Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On 2019-01-24 21:59, Michael Jones wrote: You really can't run Gentoo safely for very long without paying close attention to what you are doing - with both installs and upgrades. I don't know that this is true. I've had the same set of use flags configured on all of my Gentoo computers for

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

Rich Freeman wrote: > > If you use emerge-webrsync then the sync operation itself should use > gpg signature checking and that should rule out server issues. Ditto > if you sync with git with the appropriate settings, though git also > has internal hash consistency checking (that doesn't prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

Alan Grimes wrote: > Michael Jones wrote: >> My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair >> to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the >> output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people exist >> (hi, nice to meet you), and it's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:55 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:18:17 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > Since 2004, I have been using "emerge --sync" to update my portage tree. > > I understand that it accesses a local list of mirrors and then runs > > rsync against one of those. On

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Friday, 25 January 2019 11:18:17 AM AEDT Alan Grimes wrote: > Michael Jones wrote: > > My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair > > to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the > > output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:18:17 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > Since 2004, I have been using "emerge --sync" to update my portage tree. > I understand that it accesses a local list of mirrors and then runs > rsync against one of those. On spinning media hard disks it is helpful > to pre-cache the

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

Michael Jones wrote: > > My reason for replying initially was that I didn't think it was fair > to make light of users who don't expect to *need* to scrutinize the > output of emerge every single time they run it. Those people exist > (hi, nice to meet you), and it's not fair to say they're wrong

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jack wrote: > On 2019.01.24 15:17, Michael Jones wrote: > [snip] > > A lot of people run emerge without checking the preliminary console > > output. > But most (I hope) of them understand the possible problems, and are > willing to "pick up the pieces" if

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Michael Jones wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dale > wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan > that used to > >> come

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > Hypothesis 1: > > Rsync failed to correctly perform it's primary function. > > > Hypothesis 2: > > Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an > inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. > Speaking on behalf of

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On 2019.01.24 15:17, Michael Jones wrote: [snip] A lot of people run emerge without checking the preliminary console output. But most (I hope) of them understand the possible problems, and are willing to "pick up the pieces" if something goes wrong. Most of them do not blame the Gentoo

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:04 PM Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to > >> come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the > >> chair not

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Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to >> come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the >> chair not Gentoo?  I recall the person I'm speaking of having a script >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:04 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'm trying to recall but am not sure, is this the same Alan that used to > come on here and post this sort of thing when the problem was in the > chair not Gentoo?  I recall the person I'm speaking of having a script > that just created a mess and

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Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: >> Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an >> inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. > Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude sucks. > > If you continue to

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On January 24, 2019 21:22:25 Mike Gilbert wrote: On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an > inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. Comments like this are very unwelcome, and your general attitude sucks. If you continue to communicate this way, I will

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On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:39:52 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found: > /usr/portage/dev-python/pygments/files/pygments-2.2.0-sphinx17.patch > > !!! A file listed in the Manifest could not be found: >