Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

2014-11-25 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:15:38 PM James wrote: Hello, Ok the latest release of livedvd is here: https://www.gentoo.org/news/20140826-livedvd.xml So my understanding is you can put this on a usb stick. Run gentoo live, download packages, set flags, install packages and save

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:35:26 +1100, wraeth wrote: I just had a look through the man pages of emerge, portage and ebuild, plus at the Gentoo Devmanual and couldn't find anything; however I'm reasonably certain that in the context of an ebuild, a use flag defined as +flag means that it is

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:53:14 +0200, Gevisz wrote: Wouldn't it have been easier to use the simple configuration option to move the button back to where you expected it? Far less effort than switching distros. No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at

Re: [gentoo-user] Iron penguin on usb?

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 03:17:07 -0500, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: You can also make a multiboot USB (for most live CDs) like that, Just use syslinux as your bootloader, to install a new live CD (in a nutshell): 1. Create a FAT partition big enough to store the Live CD. If the CD has a volume

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/11/2014 09:15, Gevisz wrote: I even can agree with them that a new place of that button was logical, ergonomic and saved screen space. Only now, I have realized that, logically, it was possible to rearrange all the elements of Unity in such a way that it was logical, ergonomic, saved

Re: [gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Hi Alec, I've been having a really strange issue with net-print/cups-filters for the last few weeks, wondering whether or not it's a bug or I just have something configured wrong. Somehow ${S} is defined as: /var/tmp/portage/net-print/cups-filters-1.0.53/work/cups-filters-3.2.10 and

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 25 November 2014 11:45:50 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/11/2014 09:15, Gevisz wrote: I even can agree with them that a new place of that button was logical, ergonomic and saved screen space. Only now, I have realized that, logically, it was possible to rearrange all the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new thinkpad with Gentoo

2014-11-25 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, November 21, 2014 08:06:25 PM Peter Weilbacher wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014, thegeezer wrote: On 20/11/14 18:19, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: But I like that trackpoint yeah at first it's odd, but then when you start getting used to navigating without removing hands from

Re: [gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/25/2014 04:49 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Hi Alec, I've been having a really strange issue with net-print/cups-filters for the last few weeks, wondering whether or not it's a bug or I just have something configured wrong. Somehow ${S} is defined as:

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
You could check (before running emerge) if you see the 3.2.10 anywhere in your environment (set|less)... or if maybe $PV or $S is set outside emerge somewhere. Wow, incredible. I never thought to check my environment, but these: MODULE_VERSION=3.2.10

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what will happen should you not specify a preference, then what _does_ default mean? -- Grant Edwards

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:45:50 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 09:15, Gevisz wrote: I even can agree with them that a new place of that button was logical, ergonomic and saved screen space. Only now, I have realized that, logically, it was possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:41:10 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:53:14 +0200, Gevisz wrote: Wouldn't it have been easier to use the simple configuration option to move the button back to where you expected it? Far less effort than switching distros.

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:09:08 +0200, Gevisz wrote: It was possible, Google has hits on this dated from shortly after the time Unity was released. Please, give me the link. I will check if it is correct on my old Ubuntu 12.04 partition (yes, I still have it) and report the result here.

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:13:53 +0100 Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 24.11.2014 um 19:25 schrieb Gevisz: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left corner of the window in Unity of Ubuntu 12.04 while I used to look

Re: [gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/25/2014 10:41 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: You could check (before running emerge) if you see the 3.2.10 anywhere in your environment (set|less)... or if maybe $PV or $S is set outside emerge somewhere. Wow, incredible. I never thought to check my environment, but these:

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:37:48 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:09:08 +0200, Gevisz wrote: It was possible, Google has hits on this dated from shortly after the time Unity was released. Please, give me the link. I will check if it is correct on my

[gentoo-user] dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc

2014-11-25 Thread Joseph
I'm getting a message for: media-libs/phonon-vlc Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy media-libs/phonon-vlc has unmet requirements. - media-libs/phonon-vlc-0.7.2::gentoo USE=-debug -qt4 (-qt5)

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Maxim Wexler
No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window frame button and have argued that it is more ergonomic. There was not any possibility to

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:37:48 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:09:08 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I do recall that one way of doing it is with UbuntuTweak. Unity-tweak-tool cant move window buttons to the right in 14.04 as of September 3, 2014:

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:21:06 -0700 Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window frame

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc

2014-11-25 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/25/2014 01:13 PM, Joseph wrote: I'm getting a message for: media-libs/phonon-vlc Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy media-libs/phonon-vlc has unmet requirements. -

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc

2014-11-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:13:25AM -0700, Joseph wrote I'm getting a message for: media-libs/phonon-vlc Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy media-libs/phonon-vlc has unmet requirements. -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ?

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag 24 November 2014, 18:13:56 schrieb James: If you want java to prosper at Gentoo, it's gonna take an inner-circle gentoo-dev to at least cheerlead for java within gentoo, imho. I'm not really sure what this inner-circle stuff is supposed to mean. You need a gentoo-dev who is

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc

2014-11-25 Thread Joseph
On 11/25/14 14:04, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On 11/25/2014 01:13 PM, Joseph wrote: I'm getting a message for: media-libs/phonon-vlc Calculating dependencies / !!! Problem resolving dependencies for media-libs/phonon-vlc ... done! !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy media-libs/phonon-vlc has

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] cups-filters failing to build

2014-11-25 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag 25 November 2014, 12:56:00 schrieb Alec Ten Harmsel: I am just wondering, though, why aren't all internal variables prefixed with PORTAGE_ or the like to prevent this sort of thing? it's not really internal, just defined in an eclass... and these are regular environment

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:55:07 +0200, Gevisz wrote: Please, give me the link. I will check if it is correct on my old Ubuntu 12.04 partition (yes, I still have it) and report the result here. Why not Google it yourself? Because it is very hard to google a link if it does not exist.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/11/2014 18:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what will happen should you not specify a preference, then what

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/11/2014 19:03, Gevisz wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:45:50 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 09:15, Gevisz wrote: I even can agree with them that a new place of that button was logical, ergonomic and saved screen space. Only now, I have realized that,

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:56:05 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 19:03, Gevisz wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:45:50 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 09:15, Gevisz wrote: I even can agree with them that a new place of that

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:49:53 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:55:07 +0200, Gevisz wrote: Please, give me the link. I will check if it is correct on my old Ubuntu 12.04 partition (yes, I still have it) and report the result here. Why not

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window frame button and have argued that it

[gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-11-25, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/11/2014 18:35, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-11-23, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There is only the one that portage will happen to install should you not specify a preference. If default doesn't mean what

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:24:34 +0200, Gevisz wrote: Can you, please, help me? :) I did, I told you about UbuntuTweak, but here's a link http://bit.ly/1rpmTbK Yes, but this simply does not work. OK, so it doesn't work. The point was that it could be changed. I neither remember nor

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Emanuele Rusconi
On 25 November 2014 at 23:42, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: The point was that it could be changed. […] […] It's about as on-topic and relevant as WinXP. No, the point was that sometimes even a small annoyance is plenty enough to drive people away. The point was that when you feel

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:35:18 +0100, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: The point was that it could be changed. […] […] It's about as on-topic and relevant as WinXP. No, the point was that sometimes even a small annoyance is plenty enough to drive people away. Well, if you put it like that.

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:35:18 +0100 Emanuele Rusconi ema...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 November 2014 at 23:42, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: The point was that it could be changed. […] […] It's about as on-topic and relevant as WinXP. No, the point was that sometimes even a small

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:56:58 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 00:35:18 +0100, Emanuele Rusconi wrote: The point was that it could be changed. […] […] It's about as on-topic and relevant as WinXP. No, the point was that sometimes even a small

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Gevisz
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really *forced*

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

2014-11-25 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 25.11.2014 um 18:44 schrieb Gevisz: It usually took me from 10 to 20 minutes to download my daily updates in Ubuntu. For big packages - about 40 minutes or even more. That's the time saving aspect lol :) Not lol, it is like I told you. Binary distributions are a big, big time saver