On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote:
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote:
Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like
parted to check.
Dan
MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot
manager can be chainloaded from
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:39:13 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if
you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with
MBR.
Neil, I don't know why you make such a fuss about MBR. I've been using
it ever since
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without
uefi prevents dual booting windows.
So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition
table is that
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote:
I'm afraid you're right:
Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot
from GPT disks?
Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only
supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.
On Sunday 26 July 2015 11:15:03 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without
uefi prevents dual booting windows.
So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition
On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25 2015, Mick wrote:
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote:
Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like
parted to check.
Dan
MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:09:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
PS I checked and the gentoo installation guide says that gpt without
uefi prevents dual booting windows.
So the answer to the question of why are you using a 1980s partition
table is that you want to use a 1990s operating system on
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2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 gottl...@nyu.edu:
My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because
Something else to learn (I don't run a vm).
I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the
supported windows.
That's an exaggeration, VirtualBox is just a few clicks and you
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote:
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net:
I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.)
But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other
OS' on bare
* Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [150726 11:28]:
2015-07-26 8:38 GMT-06:00 gottl...@nyu.edu:
My son wanted me to do that. I didn't because
Something else to learn (I don't run a vm).
I didn't want to face dell support with linux and xen underneath the
supported windows.
That's
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 17:06:11 Jc García wrote:
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net:
I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.)
But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other
OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't
On 26/07/2015 18:06, Jc García wrote:
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net:
I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.)
But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other
OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well
2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
Is that Alan as in me?
No, I should have written Allan, I didn't notice the 'll' also as he
was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with
same name I omitted the last name.
Interesting experience you share
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to
50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are
there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try
* Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com [150726 12:06]:
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net:
I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.)
But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other
OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Todd Goodman wrote:
In the times I've had to deal with support it's usually about doing what
they ask so they finally believe that it's a hardware problem and will
generate the needed RMA # to get replacements. Sometimes that's running
Dell Diagnostics and sometimes it's
2015-07-26 9:33 GMT-06:00 Todd Goodman t...@bonedaddy.net:
I like and use VirtualBox a lot (and agree it's easy to use.)
But the performance and USB handling mean that I need Windows or other
OS' on bare metal most of the time. I don't know how well Dell's crap^W
support stuff runs in a VM.
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 15:14:46 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Actually I did have a bit of a fling with btrfs at that time, but I
couldn't understand what the docs were telling me. I must have had a
comprehension gap or something, but in the end I just went back to what
I knew and reinstalled
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:16:45 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
When you said a new install, I assumed it was a newer computer, but if
you don't have UEFI and want Windows you are apparently stuck with
MBR.
It does have UEFI and perhaps I should have learned how to use it. I
understand
N one is forcing you (unless you have a UEFI board), and more than anyone
is telling you not to use a 2.4 series kernel.
Neil Bothwick
This brings a question to mind: Does anybody know what Linux kernel was the
first to support GPT?
Slackware 13.0, released in 2009 with kernel 2.6.29.6, did
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Jc García wrote:
2015-07-26 14:55 GMT-06:00 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com:
Is that Alan as in me?
No, I should have written Allan, I didn't notice the 'll' also as he
was the original poster and I didn't see any post from others with
same name I omitted the
On Sunday 26 Jul 2015 15:35:15 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to
50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are
there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try but
simply removed the big
On Sun, Jul 26 2015, Daniel Frey wrote:
On 07/26/2015 07:35 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
The system came with windows 7 on the whole disk 500GB. To shrink it to
50 takes work as there are unmovable files in the middle (the are
there since you must actually moved them). Anyway I didn't try
On 07/25/2015 06:09 AM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
Unfortunately, I must start over. After successfully installing linux,
I proceeded to install windows. The result was an unbootable system
invalid partition table (thank you windows installer). I rebooted the
linux installation disk and
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 16:32:19 Daniel Frey wrote:
Is Windows writing a hybrid partition table? Maybe use something like
parted to check.
Dan
MSwindows these days installs a separate boot partition. The MSWindows boot
manager can be chainloaded from there, but then it needs to be able to
On Saturday 25 Jul 2015 14:09:57 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it
On Fri, Jul 24 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It
On 23 Jul 2015 16:18, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub
On Thu, 23 July 2015, at 7:06 pm, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Why is a new installation using a 1980s partition scheme?
Oh, I can answer this one. Cause lots of folks have tried the new
stuff-age (grub-2, gpt, UUID_names etc etc) and have several borked
installs. …
If it's
On Wed, Jul 22 2015, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I
get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with /dev/sda4,
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:07:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
Why is a new installation using a 1980s partition scheme?
Is that you, Lennart? But seriously, if it works, why junk it?
If it works, why are you having problems with it?
Here's my question to you... why should we junk software
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:13:34PM -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote
New software could be:
* more efficient
* technically better (i.e. GPT is technically better than MBR)
* have new features that you don't think you need but come in handy
If your system works, why do you update it? Unless
* Lennart Poetering sends an email begging the GNOME people to make
systemd a hard-coded dependancy for GNOME and it happens.
* Skype now requires Pulseaudio as a hard-coded dependancy
Three pieces of software that were getting nowhere until they became
hard-coded dependancies of
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015, at 01:50 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:13:34PM -0400, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote
* ruby: Started because Matz could not find a language that was perfect
for him. Now it powers loads of websites.
New-and-improved stuff like Ruby gets in via the
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Paul Tobias wrote:
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I
get messages that both
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition
that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said
my newly installed gentoo resides on those sub-partitions.
Why is a new installation using a
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:27:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition
that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said
my newly installed gentoo
On Thu, Jul 23 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition
that is needed to access the sub-partitions it contains. As I said
my newly installed gentoo resides on those
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 12:07:26PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:27:01PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:15:57 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
I really don't want to damage any signature on the extended partition
that is needed to access the
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015, Walter Dnes wrote:
Here's my question to you... why should we junk software that works,
i.e. it does what we need? I want a real reason. The fact that it's
old is not a justification. Neither is teh shiney.
This thread seems to prove that it doesn't just work and
On 23 Jul 2015 02:31, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I
get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with
My new installation is running well, in particular it boots fine.
However the grub2-mkconfig seems odd.
It finds linux (all kernels) and the stub windows partition. But then I
get messages that both ext4-fs and FAT-fs have trouble with /dev/sda4,
which is the extended partition. Perhaps the
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