Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:03:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: So I think setting it in xorg.conf is easier, but at least it is not absolutely required

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:03:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: So I think setting it in xorg.conf is easier, but at

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:03:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: So I think setting it in xorg.conf is easier, but at

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Since the new xorg-server was a complete flop here, when will this devicekit option be coming? Please tell me it will be easier that hal is. It (xorg+hal/fdi config) has worked fine for me since day 1 (and continues to work),

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 15 May 2009 18:42:10 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:03:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: So I think setting it in

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Since the new xorg-server was a complete flop here, when will this devicekit option be coming? Please tell me it will be easier that hal is. It (xorg+hal/fdi config) has worked

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Since the new xorg-server was a complete flop here, when will this devicekit option be coming? Please tell me it will be easier that hal is. It (xorg+hal/fdi config) has worked fine for me since

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:42:10 Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 15 May 2009 18:03:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote: DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a mess, and it's design is a mish- mash of stuff throwwn together. At

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a mess, and it's design is a mish-

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Aaron Clark
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if at all. The problem with hal is that it's code base is a mess, and

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-05-15 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 15 Mai 2009, pk wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: DeviceKit isn't even in portage yet and not many packages support it. I don't even know if the devs will change and improve the configs much, if at

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: but now you can skip the FDI unless you have some customized configuration customized like a german layout with a german keyboard.. I wasn't the first nor

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: but now you can skip the FDI unless you have some customized configuration customized like a german

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mittwoch 08 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: but now you can skip

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-08 Thread pk
sean wrote: I agree, right now it is a step backward. A nasty one. But if there were some sort of repository that you could just download a config, or it automatically fetches, then that would be an improvement. If the repository was setup for example like the Gentoo-Portage.com site

[gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think); i.e. the # symbol is not next to the return key, but at Shift+3. How can I change it back to UK? I

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think);

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Khanh Nguyen
** (Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 09:39:45AM +0100) Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think); i.e. the # symbol is not next to the

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 09:46:45 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think); i.e. the # symbol is not next to the return key, but at Shift+3. How can I change it back to UK? I did it in KDE, but that's no help

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 10:39:45 Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think); i.e. the # symbol is not next to the return key, but

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009 10:39:45 Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think);

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: Hi All, I've emerged the new xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, removed my xorg.conf as advised and noticed two things which I am not sure how to fix: My keyboard layout is no longer UK, but US (I think); i.e. the # symbol is not next to the return key, but at

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Down the bottom under section 3: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.x ml emm. No. There is nothing about removing

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread sean
Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a device? It seems that would make things easier for all, since many people likely use the same devices in exactly or closely similar ways? I have to get my trackball working again the way I had before the upgrade.

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a device? It seems that would make things easier for all, since many people likely use the same devices in exactly or closely similar ways? I have to get

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a device? It seems that would make things easier for all, since many people likely use the same devices

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Joseph
On 04/07/09 17:22, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: which pretty much makes hal a bad idea. 'use hal so you don't have to edit files' and then have to edit hal's convoluted xml files instead of the simple, easy to read xorg.conf ... I'll second it, why complicate simple design; going from text

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a device? It seems

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:52:11 -0600, Joseph wrote: I'll second it, why complicate simple design; going from text file configuration to xml :-( Did anybody managed going back to xorg-server-1.3 You don't need to, 1.5 will quite happily use an xorg.conf file. It may not need one in many cases,

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a device? It seems that would make things easier

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:14 AM, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: Is there a repository somewhere that you can download fdi files for a

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Mick (michaelkintz...@gmail.com) [07.04.09 18:46]: However, I have failed to: 3. Effect a left click when I tap on the synaptics pad. 4. Double click on the synaptics pad. Just a double check: you did recompile the synaptics driver from xorg? Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Sebastian Günther wrote: * Mick (michaelkintz...@gmail.com) [07.04.09 18:46]: However, I have failed to: 3. Effect a left click when I tap on the synaptics pad. 4. Double click on the synaptics pad. Just a double check: you did recompile the synaptics driver

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Mick wrote: However, I have failed to: 3. Effect a left click when I tap on the synaptics pad. 4. Double click on the synaptics pad. 5. Press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart xorg Can you please help?

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread sean
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: just do the stuff in xorg.conf and hal's 'settings' should be ignored. My xorg.conf is being ignored for my trackball settings. Is there something that needs to be added somewhere for the conf file to be read?

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, sean wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: just do the stuff in xorg.conf and hal's 'settings' should be ignored. My xorg.conf is being ignored for my trackball settings. Is there something that needs to be added somewhere for the conf file to be read? you could tell

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Barkalow
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Mick wrote: I have managed to: 1. Set gb as the default keyboard and used the /use-multiple-layouts-with-kbd.fdi.bz2 with some mods to be able to switch languages as before. 2. Set up the synaptics driver so that it performs a right area - vertical scroll.

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread sean
Joseph wrote: On 04/07/09 17:22, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: which pretty much makes hal a bad idea. 'use hal so you don't have to edit files' and then have to edit hal's convoluted xml files instead of the simple, easy to read xorg.conf ... I'll second it, why complicate simple design;

Re: [gentoo-user] New xorg.conf with x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Daniel Barkalow wrote: On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Mick wrote: merge key=input.x11_options.TapButton1 type=stringtrue/merge Looks from the forum thread like the value of TapButton1 should be a button number, not a boolean. Someone reported success with: