Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM wrote: ... > > Regarding udev, it has never > > supported serial mice, so it doesn't help me. > What are you talking about? Udev doesn't "support" any hardware; as the > manual page states[1], it: "supplies the system software with

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:07 AM wrote: [...] > It is inconvenient that thoose two goes away. Regarding udev, it has never > supported serial mice, so it doesn't help me. > What are you talking about? Udev doesn't "support" any hardware; as the manual page states[1], it: "supplies the system

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Karl Hammar: > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: ... > > My point is that it's not his call; it's the call of the developers of the > > software that he decided to use. > > Poeple write whatever software they want to or are paid to do. > It is my call if I want to use that software or not. For what

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Based Karl Keep the bloaties at bay Rock on August 23, 2021 1:08 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: > ... > >> Where do you get that impression from? The OP needs handling keyboard and >> mouse (as per his first email), and to do that in Linux these days, you >> basically

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés: ... > Where do you get that impression from? The OP needs handling keyboard and > mouse (as per his first email), and to do that in Linux these days, you > basically need udev, because xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard are > going the way of the dodo. It is

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:18 PM antlists wrote: [...] > What you're missing, is that this code IS NOT USED. > > The OP wants to delete a load of code from his system precisely to > ELIMINATE vulnerabilities. If the code ain't there, it don't need fixing. > Where do you get that impression from?

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 7:18 PM antlists wrote: > > On 22/08/2021 22:59, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:32 PM > > wrote: > > [...] > > > > I'll be looking into that, but on some level, why should I be forced to > > go around udev. Can't

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On 22/08/2021 22:59, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:32 PM > wrote: [...] I'll be looking into that, but on some level, why should I be forced to go around udev. Can't programs be compiled without udev today... Yes, they can, if you (or

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:32 PM wrote: [...] > I'll be looking into that, but on some level, why should I be forced to > go around udev. Can't programs be compiled without udev today... > Yes, they can, if you (or someone else) write the necessary code, debug it, maintain it and keep it up to

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Anna: > On 2021-08-21 22:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Is there possible to resurrect the old drivers ? > git clone https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/repo/gentoo.git && cd gentoo > git log -p -- x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard > git checkout commit_id > > Copy to your local overlay Thanks Anna,

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Neil Bothwick: ... > You need to grab xorg-2.eclass from the git history and put it in your > overlay. Be prepared to repeat this process with other files. Thanks, found them. Regards, /Karl Hammar

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Mart: ... > Also be prepared for all the known security vulnerabilities you > reintroduce by installing a heavily outdated xorg-server with multiple > known vulnerabilities. ... I don't reintroduce them, I just keep them. Also, I had upgraded it if it wasn't for the udev dependancy. If you have a

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Ühel kenal päeval, L, 21.08.2021 kell 23:45, kirjutas Neil Bothwick: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 00:34:32 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > > This should have some of the info you need > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Old_Fashioned_Gentoo_Install  > > > > Well, I already have such a

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On 2021-08-21 22:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Is there possible to resurrect the old drivers ? git clone https://anongit.gentoo.org/git/repo/gentoo.git && cd gentoo git log -p -- x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard git checkout commit_id Copy to your local overlay > Or is there another way to solve

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 00:34:32 +0200 (CEST), k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > This should have some of the info you need > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Old_Fashioned_Gentoo_Install > > Well, I already have such a system, but developments since last > year somehow just claims I have to have a lot

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Vitor Hugo: ... > This should have some of the info you need > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Old_Fashioned_Gentoo_Install Well, I already have such a system, but developments since last year somehow just claims I have to have a lot of (for me) useless processes. I have tried the overlay route,

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

Wol: > On 21/08/2021 21:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > Is there possible to resurrect the old drivers ? > > Or is there another way to solve this ? > > Put in a bug report? I don't think libinput maintainers would care. https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/what-is-libinput.html

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On 8/21/21 5:17 PM, k...@aspodata.se wrote: With the demise of xf86-input-mouse and xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-libinput is put forward as a replacement. But it (or rather libinput) has udev as a hard dependency. I have a ps2 keyboard and a 3-button serial mouse, so there is frankly no use

Re: [gentoo-user] X11 without udev/eudev

On 21/08/2021 21:17, k...@aspodata.se wrote: Is there possible to resurrect the old drivers ? Or is there another way to solve this ? Put in a bug report? Cheers, Wol