[gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
Hi, Todays emerge --sync emerge -vauDN world made me wonder a lot. A lot of packages should be updated according to portage, but a lot of them seems to be wrong with regard to the reported version number. Take e.g. Evolution of which I have version 2.4.2.1 installed. Portage is saying that I have version 2.2.3-r3 installed and that I should update to 2.4.2.1: [ebuild U ] mail-client/evolution-2.4.2.1 [2.2.3-r3] +crypt -dbus -debug -doc +gstreamer +ipv6 -kerberos -krb4 -ldap -mono -nntp -pda -profile +spell +ssl 11,233 kB So what exactly is going on here? Thanks, jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alps touchpad problem
AZixMapping doesn't work. I think it's for mouse driver of x, not for synaptics drivers! -- Wang ShaoChun(王绍春) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Newbie question : specific software version no more available
Thanks a bunch to you Iain and richard as well for pointing me into the right direction ! I ll have a look @ this PORTDIR_OVERLAY feature. Cheers seb Iain Buchanan wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 11:37 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 3/22/06, sebastien Pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 Is there a way for me to be able to download somehow version 2.3.3 You can look in /usr/portage/media-sound/ecasound/ to see what versions are available. Unfortunately for you, there is only 2.4.3 :( If version 2.3.3 still existed, you could install that specifically by saying: emerge =media-sound/ecasound-2.3.3 But since it's not there you'll either have to find the ebuild for it, or upgrade to 2.4.3. 2 If not, anyone could tell me how long packages are kept in the repository Usually the latest stable ebuilds are kept. When there is a security update or bug fix, the affected ebuilds are usually deleted. When a new version becomes sufficiently tested and stable, older versions are deleted if there are no dependencies on them. and what would be the process if i really need to stick with one version which is no longer there? If you _must_ have a particular version for ever, then use the PORTDIR_OVERLAY in /etc/make.conf HTH, -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mozplugger is masked
On 3/22/06, Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. Hi, ~x86 means that this package is marked as unstable because it needs some testing, if you want to test it (don't worry, I've my whole system in ~x86 and it's quite stable), just unmask it this way : echo net-www/mozplugger ~x86 /etc/portage/package.keywords You'll have to create /etc/portage/ if it's the first time you use the /etc/portage/* files ... regards, Boris. .. I have acroread (adobe) and document viewer installed, either of which can read PDF files. prior to emerging mozplugger firefox would launch acroread as a seperate application. Currently, edit=preferences=downloads in firefox doesn't show an action for PDF files. Yet, when clicking on a PDF file link from firefox, the complete URL, ending with .pdf, loads--only it's a blank page. localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # whoami root localhost ~ # ls -hal /home/thufir/.mozilla/ total 20K drwxr-xr-x 4 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:40 . drwxr-xr-x 22 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:57 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 thufir users 335 Mar 21 17:48 appreg drwxr-xr-x 3 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:54 firefox drwxr-xr-x 2 thufir users 4.0K Mar 22 13:55 plugins localhost ~ # ls -hal /home/thufir/.mozilla/firefox/ total 24K drwxr-xr-x 3 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:54 . drwxr-xr-x 4 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:40 .. drwx-- 5 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:55 dif1d0z2.default -rw--- 1 thufir users 4.3K Mar 23 10:54 pluginreg.dat -rw-r--r-- 1 thufir users 94 Mar 21 17:47 profiles.ini localhost ~ # rm /home/thufir/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat -v removed `/home/thufir/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat' localhost ~ # ls -hal /home/thufir/.mozilla/firefox/ total 16K drwxr-xr-x 3 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:58 . drwxr-xr-x 4 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:40 .. drwx-- 5 thufir users 4.0K Mar 23 10:55 dif1d0z2.default -rw-r--r-- 1 thufir users 94 Mar 21 17:47 profiles.ini localhost ~ # exit logout [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ whoami thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ firefox No running windows found Usage: /usr/bin/acroread [options] [list of files] Options: --display=DISPLAY This option specifies the host and display to use. --screen=SCREEN X screen to use. Use this options to override the screen part of the DISPLAY environment variable. --sync Make X calls synchronous. This slows down the program considerably. -geometry [widthxheight][{+|-}x offset{+|-}y offset] Size and/or location of the document windows. Note: this option is position dependent, and can be specified multiple times. The geometry specified only affects the list of files following it. -help Prints the common command-line options. -iconic Launches in an iconic state on the desktop. -setenv var=value Tells the main application to perform the equivalent of C-shell setenv var value. -tempFile Indicates files listed on the command line are temporary files and should not be put in the recent file list. The document title will be the title in the pdf document, instead of the filename. -tempFileTitle title Same as -tempFile, except the title is specified. -toPostScript [options] pdf_file ... [ps_dir] -toPostScript [options] -pairs pdf_file_1 ps_file_1 ... -toPostScript [options] Converts the given pdf_files to PostScript. In the first form, if the last file specified is a directory, then all preceding files will be converted to PostScript and the generated PostScript files will be placed into ps_dir. If a directory is not specified, then the PostScript files will be placed in the same directory as the original file. In the second form, the file list contains pairs, each consisting of a PDF filename and a corresponding PostScript filename. The third form specifies a filter, reading a PDF file from standard input and writing the PostScript file to standard output. Note: When using -toPostScript it must be the first argument passed in on the command line. The following are valid options for the conversion of PDF to PostScript: -binary - emit binary PostScript where possible -start int - identify the first page in the document to be converted (default is the first page of the document) -end int - identify the last page in the document to be converted (default is the last page of the document) -optimizeForSpeed - emit PostScript such that all fonts are emitted once at the beginning of the document. This results in faster transmission times and smaller PostScript documents but requires more PostScript printer virtual memory. -landscape - rotate the pages to print landscape -reverse - reverse
Re: [gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
Question is, why other guys do not start a real open source project to make a phone application? tou mean like ekiga http://www.ekiga.org ? Fred -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 10:40 +0100, Jules Colding wrote: So what exactly is going on here? Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
Jules Colding wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 10:40 +0100, Jules Colding wrote: So what exactly is going on here? Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules I thought only I could do that. Funny ain't it? Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 08:31, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 02:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: But the times, that gentoo was pretty actual in the stable tree are over. You do realize the above sentence makes no freakin' sense, right? nope. If I had realized that, I would have not written it. Gentoo was once VERY up to date, but than the 'stable mania' started and since then, gentoo needs way to much time to get new versions into the stable tree. 3.5.0 is out for ages. 3.5.1 is out for ages Stable is 3.4.3... that is so sad. I am already running 3.5.1 for ages. Perhaps ' so sadness' is no proper mental attitude to achieve the upgrade. package.keywords is my friend, 300+ packages at bleeding edge versions. -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 06:26 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote: Jules Colding wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 10:40 +0100, Jules Colding wrote: So what exactly is going on here? Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules I thought only I could do that. Funny ain't it? Not when you do it in public ;-) -- jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sendmail virtusertable
Hi, I am running sendmail 8.13 on RHELv4WS. Now I have configured this server1 as mailhub.I have enter below lines in the /etc/mail/virtusertable file. ##/etc/mail/virtusertable[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]@ yahoo.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]# Then I run this command. # m4 virtusertable virtusertable.db# service sendmail restart# echo Nice to meet you. | mail -s Test [EMAIL PROTECTED]# echo Nice to meet you too. | mail -s Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] But all two mails are in queue and delayed since last 5 hours. Any idea whats wrong? TnRHiren
Re: [gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
Looks fine. thank you Frédéric Grosshans wrote: Question is, why other guys do not start a real open source project to make a phone application? tou mean like ekiga http://www.ekiga.org ? Fred -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:43:15PM +0100, Jules Colding wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 06:26 -0600, Teresa and Dale wrote: Jules Colding wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 10:40 +0100, Jules Colding wrote: So what exactly is going on here? Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules I thought only I could do that. Funny ain't it? Not when you do it in public ;-) I used to give the shell prompts different colours on different machines to help avoid this. Or rather, the local one would always be the same colour, but shells under ssh sessions were colour-coded by machine. I've lost the script I wrote for this somewhere in the mists of time (if I remember right, it was copied and hacked from a bash prompt example that colour-coded according to the login type: ssh, telnet, local, etc.) Someday I might get round to recreating it... Toby -- PhD Student Quantum Information Theory group Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics Garching, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.dr-qubit.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:36 +0100, Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote: Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules I thought only I could do that. Funny ain't it? Not when you do it in public ;-) I used to give the shell prompts different colours on different machines to help avoid this. Or rather, the local one would always be the same colour, but shells under ssh sessions were colour-coded by machine. I've lost the script I wrote for this somewhere in the mists of time (if I remember right, it was copied and hacked from a bash prompt example that colour-coded according to the login type: ssh, telnet, local, etc.) Someday I might get round to recreating it... That would be helpful. Best regards, jules -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sendmail virtusertable
Hiren Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have enter below lines in the /etc/mail/virtusertable file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] @yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I run this command. # m4 virtusertable virtusertable.db # service sendmail restart # echo Nice to meet you. | mail -s Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] # echo Nice to meet you too. | mail -s Test [EMAIL PROTECTED] But all two mails are in queue and delayed since last 5 hours. Do you have corresponding MX-record? I mean, nameserver authorised for guru.com domain must have MX record in guru.com zonefile, which says that server1.guru.com is mailserver for guru.com domain, something like (for bind): guru.com. IN MX 10 server1.guru.com. Jarry -- Feel free mit GMX FreeMail! Monat für Monat 10 FreeSMS inklusive! http://www.gmx.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LG L1730P in 1280x1024 - solved
csütörtök 23 március 2006 08.30 dátummal Stefán István ezt írta: csütörtök 23 március 2006 07.30 dátummal Stefán István ezt írta: Hello again, I tried to execute xvidtune -show during my monitor is in big resolutions: # xvidtune -show 800x600 49.50800 816 896 1056600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync # xvidtune -show 1024x768 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync # xvidtune -show 1280x1024 108.00 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync I dont't know exactly what does these numbers mean, but maybe it could help you to figure out what's the problem. I found out another thing: if I change my card type from mga to vesa, the monitor displays 1280x1024. Maybe it's not a refresh related problem at all??? I changed my Matrox G550 card to a Radeon 7500, executed the Xorg -configure command, and the created config file works perfectly. It seems that something was wrong with tha matrox card or with the matrox driver. Thanks for the help! Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thursday 23 March 2006 15:07, Jules Colding wrote: I used to give the shell prompts different colours on different machines to help avoid this. Or rather, the local one would always be the same colour, but shells under ssh sessions were colour-coded by machine. I've lost the script I wrote for this somewhere in the mists of time (if I remember right, it was copied and hacked from a bash prompt example that colour-coded according to the login type: ssh, telnet, local, etc.) Someday I might get round to recreating it... That would be helpful. Here is an example that you could put in your .bashrc: # Is this an ssh connection? if [[ ! -z ${SSH_TTY} ]]; then # Set prompt to \green([EMAIL PROTECTED]) \blue($PWD \$) green(.. PS1='\[\033[01;[EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[01;32m\]' # Not an ssh connection else # Set prompt to \green([EMAIL PROTECTED]) \blue($PWD \$) black(.. PS1='\[\033[01;[EMAIL PROTECTED] \[\033[01;34m\]\w \$ \[\033[00m\]' fi If you want other colors or whatever refer to man console_codes. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ftp -- connection refused
Hi everyone, Can't get this thing to work on a crossover LAN. Pings OK, route etc. I've edited the /etc/hosts file every which way. Currently it's 127.0.0.1 sarawak localhost 192.168.0.2 xlan yeti # IPV6 versions of localhost and co ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback fe00::0 ip6-localnet ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters ff02::3 ip6-allhosts The other PC is similar but with the address of the present machine, natch. Turning on debug elicits the following: Servname not supported for ai_socktype. But it's not completely non-functional, iptraf reveals a burst of activity when the connection is attempted. This should work. It worked with the same PCs a few months ago before I wiped the drives and started over. -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Several problems of a newbie
--- Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ...thanks a lot for all your helping answers to my previous questions! I opened a new thread, because I got some problems. In the meanwhile my gentoo system has grown fast. KDE is installed, X is installed and other nice things, too. But there are some little oddities: I installed a vanilla kernel, cause I dont like patched kernel sources that much. It is only a feeling and by no means a mistrust in the gentoo developpers...but...(sorry). -- First problem: I configured the kernel to accept the parameter vga= and added 9 for the mode, which I found working on my old system very well. I used the same config (same hardware, same PC) on my new system. What happens? The kernel boots and shows the tiny font I like so much. But suddenly while working on the bootscripts, the size of the fonts switched to a bigger (ugly, rectangle-shaped font). More mysterious: ALL BLUE letters were cancelled by a horizontal bar. Only the blue ones (I am NOT joking! ;O) Since the boot process was that fast, I couldn't realize, what stage of the boot was currently processed. -- Second problem: I wanted to emerge gnome. After a while this fails with: In file included from apmsleep.c:57: /usr/include/time.h:160: error: redefinition of `struct itimerspec' /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:37: warning: array 'cpu_sibling_map' assumed to have one element /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:38: warning: array 'cpu_core_map' assumed to ha ve one element /usr/src/linux/include/asm/smp.h:46: warning: array 'x86_cpu_to_apicid' assumed to have one element /usr/src/linux/include/asm/hw_irq.h:30: error: storage size of `irq_vector' isn' t known /usr/src/linux/include/linux/irq.h:99: error: storage size of `irq_affinity' isn 't known /usr/src/linux/include/linux/irq.h:115: error: storage size of `pending_irq_cpum ask' isn't known apmsleep.c:60: warning: 'rcsid' defined but not used {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:125: Warning: size of _sigpoll is already 8; not changing to 4 make: *** [apmsleep.o] Error 1 rm apm.o !!! ERROR: sys-apps/apmd-3.2.1_p4 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 50, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I couldn't save more of this, since that was all I could see on the screen (big font problem...see above). -- Third problem: While emerging something often there are messages displayed as fast as they are vanishing in the endless space of bits behind my monitor ;O) Is there any logfile of the emerging process written to somewhere ? Yes if you emerged a file logger of some sort. Then it'll be under /var/logs Kind regard and thank you very much for any helpful reply in advance ! :) mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 00:56 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:25 -0800, Grant wrote: Also, if you start with Stage3, you may not even need to rebuild the installed packages, as if it's been a little while since the Stage3 image was created, there will be new versions of everything, so you'd be rebuilding when you do a 'emerge -u system' anyways. Nice. Is there a slick way to determine if there are any pre-compiled packages left on the system after the first 'emerge -u system'? touch /tmp/firstupdate emerge --update --deep --newuse world find /var/db/pkg/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d ! -newer /tmp/firstupdate In time you will end up rebuilding the lot anyway - assuming you emerge -u world every now and then. The problem with the stage1 was that it left some cruft behind in the portage and system. Hence, the build a stage1 using a stage3 install series of howto's in the forums. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
A week ago I was posted a message when struggling trying to copy my own DVD with: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso or cat /dev/dvd backup.iso After following several leads from Gentoo folks (including replacing DVD cable) I've narrow it down to problem with dma resetting itself on eject. When I boot the computer (amd64) the DVD DMA is ON [quote]using_dma = 1 (on) At this point I can make as many copies as I want using commands dd or cat but I can not issue eject command eject /dev/hdc As soon as I eject the CD (and reinsert it) the status of DMA is changing on the DVD using_dma = 0 (off) And at this point make no difference if I change that status back to ON or not every subsequent DVD copy fails. I've run onto few posting on Google regarding DMA resetting itself but no solution. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to tar?
I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. Could you please help with the command/piping syntax? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On 3/23/06, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. Could you please help with the command/piping syntax? Hmm... basics... I would start with `man tar` and see where that takes you. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On Thursday 23 March 2006 17:46, Michael Kintzios wrote: I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. What about doing two separate tar files, one for /usr/portage and the other for the rest of /usr? Then untar each tar file into the appropriate partition. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
-Original Message- From: Michael Crute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 17:03 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? On 3/23/06, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. Could you please help with the command/piping syntax? Hmm... basics... I would start with `man tar` and see where that takes you. Not very far. ;-) That's why I'm asking for some quick help. I also need to add that I was seeking answers to the above questions in the context of having access only to the new machine and three more partitions on it, all of which are smaller than the total uncompressed /usr directory. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
-Original Message- From: Etaoin Shrdlu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 17:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? What about doing two separate tar files, one for /usr/portage and the other for the rest of /usr? Then untar each tar file into the appropriate partition. Thanks, but I won't be able to do that within the space confines of the partitions available to me on the new machine. They are all smaller than the complete uncompressed /usr directory. To have access to my old box which has plenty of space to do that, I will have to wait until I get back home in a couple of days. I was just looking for a clever way to do it all in the circumstances described. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE version
I've been using 3.5.1 for a while also, imo it should stay in unstable for now. There are a few bugs with the desktop, Konqueror and Kaffeine also has a habit of seg-faulting. I am considering rebuilding it with the debug flags to I can submit some useful bug reports. I think packages in stable should be stable as the name says, not simply older than 30 days or whatever ;-) - Chris On 23/03/06, Petr Kocmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 08:31, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 02:42, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: But the times, that gentoo was pretty actual in the stable tree are over. You do realize the above sentence makes no freakin' sense, right? nope. If I had realized that, I would have not written it. Gentoo was once VERY up to date, but than the 'stable mania' started and since then, gentoo needs way to much time to get new versions into the stable tree. 3.5.0 is out for ages. 3.5.1 is out for ages Stable is 3.4.3... that is so sad. I am already running 3.5.1 for ages. Perhaps ' so sadness' is no proper mental attitude to achieve the upgrade. package.keywords is my friend, 300+ packages at bleeding edge versions. -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On 3/23/06, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... basics... I would start with `man tar` and see where that takes you. Not very far. ;-) That's why I'm asking for some quick help. I also need to add that I was seeking answers to the above questions in the context of having access only to the new machine and three more partitions on it, all of which are smaller than the total uncompressed /usr directory. In that case I would create /usr on one filesystem and /portage on another partition then create /usr/portage and mount /portage to it then untar your file. It should look like this: /dev/hdx1 (/usr) /dev/hdx2 (/portage) /usr/portage - /portage Seems to be the most straightforward way of doing it to me. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE version
Christopher O'Neill wrote: I've been using 3.5.1 for a while also, imo it should stay in unstable for now. There are a few bugs with the desktop, Konqueror and Kaffeine also has a habit of seg-faulting. I am considering rebuilding it with the debug flags to I can submit some useful bug reports. I think packages in stable should be stable as the name says, not simply older than 30 days or whatever ;-) - Chris Well, the only bug I have seen is when I try to change the permissions with Konqueror and right clicking and selecting properties. It gives me a error and changes some of the changes but not all of them. It takes me a couple times to get them right. I have not had any seg faulting though. Are you using good flags? When I had some bad flags I had seg faulting a lot, not just KDE either. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process
Also, if you start with Stage3, you may not even need to rebuild the installed packages, as if it's been a little while since the Stage3 image was created, there will be new versions of everything, so you'd be rebuilding when you do a 'emerge -u system' anyways. Nice. Is there a slick way to determine if there are any pre-compiled packages left on the system after the first 'emerge -u system'? touch /tmp/firstupdate emerge --update --deep --newuse world find /var/db/pkg/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d ! -newer /tmp/firstupdate In time you will end up rebuilding the lot anyway - assuming you emerge -u world every now and then. The problem with the stage1 was that it left some cruft behind in the portage and system. Hence, the build a stage1 using a stage3 install series of howto's in the forums. -- Regards, Mick Alright, thanks guys. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
Is there a way to turn off the line wrap function in vim/gvim? I know it doesn't actually wrap lines in the file - I just want to turn off the visual line wrap in the editor. Is that possible? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
On 3/23/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to turn off the line wrap function in vim/gvim? I know it doesn't actually wrap lines in the file - I just want to turn off the visual line wrap in the editor. Is that possible? :set wrap! You can add it to your .vimrc and .gvimrc if you like. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
Selon Toby 'qubit' Cubitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I used to give the shell prompts different colours on different machines to help avoid this. Or rather, the local one would always be the same colour, but shells under ssh sessions were colour-coded by machine. I've lost the script I wrote for this somewhere in the mists of time (if I remember right, it was copied and hacked from a bash prompt example that colour-coded according to the login type: ssh, telnet, local, etc.) Here's one I use to make a difference between root (red prompt) and user (green). As for other stations, their prompt stays white. Hope it can help : [ $UID -eq 0 ] PS1=\e[1;[EMAIL PROTECTED] : \W \! # \e[0m || PS1=\e[1;[EMAIL PROTECTED] : \W \! $ \e[0m More readable version if test $UID = 0 ; then PS1=\e[31m\h:\w # \e[0m else PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w \!\e[0m fi -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] file limit
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0500 Bruce Therrien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a limit to the files contained in a directory? No. Though the file system type can have an affect on performance if there are a lot of files/directories. For example, reiserfs is much faster at handling a lot of files than ext[23]. What file system are you using? we have over 19,000 in our store graphics directory and sometimes cannot acces it because the ftp software says it's not a directory. It's on an IBM server running gentoo. I would think it is the ftp software and not the file system or server. 19,000 is not a huge number. I have an AMD64 3200+ with 2 GB of dual channel DDR 400 and a SATA II drive with reiserfs v3. The system is speedy but certainly nothing high end. Here is a test I just did: # Touch 19,000 files [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ mkdir /tmp/bigdir [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ cd /tmp/bigdir [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ time for i in $(seq 0 19000); do touch $i; done real0m23.318s user0m6.370s sys 0m16.364s # list 19,000 files [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ time ls -l real0m1.481s user0m0.235s sys 0m0.163s # Remove 19,000 files [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ time find . -exec rm {} \; real0m12.555s user0m3.834s sys 0m8.545s Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
I've run onto few posting on Google regarding DMA resetting itself but no solution. That is simply annoying, that the Linux-Kernel resets DMA. You could try hdparm -k1 - but somethimes that doesn't help either. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] USB TV / Video capture devices
Are there any USB type TV / Video capture devices that works with Linux? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Init sequence
Ryan Tandy: Try calling your favorite rc-script with 'help' as the argument (for example, /etc/init.d/net.eth0 help). This gives a fairly detailed description of what you're asking. Neil Bothwick: Run any init script with help instead of start/stop and you'll see a fairly comprehensive explanation. Yes, at least I can understand what net means. Thanks! Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 20:18 +0100, Sven Köhler wrote: I've run onto few posting on Google regarding DMA resetting itself but no solution. That is simply annoying, that the Linux-Kernel resets DMA. You could try hdparm -k1 - but somethimes that doesn't help either. Yes, I've tried -k1 too, it doesn't help. It seems like kernel bug, I was able to duplicate resetting CD/DVD DMA on both machines: amd64 with BenQ DVD writer and x86 with Plextor CD writer -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
From:: Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:32:55 -0500 In that case I would create /usr on one filesystem and /portage on another partition then create /usr/portage and mount /portage to it then untar your file. It should look like this: /dev/hdx1 (/usr) /dev/hdx2 (/portage) /usr/portage - /portage Seems to be the most straightforward way of doing it to me. Cool! As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2, which is destined to house the /usr/portage directory. /dev/hda2 is a 4.0G partition with only 74M available. My /usr is more than 3.9G large. /dev/hda3 will have the rest of the filesystem (and the remaining /usr directory). What should I run to untar the rest of /usr (excluding /usr/portage) into /dev/hda3 and at the same time delete it from within the gentoo_usr.tgz archive, so that I get some space in /dev/hda2 to untar /usr/portage? Really, what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? -- Regards, Mick Lycos iQ - show what you knoW: iq.lycos.co.uk
[gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
Hi, in general I like systems to be more secure. But in the current configuration'n'installing phase of my new linux my system is a little too secure: I can login as root at the text console. But as soon as I login as normal user, start X (startx) and try an su I'll get fired. No chance. I tried to remove /etc/securetty (by renaming it) and I read /etc/login.def but nothing helps. Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? (background: k3b's k3bsetup needs root privileges to run successfully...) (background2: I am running some of kde's applikations, but only IceWM as environment. But this is not the reason for the behaviour described above...) Thank you very much for any helpful reply ! Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB TV / Video capture devices
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:22:00 -0700 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any USB type TV / Video capture devices that works with Linux? Check out http://www.linuxtv.org/ Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] big trouble with emerge
Hi list wise guys, I am trying to run emerge --metadata on a fresh installed gentoo box and all I am receiving is segmentation fault What Can I do, I can not emerge the rest of the systems I have to use because emerge stops with segmentation fault every time .. :( -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo?
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo? On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Jochen Schalanda wrote: From: Jochen Schalanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo? Newsgroups: linux.gentoo.user On 10/13/2004 11:10 PM, Felix Tiede wrote: submount is supposed to supersede supermount as supermount is running in kernel-space, while submount is a user-space-tool. I think that is not quite correct. submount is a kernel module, hence it runs in kernel space. A userspace solution for automounting would be dbus+hal+ivman or gnome-volume-manager. I tried supermount, submount, and dbus+hal+ivman and at the moment I like submount best since it perfectly fits my needs. But as already said, all the programs (automount, supermount, submount, ivman) have a slightly different featureset, so one should really try them all and decide afterwards which one to choose. Jochen Very informative, thanks. I think I'll go with submount. -Thufir localhost ~ # localhost ~ # localhost ~ # emerge -vp submount These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 159 kB Total size of downloads: 159 kB localhost ~ # emerge submount Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 to / Downloading http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz --15:04:32-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz = `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz' Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52, 216.165.129.135, ... Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|64.50.238.52|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 88,203 (86K) [application/x-gzip] 100%[] 88,20326.49K/sETA 00:00 15:04:36 (26.47 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz' saved [88203/88203] Downloading http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz --15:04:36-- http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz = `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz' Resolving distfiles.gentoo.org... 64.50.238.52, 64.50.236.52, 216.165.129.135, ... Connecting to distfiles.gentoo.org|64.50.238.52|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 75,476 (74K) [application/x-gzip] 100%[] 75,47664.24K/s 15:04:38 (64.11 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz' saved [75476/75476] md5 files ;-) submount-0.9-r2.ebuild md5 files ;-) files/digest-submount-0.9-r2 md5 src_uri ;-) submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz md5 src_uri ;-) submount-0.9.tar.gz * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. !!! ERROR: sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 failed. !!! Function linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 537, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. localhost ~ # localhost ~ # date Thu Mar 23 15:05:01 GMT 2006 localhost ~ # I'm not sure what's meant by the topmost build error, but as it's not too large, I included everything. -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo?
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:06:59 + (GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. As it says, make sure /usr/src/linux is a link to a kernel source you have configured, usually the running kernel. It looks like it currently points to newly-installed sources that you have not yet run make menuconfig/xconfig on. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 012: Window closed - Do not look inside signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: fstab
Keats neokeats at wanadoo.fr writes: I have set my /etc/fstab following the instractions of the Handbook. In the example there is this entry: /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user0 0 you have to know the device of your cdrom generaly it's a secondary master ide /dev/hdc so set fstab to : /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,user0 0 Interest, I gues I missed this upgrading to udev, some time ago. One one system I both cd/DVDrom and a dvdrw dual layer. The NEC 3550A is a dual layer DVD RW which also support many CD DVD formats. grepping the dmesg file I see both devices: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA hdc: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) and hdd: CDU5211, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache, UDMA(33) so I should make my /etc/fstab look like this? /dev/hdc /mnt/?auto noauto,user0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdromauto noauto,user0 0 I also have hal/ivman/dbus installed. sometimes ejecting media from the command line is a challege. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Very informative, thanks. I think I'll go with submount. These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 159 kB Total size of downloads: 159 kB localhost ~ # emerge submount Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 to / snip 15:04:38 (64.11 KB/s) - `/usr/portage/distfiles/submount-0.9.tar.gz' saved [75476/75476] md5 files ;-) submount-0.9-r2.ebuild md5 files ;-) files/digest-submount-0.9-r2 md5 src_uri ;-) submount-2.4-0.9.tar.gz md5 src_uri ;-) submount-0.9.tar.gz * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. !!! ERROR: sys-fs/submount-0.9-r2 failed. !!! Function linux-info_pkg_setup, Line 537, Exitcode 1 !!! Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I'm not sure what's meant by the topmost build error, but as it's not too large, I included everything. What is meant is the last output right before ERROR:; in this case, it is * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. This package compiles against the kernel, as you can see from * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux However, the kernel source that the /usr/src/linux symlink points to has not been configured using make (menu/x)config. Therefore there is no .config file that the package can examine to ensure that the kernel source in question has/will be built with the support that the package requires. You don't have to build or install this kernel source, but you do have to configure it (properly for the submount package) before you attempt to install the submount package. I'd think that the wiki entry will detail the necessary kernel settings. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fstab
Le jeudi 23 mars 2006 à 21:08 +, James a écrit : so I should make my /etc/fstab look like this? /dev/hdc /mnt/?auto noauto,user0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdromauto noauto,user0 0 mkdir /mnt/cdrom2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom2auto noauto,user0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdromauto noauto,user0 0 :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
JimD schreef: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords Well this one I do with a set of revised command nicked from the list, entered into ~/.bashrc, and requiring that 1) su is one of the commands that you are allowed to execute via sudo 2) you are exempted from needing to enter a password for 'sudo su': addkey(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords } adduse(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.use } addmask(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.mask } addunmask(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.unmask } The general idea being that a) sudo seems to be a bit weird; even though it allows you to perform operations as if you are root, it doesn't do so by pretending that you _are_ root, so you still couldn't write to the /etc/portage/package.* files; b) su does pretend you are root, but su alone only just re-logs you in, rather than actually allowing you to execute a command-- unless you use the -c switch. su -c then says, whatever follows this switch is a command that you should execute as root. But of course, since echo $* (where $* stands for what I typed after addkey) /etc/portage/package.* is a complex command, containing spaces, the syntax of the command following sudo su -c needs to be quoted. Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log I'm sure it is, with a bit of creativity, though I honestly don't know what your intention is in any case, since this looks to me like you're logging the output of the sudo command to foo.log (but since there is no output really to typing 'sudo', I have no idea what result you might expect). Anyway, hope this is to some degree helpful; what you most likely want to do is read up on bash scripting to understand how to chain the commands that do what you want to get done with sudo. Depending on your goals, you might also consider aliasing (alias etc-update=sudo etc-update), and fine-tuning your visudo to allow you to run specific apps with sudo, preferably without a password, since if you have to type the password everytime you want to do sudo emerge, you might as well just su, imo. Good luck, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On 3/23/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords if you do this, you'll execute sudo echo and try to redirect the output as the normal user, because the shell doesn't know you're sudoying ;) Sudo takes a command as parameter, enclose the whole command in quotes and try again, like this: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log Same as above... Both give me error message. Are either of these command possible? I used to always just use su, though now I like sudo better. I just can't for the life of me get sudo echo or sudo to work. I can sudo su and then do the commands, however I am lazy and want to save having to exit out from su. Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 16:15 -0500, JimD wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:54:44 -0700 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I've tried -k1 too, it doesn't help. It seems like kernel bug, I was able to duplicate resetting CD/DVD DMA on both machines: amd64 with BenQ DVD writer and x86 with Plextor CD writer It might be a bug, though it probably is only for certain drives. I have a LITE-ON DVDRW LDW-451S on amd64. Here is a test I just ran: [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo eject [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo eject [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ sudo hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ eject --version eject version 2.1.0 by Jeff Tranter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Running eject as root or a regular user did not reset my DMA settings for my DVD-RW. Jim Before ejecting put any CD / DVD disk IN and run: dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup.iso or cat /dev/hdc backup.iso When finished run eject ... and hdparm /dev/hdc See if the parameter using_dma was reset. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:26 -0700, Joseph wrote: Before ejecting put any CD / DVD disk IN and run: dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup.iso or cat /dev/hdc backup.iso When finished run eject ... to be specific: eject /dev/hdc and hdparm /dev/hdc See if the parameter using_dma was reset. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:54:44 -0700 Joseph wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 20:18 +0100, Sven Köhler wrote: I've run onto few posting on Google regarding DMA resetting itself but no solution. That is simply annoying, that the Linux-Kernel resets DMA. You could try hdparm -k1 - but somethimes that doesn't help either. Yes, I've tried -k1 too, it doesn't help. It seems like kernel bug, I was able to duplicate resetting CD/DVD DMA on both machines: amd64 with BenQ DVD writer and x86 with Plextor CD writer -- #Joseph do they both use the same kernel version? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:58:10 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Also i recommend sudo, but thats another whole story... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB TV / Video capture devices
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:22:00 -0700 Joseph wrote: Are there any USB type TV / Video capture devices that works with Linux? -- #Joseph From the mythtv docs: USB Capture Devices. The Plextor ConvertX PVR devices are supported through Linux drivers available from http://www.plextor.com/english/support/LinuxSDK.htm. MythTV uses the Plextor to capture hardware encoded MPEG-4, so the host CPU requirements are low. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
Hi, On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:08 -0500 JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords That's because your _current_ shell interprets the . What you want can be done with sudo sh -c 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log I guess you want to use ... | sudo sh -c 'cat /var/log/foo.log' You can create a short script that does both (nice idea, I currently wrote them for me, too...): ---:suappend:--- #!/bin/sh exec sudo sh -c cat \$1\ ---snip--- and you can do: echo blah | suappend /var/log/blah.log etc.pp. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
JimD wrote: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords echo whatnot | sudo sh -c foo If you don't wish to append, the following can be used as well: echo whatever | sudo dd of=some-file Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log What's that supposed to do? Truncate the file? sudo sh -c foo.log Both give me error message. Are either of these command possible? See above. Alexander Skwar -- It is easier to fight for principles than to live up to them. -- Alfred Adler -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] send mail to gentoo-user locally
There is a great tutorial for postfix/fetchmail and gmail at http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stroller and Simon, Thank you so much for the helpful information. Finally, I changed the settings of postfix, and let all my emails relay through gmail server. It seems work. Best, Mingfeng On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 06:21:17AM +, Stroller wrote: On 20 Mar 2006, at 22:46, Mingfeng Yang wrote: ... Now my problem is: the mail sent out by postfix (sendmail) is always get rejected by the mailing lists, though I set my_hdr From: mfyang [EMAIL PROTECTED] in muttrc. I'm not familiar with Mutt, but it looks like've got a space between the and the g. Is this correct / important / relevant? How can I cheat the mailing list and let my email go to everybody even if it's sent from my local sendmail program instead of gmail sever? This should surely work as you anticipate. A work-around might be to relay through Gmail's SMTP server, tho'. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:24, Michael Kintzios wrote: What should I run to untar the rest of /usr (excluding /usr/portage) into /dev/hda3 and at the same time delete it from within the gentoo_usr.tgz archive, so that I get some space in /dev/hda2 to untar /usr/portage? Really, what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? You don't have to scp the archieve to the machine before unpacking it. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup#Securely_backing_up_a_filesystem_on_a_remote_machine Also if you look at man tar you'll find tar --exclude PATTERN HtH -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:03:08 -0500 JimD wrote: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log Both give me error message. Are either of these command possible? I used to always just use su, though now I like sudo better. I just can't for the life of me get sudo echo or sudo to work. I can sudo su and then do the commands, however I am lazy and want to save having to exit out from su. Jim man i have been wanting to know the answer to that for ages, but have lived with it. the elevation of privilege does not seem to survive the redirection. I suspect you need to know more than I do about the way redirection is handled by the shell to explain it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
Holly Bostick wrote: JimD schreef: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords Well this one I do with a set of revised command nicked from the list, entered into ~/.bashrc, and requiring that 1) su is one of the commands that you are allowed to execute via sudo 2) you are exempted from needing to enter a password for 'sudo su': addkey(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords } What's the use of su here? I don't understand. What's happening is, that a root process executes su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords But why switch user from root to root to execute echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords I don't understand that. Please explain. The general idea being that a) sudo seems to be a bit weird; even though it allows you to perform operations as if you are root, it doesn't do so by pretending that you _are_ root, Uh? What are you talking about? The command is run with root rights. If you use sudo -H, even $HOME is set to ~root. so you still couldn't write to the /etc/portage/package.* files; Yes, you can. The error is, that with sudo echo blah file Here the NORMAL USER does file, *NOT* the root echo process! Have a read in your shell manpage. b) su does pretend you are root, What do you mean with that? Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log I'm sure it is, with a bit of creativity, though I honestly don't know what your intention is in any case, since this looks to me like you're logging the output of the sudo command to foo.log (but since there is no output really to typing 'sudo', I have no idea what result you might expect). A truncated file is to be expected, as that's what's happening when you do filename Anyway, hope this is to some degree helpful; what you most likely want to do is read up on bash scripting to understand how to chain the commands that do what you want to get done with sudo. Yep. Alexander Skwar -- Keep brain from freezing. -- Homer Simpson Simpson and Delilah -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. ?!? where's the problem? logins as root at the tty -- adds user to wheel -- startx -- everyone is happy. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to install iplimit?
Hello I would like to use iplimit in my firewall. I use iptables-1.3.4 with extensions USE flag and gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 I can't find iplimit module in that kernel: # grep -i iplimit /usr/src/linux/.confg {none} How to install iplimit on my server? What should I do? Maybe there is other module, that can restrict number of connections from define IP address? P.S. Sorry about crosspost - I've send this message few days ago to gentoo-security mail list, but nobody reply. -- Mariusz Zalewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
so that means log into root before you run X. # vi groups (or whatever the correct way of doing it is) add your user to wheel you're done Cheers Antoine On 23/03/06, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:35, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Where do I have to tweak to allow su from xterm, mrxvt or whatever owned by a normal user ? I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- This is where I should put some witty comment. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On 3/23/06, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JimD schreef: I have been using Linux for a number of years and the one trick I have never read how to do is something like: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords Well this one I do with a set of revised command nicked from the list, entered into ~/.bashrc, and requiring that 1) su is one of the commands that you are allowed to execute via sudo 2) you are exempted from needing to enter a password for 'sudo su': addkey(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords } adduse(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.use } addmask(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.mask } addunmask(){ sudo su -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.unmask } The general idea being that a) sudo seems to be a bit weird; even though it allows you to perform operations as if you are root, it doesn't do so by pretending that you _are_ root, so you still couldn't write to the /etc/portage/package.* files; b) su does pretend you are root, but su alone only just re-logs you in, rather than actually allowing you to execute a command-- unless you use the -c switch. su -c then says, whatever follows this switch is a command that you should execute as root. But of course, since echo $* (where $* stands for what I typed after addkey) /etc/portage/package.* is a complex command, containing spaces, the syntax of the command following sudo su -c needs to be quoted. Another one I always wanted to know if it is possible is: sudo /var/log/foo.log I'm sure it is, with a bit of creativity, though I honestly don't know what your intention is in any case, since this looks to me like you're logging the output of the sudo command to foo.log (but since there is no output really to typing 'sudo', I have no idea what result you might expect). Anyway, hope this is to some degree helpful; what you most likely want to do is read up on bash scripting to understand how to chain the commands that do what you want to get done with sudo. Depending on your goals, you might also consider aliasing (alias etc-update=sudo etc-update), and fine-tuning your visudo to allow you to run specific apps with sudo, preferably without a password, since if you have to type the password everytime you want to do sudo emerge, you might as well just su, imo. Good luck, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Holly is right, I had some scripts running the commands I said, heh, what I didn't notice was an alias for sudo as sudo su -c... Sorry for my fast and wrong response... :) -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big trouble with emerge
On 3/23/06, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list wise guys, I am trying to run emerge --metadata on a fresh installed gentoo box and all I am receiving is segmentation fault What Can I do, I can not emerge the rest of the systems I have to use because emerge stops with segmentation fault every time .. :( Just a silly question, but did you emerge --sync first? -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:52, Bo Andresen wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 21:24, Michael Kintzios wrote: What should I run to untar the rest of /usr (excluding /usr/portage) into /dev/hda3 and at the same time delete it from within the gentoo_usr.tgz archive, so that I get some space in /dev/hda2 to untar /usr/portage? Really, what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? You don't have to scp the archieve to the machine before unpacking it. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Backup#Securely_backing_up_a_filesystem_on_a_r emote_machine Perhaps that link wasn't as useful to you as I thought when I transmitted it. Here are a couple of other examples. I think it requires GNU tar. This compacts data recursively from /from/path and using gzip, pipes it through ssh and extracts it into /to/path: # tar -zcf - /from/path | ssh desktop.homelinux.com tar -C /to/path -xzf - And this just pipes through ssh and extracts using bunzip2 to /to/path on remote machine # cat file.tar.bz2 | ssh desktop.homelinux.com tar -C /to/path -xjf - -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:27:46 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sudo takes a command as parameter, enclose the whole command in quotes and try again, like this: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords ^ ^ ^ ^ Careful with those quotation marks - you might want to escape them ;-) I would use single quotes on the outside to avoid the confusion: sudo 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:45:16 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: the elevation of privilege does not seem to survive the redirection. I suspect you need to know more than I do about the way redirection is handled by the shell to explain it. Redirection is applied before the command is executed, so you are redirecting the output of sudo. It's the same as if you'd typed sudo /some/file somecommand -- Neil Bothwick If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. * Maslow signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Thats true... However: I can login as root at the text console. useradd -G wheel *name* *password* Gabriel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dd if=/dev/dvd of=backup.iso - DMA related problem
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 17:25 -0500, JimD wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:26:20 -0700 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before ejecting put any CD / DVD disk IN and run: dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup.iso or cat /dev/hdc backup.iso When finished run eject ... and hdparm /dev/hdc See if the parameter using_dma was reset. [EMAIL PROTECTED] # dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup.iso CTRL+C 37824+0 records in 37824+0 records out /tmp [EMAIL PROTECTED] # ls -l backup.iso -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19M Mar 23 17:20 backup.iso [EMAIL PROTECTED] # hdparm /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 256 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument DMA is still on. I don't know why I always get that HDIO_GETGEO failed error. Do you have another CD/DVD drive you can try? Are you using SCSI emulation? I am using kernel 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 Jim Did you do eject /dev/hdc between dd and hdparm? dd if=/dev/hdc of=backup.iso eject dev/hdc hdparm /dev/hdc Yes, I've tried this combination on two different machines with two different drives and DMA gests rest on both. amd64 + BenQ DVD x86 + Plexwriter I'm using kernel 2.6-15 -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thursday 23 March 2006 23:38, Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:27:46 -0300 Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sudo takes a command as parameter, enclose the whole command in quotes and try again, like this: sudo echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords ^ ^ ^ ^ Careful with those quotation marks - you might want to escape them ;-) I would use single quotes on the outside to avoid the confusion: sudo 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Yeah, and the neat thing ... it still doesn't work... ;) As Daniel admitted in reply to Hollys mail in this thread he had an alias for sudo. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo?
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Jochen Schalanda wrote: From: Jochen Schalanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] autofs, supermount, submount... which is best for Gentoo? Newsgroups: linux.gentoo.user On 10/13/2004 11:10 PM, Felix Tiede wrote: submount is supposed to supersede supermount as supermount is running in kernel-space, while submount is a user-space-tool. I think that is not quite correct. submount is a kernel module, hence it runs in kernel space. A userspace solution for automounting would be dbus+hal+ivman or gnome-volume-manager. I tried supermount, submount, and dbus+hal+ivman and at the moment I like submount best since it perfectly fits my needs. But as already said, all the programs (automount, supermount, submount, ivman) have a slightly different featureset, so one should really try them all and decide afterwards which one to choose. Jochen Very informative, thanks. I think I'll go with submount. -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fstab
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:08:33 + (UTC), James wrote: so I should make my /etc/fstab look like this? /dev/hdc /mnt/?auto noauto,user0 0 /dev/hdd /mnt/cdromauto noauto,user0 0 I also have hal/ivman/dbus installed. If you use ivman (or KDE's HAL-based media handling) you don't need anything in fstab, unless you want to override the mount points used by ivman. -- Neil Bothwick PROSTITUTE: Receiver of swollen goods. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hosted server as distcc machine
On Wednesday 22 March 2006 17:10, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Hosted server as distcc machine': Is there anything wrong with making a remote machine [a] distcc system? Not really, but you do need to realize that distcc doesn't guarantee that jobs will be sent to the remote machines and will not prevent jobs from being run locally. Good to know for sure. I was kinda surprised at the behavior. I was sort of hoping distcc would just sort of hold the job until a slot opened up. It's not a big deal, but something that you should be aware of. Also, distccd is a wide-open security hole. Not good. The remote machine I'm considering using distcc on is my business's server. I can't have break-ins there. Then I don't suggest distccd open to the internet (or any public network) -- it was never designed to be secure. It's not a big target ATM for hackers AFAIK, but it's still a large vulnerability. It's probably better to use distcc over ssh, using an ssh-agent and PKI authentication. So using distcc along with ssh and PKI would be sufficient to prevent the rooted box mentioned above? It won't /completely/ prevent it. But, it will bring down the risk significantly. Random attackers will no longer simply be able to spoof IPs, instead the attacker will have to have the username and private key of a user known to have shell access. (Malicious users or a healthy dose of paranoia may force you to limit shell access anyway.) How would ssh and PKI be set up in the workflow? It isn't mentioned here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml Yeah, I started with that document, too. distcc/ssh/PKI is not covered, since it is moderately advanced. 1) On the server, set up the shell account that will use distcc via ssh. 2) On the client, generate the private key for that account and use ssh-copy-id to give the server the public key. Please, please, give your private key a good passphrase -- I've seen some people use an empty passphrase! 3) On the server, if possible, disable password logins to force the use of the private key for that user. 4) On the client, add a line like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to your distcc_hosts. You can leave out the shell_account part if you want to log in to the server as the user invoking distcc, but you must include the @ since that's how distcc knows the host is accessed via ssh. You can add a :port section if the server runs ssh on a port other than 22; You can add a /limit section (after or in lieu of the :port section) to have the client limit the number of distcc jobs that will be sent to the server 5) Prior to invoking distcc on the client, start an ssh-agent (I prefer the keychain meta-agent.) and optionally add your private key to the agent. (If you don't start an agent, each compile that goes to an ssh host will ask for a password -- very troublesome with parallel make; If you don't add your private key to the agent, you'll get prompted for the passphrase the first time you need a key -- still moderately troublesome.) There is no need to run distccd on the server at all. You /will/ need sshd. Remember, since these are standard ssh connections, you'll limit the number of simultaneous jobs on the server by limiting the number of simultaneous ssh logins -- not by using any distccd settings. As far as compile jobs from cron, I just don't suggest them. If you /have/ to use them, have them compile locally. If they /have/ to use your distcc hosts, you'll have to figure out some way to give your cron jobs access to your private key without compromising it's security -- not an easy feat. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE version
On Thursday 23 March 2006 11:22, Christopher O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: KDE version': I've been using 3.5.1 for a while also, imo it should stay in unstable for now. There are a few bugs with the desktop, Konqueror and Kaffeine also has a habit of seg-faulting. I am considering rebuilding it with the debug flags to I can submit some useful bug reports. I think packages in stable should be stable as the name says, not simply older than 30 days or whatever ;-) It's not /simply/ older than 30 days. They have to be ~ARCH for /at least/ 30 days, so that ~ARCH users have plenty of time to find and file bugs that exist. It's rather hard to say a package is stable before it's gone through the ~ARCH users cleanly, so I'd say that stable implies older than 30 days therefore stable and older than 30 days == stable. So, really, stable gentoo packages are stable as the name says. :) (That said, I love my ~amd64 machine; but I regularly upgrade and have enough time to file most to all of the bugs I find.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
On Thursday 23 March 2006 16:31, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?': Perhaps that link wasn't as useful to you as I thought when I transmitted it. Here are a couple of other examples. I think it requires GNU tar. This compacts data recursively from /from/path and using gzip, pipes it through ssh and extracts it into /to/path: # tar -zcf - /from/path | ssh desktop.homelinux.com tar -C /to/path -xzf - Or, for non-GNU tar: tar cf - /from/path | gzip -c | ssh desktop.homelinux.com 'cd /to/path; gunzip -c | tar xf -' (Some non-gnu tars probably don't even need the 'f -' parts...) And this just pipes through ssh and extracts using bunzip2 to /to/path on remote machine # cat file.tar.bz2 | ssh desktop.homelinux.com tar -C /to/path -xjf - Or for non-GNU tar without the unnecessarily spawned process: ssh desktop.homelinux.com 'cd /to/path; bunzip2 -c | tar xf -' file.tar.bz2 (Each of my examples is meant to be a single line.) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thursday 23 March 2006 16:33, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo': If you type something like the following: /tmp/myfile.foo It will truncate the file. I use it when I want to clear out logs real quick. I can sudo su and then just type (without the quotes): /var/log/mail/current and have a clean log. However to do that I need to be root and the only thing I found is to sudo su and then type the command and then exit from root. Try: sudo /bin/bash -c ' /var/log/mail/current' or, if that doesn't work: sudo /bin/bash -c ': /var/log/mail/current' Shells handle redirection and pipes, sudo does not, AFAIK. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thursday 23 March 2006 17:08, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)': On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. While KDE may do some autodetection re: this, my Root Shell (uncustomized) from Konsole runs 'su -'; which will be a problem if you want to use sudo instead. (Or can't su for some reason.) If you do, you can edit the existing session or create a new session to run 'sudo -s'. I use this nice feature to have a session that runs su - -c 'screen -x -R -s /bin/bash' (and a similar one for non-root). I don't know show well (if at all) screen runs under sudo, but the equivalent should be something along the lines of 'sudo screen -x -R -s /bin/bash' Hrm, after writing this I realize I'm not in the sudo thread anymore. *shrug* Maybe this is useful information to someone. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:08:36 + b.n. wrote: I think you just need to add the user to the wheel group. HTH which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. ?!? where's the problem? logins as root at the tty -- adds user to wheel -- startx -- everyone is happy. Oh I agree, I only meant that trying to do it from within a user login (including X) created the chicken/egg problem. Also of course you have to remember that you need to log in afresh after being added to a new group! -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On 23:38 Thu 23 Mar , Renat Golubchyk wrote: Careful with those quotation marks - you might want to escape them ;-) I would use single quotes on the outside to avoid the confusion: sudo 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Do that and it'll say sudo: echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords: command not found This has been discussed on here before. The problem is that if you do `sudo echo foo bar`, the echo is being run as root, but the writing to bar isn't. In this case, you might like to look at app-portage/flagedit (it's less typing for a start). -- djm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] alps touchpad problem
On 3/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AZixMapping doesn't work. I think it's for mouse driver of x, not for synaptics drivers! Hmm, your other choice is xmodmap. Something like: xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 might work. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
Hi all, I needed to restart sendmail more than once after upgrade and noticed the script always produces these warnings: # /etc/init.d/sendmail restart * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Stopping sendmail ... [ok] * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)... * Starting sendmail ... [ok] What might be wrong here? TIA, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] My Gentoo is too secure ... ;)
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:16:54 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Thursday 23 March 2006 22:42, Nick Rout wrote: which you probably cannot do without logging in as root at a console as once you log into X as user, you cannot su. chicken egg chicken egg. Not necessarily: if you use kde, konsole has a root shell feature. Which I suspect only works if you can use su, although i am not 100% on that. dosn't su just have its own /etc/pam.d/su file that has pam_rootok.so in it so root can just su without a passwd and it also has a module that checks if they are in the wheel group. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:12:38 + David Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23:38 Thu 23 Mar , Renat Golubchyk wrote: Careful with those quotation marks - you might want to escape them ;-) I would use single quotes on the outside to avoid the confusion: sudo 'echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords' Do that and it'll say sudo: echo app-portage/porthole ~* /etc/portage/package.keywords: command not found This has been discussed on here before. The problem is that if you do `sudo echo foo bar`, the echo is being run as root, but the writing to bar isn't. Alright, then run sudo bash -c 'echo some_string some_file' No problem here :) Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Have portage lost its memory?
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 03:07:08PM +0100, Jules Colding wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:36 +0100, Toby 'qubit' Cubitt wrote: Having an SSH session on another machine and forgetting ll about it. Please forgive my stupidity here. Sorry, jules I thought only I could do that. Funny ain't it? Not when you do it in public ;-) I used to give the shell prompts different colours on different machines to help avoid this. Or rather, the local one would always be the same colour, but shells under ssh sessions were colour-coded by machine. I've lost the script I wrote for this somewhere in the mists of time (if I remember right, it was copied and hacked from a bash prompt example that colour-coded according to the login type: ssh, telnet, local, etc.) Someday I might get round to recreating it... That would be helpful. Here you go. It also checks if you're root. Save it as something suitable somewhere in your $PATH, (e.g. ~/bin/bash_prompt), modify to suit your setup, then do: source ~/bin/bash_prompt colour_code_prompt unset colour_code_prompt either from the shell or in your .bashrc to load it. Use at your own risk, since I've only just written it, and haven't tested it very heavily! (When I've used it a bit to check it works properly, I might document it a bit and put it on my web site.) Toby -- bash_prompt: -- #!/bin/bash function colour_code_prompt { # set up some colour escape variables BLUE=\[\033[1;34m\] GREEN=\[\033[1;32m\] CYAN=\[\033[1;36m\] RED=\[\033[1;31m\] MAGENTA=\[\033[1;35m\] YELLOW=\[\033[1;33m\] WHITE=\[\033[1;37m\] GREY=\[\033[00m\] # if logged in via ssh, choose colours according to host and user if [ -n $SSH_CLIENT ]; then if [ $EUID == 0 ]; then case $(hostname -f) in box1.some.domain) COLOUR1=$RED COLOUR2=$GREEN ;; box2*) COLOUR1=$RED COLOUR2=$YELLOW ;; *) COLOUR1=$RED COLOUR2=$MAGENTA ;; esac else case $(hostname -f) in box1.some.domain) COLOUR1=$GREEN COLOUR2=$CYAN ;; box2*) COLOUR1=$YELLOW COLOUR2=$BLUE ;; *.some.other.domain) COLOUR1=$CYAN COLOUR2=$RED ;; *) COLOUR1=$MAGENTA COLOUR2=$BLUE ;; esac fi # if logged in locally as root, use different colours elif [ $EUID == 0 ]; then COLOUR1=$RED COLOUR2=$BLUE # otherwise, use default colours else COLOUR1=$GREEN COLOUR2=$BLUE fi # set the prompt export PS1=[EMAIL PROTECTED] $COLOUR2\w \$ $GREY } -- PhD Student Quantum Information Theory group Max Planck Institute for Quantum Optics Garching, Germany email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.dr-qubit.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] pump - dhcp - reject: msgtyp: 6 ??
Hello all I am having a problem with pump apparently failing to renew leases. See logs.. Mar 23 07:11:03 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:11:03 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:08 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:15 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:27 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:34 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:11:34 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:37 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:44 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:11:57 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:04 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:12:04 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:06 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:12 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:24 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:33 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:12:33 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:36 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:42 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:12:53 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:03 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:13:03 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:07 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:14 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:28 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:33 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:13:33 arrakis pumpd[9212]: PUMP: sending discover Mar 23 07:13:34 arrakis pumpd[9212]: got dhcp offer Mar 23 07:13:34 arrakis pumpd[9212]: PUMP: sending second discover Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: PUMP: got an offer Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: PUMP: got lease Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: device: eth0 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: set: 416 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: bootServer: 192.168.1.1 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: reqLease: 43200 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: ip: 192.168.1.105 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: next server: 192.168.1.1 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: netmask: 255.255.255.0 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: gateways[0]: 192.168.1.1 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: numGateways: 1 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: dnsServers[0]: 68.87.72.130 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: dnsServers[1]: 68.87.77.130 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: numDns: 2 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: domain: hsd1.il.comcast.net. Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: broadcast: 192.168.1.255 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: intf: network: 192.168.1.0 Mar 23 07:13:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: configured interface eth0 Mar 23 07:13:39 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:46 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:13:59 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:14:05 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:14:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:14:39 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:14:45 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:14:56 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:15:05 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:15:35 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:15:40 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:15:47 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:15:59 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:16:06 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:16:36 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:16:39 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:16:44 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:16:56 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:17:06 arrakis pumpd[9212]: failed to renew lease for device eth0 Mar 23 07:17:36 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:17:39 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 Mar 23 07:17:46 arrakis pumpd[9212]: reject: msgtyp: 6 This is just a small chunk. The 'reject: msgtyp: 6' continues for hours prior as well. These errors always begin at certain times of the day: 0600 and 1800 (6AM and 6PM) which makes me suspect that it is something external to my system that is causing the errors. Also, as you can see in the above example, I re-initialized pump at 07:13:33 and it very clearly states that it got a lease, though the errors persist afterwards. Before I re-initialized pump, my applications were behaving as though they had no internet connection (Gaim and Firefox), and after I re-initialized, they found the net just fine, even though those errors continued. I've searched the Gentoo forums and Googled, for 'reject msgtyp 6' and tried to find an error table of some sort for
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE version
On Thursday 23 March 2006 18:22, Christopher O'Neill wrote: I've been using 3.5.1 for a while also, imo it should stay in unstable for now. There are a few bugs with the desktop, Konqueror and Kaffeine also has a habit of seg-faulting. I am considering rebuilding it with the debug flags to I can submit some useful bug reports. I think packages in stable should be stable as the name says, not simply older than 30 days or whatever ;-) but it does not become 'better' by staying in unstable. And KDE 3.4.3 has its bugs too.. a lot of them fixed in the 3.5 releases. 3.5.1 is not in stable, and 3.5.2 is already looming around the corner -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
Michael Kintzios wrote: As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2, which is destined to house the /usr/portage directory. /dev/hda2 is a 4.0G partition with only 74M available. How big is gentoo_usr.tgz? What's the rest on /dev/hda2? /dev/hda3 will have the rest of the filesystem (and the remaining /usr directory). What's on /dev/hda3 now? How big is it? What's on /dev/hda1? Can't you move the gentoo_usr.tgz to another roomier partition? If I get it right, /dev/hda3 is destined to become your /, and /dev/hda2 your /usr/portage. Have you already upacked the rest of / on /dev/hda3? How about retarring it and untarring it after gentoo_usr.tgz? what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? Yes, but GNU tar cannot do that, it can only do one command at a time, either --extract or --delete or ... Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Splash livecd-2006.0 not working
I did follow this guide a long time ago and again yesterday. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash When I use emergence as theme everything is working just like it is supposed to. But when I change to livecd-2005.1 or livecd-2006.0 (I think any theme that has activity instead of just a picture) I get this error during bootup: = Booting 'Gentoo Linux' root (hd0,1) Filesystem type is reiserfs, partition type 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap spla sh=verbose,theme:live-cd-2006.0 quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x1c00, size=0x19d4cd] initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050 [Linux-initrd @ 0x1ff68000, 0x87c57 bytes] Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel. Can't open config file /etc/splash/live-cd-2006.0/1400x1050.cfg. Failed to load image (null). Failed to get verbose splash image. = From grub: = title Gentoo Linux root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap splash=verbose,theme:live-cd-2006.0 quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050 = = # ls -l /boot [...] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 556119 Mar 23 18:42 fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Mar 23 00:03 vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.15-suspend2-r8 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1700557 Mar 23 00:03 vmlinuz-2.6.15-suspend2-r8 [...] = Until yesterday I was using gentoo-sources but that has not changed anything. I have had this problem for a long time. Obviously something is wrong with the initramfs. It was created by this command: # splash_geninitramfs -g /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050 -r 1400x1050 -v livecd-2006.0 If while booted a type: # splash_manager --theme livecd-2006.0 -c set the splash theme is loaded successfully on tty1. Any ideas? -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 09:40 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:22:00 -0700 Joseph wrote: Are there any USB type TV / Video capture devices that works with Linux? -- #Joseph From the mythtv docs: USB Capture Devices. The Plextor ConvertX PVR devices are supported through Linux drivers available from http://www.plextor.com/english/support/LinuxSDK.htm. MythTV uses the Plextor to capture hardware encoded MPEG-4, so the host CPU requirements are low. That would do it with a bit of tweaking. All I want is to connect my Video Microscope (that has standard RCA Rack) to TV IN Card to see a live picture and be able to capture a frame. I have a ieee-1394 card and Kino application supports ieee-1394. I have as well Analog to Digital S-VHS converter. But is it possible to have a cable from S-VHS to FireWire 4 or 6pin; to connect it to ieee-1394 card? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo echo
On Thursday 23 March 2006 23:48, JimD wrote: addkey() { sudo sh -c echo $* /etc/portage/package.keywords } For keywording I prefer to use this script: http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl89966/keix It allows me to do: $ eix porth * app-portage/porthole Available versions: ~0.4.1 [M]0.5.0 Installed: none Homepage:http://porthole.sourceforge.net Description: A GTK+-based frontend to Portage Found 1 matches $ sudo keix porth Do you wish to add '=app-portage/porthole-0.4* ~x86' to package.keywords? (Yes/no) Adding '=app-portage/porthole-0.4* ~x86' to package.keywords $ Of course it requires that app-portage/eix is installed and updated. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 16:40, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] KDE version': On Tuesday 21 March 2006 22:12, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Tuesday 21 March 2006 21.13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To-day I installed kdebase using emerge kdebase. But the installed version was 3.4.3. Is it right? Did not KDE reach 3.5 version? I did not sync recently but (on my amd64 machine) emerge --pretend =kde-3.5.0 shows the package are still masked with keyword. which is quite sad - KDE 3.5.1 is out for ages! The KDE team is a bunch of weenies. :P Seriously, I think they hold package releases (even point releases) in package.mask and ~ARCH too long. HOWEVER, they are provide (IIRC) both split and monolithic ebuilds, which is quite a bit of work to get completely right. But the times, that gentoo was pretty actual in the stable tree are over. You do realize the above sentence makes no freakin' sense, right? Is this so bad with gnome too? sarcasm What's gnome? /sarcasm Just a note: KDE dev don't decide whenever it becomes to ARCH instead of ~ARCH, that is an ARCH gentoo maintainers. They are supposed to be the ARCH specialists. When they think some app is stable in their ARCH, it will be moved to ARCH from ~ARCH. But if you wanna have the latest packages, just ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~ARCH where ARCH is your computers' architecture. Maybe your system will be a little more unstable, but from my point of view, it is still stable using ~x86 (mine haven't broken yet). Bye !! Rafael Fernández López. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEI1Qc9RRlaicc3IERAt6vAJ4wk9jf6jFgzHTb9ZS1dXSLxxiWsQCcDVLJ NGm98P+IE3BgyRIIP1JWjK0= =SL08 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] resuming emerges
Hi all, I see that emerge has a resume option - but it only compiles from where the the previous emerge was stopped and when you issue a resume, it starts at the beginning of the next package to be emerged. Is it possible to get emerge to continue from where the actual compile was broken (ie. not recompile from the package beginning, but rather from within the package itself ?) I find a constant problem in that large packages take so long to compile, that I need to shutdown my laptop before an emerge is complete (to go home or whatever), and then I have to start from the beginning again.OO takes around 6 hours for me, and it seems that this would be reasonable to implement so that emerges could be resumed from the last source file where the compilation was halted ? The option should be able to ask emerge to start compiling the package without un-compressing and cleaning up the last compile I'd assume. thanks. Trevor Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] big trouble with emerge
yes mike, I had, when it was rebuild the metadata after --sync it crashs the first time. now I am in trouble with my instalation. On 3/23/06, Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/23/06, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list wise guys, I am trying to run emerge --metadata on a fresh installed gentoo box and all I am receiving is segmentation fault What Can I do, I can not emerge the rest of the systems I have to use because emerge stops with segmentation fault every time .. :( Just a silly question, but did you emerge --sync first? -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- An application asked: Requeires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE version
060324 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: KDE 3.4.3 has its bugs too.. a lot of them fixed in the 3.5 releases. 3.5.1 is not in stable, and 3.5.2 is already looming around the corner Isn't the solution to have 3 levels: 'testing', 'probation' 'stable' ? 'Testing' would be literally that, asking for feedback from users; 'probation' wb already tested for a defined period -- say 30 days -- without any bugs appearing which are likely to affect typical users; 'stable' wb firmly believed to be free of any bugs. KDE 3.5.1 would belong in 'probation' at present, 3.4.3 might be 'stable' depending on how many bugs it's known to have. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] screen flickers/static
I recently switched from fedora to gentoo, it's a dual boot system. Never in Fedora, not in windows, but in gentoo, I get screen flickers/static. It's not a hardware problem as just a little bit ago I was in windows, no problem. The connections to the monitor and so forth are fine. When I type in, for instance, this window (gmail in firefox) the screen flickers with each keystroke. Also, if I'm in the terminal window, for gnome, and type, same thing. Perhaps flicker is a bad description. To the nake eye a series of horizontal lines flash, about one or two per key stroke. The system monitor isn't showing anything out of the ordinary, low CPU usage and low memory [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ top top - 02:31:52 up 5:55, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.16, 0.15 Tasks: 74 total, 1 running, 73 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.0% us, 1.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 95.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem:223364k total, 208064k used,15300k free,11912k buffers Swap: 441776k total,0k used, 441776k free,97228k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 9752 root 15 0 58736 20m 6328 S 2.7 9.5 28:35.53 X 10747 thufir15 0 24416 12m 8616 S 1.7 5.8 0:01.45 gnome-terminal 9839 thufir15 0 17808 8984 6856 S 0.3 4.0 0:00.78 multiload-apple 10753 thufir16 0 2056 1056 816 R 0.3 0.5 0:00.02 top 1 root 16 0 1468 484 424 S 0.0 0.2 0:01.15 init 2 root RT 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 3 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 4 root RT 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 5 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.14 events/0 6 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 khelper 7 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kthread 9 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 kblockd/0 10 root 20 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 121 root 20 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 122 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 124 root 17 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 123 root 25 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date Fri Mar 24 02:31:56 GMT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thanks, Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How about ieee 1394 was:USB TV / Video capture devices
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:10:14 -0700 Joseph wrote: I have a ieee-1394 card and Kino application supports ieee-1394. I have as well Analog to Digital S-VHS converter. But is it possible to have a cable from S-VHS to FireWire 4 or 6pin; to connect it to ieee-1394 card? I am unclear what you mean here. what is a Analog to Digital S-VHS converter. I suspect it has RCA analog video in, but what comes out? is it DV (like a DV camera format)? If so I suspect you will ned up with a DV format file on your computer, not sure if you can see that live but it might in kino. emerge kino and try it. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install iplimit?
Hello, I'm still using 2.6.11-r9, but, it appears to be in yours too. From make menuconfig under the 2.6.11-r9 it is here: Device Drivers --- Networking support -- [*] Networking Support Networking options --- [*] Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains) IP: Netfilter Configuration --- m IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) m limit match support From a 2.6.15-r7 kernel: Networking --- Networking options --- [*] Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains) IP: Netfilter Configuration --- m IP tables support (required for filtering/masq/NAT) m limit match support The kernel module would be called ipt_limit in both cases. Mariusz Zalewski wrote: Hello I would like to use iplimit in my firewall. I use iptables-1.3.4 with extensions USE flag and gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1 I can't find iplimit module in that kernel: # grep -i iplimit /usr/src/linux/.confg {none} How to install iplimit on my server? What should I do? Maybe there is other module, that can restrict number of connections from define IP address? P.S. Sorry about crosspost - I've send this message few days ago to gentoo-security mail list, but nobody reply. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list