Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size

2008-12-18 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 18. Dezember 2008 18:15:11 schrieb Matthias Fechner: The raid should have a nice of 3TB and not 747GB. Has anyone an idea what is wrong here? Kernel w/o CONFIG_LBD? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size

2008-12-18 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi Dirk, Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: Kernel w/o CONFIG_LBD? thanks a lot! Best regards, Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-09-02 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Florian, on Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 11:55:14AM +0200, you wrote: Hmm, you might be right. Maybe someone should do a field test. I think we have a candidate here on the list... ;) cheers, Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Matthias Bethke schrieb: Hi Florian, on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:29:07PM +0200, you wrote: Note1: NEVER EVER build some kind of RAID other than Linear (also called JBOD) over two IDE disks on the same cable. Performance will suffer greatly as will security because most simple onboard

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-29 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Florian, on Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:29:07PM +0200, you wrote: Note1: NEVER EVER build some kind of RAID other than Linear (also called JBOD) over two IDE disks on the same cable. Performance will suffer greatly as will security because most simple onboard controllers can't handle a dying

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 27 Aug 2008, at 20:00, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: ... I have two 500GB SATA drives, a 320GB IDE and a 250GB IDE. ... I would like to set these up so that the maximum amount of disk space is usable, but still be able to recover from any one drive failing. I would also like to be able to add

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:11:48 +0100, Stroller wrote: Hard-drives from the scrap pile can be immensely useful, but if you want ease of setup, reliability, redundancy and peace-of-mind then scratch cheap off your list of requirements. As the saying goes Cheap, reliable, fast - pick any two.

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-28 Thread Stroller
On 28 Aug 2008, at 10:24, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:11:48 +0100, Stroller wrote: Hard-drives from the scrap pile can be immensely useful, but if you want ease of setup, reliability, redundancy and peace-of-mind then scratch cheap off your list of requirements. As the

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:53:16 +0100, Stroller wrote: I did open my message with the words cheap, fast purty Sorry, I missed that. - it all depends what you're buying. ;) I think we'll end this conversation right here :) -- Neil Bothwick Is it possible to be totally partial?

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Xav'
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 21:00:11 Benoit St-Pierre, you wrote : I'm in the planning stages of setting up a file server and am considering using RAID. My concern is that my drive sizes are mixed. I have two 500GB SATA drives, a 320GB IDE and a 250GB IDE. I would like to set these up so

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I though you can have up to 255 partitions/drive. The partitions would be in a RAID array so I wouldn't have to deal with them directly anyway. On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008 21:00:11 Benoit St-Pierre, you wrote : I'm in the

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:00:11 -0400, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: I'm in the planning stages of setting up a file server and am considering using RAID. My concern is that my drive sizes are mixed. I have two 500GB SATA drives, a 320GB IDE and a 250GB IDE. I would like to set these up so that

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Xav'
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 21:49:22 Benoit St-Pierre, you wrote : I though you can have up to 255 partitions/drive. The partitions would be in a RAID array so I wouldn't have to deal with them directly anyway. After little googling, it seems that the number of logical partitions may be

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:00:11 -0400, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: I'm in the planning stages of setting up a file server and am considering using RAID. My concern is that my drive sizes are mixed. I have two 500GB SATA

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Xav' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2008 21:49:22 Benoit St-Pierre, you wrote : I though you can have up to 255 partitions/drive. The partitions would be in a RAID array so I wouldn't have to deal with them directly anyway. After little

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID with mixed drive sizes

2008-08-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Benoit St-Pierre schrieb: I'm in the planning stages of setting up a file server and am considering using RAID. My concern is that my drive sizes are mixed. I have two 500GB SATA drives, a 320GB IDE and a 250GB IDE. I would like to set these up so that the maximum amount of disk space is

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-22 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:34:51 +0100 Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 21 October 2007 19:08:21 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, [...] I'm doing this: with /dev/md0 unmounted: resize2fs -f /dev/md0 but with md1 and I get this error: # resize2fs -f /dev/md1 resize2fs 1.39 (29-May-2006) Resizing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-22 Thread Arnau Bria
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:03:08 +0200 Arnau Bria wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:34:51 +0100 Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 21 October 2007 19:08:21 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, [...] I'm doing this: with /dev/md0 unmounted: resize2fs -f /dev/md0 but with md1 and I get this error: #

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 21 October 2007 19:08:21 Arnau Bria wrote: Hi, following http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID and some other docs, I moved my system to RAID 1. Using gentoo LiveCD, all my config worked fine: I was able to mount md0 and md1 (at this point my only raid

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:34:51 +0100 Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 21 October 2007 19:08:21 Arnau Bria wrote: [...] The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 104420 blocks The physical size of the device is 104320 blocks Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 21 October 2007 20:29:47 Arnau Bria wrote: with /dev/md0 unmounted: resize2fs -f /dev/md0 If same thing happens with md1, I suppose I must boot with livecd and do the same with md1, am I right? Yeah, you can't reduce the filesystem online. The RAIDing shrinks the space

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:42:57 +0100 Mike Williams wrote: On Sunday 21 October 2007 20:29:47 Arnau Bria wrote: [...] Yeah, you can't reduce the filesystem online. The RAIDing shrinks the space available for the filesystem slightly. I don't know why, but I've had the same problem before. thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Arnau Bria
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:30:51 +0200 Arnau Bria wrote: [...] Let me ask you one more thing. I have this device: md3 : active raid1 hdh6[1] 98727360 blocks [2/1] [_U] And I'd like to add hdf6, and then sync but against it (I mean, make hdf6 primary and copy its data to hdh6). I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 21 October 2007 22:03:23 Arnau Bria wrote: Let me ask you one more thing. I have this device: md3 : active raid1 hdh6[1]       98727360 blocks [2/1] [_U] And I'd like to add hdf6, and then sync but against it (I mean, make hdf6 primary and copy its data to hdh6). I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid 1 problems

2007-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Mike Williams, Yeah, you can't reduce the filesystem online. The RAIDing shrinks the space available for the filesystem slightly. I don't know why, but I've had the same problem before. The RAID superblock is stored at the end of the partition. -- Neil Bothwick Puritanism: The

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-16 Thread Bryan Whitehead
I think you need to try running a real benchmark like bonnie++ against both. For example, you run time dd but you don't include the sync in the time... Daniel Iliev wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Daniel Iliev, Actually I'd be glad to read some results from a Fake RAID-0 vs

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Daniel Iliev, Here we go. I think the results can't be interpreted unambiguously. Perhaps I'll use a benchmarking program in the weekend to get clearer results. I've found time to move things off the RAID to I can compare with freshly formatted filesystems. LVM on top of RAID-0 is

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-05 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Daniel Iliev, Actually I'd be glad to read some results from a Fake RAID-0 vs LVM tests. My bet would be that RAID-0 w/o LVM would give the best speeds Omitting LVM isn't an option, I'd lose all the flexibility that LVM offers. I don't see why RAID-0

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:39:06 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Out of curiosity I made some tests which confirmed my expectations. What about you - did you have time (and wish) to take some performance benchmarks? I would be glad to see some additional results. So your tests show that RAID-0 is

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-05 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:39:06 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Out of curiosity I made some tests which confirmed my expectations. What about you - did you have time (and wish) to take some performance benchmarks? I would be glad to see some additional results. So

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-05 Thread Daniel Iliev
Daniel Iliev wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:39:06 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Out of curiosity I made some tests which confirmed my expectations. What about you - did you have time (and wish) to take some performance benchmarks? I would be glad to see some

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Daniel Iliev, Actually I'd be glad to read some results from a Fake RAID-0 vs LVM tests. My bet would be that RAID-0 w/o LVM would give the best speeds Omitting LVM isn't an option, I'd lose all the flexibility that LVM offers. I don't see why RAID-0 should be necessarily more efficient

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-0 with LVM - is there any point?

2007-04-02 Thread Daniel Iliev
Neil Bothwick wrote: LVM stripes data across the drives anyway, am I gaining anything from the RAID-0? Would I be just as well off by adding the two partitions directly to the LVM group? Hi, Neil I have to admit I've never made such tests and I'm guessing here but I would say that you

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-15 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:52:26 -0700 kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Farrell wrote: in reality, though, I think the best performance would probaby involve just using the fast drive. RAID introduces too much overhead to make up for itself in this situation I think. I'm betting the

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:14:28 - Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2007 21:00 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] RAID I have one laic question which may not be

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-14 Thread kashani
Dan Farrell wrote: in reality, though, I think the best performance would probaby involve just using the fast drive. RAID introduces too much overhead to make up for itself in this situation I think. I'm betting the act of seeking across the platters on the fast drive for two separate

RE: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-13 Thread Nelson, David \(ED, PARD\)
-Original Message- From: mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2007 21:00 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] RAID I have one laic question which may not be directly connected to Gentoo but I think you'll forgive me that. Imagine such a situation: I

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-11 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 10 March 2007, mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] RAID': Imagine such a situation: I have two hard drives but drive A is twice faster when reading and writing then drive B. I want to make RAID 0 using A and B. Why are the stripes sizes on both drives excacly the

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID

2007-03-10 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:59:41 +0100 mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one laic question which may not be directly connected to Gentoo but I think you'll forgive me that. Imagine such a situation: I have two hard drives but drive A is twice faster when reading and writing then drive B. I want

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID related boot problems

2006-12-03 Thread Randall Barlow
Thanks to *NeddySeagoon *from Gentoo forums, I've been able to resolve my problem. It turned out not to be RAID related at all: I made and mistake in configuring support for my IDE controller! R Randall Barlow wrote: Howdy, I'm trying a new install (since I hosed my last one) and I figured

Re: [gentoo-user] Raid and Gentoo

2006-06-13 Thread Barny M
Rafael Fernández López wrote: I've *NO IDEA* of how should I configure GRUB to detect my RAID. If you can help me I'd be very happy !! Hi Rafael, hope this will help: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Search?search=Raidgo=Go If you are gonna using LVM, also

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1+0 question

2006-03-02 Thread Richard Fish
On 3/2/06, Marton Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Thank you all for the fast replies, you helped me a lot. Unfortunately we cannot afford a HW RAID card, so I have to make it with software RAID. Now I have the idea to use RAID5 and if I get the picure rigth I need let's say a ~100MB /boot

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1+0 question

2006-03-02 Thread Jarry
Richard Fish wrote: On 3/2/06, Marton Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's say a ~100MB /boot in RAID1, 512MB swap not in RAID on every disk, Actually, if you make 512MB non-raid swap on each disk with equal priority, its like having swap on raid0 (it will be stripped over swap-partitions on

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1+0 question

2006-03-02 Thread Richard Fish
On 3/2/06, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I dont understand this. Why should the write speed be so degraded? If you have 4 disks in raid5, and you want to write 1.5 GB of data, you actually write 500MB on disk1, 500MB on disk2, 500MB on disk3 and 500MB on disk4 (1.5 GB data + 0.5 GB

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1+0 question

2006-03-01 Thread jarry
Marton Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - could someone give me a good howto? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#software-raid - do I need to make a /boot partition which is not part of any arrays or will grub boot from raid1+0? You can make /boot on raid too, but

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 1+0 question

2006-03-01 Thread Matt Randolph
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marton Gabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - could someone give me a good howto? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-tipsntricks.xml#software-raid - do I need to make a /boot partition which is not part of any arrays or will grub boot from raid1+0?

Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question

2006-02-20 Thread Richard Fish
On 2/20/06, Nick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think im confusing myself here. can you partition a raid device aka /dev/md0? Yes. You can either use mdadm to create a partitionable raid device, or use LVM/EVMS (which would be my recommendation) to create logical volumes on the array. Just

Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question

2006-02-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 20 February 2006 09:57, Nick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] raid/partition question': just wanted to ask before i mess something up. i have booted off the install cd, created a raidtab with my mirrored drives on it. i have created the raid. now, do i go in and

Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question

2006-02-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 20 February 2006 11:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question': As an extension of this question since I'm working on setting up a system now. What is better to do with LVM2 after the RAID is created. I am using EVMS also. 1. Make all

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question

2006-02-20 Thread brettholcomb
: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question On Monday 20 February 2006 11:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: Re: [gentoo-user] raid/partition question': As an extension of this question since I'm working on setting up a system now. 3. Neither. See below. First a discussion of the two

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 10 help

2005-10-30 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 30 October 2005 05:42, Qiangning Hong wrote: Did you use mdadm to make the arrays? No, I create /etc/raidtab by hand and run mkraid for each md device, following the steps of http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Software_RAID You can ignore any howto that tells you to

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 10 help

2005-10-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Qiangning Hong wrote: As grub cannot be setup on RAID0 (neither RAID 1+0 nor RAID 0+1), I have to create a four-partion RAID1 with /dev/sd[abcd]1 and mount it as /boot. Then I want both my / and /var are RAID10. I use the following schema: /dev/sda3/dev/sdb3

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID 10 help

2005-10-29 Thread Qiangning Hong
A. Khattri wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, Qiangning Hong wrote: As grub cannot be setup on RAID0 (neither RAID 1+0 nor RAID 0+1), I have to create a four-partion RAID1 with /dev/sd[abcd]1 and mount it as /boot. Then I want both my / and /var are RAID10. I use the following schema: /dev/sda3

Re: [gentoo-user] raid messages at boot time

2005-05-31 Thread Christoph Gysin
Richard Fish wrote: I think a far better option would be to filter them in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. Then you do not have to re-patch your kernel with every upgrade. This affects only output via syslog. During the md autorun, the kernel hasn't even finished booting. The post was about

Re: [gentoo-user] raid messages at boot time

2005-05-31 Thread Richard Fish
Christoph Gysin wrote: Richard Fish wrote: I think a far better option would be to filter them in /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf. Then you do not have to re-patch your kernel with every upgrade. This affects only output via syslog. During the md autorun, the kernel hasn't even finished

Re: [gentoo-user] raid messages at boot time

2005-05-30 Thread Richard Fish
Christoph Gysin wrote: Patrick wrote: This is my first raid, i got it working without problems (i think) but my dmesg contains this: Is this a normal behaviour md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... ... The md kernel module is quite verbose. Here is a patch to make the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] raid messages at boot time

2005-05-29 Thread Richard Fish
Patrick wrote: Hi, This is my first raid, i got it working without problems (i think) but my dmesg contains this: Is this a normal behaviour md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: considering hdb13 ... md: adding hdb13 ... md: hdb12 has different UUID to hdb13 Looks ok to

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