Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke: WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf is missing

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/04/2015 11:51, Mick wrote: Are we meant to create the above file manually? This box is running sys-apps/portage-2.2.18 but I was surprised to see that it doesn't have a gentoo.conf file. Read the latest news item -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf is missing

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 08:50:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 25/04/2015 11:51, Mick wrote: Are we meant to create the above file manually? This box is running sys-apps/portage-2.2.18 but I was surprised to see that it doesn't have a gentoo.conf file. Read the latest news item I did read

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: x11-libs/libXfont-1.5.0 required by (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed) This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends on libXfont with this limitation: x11-libs/libXfont-1.5.0 You

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [15-04-26 09:44]: On 25/04/2015 18:07, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Master Emerge moved a little bit and spoke: WARNING: One or more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de [15-04-26 08:56]: meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world, and everything? Your mantra

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 01:51:37 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/25/2015 05:23 PM, Grant wrote: I read about this vulnerability in the 2015-04-06-apache-addhandler-addtype Gentoo news item. I don't think I'm using any functionality that could expose me to the problem but I'd like to be able

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-5.0 ?

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: Now that 5.1 is in Portage (masked), you should keep in mind that emerging it will result in the 5.1 libraries being used, even if you keep 4.9 (or 4.8) as the default compiler. If you should really get problems with this, you can manually remove the

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 04:06, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com [15-04-26 03:12]: On 04/25/2015 09:07 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Master Emerge moved a little bit and

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread walt
On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Gentoo. When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and more frequently, the error message (from You Tube): Your browser does not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:55:10 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Gentoo. When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips embedded in it. When I attempt

[gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and more frequently, the error message (from You Tube): Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 April 2015 15:49:19 Alan McKinnon wrote: I disagree. emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch. Right now it arrives at the conclusion (the top) and dumps it's data tree bottom-up, apparently stopping halfway and never getting to output what the top is.

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread walt
On 04/26/2015 06:49 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: I can't figure why the portage devs persist with the current obtuse method. I suspect that they do what they do because they're overworked and underpaid -- exactly like all the rest of us :) I suspect also that the problem with portage has already

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 10:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:35:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: x11-libs/libXfont-1.5.0 required by (x11-base/xorg-server-1.12.4-r4:0/1.12.4::gentoo, installed) This means that you have xorg-server-1.12.4-r4 installed which depends on libXfont with this

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/26/2015 12:38 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: There is nothing to get out of, and there is no circular dep. I didn't mean a true circular dep, more like you want this and it wants that, repeat. :-) Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread Alex Brandt
On Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:47:46 lee wrote: Hi, installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates yourself by running 'sa-update'. Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to root's crontab. As what user should I run it, and where do I put

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: A novice asks the master Emerge: Is there Zen also in every upgrade, which will serve to Gentoo? Did the novice ask the correct question about the life, the world, and everything? Your mantra should be emerge -NaDu @world (--with-bdeps=y in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: Have you masked newer xorg-server or are you using drivers which require this like e.g. ancient (now masked in portage) nvidia legacy drivers? In the latter case you are doomed... I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:55:10 -0700 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/26/2015 07:49 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Gentoo. When I read a blog in Firefox 31.6.0, there are often You Tube film clips embedded in it. When I attempt to view these, I am getting, more and more frequently,

[gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread lee
Hi, installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates yourself by running 'sa-update'. Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to root's crontab. As what user should I run it, and where do I put the crontab entry for it? -- Again we must be

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:49:09 + (UTC), Martin Vaeth wrote: nvidia legacy drivers? In the latter case you are doomed... I also had to throw out recently an nvidia card because of this. Was nouveau not an option. No. It seems, nouvau is lost without

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Martin Vaeth
meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: But the same script states: [I] x11-base/xorg-server Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally. If you remove that local mask, the blockers should be

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Alan, thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which blows fog into my pain suffering brain... ;))) For me it

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com [15-04-26 13:36]: On 26/04/2015 09:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Alan, thanks for your help! Good to know, that's not totally me not understanding, what's going on on my machine...but there are also the enigmatic words of Master Emerge, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Meino . Cramer
Martin Vaeth mar...@mvath.de [15-04-26 15:28]: meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: But the same script states: [I] x11-base/xorg-server Available versions: 1.12.4-r4(0/1.12.4) [m]1.15.2-r2(0/1.15.2) The [m] means that you masked newer versions of xorg-server locally.

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 05:48 PM, Mick wrote: When you say macro, is this something the webapp -U will apply, or is this some of your own brew of scripts and if so where do you apply it? Either www-apache/mod_macro with apache-2.2, or the built-in version with apache-2.4:

Re: [gentoo-user] Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Stroller
On Sun, 26 April 2015, at 3:49 pm, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: The following USE flags were used in my building of firefox 31.6.0: USE=bindist dbus jit minimal startup-notification -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -hardened (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux)

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 05:28 PM, Philip Webb wrote: More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. If they suck, they're not worth issuing, are they ? I'm not willing to become a dev, so I'll never know if I

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:28:47 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: More seriously, once you start working on (3), you'll realize that just because the error msgs suck doesn't mean you can make them better. If they suck, they're not worth issuing, are they ? Of course they are, obtuse error

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:03:30 PM »Q« wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:49:27 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: Alan, I think Firefox relies on gstreamer for at least some of its HTML5 playback capability, so USE=-gstreamer

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
150426 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote: Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong, (2) what their choices are, (3) how to resolve the problem. The process goes something like this: 1. Become frustrated with the obtuse portage output. 2.

[gentoo-user] Re: Half error message on attempting to access You Tube from Firefox

2015-04-26 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:49:27 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:23:53AM -0500, »Q« wrote: Alan, I think Firefox relies on gstreamer for at least some of its HTML5 playback capability, so USE=-gstreamer may be at the root of the issue. On the YouTube HTML5

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 03:17 PM, Philip Webb wrote: 150426 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch. I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening. +1 : Portage needs to

[gentoo-user] Re: And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread james
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes, I agree it needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening. One simple fix is this blockage of packages that do not need to be blocked. When I wait more than 5 or 6

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Apr 2015 18:14:32 Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 04/26/2015 04:04 AM, Mick wrote: Hmm ... I am probably affected by this change too. Running find for '*.php.*' et al, comes up with a tonne of files like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Grant
I read about this vulnerability in the 2015-04-06-apache-addhandler-addtype Gentoo news item. I don't think I'm using any functionality that could expose me to the problem but I'd like to be able to say so for sure. Does the fact that I'm up-to-date with GLSAs, I don't have PHP5 in

Re: [gentoo-user] how to update spamassassin with sa-update

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 10:55 AM, Alex Brandt wrote: On Sunday, April 26, 2015 13:47:46 lee wrote: Hi, installation notes for spamassassin say you need to do the rule updates yourself by running 'sa-update'. Now I'd do that with a crontab entry, and I don't want to add it to root's crontab. As what

Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 AddHandler/SetHandler vulnerability

2015-04-26 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/26/2015 04:04 AM, Mick wrote: Hmm ... I am probably affected by this change too. Running find for '*.php.*' et al, comes up with a tonne of files like this: /var/www/My_Website_Name/htdocs/modules/simpletest/tests/upgrade/drupal-7.filled.minimal.database.php.gz If I were to

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Running without -v doesn't help. I almost never use -v with emerge, it's output is verbose enough as it is and burying useful messages in even more trivial, not-for-users output makes decoding it even harder. emerge really needs

Re: [gentoo-user] And so the emerge spake: Let there be conflicts...and see, everything was chaos and sin...

2015-04-26 Thread Philip Webb
150426 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:49:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Emerge really needs to have it's output redesigned from scratch. I t needs a full overhaul of the way it communicates what is happening. +1 : Portage needs to tell users (1) more clearly what's gone wrong,