Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-21 Thread Kostya Sha
Try `env-update source /etc/profile`.

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 03:47:12 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:07:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Don't read my post as literally meaning they must type the 7 characters sudo su. Read it more as use any feature of sudo you feel like to get a root shell, but you must use sudo. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:08:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: We just log the fact of running sudo. The admins are trusted to not cock things up, and if they do, to not try and hide it. The philosophy is simple - if we feel we can't trust you, we would not have hired you. That is sensible, if not

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-01 Thread Mick
On Monday 01 March 2010 10:11:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:08:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: We just log the fact of running sudo. The admins are trusted to not cock things up, and if they do, to not try and hide it. The philosophy is simple - if we feel we can't trust you,

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-03-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 02 March 2010 08:33:07 Mick wrote: On Monday 01 March 2010 10:11:18 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:08:22 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: We just log the fact of running sudo. The admins are trusted to not cock things up, and if they do, to not try and hide it. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Dan Johansson
On Sunday 28 February 2010 04.57:36 ubiquitous1980 wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su. Wondering what is going on. Thanks. And I

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread pk
ubiquitous1980 wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su. Wondering what is going on. Thanks. Q: Have you tried ... su - (the dash is

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread ubiquitous1980
pk wrote: ubiquitous1980 wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su. Wondering what is going on. Thanks. Q: Have you tried ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread pk
ubiquitous1980 wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html With sudo su - the man pages do not have ESC throughout. I have learned sudo su from my ubuntu days and I am only guessing that this is bad practice and that the correct command is $ sudo su - No need to

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread ubiquitous1980
pk wrote: ubiquitous1980 wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html With sudo su - the man pages do not have ESC throughout. I have learned sudo su from my ubuntu days and I am only guessing that this is bad practice and that the correct command

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread ubiquitous1980
pk wrote: ubiquitous1980 wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html With sudo su - the man pages do not have ESC throughout. I have learned sudo su from my ubuntu days and I am only guessing that this is bad practice and that the correct command

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread stosss
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: ubiquitous1980 wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html With sudo su - the man pages do not have ESC throughout.  I have learned sudo su from my ubuntu days and I am only guessing that this is bad

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 03:56:13PM -0500, stosss wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:28 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: ubiquitous1980 wrote: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2006/07/msg00059.html With sudo su - the man pages do not have ESC throughout. ?I have learned sudo su

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:16:14AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: sudo su and su have a fundamental difference, vital in corporate networks: The former uses the user's password for authentication and sudoers for authorization. The latter uses knowledge of the root password for authorization

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 28 February 2010 23:27:57 William Hubbs wrote: 7 years ago a veteran Linux user taught me to always use su - for the very reason you stated. Actually, you are safe with either su - (without sudo) or sudo -i. sudo su - is chaining su - on top of sudo, and is redundant because

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 01 March 2010 00:57:17 William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 12:16:14AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: sudo su and su have a fundamental difference, vital in corporate networks: The former uses the user's password for authentication and sudoers for authorization. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 01:07:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Don't read my post as literally meaning they must type the 7 characters sudo su. Read it more as use any feature of sudo you feel like to get a root shell, but you must use sudo. As opposed to using su alone. The problem with this in

[gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-27 Thread ubiquitous1980
If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su. Wondering what is going on. Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-27 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC.  This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su.  Wondering what is going

Re: [gentoo-user] Manual pages (man pages) have ESC all through them when having used sudo.

2010-02-27 Thread ubiquitous1980
Dan Cowsill wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, ubiquitous1980 nixuser1...@gmail.com wrote: If I have logged in through sudo such as $ sudo su, when I then use man pages, they are covered in ESC. This does not occur when using normal user accounts or the root account through su.