Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
You can win, by running it reasonably often and actually doing something
about the output. Ignore a few lines and they soon become a few more, and
then a few more still...
One thing I have noticed in its output is where it lists installed
packages with
On Friday, April 03, 2015 8:52:18 AM Stroller wrote:
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 4:37 pm, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com
wrote:
I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit
configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry
break-alike.
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 07:21:01 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
It's like being a teenager again, the longer you leave tidying your
room, the longer it takes when your mum makes you do it :)
Don't want to harp on it, but I almost never have to clean my world
file, and when I do I don't need
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
Or leave /etc/portage full of cruft and crap and fix any problem it may
cause later on, when you have even less time ;-)
Hmm, have an hour of free time now, at the cost of maybe having an
hour less of free time a year
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
It's like being a teenager again, the longer you leave tidying your room,
the longer it takes when your mum makes you do it :)
Don't want to harp on it, but I almost never have to clean my world
file, and when I do I don't
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 04:41:33 -0500, Dale wrote:
I got into that situation once, you just need to bite the bullet and
work through the output. It's not as bad as it looks as the same
entry can cause multiple reports, so once you clean up a couple of
entries the output can get significantly
On 5 April 2015 14:27:27 BST, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
wrote:
Or leave /etc/portage full of cruft and crap and fix any problem it
may
cause later on, when you have even less time ;-)
Hmm, have an hour of
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 02:24:13 -0500, Dale wrote:
It seems you can't win with that thing. LOL
You can win, by running it reasonably often and actually doing
something about the output. Ignore a few lines and they soon become a
few more, and then a few more still...
Thing is, it seems
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:33:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
eix-test-obsolete
Many thanks, it certainly seems to.
It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I
won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output.
It's one reason I don't use it much.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 02:24:13 -0500, Dale wrote:
It seems you can't win with that thing. LOL
You can win, by running it reasonably often and actually doing
something about the output. Ignore a few lines and they soon become a
few more, and then a few more still...
On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 9:30 am, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries?
I think this will do what you want.
eix-test-obsolete
Many thanks, it certainly seems to.
It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness,
Stroller wrote:
On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 9:30 am, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries?
I think this will do what you want.
eix-test-obsolete
Many thanks, it certainly seems to.
It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:33:06 -0500, Dale wrote:
eix-test-obsolete
Many thanks, it certainly seems to.
It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I
won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output.
It's one reason I don't use it much. It spits out so
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:39:18 +0100, Stroller wrote:
eix-test-obsolete
Many thanks, it certainly seems to.
It seems to do a bit more besides, unruly in its verboseness, but I
won't bother trying to interpret the rest of its output.
eix-test-obsolete is only a shell script that calls
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 5:24 pm, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
The alternative is what I have now - a 1200 line package.keywords file
that tells portage to build half the system 32-bit, when I could care
less …
Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries?
I
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 4:37 pm, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com
wrote:
I prefer it this way. I do not want all the nice easy-to read/edit
configuration stuff in /etc/portage encrypted some Windows Registry
break-alike.
What's bad about the Windows registry is that its
Stroller wrote:
On Thu, 2 April 2015, at 5:24 pm, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
The alternative is what I have now - a 1200 line package.keywords file
that tells portage to build half the system 32-bit, when I could care
less …
Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:00:52 +0100, Stroller wrote:
Slightly OT, but are there any tools for cleaning out old entries?
I could write a script to go through package.keywords line by line and,
for packages where the entry is =package-version.1.2.3, delete those
lines where a newer version of
On Fri, 3 April 2015, at 12:25 am, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
When people you need to communicate with on MSWindows boxes only know how to
manage Skype-ware and you don't run a SIP proxy server yourself, your choices
reduce somewhat.
We'll have to reincarnate Alexander Graham
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:05:28 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
I think we've just gotten into a mode where we automate user
configuration instead of eliminating the need for it.
That's a good way of looking at it.
Most USE flags are not set by the user by by the profile. By selecting a
particular
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:23:21AM +0100, Mick wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you
want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you
use
them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no alternative at present, but
if
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote:
I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody
knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on Linux
anway,
how it’s possible → how long it’s still possible
--
Gruß | Greetings
On Friday 03 Apr 2015 00:08:53 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:40:20AM +0200, me, myself and I wrote:
I used this opportunity to finally rid myself of Skype entirely. Nobody
knows how it’s still possible to use that Microsoft infested spyware on
Linux anway,
how it’s
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:05:28 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Róbert Čerňanský
ope...@tightmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:31:15 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:02:23 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:31:15 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:02:23 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary,
unless you want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these
exist for, whether
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Róbert Čerňanský ope...@tightmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 11:31:15 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:02:23 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary,
unless
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:46:39 -0500, Dale wrote:
Yea. We just batting ideas around. For me tho, it just turned into a
nightmare. If I needed to change something, which file is it in? At
one time I had a dozen or so files and digging through each one of them
wastes time. If I have just one
On 31/03/2015 02:46, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:42:07 -0500, Dale wrote:
I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings
for each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed -
for example when I stop using the package. The
On Monday 30 Mar 2015 09:58:37 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
On 30.03.2015 00:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I like Gentoo, you all know, but things like that scare me off a bit.
This is Gentoo, it's all about choice. Sometimes there's a downside,
like a very long package.use to define to
On 30.03.2015 11:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 30/03/2015 11:23, Mick wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you
want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you
use
them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no alternative
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 30/03/2015 00:10, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is
correct in the end
It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not
your 32 bit
On Sunday 29 March 2015 20:12:45 Alan McKinnon wrote:
... I think Michael posted the correct cause up-thread:
If you're on stable, you'll need to keyword qt-4.8.6 in its entirety.
You can't mix and match versions, and 4.8.6 is the only one that
supports multilib.
Something needs clarifying
On 30.03.2015 00:51, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I like Gentoo, you all know, but things like that scare me off a bit.
This is Gentoo, it's all about choice. Sometimes there's a downside,
like a very long package.use to define to Portage exactly what your
choice really is.
I don't really know
On 30/03/2015 11:23, Mick wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you
want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you
use
them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no alternative at present, but
if
you don't use Skype
On 30/03/2015 12:02, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
On 30.03.2015 11:39, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 30/03/2015 11:23, Mick wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary, unless you
want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist for, whether you
use
them or
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:46 Mick wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to
overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt
4.8.6. How
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
OK, then so why do I have to edit files to tell the system to USE this
and that after the system tells me it needs that ... ?
Why isn't this taken care of within portage itself?
I don't *want* to decide 32bit or not
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 05:59:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:12:59 -0500, Dale wrote:
I wonder if make.conf would be better in my case too? My use file
just grew my a huge amount.
You package.use has grown by one filesystem block at most, how much
On Monday 30 March 2015 13:40:12 Neil Bothwick wrote:
[Re package.use]
I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings for
each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed - for
example when I stop using the package. The alternative would be to
comment every
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:42:07 -0500, Dale wrote:
I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings
for each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed -
for example when I stop using the package. The alternative would be to
comment every entry in the file so
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 05:59:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:12:59 -0500, Dale wrote:
I wonder if make.conf would be better in my case too? My use file
just grew my a huge amount.
You package.use has grown by one filesystem block at
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:02:23 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Hmm ... I don't think setting abi_x86_32 globally is necessary,
unless you want to have 32bit libs for ALL packages that these exist
for, whether you use them or not. I mean that for Skype you have no
alternative at present,
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:12:59 -0500, Dale wrote:
Dang. I had to add about 90 packages to my package.use and some more to
the keyword file.
I wonder if make.conf would be better in my case too? My use file just
grew my a huge amount.
You package.use has grown by one
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:12:59 -0500, Dale wrote:
Dang. I had to add about 90 packages to my package.use and some more to
the keyword file.
I wonder if make.conf would be better in my case too? My use file just
grew my a huge amount.
You package.use has grown by one filesystem block at
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 19:53:18 +0200 Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at
wrote:
I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is
correct in the end
Have you tried to unmerge all the emulation packages before
updating the system, as advised by the news?
I did it before
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 08:42:07 -0500, Dale wrote:
I find the separate files much easier to manage as all the settings
for each package are kept separate, and easily removed or changed -
for example when I stop using the package. The alternative would be to
comment every
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 16:20:31 Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use
sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32
sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32
I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to add those
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote:
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature.
The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade because
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature.
The first thing what happens here is that kde wants to upgrade because
qtchooser's mask miraculously becomes ignored. And
Yanestra wysi...@seismic.de wrote:
Hi,
just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but
after the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole
system is about to be updated.
I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can I do to keep
my working
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:03:50 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using grub so I had to add these two lines to packages.use
sys-libs/ncurses abi_x86_32
sys-libs/gpm abi_x86_32
I don't know how grub is connected, but I had to add those two as well.
and after that doing the following
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 5:58 AM, Yanestra wysi...@seismic.de wrote:
just one question: I had a working system yesterday afternoon, but after
the latest eix-sync my mask settings get ignored and the whole system is
about to be updated.
I have read the news message, and I am baffled. What can
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote:
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature.
The first thing what happens
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to
overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt
4.8.6. How did you go about overcoming this?
I also have
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:43:42 waben...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
I've also ended up with qt blockers, that I do not seem capable to
overcome yet. KDE wants qt 4.8.5 installed which is blocking qt
4.8.6. How did
On 29/03/2015 19:53, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote:
I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed
this:
/etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32:
=dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4
abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.6-r1:4
On 29/03/2015 19:30, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote:
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for
On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote:
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for that when using the --autounmask feature.
The first thing what happens here is that
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 18:07:50 Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 29/03/2015 18:21, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 29 Mar 2015 17:08:32 Yanestra wrote:
On 03/29/2015 05:03 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote:
In most of the cases, Portage will be able to deliver correct
suggestions for that when using the
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On 29.03.2015 19:30, Mick wrote:
I went through that exercise about a month ago, and I needed
this:
/etc/portage/package.use/abi_x86_32:
=dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.6-r1:4 abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.6-r1:4
abi_x86_32 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.6-r1:4
On 03/30/2015 12:10 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
My main system isn't that special at all, gnome, systemd, libreoffice,
thunderbird, some browsers ... Stuff like that makes me really wonder
if I spend too much of my life time struggling with doing *updates* I
like Gentoo, you all know,
Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is
correct in the end
It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not
your 32 bit apps that have to be listed, it's all the libs and deps they
have
On 30/03/2015 00:10, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Am 29.03.2015 um 20:16 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
I have to do that for 195 ebuilds here and really wonder if that is
correct in the end
It's a horrible solution, you are right. The problem is that it's not
your 32 bit apps that have to
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