Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SCSII Adapter ?

2016-12-18 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 12/18/2016 10:28 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: taii...@gmx.com [16-12-19 03:57]: On 12/17/2016 11:31 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I searched for this on the Web and the only one I found, which is available, seems to be a Windows-only product (needs Windows

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:44 PM, lee wrote: > Jorge Almeida writes: > > > This works for me: > Nope. No change. > > Perhaps it has to do with a font not being available in the size needed > for the menu? > Maybe, but I'm out of ideas. > >> can't

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/12/2016 23:34, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon writes: > >> On 18/12/2016 18:47, lee wrote: >>> Rich Freeman writes: >>> The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox but not Pulseaudio is fairly small at this point. >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Jorge Almeida writes: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 02:48:28 -0800 Jorge Almeida wrote: >>> I tried Ctrl+click (any button) on an xterm window, to bring up the >>> menu (which I never used before; after

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 18/12/2016 18:47, lee wrote: >> Rich Freeman writes: >> >>> The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox but not >>> Pulseaudio is fairly small at this point. >> >> Pulseaudio eats away about 10% CPU without any

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Dutch Ingraham writes: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 05:47:39PM +0100, lee wrote: >> Rich Freeman writes: > >> Why can't they just say that they are making software for themselves the >> way they want it and don't care about what anyone else says or wants? > > Openbsd

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 02:39:58AM -0500, Tom H wrote > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one > > ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. Now the name > > varies in each

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 05:23:50PM -0800, Daniel Campbell (zlg) wrote > > On December 17, 2016 11:10:04 AM PST, Walter Dnes > wrote: > > A note; the developers have stated in the Pale Moon forum that they're > >working on getting rid of gstreamer, and having Pale Moon

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SCSII Adapter ?

2016-12-18 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 12/17/2016 11:31 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I searched for this on the Web and the only one I found, which is available, seems to be a Windows-only product (needs Windows drivers). May be someone on this list knows a solution: Is there any "something"-to-SCSII-adapter, which can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?) > > Or am I missing something? You are looking at the Pale Moon overlay. I did not know

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
By the way, I see I'm late (just downloaded new mail), but I've already written, and there is a piece of useful info below. On 161218-14:43+0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: > > > > On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] netstat security puzzle

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 10:55:14 J. Roeleveld wrote: > >I'll > >investigate Tom H's hint that the local router's dhcp server may be the > > > >culrpit. I seem to recall this PC had booted with a Knoppix CD some > >days ago, > >perhaps this was cached by the router. > > I think dhcpcd and co

Re: [gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 19:39:36 Alarig Le Lay wrote: > On Sun Dec 18 19:35:43 2016, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > On Sun Dec 18 18:23:22 2016, Mick wrote: > > > Another thing to try is unmount it, run fsck and then remount it as rw. > > > A > > > dirty unmount can cause this problem. > > > > It was

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161218-19:16+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > > > > No patches required to the source code for that. > Probably that means what it meant in some of the Mozilla pages... That's > not good. Because it means the SSL-key logging is enabled by default. And that's a security risk. > Was in

Re: [gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Sun Dec 18 19:35:43 2016, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > On Sun Dec 18 18:23:22 2016, Mick wrote: > > Another thing to try is unmount it, run fsck and then remount it as rw. A > > dirty unmount can cause this problem. > > It was dirty unmounted. This a flash card that is a / for a router at > home.

Re: [gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Alarig Le Lay
On Sun Dec 18 18:23:22 2016, Mick wrote: > Another thing to try is unmount it, run fsck and then remount it as rw. A > dirty unmount can cause this problem. It was dirty unmounted. This a flash card that is a / for a router at home. Its power supply suddenly stopped to work today. I will try

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 18/12/2016 18:47, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > >> The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox but not >> Pulseaudio is fairly small at this point. > > Pulseaudio eats away about 10% CPU without any benefit whatsoever, not > to mention that it makes things

Re: [gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 18:43:26 Alarig Le Lay wrote: > Hi, > > I try to mount an UFS partition with write support. > > So, I added the option to my kernel: > airmure linux # grep -i UFS /usr/src/linux/.config > # CONFIG_SCSI_UFSHCD is not set > CONFIG_UFS_FS=m > CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y > #

Re: [gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 18:43:26 Alarig Le Lay wrote: > Hi, > > I try to mount an UFS partition with write support. > > So, I added the option to my kernel: > airmure linux # grep -i UFS /usr/src/linux/.config > # CONFIG_SCSI_UFSHCD is not set > CONFIG_UFS_FS=m > CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y > #

Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 161218-02:04-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > > How come people are so little interested to read the traffic, to learn > > how sites behave which they visit, and often to discover what sites > > really do to them? > > > > I'll go and inquire at the Pale Moon forum about the issues above, and > >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote : > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long > > list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four > > blocks that portage couldn't

[gentoo-user] UFS write support

2016-12-18 Thread Alarig Le Lay
Hi, I try to mount an UFS partition with write support. So, I added the option to my kernel: airmure linux # grep -i UFS /usr/src/linux/.config # CONFIG_SCSI_UFSHCD is not set CONFIG_UFS_FS=m CONFIG_UFS_FS_WRITE=y # CONFIG_UFS_DEBUG is not set I’ve emerged sys-fs/ufsutils and I mounted my

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: >> >> The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the >> net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to be a font problem, >> which is essentially voodoo

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Dutch Ingraham
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 05:47:39PM +0100, lee wrote: > Rich Freeman writes: > Why can't they just say that they are making software for themselves the > way they want it and don't care about what anyone else says or wants? Openbsd and Archlinux will (do) say exectly that. If

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
Daniel Frey [16-12-18 17:48]: > On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > I did a 'eix palemoon' and it does not found anything. > > I did a 'eix | grep -i pale' and nothing appropiate matches... > > > > H... > > Try using emerge. If emerge works that means

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 12/18/2016 07:16 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> >> Thankfully the kernel seems to have sane management; as long as Linus is >> around, anyway. Just recently AMD had some of their code rejected, so >> with a vigilant-enough

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Rich Freeman writes: > The universe of Linux systems that are running Firefox but not > Pulseaudio is fairly small at this point. Pulseaudio eats away about 10% CPU without any benefit whatsoever, not to mention that it makes things more complex and less reliable. Why would

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I did a 'eix palemoon' and it does not found anything. > I did a 'eix | grep -i pale' and nothing appropiate matches... > > H... Try using emerge. If emerge works that means eix is not getting updated when layman adds overlays. Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Daniel Frey
On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the > net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to be a font problem, > which is essentially voodoo to me. xterm crashing instead of just > failing to bring up the menu seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
> A suggestion ... > > The wiki does mention that the "repos.conf" method requires a version of > layman greater than 2.0.0. > > Try the old method on the wiki to configure layman or use a > "package.accept_keyword" to raise the version of layman installed. > > I have used the "repos.conf"

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 02:48:28 -0800 Jorge Almeida wrote: >> I tried Ctrl+click (any button) on an xterm window, to bring up the >> menu (which I never used before; after reading a recent thread about X >> (in)security,

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
Corbin Bird [16-12-18 15:56]: > > On 12/18/2016 07:43 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: > >> On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I am trying to get layman working for me. > >>> I

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > > Thankfully the kernel seems to have sane management; as long as Linus is > around, anyway. Just recently AMD had some of their code rejected, so > with a vigilant-enough team, you can effectively protect your project >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
Peter Humphrey wrote : > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list of > kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks that > portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing versions with > emerge -C

[gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks that portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing versions with emerge -C and continued. Then kleopatra failed to build, as in

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
Mick [16-12-18 15:48]: > On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 14:43:09 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: > > > On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I am trying to get layman working for me.

Re: [gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 02:48:28 -0800 Jorge Almeida wrote: > I tried Ctrl+click (any button) on an xterm window, to bring up the > menu (which I never used before; after reading a recent thread about X > (in)security, I was trying to access the secure mode for password > entering). > > This crashes

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Corbin Bird
On 12/18/2016 07:43 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: >> On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am trying to get layman working for me. >>> I used the informations available here: >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 14:43:09 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: > > On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to get layman working for me. > > > I used the informations available here: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Kevin Monceaux writes: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> -> Updating weekly, as I used to do is a Good Idea, Agreed. > > Sounds like a good idea. I update anywhere from daily to a few times a > week. Every once in a while I loose track

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2016-12-08, Kevin Monceaux wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: >> >>> --> X11 would probably need to be shut down two which is equivalent to a >>> reboot on a desktop system anyway. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
Corbin Bird [16-12-18 14:28]: > > On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to get layman working for me. > > I used the informations available here: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Layman#repos.conf_method_.28default.29 > > and here:

Re: [gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Corbin Bird
On 12/18/2016 05:57 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to get layman working for me. > I used the informations available here: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Layman#repos.conf_method_.28default.29 > and here: > > So far so nice...I can add, fetch and delete repos. > > But

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Heiko Baums
Am 18.12.2016 um 05:44 schrieb Andrej Rode: > And why are you compiling your software on a low-power embedded > platform? I don't and I never said that. But compiling is more power consuming and takes quite a while, not only on embedded systems. Heiko Baums

[gentoo-user] Layman trouble

2016-12-18 Thread Meino . Cramer
Hi, I am trying to get layman working for me. I used the informations available here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Layman#repos.conf_method_.28default.29 and here: So far so nice...I can add, fetch and delete repos. But neither eix nor emerge do see that contents ... I cannot emerge anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage nonsense : this week's version

2016-12-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 18, 2016 10:46:24 AM GMT+01:00, Philip Webb wrote: >I want to see which pkgs might have updates available in 'testing', >so I enter, where 'emergeu' = 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge' >(I do this every week, usually without any serious problem : >please don't

Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] netstat security puzzle

2016-12-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 18, 2016 9:32:25 AM GMT+01:00, Mick wrote: >On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 08:09:06 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On December 18, 2016 8:26:40 AM GMT+01:00, Mick > >wrote: >> >On Friday 16 Dec 2016 19:19:11 Poison BL. wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec

[gentoo-user] xterm menu

2016-12-18 Thread Jorge Almeida
I tried Ctrl+click (any button) on an xterm window, to bring up the menu (which I never used before; after reading a recent thread about X (in)security, I was trying to access the secure mode for password entering). This crashes xterm. The logs: Warning: Cannot convert string

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Andrej Rode
> A business's direction of that employee can create ripples > throughout the rest of the libre software ecosystem that other projects > may have to work around or be forced to depend on the corporate work to > continue existing. Innocent enough at first, sure. Projects become > obsolete or have

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage nonsense : this week's version

2016-12-18 Thread Andrej Rode
Hi, > (dependency required by "app-crypt/gnupg-2.1.16::gentoo" [ebuild]) > (dependency required by "kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.27::gentoo" [ebuild]) > (dependency required by "kde-base/katepart-4.14.3::gentoo" [installed]) > > -- return to my observations -- > > I've listed 'qt5' among my USE

[gentoo-user] Portage nonsense : this week's version

2016-12-18 Thread Philip Webb
I want to see which pkgs might have updates available in 'testing', so I enter, where 'emergeu' = 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge' (I do this every week, usually without any serious problem : please don't reply "Thou mayest not mix 'stable' with 'testing' : thou mayest iff thou ist careful to

[gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Martin Vaeth
Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Martin Vaeth, I think he works with the ebuilds of Pale moon No, I don't. I had just reported a few bugs (and suggested some workarounds).

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Marc Joliet
On Saturday 17 December 2016 20:21:33 Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 09:51:07PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote > > > On Saturday 17 December 2016 14:10:04 Walter Dnes wrote: > > > A note; the developers have stated in the Pale Moon forum that they're > > > > > > working on getting rid

Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] netstat security puzzle

2016-12-18 Thread Mick
On Sunday 18 Dec 2016 08:09:06 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 18, 2016 8:26:40 AM GMT+01:00, Mick wrote: > >On Friday 16 Dec 2016 19:19:11 Poison BL. wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Mick > > > >wrote: > >> > I am looking at a

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-18 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 12/17/2016 11:45 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 12/17/2016 12:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:55:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Again, the average home user is being jerked around for a

Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] netstat security puzzle

2016-12-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 18, 2016 8:26:40 AM GMT+01:00, Mick wrote: >On Friday 16 Dec 2016 19:19:11 Poison BL. wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 7:14 PM, Mick >wrote: >> > I am looking at a Mint 18 installation and noticed when running >netstat >> > that