Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2017-01-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 28 December 2016 19:00:43 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/12/2016 16:58, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Neil. > > > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 02:09:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> Don't forget split infinitives - the construct that is absolutely > >> forbidden, but no one

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
Sorry for double post... Kmail:5 doesn't show email as being sent Will check again after full synchronisation. (Mailfolder is quite large) On December 29, 2016 6:54:33 PM GMT+01:00, "J. Roeleveld" wrote: >On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:11:27 AM CET J. Roeleveld

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:11:27 AM CET J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? > > > >My first

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:11:27 AM CET J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? > > > >My first

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 19:01:30 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I'm British, lost causes are a speciality. > > lost causes like trying to get KMail-5 working? Lost, not pointless, I gave up on KMail years ago! -- Neil Bothwick Cross a tagline and a tribble? You get a full HD...

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 28, 2016 6:01:30 PM GMT+01:00, Alan McKinnon wrote: >On 28/12/2016 16:01, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:57:12 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> As a native English speaking pedant, I would throw "a die" or "some dice" to decide, dice

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/12/2016 16:01, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:57:12 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> As a native English speaking pedant, I would throw "a die" or "some >>> dice" to decide, dice is the plural :P >> >> So would I, fifty years ago. Not now though; that one's long since

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/12/2016 16:58, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Neil. > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 02:09:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> Don't forget split infinitives - the construct that is absolutely >> forbidden, but no one knows why. I had a production editor who picked me >> up every time I used

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Neil. On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 02:09:10PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > Don't forget split infinitives - the construct that is absolutely > forbidden, but no one knows why. I had a production editor who picked me > up every time I used one. I pointed out that that battle was lost as soon >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Michael Mol
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:08:03 AM EST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 28, 2016 11:03:47 AM GMT+01:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:56:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Ah, now I see. > >> > >> Peter didn't post, Neil did. > >> > >> Too

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 02:09:10 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:56:16 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Nice repartee on the side there. I'm actually just resurfacing from yet > > another user account creation, because the message database yesterday > > was just an

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:56:16 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Nice repartee on the side there. I'm actually just resurfacing from yet > another user account creation, because the message database yesterday > was just an indescribable mess. > > Touch wood, this one might have succeeded after a

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:08:03 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > English grammar discussions are always fun to follow. > Makes one tempted to make mistakes on porpuse. :) You're only saying that so you can claim all future mistakes are deliberate :P -- Neil Bothwick c:>Press Enter to Exit

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:57:12 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > As a native English speaking pedant, I would throw "a die" or "some > > dice" to decide, dice is the plural :P > > So would I, fifty years ago. Not now though; that one's long since been > lost. I'm British, lost causes are a

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:29:53 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > (I've tried correcting indent markers in quoted bits but I've probably got > some of them wrong.) I can figure most of it :) > On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:54:57 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
(I've tried correcting indent markers in quoted bits but I've probably got some of them wrong.) On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 19:54:57 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey --->8 > > >You see how spaced out the folder list is? There's no setting

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? > >My first impression is one of horror. It's ghastly! > >I've never seen such profligate

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 28, 2016 11:03:47 AM GMT+01:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:56:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Ah, now I see. >> >> Peter didn't post, Neil did. >> >> Too much eggnog, that's my story and I'm sticking to it > >Peter's probably still at

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:19:29 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J.

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 28 December 2016 11:54:53 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 28/12/2016 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I > >> will be wrong > > > > Peter seems to have become

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 20:36:36 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:54:57 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match for > > someone who uses English mostly to deal with international friends and > > computers. I am Dutch

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday, 28 December 2016 10:03:47 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:56:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Ah, now I see. > > > > Peter didn't post, Neil did. > > > > Too much eggnog, that's my story and I'm sticking to it > > Peter's probably still at the pub. Nice

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:56:17 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Ah, now I see. > > Peter didn't post, Neil did. > > Too much eggnog, that's my story and I'm sticking to it Peter's probably still at the pub. -- Neil Bothwick "He's dead, Jim. You get his phaser, I'll grab his wallet."

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/12/2016 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I >> will be wrong > > Peter seems to have become the list's statutory grammar pedant, so much > so that even when someone

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/12/2016 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I >> will be wrong > > Peter seems to have become the list's statutory grammar pedant, so much > so that even when someone

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 11:45:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Same with die and dice - one day you will be correct but Peter and I > will be wrong Peter seems to have become the list's statutory grammar pedant, so much so that even when someone else makes a correction, he gets the blame. ;-) --

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 09:28:25 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>I > >> usually throw a dice to decide between US and UK whenever I get > >>asked. > > > >As a native English speaking pedant, I would throw "a die" or "some > >dice" > >to decide, dice is the plural :P > > I stand corrected.

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/12/2016 11:28, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 27, 2016 9:36:36 PM GMT+01:00, Neil Bothwick > wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:54:57 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >>> Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match >> for >>> someone who uses

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-28 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 27, 2016 9:36:36 PM GMT+01:00, Neil Bothwick wrote: >On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:54:57 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match >for >> someone who uses English mostly to deal with international friends >and >>

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:54:57 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > Speaking of English. I always wonder which would be a better match for > someone who uses English mostly to deal with international friends and > computers. I am Dutch myself, which means it's officially a second > language for me. (Always

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 27, 2016 5:39:09 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:19:29 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J.

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 27 December 2016 15:19:29 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? > > > >My first

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On December 27, 2016 3:38:28 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Sunday, 18 December 2016 19:07:23 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> More important, how is the latest kmail behaving? > >My first impression is one of horror. It's ghastly! > >I've never seen such profligate

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 21/12/2016 11:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 19:24:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Looks like a reasonably straightforward set of blockers. Your core >> problem seems to be that portage wants to install kmail:4 but if I read >> you correctly earlier in the thread, you want to

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 19:24:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Looks like a reasonably straightforward set of blockers. Your core > problem seems to be that portage wants to install kmail:4 but if I read > you correctly earlier in the thread, you want to install kmail-16.12.0. > > Correct? Yes, and I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/12/2016 19:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 11:17:54 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 09:59:44 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> /mnt/main is where my rescue system mounts the main system for backup. >>> Do I need to add --xattrs to the tar command? >> >> I

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 20 Dec 2016 11:17:54 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 09:59:44 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > /mnt/main is where my rescue system mounts the main system for backup. > > Do I need to add --xattrs to the tar command? > > I do, when it comes to creating a stage4 tarfile.

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-20 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 20, 2016 09:59:44 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 19 Dec 2016 14:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Monday, December 19, 2016 09:45:21 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > J. Roeleveld wrote : > > > > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 Dec 2016 14:14:56 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, December 19, 2016 09:45:21 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > J. Roeleveld wrote : > > > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > > > > > > wrote :

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 19 Dec 2016 12:23:59 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 19/12/2016 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Has no-one else tried this upgrade? > > Not KMail, it stopped using that since years ago. > > But I do notice that a bucket load of new KDE-5 packages are hitting the > tree, and despite having

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-19 Thread Michael Mol
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:59:36 PM EST Peter Humphrey wrote: > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list > of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks > that portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing >

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-19 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, December 19, 2016 09:45:21 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote : > > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > > > > wrote : > > > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/12/2016 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote : > >> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> >> wrote : This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list of

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
J. Roeleveld wrote : > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > wrote : > > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long > > > list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-18 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote : > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long > > list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four > > blocks that portage couldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] At last! A Qt5 version of KMail-2 - but here be dragons!

2016-12-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
Peter Humphrey wrote : > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list of > kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks that > portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing versions with > emerge -C