Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Aug 2013 23:03:13 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be installed. emerge -tp dev-vcs/git should show you what it pulling in which packages, then you can tweak your USE flags. It is quite possible, even likely, that this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Mick
On Saturday 03 Aug 2013 06:52:46 Harry Putnam wrote: I was off gentoo for a few mnths... apparently something has changed in the naming of the network devices. So far I've read several accounts of it... but the install handbook has apparently not been brought up to date. Doing a fresh

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:51:31 +0100, Mick wrote: Can someone point me to concise documentation about how this new setup is supposed to work? In /etc/conf.d/net you should replace the previously named eth0 directives to your new NIC name, e.g. instead of: config_eth0=dhcp you will

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: Again you're wilfully misinterpreting what I've said, and answering a completely different point. You didn't know the basics of how to go about approaching Gentoo. Stuff that practically every user knows, or can find out

[gentoo-user] Re: Any .config for vbox gentoo guest

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes: On 07/29/2013 06:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone post a .config for a 3.8.13 kernel that is known to work on a vbox install of gentoo as guest. Working on a fresh install but don't have gentoo running anywhere to rob a .config from. This one worked for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread pk
On 2013-08-03 14:28, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: While I (and others BTW) was trying to provide an external POV with points to make outside contributions and rectruitement more efficient, you guys @gentoo.org turned this thread into

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Saturday 03 Aug 2013 06:52:46 Harry Putnam wrote: I was off gentoo for a few mnths... apparently something has changed in the naming of the network devices. So far I've read several accounts of it... but the install handbook has apparently not been

[gentoo-user] Re: Where to find the straight dope conf.d/net?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:51:31 +0100, Mick wrote: Can someone point me to concise documentation about how this new setup is supposed to work? In /etc/conf.d/net you should replace the previously named eth0 directives to your new NIC name, e.g.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread hasufell
On 08/03/2013 02:28 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: you guys @gentoo.org turned this thread into plain bullshits. I have a lot of patience, but that does not help us and definitely not your case either. Please stop. People who are _really_ interested in contributing are welcome to contact me

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: On 03/08/13 06:03, Harry Putnam wrote: No doubt suffering from overdose of pilot error here but on a new (in progress) install of gentoo as guest in vbox. I ran the command emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Stroller
On 3 August 2013, at 04:03, Harry Putnam wrote: ... emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be installed. ... So I imagine I've done something thats causing that massive of a list of dependencies. I tried a few USE flags like -X and that did drop it down to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. Without USE=perl, you'll get a surprise if you try to `git add -i`.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Fri, 02 Aug 2013 20:22:09 -0400 schrieb Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: On 03/08/13 06:03, Harry Putnam wrote: No doubt suffering from overdose of pilot error here but on a new (in progress) install of gentoo as guest in vbox. I ran the

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendation for CPU type in QEMU?

2013-08-03 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:01 +0100 schrieb Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk: On 31/07/2013 12:31, Marc Joliet wrote: [snip] There's also -cpu host, which simply passes your CPU through to the guest. That's what I use for my 32 bit WinXP VM. You can use it if you don't mind not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Wang Xuerui
2013/8/3 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com: Hehe, alright, now we're talking that reduced dependancies to just 1 lonesome cpio. Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. IIRC you only have to do USE=-perl

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 03:20:27PM +0200, pk wrote: On 2013-08-03 14:28, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 08:34:11PM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: While I (and others BTW) was trying to provide an external POV with points to make outside contributions and rectruitement more

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: On 3 August 2013, at 04:03, Harry Putnam wrote: ... emerge -vp dev-vcs/git and come up with 194 pkgs that need to be installed. ... So I imagine I've done something thats causing that massive of a list of dependencies. I tried a few USE

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Wang Xuerui idontknw.w...@gmail.com writes: 2013/8/3 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com: Hehe, alright, now we're talking that reduced dependancies to just 1 lonesome cpio. Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com writes: On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. Without USE=perl, you'll get a surprise if you try to `git add -i`.

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/08/13 04:50, Harry Putnam wrote: [...] So, anyway, thinking I'll go with USE=-blksha1 -gpg -iconv -pcre -threads -webdav -cgi -cvs -doc -emacs -gnome-keyring -gtk -highlight -nls -ppcsha1 -subversion -test -tk -xinetd emerge -v dev-vcs/git Unless I hear something that would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/02/2013 09:38 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com writes: On 08/02/2013 08:22 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: Now, is it reasonable to install that way? Will I run into some horrible unsightly mess using git, when installed this way. Without USE=perl, you'll get

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: [...] Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled even for the usage I plan. You should of course put those USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use instead of setting them in the command-line, otherwise they won't be

[gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 03/08/13 06:20, Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: [...] Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled even for the usage I plan. You should of course put those USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use instead of setting them in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/08/13 06:20, Harry Putnam wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com writes: [...] Unless I hear something that would indicate it will be too crippled even for the usage I plan. You should of course put those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do I really need 194 pkgs to install git?

2013-08-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:18:28 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: acero ~ # du -sh /usr/share/doc 2.5G /usr/share/doc You will save much more space by using USE=-doc (or perhaps even adding /usr/share/doc to INSTALL_MASK), than by removing potentially useful functionality. USE=-doc will

[gentoo-user] How much effort from udev-197-r3 to 206

2013-08-03 Thread Harry Putnam
I see an update to udev come up when investigating installing various other pkgs. eix shows I'm on 197-r3 and the most recent is 206. Will that be a hefty amount of change... and concomittant amount of work? Or something a lazy slug can manage?

[gentoo-user] Re: usb printer disappears on cups upgrade

2013-08-03 Thread walt
On 08/02/2013 07:23 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a long running machine with a local epson usb printer using the kernel lpusb Using cups =1.5.2-r4 I can print ... upgrade to 1.6.2-r* and cups cant see the usb printer. The only errors in the cups log are to do with systemd service

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb printer disappears on cups upgrade

2013-08-03 Thread William Kenworthy
On 04/08/13 09:42, walt wrote: On 08/02/2013 07:23 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: I have a long running machine with a local epson usb printer using the kernel lpusb Using cups =1.5.2-r4 I can print ... upgrade to 1.6.2-r* and cups cant see the usb printer. The only errors in the cups log are

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said it many times, and i'll say it again: the only real different is USE=rule-generator and that's it and sys-fs/eudev is constantly out of date and haven't

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev removed, and Lennart Poettering wants udev on non-systemd systems dropped. Add those two

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-03 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 10:03:58AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote FUD again. The backwards compability is still all there and udev can be built standalone and ran standalone. For how long can it be built standalone? The following FUD brought to you courtesy of Kay Sievers...

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-08-03 Thread Steven J. Long
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: Steven J. Long wrote: Again you're wilfully misinterpreting what I've said, and answering a completely different point. You didn't know the basics of how to go about approaching Gentoo. While I (and others BTW) My point is simply this: there is a world of