On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as
| vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about
| those programs on this list.
Yes, but both of those can be told to use pure
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as
| vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about
| those programs on this list.
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as
| vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about
| those programs on this list.
Yes, but both of those can be told to use
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:40:51 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| fwiw, the termcap internals of vim and screen are just as ugly as
| vi's - and they're much larger - and I don't see any complaints about
| those programs on this list.
Yes, but both of those can be told to use
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I'm certain we're talking about something different, since neither
| vim nor screen uses any other interface in that area than termcap.
|
| I was just in screen yesterday, and am looking at vim right now, just
| in
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I'm certain we're talking about something different, since neither
| vim nor screen uses any other interface in that area than termcap.
|
| I was just in screen
* Alexander Skwar schrieb:
[traditional vi]
Beats me why somebody would want to use it, though.
Experimental archaeology, historical reenactment. It's one of the most
successful applications ever. Thirty years after Bill Joy started
coding it, people are typing $ vi ~/.emacsrc ;-)
I just
On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, George Ellison wrote:
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ivan Novick schrieb:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not
vim??
No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.
But if you don't like the
2005/12/25, Dan Meltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, George Ellison wrote: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan Novick schrieb: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not
vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
| http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net.
No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future
with
On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:33:04 -0500 (EST) Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
| On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
| |
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 05:56:24PM +, Ivan Novick wrote
OK. Thanks for all the replies.
I will just use vim.
Run it as vim -C. From the vim manpage...
-C Compatible. Set the 'compatible' option. This will make
Vim behave mostly like Vi, even
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
Thanks,
Ivan
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Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
I think that the closest in portage is nvi, which is what the BSD's have
by default.
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On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 11:15 +, Ivan Novick wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
You don't want normal vi, trust me on this. : )
We do have nvi, (elvis, but I'm not sure there) and if you're
desperate for the original feeling of loss, the busybox
Of all the editors I have to say Nano is the best. Being a former
Windows user : -)
Although this is totally off topic, I just had to let you know in case
you were wondering.
On 12/24/05, George Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone know if
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ivan Novick schrieb:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.
Sure there is. http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/
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Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net.
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Klaus Fabritius schrieb:
* Alexander Skwar schrieb:
Ivan Novick schrieb:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.
[...]
In 2002 Caldera opened the original vi from Bill Joy under a BSD-style
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ivan Novick schrieb:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.
But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on
of the others?
BTW: How can you
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
| http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net.
No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future
with our lack of termcap setup, hence why the ebuilds
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote:
emerge -C vim emerge emacs
Troll
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OK. Thanks for all the replies.
I will just use vim.
Cheers,
Ivan
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at
| http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net.
No you can't. It's either
Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote:
emerge -C vim emerge emacs
Troll
Chill out. I'm just being facetious.
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George Ellison schrieb:
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ivan Novick schrieb:
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim??
No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones.
But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on
of the
051224 Ivan Novick wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. I will just use vim.
You can set Vim up to act as if it were Vi : look at its dox.
As everyone else has responded too, I don't understand why you want to,
but Linux esp Gentoo are basically about user choice (smile).
If you want a really
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:10:03 -0500 Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| You can set Vim up to act as if it were Vi : look at its dox.
Bad idea. You lose multiple undo levels and the ability to edit more
than two files at once...
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, kashani wrote:
IIRC it used to be in portage as of around of a year ago. You might be
able to track down an ebuild of it in the old ebuilds. I'd have been
able to tell you for sure but I wiped it off my last machine last month
when I enforced the vim with color syntax
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:59 -0500, kashani wrote:
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
Hi,
I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after
my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like
there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved to gentoo-sources,
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 09:06:20 -0400 Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 01:16:38PM +0200, Spider wrote:
| well, its sorta orphaned due to being a pain to maintain
| ( terminfo /curses dependencies) there are still ebuilds, you can
| look in the viewcvs to recover
On Sun, Apr 24, 2005 at 02:36:57PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What he meant was that traditional ex/vi is broken when built against
ncurses rather than termcap, and that we're trying to remove termcap
from the tree on the grounds that it's h0rked.
traditional ex/vi sounds like Ritter's
VIM is still there. Could you use that?
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 19:34 +0200, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
Hi,
I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after
my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like
there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
Hi,
I'm using a script for months now to install my gentoo servers, now after
my last sync i have seen that there are some changes in the portage like
there is no gentoo-dev-sources moved to gentoo-sources, but vi is also
missing!
Is this compleet gone? or also moved,
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