[gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
Hello security gurus, this one's for you: After shutdown, is it possible to recover the data stored on the Random Access Memory? Be it an ancient mounted ramdisk, a tmpfs mount point or normal data kept in memory by programs. In many ressources on the net (the Gentoo Wiki and Forums, other

Re: [gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g

2007-10-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 07:49 +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: On 10/4/07, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using ntfs-3g w/o issues. I'm not using in-kernel fuse modules though. I'm compiling it from the version in portage Same here, and it works OK so far. hey, stop answering, this

[gentoo-user] Re: To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g

2007-10-04 Thread Alexander Skwar
Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil, back on 15 July, you stated that you used ntfs-3g with only the in-kernel fuse modules. That's what I'm doing as well. When I try that, I get the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared

Re: [gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g

2007-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello Iain Buchanan, hey, stop answering, this was to Neil! Hey! ! was asleep! :) As Alexander has already posted, you still need sys-fs/fuse to provide the libraries, but it defers to the kernel for the modules (which saves rebuilding it each time you change the kernel). -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild

2007-10-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:37:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote: An emerge (of openssl, I believe, but am not sure) a few days ago triggered a request for me to run # revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7 # revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.7 I have done so. The revdep-rebuild for

Re: [gentoo-user] undefined reference to `LINUX_TARGET_OS_CPP_BUILTINS'

2007-10-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 23:55:49 Robert Szentmihalyi wrote: Building gcc for ARM with # crossdev --target arm-softfloat-uclinux-gnu Which means the you are more likely to get help on the gentoo-embedded mailing list. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

[gentoo-user] Traveling: DSL modem via USB?

2007-10-04 Thread Grant
I'm currently traveling with my laptop and I can get it online if I can make it work with the DrayTek Vigor 318 DSL modem that is available where I am. Should that be do-able? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-user] XFCE automounting pendrive

2007-10-04 Thread Alfredo Perez
Hi I was wondering what I can do to make XFCE to automount my pendrive. I followed this wiki http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman to the last word but still I can't have the my pendrive mounted. I put an entry in /etc/fstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat defaults 0 0 and the pendrive gets mounted but as

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE automounting pendrive

2007-10-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 05:32:47 -0400 (EDT), Alfredo Perez wrote: I was wondering what I can do to make XFCE to automount my pendrive. I followed this wiki http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman to the last word but still I can't have the my pendrive mounted. I don't think you did... I put an entry

Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE automounting pendrive

2007-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
Hello, I was also playing with ivman for a long time till accidentally I stumbled upon this: http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-volman/index.html. Here's the minimalistic Wikipedia entry (copy and paste) that I've made: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_thunar-volman. This is a

Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild SOLVED

2007-10-04 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:31:57 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:37:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote: An emerge (of openssl, I believe, but am not sure) a few days ago triggered a request for me to run # revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7 #

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: And later on: Now one problem is left. Even with normal RAM a well funded organisation can get the contents after the system is powered off. With the modern SDRAM it's even worse, where the data stays on the RAM permanently until new data is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lilo ReiserFS on 64 bits

2007-10-04 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:42:58 -0500 Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another great thing about grub is that it has a limited command mode that you can enter at boot time. If your grub config contains a typo or error, you can still boot the computer without reaching for a CD. And,

Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild SOLVED

2007-10-04 Thread Norman Rieß
Allan Gottlieb schrieb: At Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:31:57 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:37:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote: An emerge (of openssl, I believe, but am not sure) a few days ago triggered a request for me to run # revdep-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:47:53 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: And later on: Now one problem is left. Even with normal RAM a well funded organisation can get the contents after the system is powered off. With the modern

Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild SOLVED

2007-10-04 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 04 October 2007 16:07:16 Norman Rieß wrote: It also told you to remove lib{crypto,ssl}.so.0.9.7 after running those revdep-rebuild commands. [SNIP] There was no remove command It used to tell you. ;) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159245 -- Bo Andresen

Re: [gentoo-user] Traveling: DSL modem via USB?

2007-10-04 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:09:39 +0200 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently traveling with my laptop and I can get it online if I can make it work with the DrayTek Vigor 318 DSL modem that is available where I am. Should that be do-able? - Grant good news grant; looks like you might

Re: [gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-04 Thread Harley Peters
purple wrote: On 10/3/07, *Harley Peters* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers? there's really _no need_ for you to star using new X at this time because of

Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild SOLVED

2007-10-04 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:07:16 +0200 Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Gottlieb schrieb: As always Bo's reply solved the problem completely. I apologize for missing the remove commands. I shall read the instructions more carefully in the future. thank for the help. allan gottlieb

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:47:53 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: And later on: Now one problem is left. Even with normal RAM a well funded organisation can get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/4/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in practice, the ram has to refreshed every few cycles (on reason why it is slow) because it is loosing its load so fast. In practice, after power is cut, everything in ram is lost. But not the stuff in swap Considering that swap

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:47:53 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: And later on: Now one problem is left. Even with normal RAM a well funded organisation can get the

[gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Hello people, i am having a little trouble with grub. I've just installed a gentoo x86 (with intention of making it our first Gentoo powered server :D) and after the install i get the error: root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Don Jerman
On 10/4/07, Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 try: kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-gengenkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 why: /boot is where you mount (hd0,0) while gentoo is running, but while grub is running

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: On 10/4/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in practice, the ram has to refreshed every few cycles (on reason why it is slow) because it is loosing its load so fast. In practice, after power is cut, everything in ram is

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Dale
Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello people, i am having a little trouble with grub. I've just installed a gentoo x86 (with intention of making it our first Gentoo powered server :D) and after the install i get the error: root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Tapio Raevaara
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello people, i am having a little trouble with grub. I've just installed a gentoo x86 (with intention of making it our first Gentoo powered server :D) and after the install i get the error: root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs,

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/4/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that swap is encrypted, is it realistic for this lost RAM data to be recovered? Again, take the case of a well funded organization. that depends on the encryption. Some algorithms are easy to break. Some are not, some

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 10/4/07, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: [..] However, it makes sense to clean up memory after having critical data in it -- e.g. a reboot doesn't necessarily clean up RAM. [..] Yes, this is very true BUT On 10/4/07,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Tapio Raevaara
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Don Jerman wrote: On 10/4/07, Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 try: kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-gengenkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 why: /boot is where you mount (hd0,0)

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Rafael Barrera Oro
Replacing /boot/ for (hd0,0) worked perfectly, ¡thanks a million! take care Rafael 2007/10/4, Tapio Raevaara [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 04 October 2007, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello people, i am having a little trouble with grub. I've just installed a gentoo x86 (with intention of

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Randy Barlow
Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: In theory, for the one transistor and one cap case, you have a loaded cap that will take forever losing its load, won't it? But in practice, I think, that's not realistic. It's actually not theory vs. practice. Even in theory, it's not just a cap, it's a cap and a

[gentoo-user] Bugday on Saturday!

2007-10-04 Thread Peter Weller
Yes, that's right, next Saturday is the first of the month, so it's Bugday! Come along to #gentoo-bugs and help out with killing the bugs listed on http:///bugday.gentoo.org! If anyone has got any suggestions for new bug additions, email them to me by tomorrow, and I will update the site for

Re: [gentoo-user] Standby

2007-10-04 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:06:32 +0930 Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 15:51 +0100, Paul Gibbons wrote: [snip] I have in the passed got to the point that pressing the power button shut the system down and added an entry into my grub menu.lst of: [snip]

Re: [gentoo-user] To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g

2007-10-04 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Iain Buchanan, hey, stop answering, this was to Neil! Hey! ! was asleep! :) As Alexander has already posted, you still need sys-fs/fuse to provide the libraries, but it defers to the kernel for the modules (which saves rebuilding it each time you

Re: [gentoo-user] Can RAM render useless the encryption of the / and swap partitions?

2007-10-04 Thread Mick
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007, Liviu Andronic wrote: On 10/4/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in practice, the ram has to refreshed every few cycles (on reason why it is slow) because it is loosing its load so

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Mick
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Rafael Barrera Oro wrote: Hello people, i am having a little trouble with grub. I've just installed a gentoo x86 (with intention of making it our first Gentoo powered server :D) and after the install i get the error: root (hd0,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs,

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Tapio Raevaara
On Friday 05 October 2007, Neil Walker wrote: If /boot is on a seperate partition, the /boot/boot symlink never gets created - or at least not in the correct place - unless you are aware of the problem and take steps to correct it. That is one reason why I do not advocate creating a seperate

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Neil Walker
Tapio Raevaara wrote: try: kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-gengenkernel-x86-2.6.22-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/hdb3 why: /boot is where you mount (hd0,0) while gentoo is running, but while grub is running you're starting from the boot partition's filesystem root. Easy mistake, I do it all the time when I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] grub problem

2007-10-04 Thread Neil Walker
Tapio Raevaara wrote: Weird, as far as I remember, I've always had the correct symlink and boot on a separate partition... No matter, thanks a lot for the explanation, that pretty much clears it up! Just to explain a little further, the stage file creates /boot and /boot/boot. Thats fine

Re: [gentoo-user] Bugday on Saturday!

2007-10-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 21:08 +0100, Peter Weller wrote: Yes, that's right, next Saturday is the first of the month, so it's Bugday! Come along to #gentoo-bugs and help out with killing the bugs listed on http:///bugday.gentoo.org! cool! If anyone has got any suggestions for new bug additions,

Re: [gentoo-user] Bugday on Saturday!

2007-10-04 Thread Iain Buchanan
whoops sorry, didn't mean to send that to the list :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Neglect of duty does not cease, by repetition, to be neglect of duty. -- Napoleon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?

2007-10-04 Thread »Q«
Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:17:46 -0400 Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers? On a related note, I'm one of those guys with one of those old old