Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-06-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 17:02:18 Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:36:59 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 May 2015 01:39:34 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: ---8 Have a look here for more details and warnings:

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 May 2015 13:18:06 Mick wrote: You could look into ~/Mail/ or wherever you keep your mails and find the Inbox directory. Then copy any messages you want shown there manually. The index will be recreated when you restart Kmail, or if you click on 'Recreate Index' under the

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 May 2015 15:01:10 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 31 May 2015 13:18:06 Mick wrote: You could look into ~/Mail/ or wherever you keep your mails and find the Inbox directory. Then copy any messages you want shown there manually. The index will be recreated when you restart

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: ---8 Have a look here for more details and warnings: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick -

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 17:54, Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0)

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 00:20:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: He was talking about tying the e-mail client to a database, not about the KDE4 desktop, and I've protested at the same thing more than once, sometimes in vigorous terms. Made no difference of course, but then I'm just an insufficiently

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 May 2015 00:20:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: Other than the odd bug here and there I was perfectly happy with KDE3 and Kmail1 (still using with kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.11.1-r1). I wonder if there's a way to go back to KMail-1 and import all my e-mails from KMail-2 archive files

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 09:53:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: Akonadi was supposed to be a once-size-fits-all central store of all pim info (contacts, addresses, mails and all metadata about that) which any and all apps could use. The vision was that an enormous awesome ecosystem all buying into

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: ---8 Have a look here for more details and warnings: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick - that's very helpful. I expect that sooner or later bitrot will

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 May 2015 01:10:52 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Just keep in mind that the UUID that goes into mdadm.conf might not be the same UUID returned by blkid. I'm honestly not certain either way. You can get the mdadm ID from mdadm --detail --scan. Good grief! When is a UUID not a

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 11:13:22 Stephan Müller wrote: Am 28.05.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Peter Humphrey: (It would have been nice to sort on the final field but I can't see how to do that.) For example like this: $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | awk '{print $11, $9}' | sort That's something

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Stephan Müller
Am 28.05.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Peter Humphrey: 1bb4ba53-677a-4a0e-b737-f3e274f0e71e - ../../sda2 1e20e3e6-e218-485b-b5ff-be85a287e364 - ../../sda3 3a2a6e94-a6f0-4479-ae87-44887946148c - ../../sda6 3befff76-2a0e-49fa-9e6f-2bd0ed73cf31 - ../../md5 43e655ca-a6ef-4931-99b6-3aa2ad6c30cb -

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0) was not being started. [1] Whenever I've had KMail screw up I've created a new

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0) was not being started. [1] Whenever I've had

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0) was not being started.

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata 1.0) was not being started. [1] Whenever I've had KMail screw up I've created a new user and

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:36:59 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:54:33 Mick wrote: On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: What in god's name is that stupid database for anyway? Does it perform any useful function? Is there any tool that gives the user any measurable benefit that even justifies one one hundredth of the

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2015 15:36:04 I wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: With an approach like yours, mdadm will attempt to create md1 by looking ONLY at sda1 and sdb1, and if that pair forms a

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 19:51:24 Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: I've found blkid, which tells me the UUIDs of my various devices, thus: # blkid /dev/md7 /dev/md7: UUID=ycGMf9-hEP2-tjT4-AtkJ-n8RI-pZ44-RqvlEY

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: My mdadm.conf is now this: DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]1 DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]5 DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]7 ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 ARRAY /dev/md5 devices=/dev/sda5,/dev/sdb5 ARRAY /dev/md7

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Todd Goodman
* Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org [150528 08:45]: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: [..SNIP..] UUIDs are often preferable in these kinds of configurations, because you're less likely to run into duplicate identifiers, they don't change, and so on. If I

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: My mdadm.conf is now this: DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]1 DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]5 DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]7 ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 ARRAY /dev/md5

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 15:36:04 I wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: With an approach like yours, mdadm will attempt to create md1 by looking ONLY at sda1 and sdb1, and if that pair forms a valid array it is started, and if not it is not. If you add a new drive to

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/05/2015 14:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk mailto:pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello list, Hi. Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/05/2015 14:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk mailto:pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello list, Hi. Over the last few weeks I've

[gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. The first thing was that my screen saver was being overlaid with a plain default desktop. That was fixed by creating a new user for myself and

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello list, Hi. Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. I have no idea what your problem can be. But as a friendly

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. Just to clarify, is /usr on a separate filesystem, or the same as /? I don't think that is your problem in any case, but it might be relevant. ... bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. Just to clarify, is /usr on a separate filesystem, or the same as /? I don't think that is your

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. Just to clarify, is /usr on a

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 21:40:37 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: I suspect that an initramfs might help you out, assuming the filesystems on that RAID are useful in early boot. However, openrc

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 I wrote: Since writing, I've found that my fonts have all changed as well. Yet more clarity: fonts have not been affected in applications that control their own fonts - KMail, Firefox... - but system functions and boinc-mgr (which uses whatever fonts are