Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread András Csányi
On 7 August 2013 02:38, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I always have a fallback plan. I spend I few weeks for Unity

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 11:15, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I always have

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE user switching to systemd? I've seen the arguments for and

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 13:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. This would be a _very_ good post to end this thread upon. Too bad there's not an

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread hasufell
On 08/09/2013 02:25 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. This would be a _very_ good post to

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Henry W. Peters
On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. Do not really wish to

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 05:25, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: that's only because gnome 3.8 hasn't been stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether in

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-07 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Aug 07 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 07/08/13 05:25, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: that's only because gnome 3.8 hasn't been stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct

[gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread walt
I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big remodeling? With most of your living/working space

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/08/13 03:38, walt wrote: I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big remodeling? With most of

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-06 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Aug 06 2013, Samuli Suominen wrote: that's only because gnome 3.8 hasn't been stabilized yet. as in, there are no plans in keeping gnome 2.x available after gnome 3.8 stabilization. Am I correct in believing that gnome-3.8 (whether in testing as now, or stable later) requires