Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:19:08AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >>> Something to look into before going the traditional raid/nfs route: >>> moosefs or lizardfs.  I am using arm based odroid HC2's and over the >>> softraid based nfs I was using there are considerable power

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-25 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:38:33AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > >> My router also has two USB plugs for sharing external hard drives or USB >> sticks.  I'm not talking about that because I don't like hooking a drive >> up over USB.  It never works well for some reason. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-24 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 10:38:33AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > My router also has two USB plugs for sharing external hard drives or USB > sticks.  I'm not talking about that because I don't like hooking a drive > up over USB.  It never works well for some reason.  According to the > link below, I hook

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-24 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 21/12/2020 12:53, Dale wrote: Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is it true that I can hook a NAS to the router? > > I think my router has 4 yellow and 1

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread antlists
On 21/12/2020 12:53, Dale wrote: Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is it true that I can hook a NAS to the router? I think my router has 4 yellow and 1 red port. The yellow ports are, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:20:28PM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> Howdy, >> >> Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my >> router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is >> it true that I can hook a NAS to the router? > Maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:19:08AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > Something to look into before going the traditional raid/nfs route: > > moosefs or lizardfs.  I am using arm based odroid HC2's and over the > > softraid based nfs I was using there are considerable power savings > > (especially if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 06:20:28PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > > Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my > router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is > it true that I can hook a NAS to the router? Maybe they meant that the router itself

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-21 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > On 21/12/20 8:20 am, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my >> router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is >> it true that I can hook a NAS to the router?  I'd assume it can be >> shared

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On 21/12/20 8:20 am, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my > router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is > it true that I can hook a NAS to the router?  I'd assume it can be > shared with anything connected to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread antlists
On 20/12/2020 13:20, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: There is a saying in German tech culture: "Entweder sie geht oder sie geht nicht." (either it works or it doesn't). The pun is on the pronunciation of "sie geht" (it works), which sounds exactly like Seagate. → "Either Seagate or Seagate... not."

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread Dale
Howdy, Somewhat related.  I googled and it appears I can hook a NAS to my router and share it there.  The router is 1GB, it has yellow ports.  Is it true that I can hook a NAS to the router?  I'd assume it can be shared with anything connected to the router, even my cell phone if needed.  Also,

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:01:21PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > >> I just found a IBM ServeRaid M1015 card for like $40.00 shipping and >> all.  It claims this:  "Connects to up to 16 SAS or SATA drives".  Given >> the number of drives and the price, that's good bang for

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:01:21PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > If you just want to use it as a file server, think of removing the video > > card. This will save considerable power. > > It would be a good idea but it's a built in mobo video system.  If it > was a card, I'd likely do just that for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 6:21 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > There is a saying in German tech culture: "Entweder sie geht oder sie geht > nicht." (either it works or it doesn't). The pun is on the pronunciation of > "sie geht" (it works), which sounds exactly like Seagate. → "Either Seagate > or

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:03:14AM + schrieb antlists: > On 20/12/2020 01:06, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Looking at 4 TB WD drives as an example, the cheapest > > SAS drive started at 145 €, but a WD RED NAS drive (intended for > > uninterrupted operation) at 93 €. > > BEWARE OF WD REDS

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-20 Thread antlists
On 20/12/2020 01:06, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Looking at 4 TB WD drives as an example, the cheapest SAS drive started at 145 €, but a WD RED NAS drive (intended for uninterrupted operation) at 93 €. BEWARE OF WD REDS !!! They *U*S*E*D* to have a good reputation. They are STILL marketed as

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 07:02:23AM -0600 schrieb Dale: >> Howdy, >> >> A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig >> despite its age. > It may be adequate enough for demanding desktop tasks, but you want it to > sit around 24/7 and serve

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 07:02:23AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > > A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig > despite its age. It may be adequate enough for demanding desktop tasks, but you want it to sit around 24/7 and serve files. To me, that looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:54:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > Naming them based on hostname is also a good idea.  I don't have mine named that way but if I ever redo them, I will.  It could save me some problems down the road.  >>> Renaming them now is trivial, man

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/12/20 21:31, David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, antlists wrote: >> On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote: >>> -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA >>> ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug >>> almost like

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:54:58 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Naming them based on hostname is also a good idea.  I don't have mine > >> named that way but if I ever redo them, I will.  It could save me > >> some problems down the road.  > > Renaming them now is trivial, man vgrename. Doing it after the

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, antlists wrote: >On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote: >> -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA >> ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug >> almost like USB but full SATA feature set and speed (e.g.

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 18:49, David Haller wrote: -dnh, the MoBo though is quite a fine piece with 8 SATA + 2 eSATA ports onboard:) I'm gonna miss eSATA in newer HW:( Hot-plug almost like USB but full SATA feature set and speed (e.g. SMART). Buy add-in sata cards. The ones I've been looking

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 19/12/2020 17:32, Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:02:23 -0600, Dale wrote: >>> I have another question related to LVM.  Let's say a system crashes and dies.  Or I just move a drive, or drives, with LVM on it to another system. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, antlists wrote: >On 19/12/2020 16:51, David Haller wrote: >> Beware: I use a lot of disks and I tried running it with then 8 (or 9? >> or 10? Lots!) HDDs with a 500W (or even 550W) PSU. System wouldn't >> reliably boot up. Replaced with a 650W PSU and it's running

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 17:32, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:02:23 -0600, Dale wrote: I have another question related to LVM.  Let's say a system crashes and dies.  Or I just move a drive, or drives, with LVM on it to another system.  Does the system just recognize the drives

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread antlists
On 19/12/2020 16:51, David Haller wrote: The power supply was replaced a few years ago.  I may buy a new one that is a little bit larger. It has a 300 watt now, a 400 watt would give some breathing room for start up power for the extra drives.  I haven't measured the wattage it pulls now.  May

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:32:21 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Naming them based on hostname is also a good idea.  I don't have mine >> named that way but if I ever redo them, I will.  It could save me some >> problems down the road.  > Renaming them now is trivial, man vgrename.

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:32:21 -0600, Dale wrote: > Naming them based on hostname is also a good idea.  I don't have mine > named that way but if I ever redo them, I will.  It could save me some > problems down the road.  Renaming them now is trivial, man vgrename. Doing it after the system has

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:02:23 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I have another question related to LVM.  Let's say a system crashes and >> dies.  Or I just move a drive, or drives, with LVM on it to another >> system.  Does the system just recognize the drives and knows how to add >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Dale wrote: >> A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig >> despite its age.  Some specs for those interested but may not matter in >> the end.  TL;DR, skip to next paragraph.  It's a Dell Inspiron 546.  AMD >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:02:23 -0600, Dale wrote: > I have another question related to LVM.  Let's say a system crashes and > dies.  Or I just move a drive, or drives, with LVM on it to another > system.  Does the system just recognize the drives and knows how to add > them or do I have to do that

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread David Haller
Hello, On Sat, 19 Dec 2020, Dale wrote: >A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig >despite its age.  Some specs for those interested but may not matter in >the end.  TL;DR, skip to next paragraph.  It's a Dell Inspiron 546.  AMD >9750 quad core CPU running at

Re: [gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread bobwxc
在 2020/12/19 下午9:02, Dale 写道: Howdy, A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig despite its age.  Some specs for those interested but may not matter in the end.  TL;DR, skip to next paragraph.  It's a Dell Inspiron 546.  AMD 9750 quad core CPU running at 2.4GHz. 

[gentoo-user] Rearranging hard drives and data.

2020-12-19 Thread Dale
Howdy, A friend donated a older PC to me the other day.  It's a fairly nice rig despite its age.  Some specs for those interested but may not matter in the end.  TL;DR, skip to next paragraph.  It's a Dell Inspiron 546.  AMD 9750 quad core CPU running at 2.4GHz.  It currently has 4GBs but