com mailto:irgu...@gmail.com wrote: snip Have a

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-sources menuconfig feature/weirdness

2012-02-25 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 9:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: 8snip That is true BUT the docs are for 100% certainty. Well, 99% at least. They almost always have the safest way to do anything but not necessarily the most used way.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-25 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 03:13:07AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote The speed gains of building for specific submodels of CPUs might be there, but they're minimal. Benchmarks have shown (can't find the article, it was on Phoronix) that after -march=i686 you get diminishing

Re: [gentoo-user] fstab entries for /proc and tmpfs

2012-02-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
just building a new qemu appliance and following the handbook it mentions the /proc an tmpfs file systems in fstab, but the stage template no longer has these entries - is the handbook out of date and openrc handles it? - or did I accidentally delete them? Do I still need those entries ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 05:34 -0600, Dale wrote: Carlos Sura wrote: On 24 February 2012 22:04, John irgu...@gmail.com mailto:irgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2012 21:12 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, John irgu...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [Solved] Linux Kernel 3.2.0 USB Mouse

2012-02-25 Thread Space Cakex
Finally it is working by enabling some HID_RAW parameter in the kernel config L: On 2012. február 22. 19:19:55, Michael Mol wrote: 2012/2/22 Space Cake spaceca...@gmail.com: Today I've tried to upgrade from 3.1.6 to 3.2.1. I did not change anything else only the options mentioned below

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Use emerge -f package_list to download into the distfiles directory files well ahead of when the emerge package_list will need them ... there is no need to waste time waiting for compilation to finish and letting the bandwidth go to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Mick
On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Sat 25 Feb 2012 05:48:49 PM IST, Mick wrote: On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 12:16 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Use emerge -f package_list to download into the distfiles directory files well ahead of when the emerge package_list will need them ... there is no need to waste time

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 05:34:25AM -0600, Dale wrote: There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else. -Theodore Roosevelt, 1915 Reminds me of the new P.C.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Francisco Ares
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 24. Februar 2012, 21:03:47 schrieb John: Hi folks, I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. no problem. I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult for

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Urs Schutz
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, ... that)? Is there a 'repository' of apps anywhere that I can go to to look and see if the app I normally use for something is there? ... http://packages.gentoo.org Urs

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Use emerge -f package_list to download into the distfiles directory files well ahead of when the emerge package_list will need them ... there is no need to waste time waiting for compilation to finish and

[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
(Hmm, GMane acting up again. Sorry if this shows up twice; I've sent this yesterday.) On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? Oh

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/02/12 13:43, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: In that case, the benchmarks are useless. From my personal experience... a fresh i686 install on a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU was not able to keep up with the slowest available speed on NHL Gamecenter Live. Ditto for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Feb 25, 2012 7:22 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 02:32:49 Pandu Poluan wrote: On Feb 25, 2012 9:14 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:10:10AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me. When does that ever work? Oh

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 20:33:26 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: Portage has done parallel downloads for years, it no longer waits for one package to finish installing before starting to download the next. It's controlled by FEATURES=parallel-fetch. A new one on me ... tkx, added it to my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-25 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 25/02/12 13:43, Dale wrote: Walter Dnes wrote: In that case, the benchmarks are useless. From my personal experience... a fresh i686 install on a 4 and 1/2 year old Dell with onboard Intel GPU was not able to keep up with the slowest available speed on NHL

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
I know I may be in the minority here but flash is coming no where near my computers, nor the ones I support (my mother etc.). I offer no solution to what about to do in 5 years when there's no more flash support on linux. But I'd like to take this opportunity to say: _I hope flash dies

[gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/02/12 16:04, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Nikos. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 04:10:10AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 25/02/12 04:00, Grant wrote: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked for

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: user can watch. Flash

[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread »Q«
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult for me.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Chris Brennan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:56:27 +0800 William Kenworthy William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au articulated: On Sat, 2012-02-25 at 05:34 -0600, Dale wrote: Carlos Sura wrote: On 24 February 2012 22:04, John irgu...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: How to read fan speed of my graphics card?

2012-02-25 Thread »Q«
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 09:05:30 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com [12-02-25 08:48]: On Saturday 25 Feb 2012 07:27:35 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, to supervise the speed of the two fans of my Nvidia GTX 560 Ti (made by MSI) graphics card I need a

[gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

2012-02-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hello everybody, since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. log in as user start konsole su - ping www.google.com hit ctrl-c su-session quit. user again, ping still running. Before I open a bug, has

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? Oh crap, you said remote system.  Somehow I missed that.  Ignore my previous post since obviously accessing Grub on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode.  There, you select an entry,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode.  There, you select an entry, press e and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Robert David
V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com napsáno: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen

Re: [gentoo-user] favorite smartctl test?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I'm trying to figure out how far gone an old Maxtor HD of mine is.  It does have S.M.A.R.T. support.  Is there a favorite smartctl command for making this determination?  'smartctl -a /dev/sda' says: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED and: ATA Error Count: 116 Is a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to text-only mode. There, you select an entry,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Feb 26, 2012 2:05 AM, Robert David robert.david.pub...@gmail.com wrote: V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com napsáno: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. Is there a safe way to do this? The fallback thing in grub has never worked

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox-10.0.1 fails to compile on x86

2012-02-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:30:21PM +1100, Adam Carter wrote Playing video is one of few situations in which optimisation makes a lot of difference though, thanks to the mmx/sse stuff, which is post i686. So a video benchmark will should show that up, but the boost may be lost in a more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Robert David
V Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:50:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info napsáno: On Feb 26, 2012 2:05 AM, Robert David robert.david.pub...@gmail.com wrote: V Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:32:20 -0800 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com napsáno: I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

2012-02-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. log in as user start konsole su - ping www.google.com hit ctrl-c su-session quit.

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie WY Wong wong...@member.ams.org writes: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:24:29PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 08:42:00PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: (a) using less, and have it take just 10 screen lines; (b) using cat etc., and have the

[gentoo-user] Re: dog - man's best friend.

2012-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: [...] (c) use less -F and less will automatically exit if the entire file can fit on one screen.  One can export LESS='-F' to have less always do the above. Maybe I'm seeing behavior that is not supposed to happen, but if I say echo '## ONE

Re: [gentoo-user] Konsole + zsh ctrl-c does not work anymore as expected

2012-02-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 25. Februar 2012, 21:08:50 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:54:06 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: since upgrading zsh to 4.3.17 I have a problem with Konsole 4.8.0. ctrl-c does not quit a running program. It ends su -/sux - sessions. log in as user start

[gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: On 2012-02-24

[gentoo-user] [OT] USB = SCSII adaptor ?

2012-02-25 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, is there any USB to SCSII adaptor known, which works with Linux ? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Best regards, mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] Invalid boot diskette what do I do?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
[snip] I'm amazed but disconnecting and reconnecting the IDE and power cable fixed it.  Which is your favorite tool for testing a HD's integrity with and without S.M.A.R.T. support? [I] gnome-extra/gsmartcontrol [1]     Available versions:  (~)0.8.6 {debug}     Installed versions:  

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me?

2012-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:03:47 -0600 John irgu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. I've got ADD in the extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and such) is just too difficult for me.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:50:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: So, as you can see, binary distros can still fuck up royal time. Not to mention that if you have an exotic configuration, support for your configuration might not be built into the kernel by the distro. Somehow I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ?

2012-02-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 00:32:33 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel?

2012-02-25 Thread Grant
I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system.  Is there a safe way to do this?  The fallback thing in grub has never worked for me.  When does that ever work? Oh crap, you said remote system.  Somehow I missed that.  Ignore my previous post since obviously accessing Grub on a