Re: [gentoo-user] DNAT not working

2008-01-19 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
In [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan McKinnon) writes:

On Friday 18 January 2008, Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
 xt_tcpudp is the difference as it seems

 verified it that was the problem. For whatever reason I forgot to
 configure module autoloading into the kernel.

Perhaps you used an old .config and that option name has changed?
Actually quite the opposite. This machine was set up rather fresh. I think
this is deactivated after a fresh install of gentoo-sources and make 
menuconfig.

Konstantin



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge apache

2008-01-19 Thread Roman Zilka
Hi Mike!

 g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtbeginS.o: No such file or 
 directory
 g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtendS.o: No such file or directory

i486 - this is kinda weird for a brand new box. What's does your
'emerge --info' look like? Maybe you've got a wrong CHOST set up. What
does 'ls /usr/lib/gcc/*/*/crt*S.o' report (just to be sure)? Are you
able to emerge any other packages?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge apache

2008-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Mike Diehl wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm building a new machine and I'm having trouble getting apache to
 emerge.

 This is a BRAND NEW BOX, with nothing else done to it, so I expected
 apache to load just fine.

 Here is the error message I'm getting.  Any help would be
 appreciated. Mike.

 -
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 g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtbeginS.o: No such file
 or directory

The equivalent file here (i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.2.2/) was installed by gcc

What settings are you using for gcc? And any special reason you have an 
i486 compiler?

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Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:

 I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,

How? Have you run memtest?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been using Gentoo for about 4 or 5 years now.  I to think Gentoo
 has well, lost its way.  It seems like a bunch of teenagers is running
 it sometimes.  They decide something then go back a few steps when they
 don't like the results.  

ACK. I also have this bad feeling :(
Even w/o looking deeper into the system, just as an normal user's
view, it became worse in recent years. Lots of conflicts, breaks,
feature deps/conflicts, etc. The amount of necessary hand-work 
and the need to overlay really increased at my site in recent years.

Part of the problmem might be too many quick+dirty hacks, another
part's the philosophy of taking evrything as it comes from the 
upstream. It's not trivial to get out of this ;-o

One little step out could be the OSS-QM project (http://oss-qm.metux.de/)
It collects fixes for a lot packages and makes them accessible in 100% 
automated ways. So in a way it can be seen as an kind of overlay against 
the upstream. Most of the patches are things that upstream's tend to forget 
but importand for fully automated builds (eg. proper relocation, clean 
feature switching, fixing buildfiles, pkg-config, etc) - they do NOT harm 
the core functionality. So exactly what the vast majority of distro's 
patches do, but in generic (distro agnostic) ways.

In recent years, I've announced this several times, but nobody really
interested in it. Maybe now the right time had come ? ;-o

 Users seems to be the last thing on the higher ups mind.  

Yes, I also had such feelings when I was around @ -dev:
It seemed I was disliked, since I was questioning some common dev
practices and no being an official dev by myself, and I never would
be allowed to become one, since I was disliked ;-O
(So I left -dev and focused on my own overlay - not caring about 
the devs anymore).

 I love my Gentoo but I would like to see someone step up and get some
 things done and some decisions made, even those we may never know about.

Actually, I don't think it's just some strong leader missing, but
an lack of discusion culture between devs and plain users.
I'd see the role of Gentoo leaders more in an diplomatic mission than
actual decision making.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 'Lock Sesson' does nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Stroller


On 18 Jan 2008, at 19:45, James wrote:


I/ve tried rebuilding all sorts of stuff. Nothing
get's this working again, in the kde pull down menu.

Any ideas what to rebuild?
revdep-rebuild is clean.


I don't use KDE much, so please forgive me if I'm barking up the  
wrong tree here, but couldn't this be caused by an incorrect  
configuration? I would create a new user  see if it works for them.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge apache

2008-01-19 Thread Kevin
Mike Diehl wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm building a new machine and I'm having trouble getting apache to emerge.
 
 This is a BRAND NEW BOX, with nothing else done to it, so I expected apache 
 to 
 load just fine.
 
 Here is the error message I'm getting.  Any help would be appreciated.
 Mike.
 
 ---
 
 g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtbeginS.o: No such file or 
 directory
 g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtendS.o: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [libapr-1.la] Error 1
g'.
 

Mike, also post the output of gcc-config -l (along with emerge --info
that was previously recommended).  I would really fix the 486 compiler
issue before proceeding any further with your new box.
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Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

2008-01-19 Thread Hal Martin
An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might
add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots
with the new RAM only.

Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many
BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any.
I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it
tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.


-Hal


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 On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:

   
 I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
 

 How? Have you run memtest?


   

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[gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?]

2008-01-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 4. Formalize a process where others (non devs) can build, store and 
 maintain ebuilds that are not blessed by the devs, so individuals
 can easily share their work with the larger Gentoo community.

Isn't this what several overlay projects (eg. Sunrise) are meant for ?
IMHO, Sunrise suffers from it's size - lot's of smaller overlays 
could be the way to go. Maybe differenciate between bleeding-edge
and production overlays ?

AFAIK, the current overlay technique could be improved to make
using *dozens* of overlays much easier. Some points I'm missing:
per-overlay masking direct overlay selection when emerging.

I'm using several overlays and I'd like to have exact control
where specific ebuilds come from on updates. For example I have
to change a few ebuilds from the main tree and take care that
nothing get mixed up - updates from the main tree should not 
override older versions from my overlay, but I need to be 
informed about them.

 If one choses such and ebuild there on their own. The gentoo devs 
 should develop a semantic where folks not officially part of the 
 devs can maintain a package or two, rather than making ebuilds for 
 obsolescence, unilaterally.

Maybe a combination of overlays and proxy maintenance ?

 6. Provide resources to the gentoo-embedded group to assist them
 in their efforts to assimilate embedded-gentoo into gentoo
 so that lots of ordinary users can build and experiment with
 embedded gentoo. 

Actually, as an embedded guy, I don't think that Gentoo (with it's
current models) is really suitable for embedded systems (- small 
devices, exotic platforms, ...). The concepts are fundamental 
opposite. For example, if you're not always crosscompiling within
sysroot, you're seriously wrong for embedded systems ;-P

I really doubt that it's really worth trying to make (current)
Gentoo suitable for embedded systems, as major concepts are 
opposite and it would cause us big headache. 

BUT: I really think that an major distro like Gentoo should 
cooperate with embedded folks in an meta project like OSS-QM.
For example, most of the collected patches could be a bit more
generalized and then go to OSS-QM, while Gentoo could get it's
directly from there.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Once again baffled by portage

2008-01-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 18 January 2008 15:36:29 Alan McKinnon wrote:
   Roll on KDE4 when this monolithic nonsense will go away and there
   will only be -meta ebuilds.
 
  Actually it was decided to keep monolithics in KDE 4.0.0. Splits are
  now the default which means they are listed first in any-of
  dependency blocks such as e.g. || ( kde-base/kompare:kde-4
  kde-base/kdesdk:kde-4 ) in KDE 4. But monos are still around. There
  is a list of the monos in the url I posted in another mail to this
  thread.

 Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Obviously my most current info is
 out of date.

 But why was that decision taken? I understand keeping it for kde-3.5.x
 users, but kde-4 is essentially an entirely different product, and
 the -meta ebuilds do everything the monolithic ones ever did. The
 configure steps do add time though, but other than that everything
 seems to work the same

Well, it wasn't really my decision. ;) But I can say that a pro is that it 
provides the users with a choice and the maintainance overhead when compared 
to only doing splits isn't really all that big. The only real con in my 
opinion is that it confuses those who haven't read the kde-split document 
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde 'Lock Sesson' does nothing

2008-01-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
I went through something similar once. KDE informed me there was no greeter
configured. So it simply refused to lock the session. I then did something
about gdm (yep, even though I use KDE I prefer gdm) and it started working.
:-)

On 1/19/08, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 18 Jan 2008, at 19:45, James wrote:
 
  I/ve tried rebuilding all sorts of stuff. Nothing
  get's this working again, in the kde pull down menu.
 
  Any ideas what to rebuild?
  revdep-rebuild is clean.

 I don't use KDE much, so please forgive me if I'm barking up the
 wrong tree here, but couldn't this be caused by an incorrect
 configuration? I would create a new user  see if it works for them.

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[gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask 
for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me:
[blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking 
kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)

I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot 
unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?

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[gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?]

2008-01-19 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 that is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this list. So users 
 should never be part of discussions? Their needs? Their opinions?

well, that's what essentially told to me on -dev before I left there ;-O

Maybe it's just an communication problem: devs are usually people who have 
much deeper knowledge of the whole system (or maybe just their packages) 
and also different needs than arbitary users. The tendencies of chasing 
away users might be an kind of self-protection against the more (end)user 
friendly points of view found in other distros (eg. SuSE).

 Also, drobbins continued his attacks even after explained SEVERAL times that
 the stuff ciaranm was doing was a) wanted and b) helpfull and c) supervised 
 by devs. 

Without knowing the details, both parties might have their (subjectively)
valid reasons (speaking of the ideas/concepts, not the way they've been
expressed ;-o). Maybe the whole project should be more modularized, so forking 
becomes much easier and still doesn't produce too much duplicate works.

A few ideas:

* bugfixing on individual packages should happen directly in the upstream
  (maybe with OSS-QM as source overlay), not in Gentoo itself.
* package's build/install logic should be entirely moved into the package
  (so that ebuilds mostly do nothing more than calling the package's 
  build system)
* the QM process could be split into several parts: 
a) per-package (distro agnostic)
b) per ebuild (aka the package w/ portage)
c) the ebuild within (official) Gentoo

On a quick view this looks like a lot more work, but in longer terms it 
would reduce the overall work (including dozens of other distros around
the world).


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote:
 Hi folks,

 after the painful and time-consuming creation of /etc/portage/package.unmask 
 for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me:
 [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking 
 kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)

 I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I cannot 
 unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?

 Uwe

   

For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.

Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
you want to log into?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Δημήτριος Ροπόκης

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Uwe Thiem wrote:

Hi folks,

after the painful and time-consuming creation of  
/etc/portage/package.unmask
for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells  
me:

[blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)

I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I  
cannot

unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?

Uwe




For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.

Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
you want to log into?

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Paul Salters
On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Uwe Thiem wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  after the painful and time-consuming creation of
  /etc/portage/package.unmask
  for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells
  me:
  [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
  kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
 
  I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
  cannot
  unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?
 
  Uwe
 
  For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
  other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.
 
  Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
  have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
  slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
  you want to log into?
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)

 Autounmask looks to work,
 but some packets with ~86 I think need manual check.

hi,

you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that.
should work :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote:
 Uwe Thiem wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  after the painful and time-consuming creation of
  /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose
  =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ]
  kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
  kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
 
  I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
  cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?
 
  Uwe

 For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
 other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.

I'll have look into autounmask.


 Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
 have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
 slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
 you want to log into?

Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here) 
blocking kdelibs-4.0.0?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking 
 kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
 
 I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
 cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?

It's 3.5.7, do you have an older version lying around, as well as 3.5.8?
Or it something else trying to pull it in, what does --tree tell you?


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Uwe Thiem wrote:


 ???

 According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my 
 original post.

 Uwe

   

I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least
3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0.  Again, I have NO CLUE why.  My
question if this is true, what if you never had KDE installed to begin
with?  Then what?  Install the old one then upgrade?  Something fishy.

I also read where there is a issue or two with regard to qt.  May want
to get your boots on for that too. 

Confused.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008 16:52:45 Δημήτριος Ροπόκης wrote:
  On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:42:55 +0200, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Uwe Thiem wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   after the painful and time-consuming creation of
   /etc/portage/package.unmask
   for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0
   tells me:
   [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
   kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
  
   I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
   cannot
   unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?
  
   Uwe
  
   For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
   other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.
  
   Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
   have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
   slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
   you want to log into?
  
   Dale
  
   :-)  :-)
 
  Autounmask looks to work,
  but some packets with ~86 I think need manual check.

 hi,

 you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that.
 should work :)

???

According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my 
original post.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Juul
Uwe Thiem schreef:
 On 19 January 2008, Paul Salters wrote:
   
 hi,

 you need to unmask kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 and emerge that.
 should work :)
 

 ???

 According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my 
 original post.
   
It is blocking older versions 3.5.7-r6. Upgrade to 3.5.7-r6 and the
block will be gone.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:32:13 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  [blocks B ] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
  kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
 
  I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
  cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?

 It's 3.5.7, do you have an older version lying around, as well as 3.5.8?
 Or it something else trying to pull it in, what does --tree tell you?

Oh, gawd! I completely missed the . =8-O

Yes, I do have some older versions of KDE lying around. Alright, some unmerge 
to be done.

BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever visit 
Namibia. ;-)

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Online bookmark keeper with good merge routine

2008-01-19 Thread reader
A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been using sitebar as my online bookmark keeper for quite a while
 but seem to have trouble merging in new bookmarks from multiple
 machines ... what is supposed to be a merge turns into a replace
 operation or so it seems .. but not always.

 What about Google Browser Sync?

 http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/

What about across browsers other than firefox?  Like Konqueror or
opera.

Anyone with experiece using some online bookmark manager that stores
and merges bookmarks regardless of what browser is in use?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you ever
 visit Namibia. ;-)

I may just take you up on that ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote:
 Uwe Thiem wrote:
  ???
 
  According to emerge, kdebase-3.5.7-r6 is *blocking* kdelibs-4.0.0. See my
  original post.
 
  Uwe

 I can't find it but I read somewhere that portage wants at least
 3.5.8-r2 or better to install 4.0.  Again, I have NO CLUE why.  My
 question if this is true, what if you never had KDE installed to begin
 with?  Then what?  Install the old one then upgrade?  Something fishy.

 I also read where there is a issue or two with regard to qt.  May want
 to get your boots on for that too.

 Confused.

Read Neil's reply. He hit the nail on the finger.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you
  ever visit Namibia. ;-)

 I may just take you up on that ;-)

Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uwe is offering 
you the good stuff. And Hansa draught is the very very very good 
stuff :-)

It's so good that we can hardly ever get it a mere 1000km away :-(

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[REALLY OT] [BEER] Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman

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[gentoo-user] Gnome + Kile and Deadkeys

2008-01-19 Thread Leandro Sales
Hi there,
   I use gnome, but I installed kile to use it from gnome. I'm
Brazilian and my idiom (Portuguese) has deadkeys, such as ç, á, ó, ...
All deadkeys works fine for gnome applications, but inside kile it's
not work. Does anyone have a clue to solve this issue? thanks.

Leandro.
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[gentoo-user] xorg / keyboard

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

somehow I have messed up my xorg configuration. The block of sic buttons 
from Insert to Page Down and the four separate3 arrow key (up, left, 
down, right) don't work or don't work as expected. For example, up invokes 
ksnapshot, the others don't do anything. My keyboard is a US 104 buttons 
keyboard.

The relevant section in my xorg.conf looks like this:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Keyboard0
Driver  kbd
Option  XkbModel pc104
Option  XkbLayout us
EndSection


When X starts up, it first says:

(**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: xorg
(**) Option XkbModel pc104
(**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: pc104
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: us
(**) Option CustomKeycodes off
(**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
(II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)


It says later:

(II) evdev brain: Rescanning devices (2).
(**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: always reports core 
events
(**) Option XkbModel evdev
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device AT Translated Set 2 
keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0 (type: KEYBOARD)
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: Init
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: On
(II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: Off


So it seems to me, it overwrites my settings.

Should I disable evdev? How?

Should I do something else?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 19 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:39:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
   BIG thanks! And a Hansa draught will be ready for you if you
   ever visit Namibia. ;-)
 
  I may just take you up on that ;-)

 Neil, print that mail off and keep it in a safe place, Uwe is offering
 you the good stuff. And Hansa draught is the very very very good
 stuff :-)

 It's so good that we can hardly ever get it a mere 1000km away :-(

@Alan:
Drive to Hermanus, they have it there. ;-)

The best beer in my book is Pilsener Urquell. Unfortunately, South African 
Breweries (SAB) has bought the brewery over there. I can't tell a decline in 
quality yet, but a friend of mine, a brewer at Namibia Breweries, tells me 
they can measure it already.

In the long run, SAB will fuck Pilsener Urquell like they have fucked the beer 
of every brewery they have bought. I have been told, though, that there are 
quite some micro-breweries in South Africa that still make good stuff.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] xorg / keyboard

2008-01-19 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Hi,

You have hal-0.5.10 installed and it's hotplugging devices. To disable 
hotplugging, put
Option AutoAddDevices false
in Section ServerFlags. Or switch in X to an evdev keyboard layout, since it 
overrides your xorg.conf settings.


Sascha



Am Samstag 19 Januar 2008 19:52:09 schrieb Uwe Thiem:
 Hi folks,

 somehow I have messed up my xorg configuration. The block of sic buttons
 from Insert to Page Down and the four separate3 arrow key (up, left,
 down, right) don't work or don't work as expected. For example, up
 invokes ksnapshot, the others don't do anything. My keyboard is a US 104
 buttons keyboard.

 The relevant section in my xorg.conf looks like this:

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Keyboard0
 Driver  kbd
 Option  XkbModel pc104
 Option  XkbLayout us
 EndSection


 When X starts up, it first says:

 (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: xorg
 (**) Option XkbModel pc104
 (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: pc104
 (**) Option XkbLayout us
 (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: us
 (**) Option CustomKeycodes off
 (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled
 (II) evaluating device (Keyboard0)
 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Keyboard0 (type: KEYBOARD)


 It says later:

 (II) evdev brain: Rescanning devices (2).
 (**) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: always reports
 core events
 (**) Option XkbModel evdev
 (**) Option XkbLayout us
 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device AT Translated Set 2
 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0 (type: KEYBOARD)
 (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: Init
 (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: On
 (II) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard-isa0060/serio0/input0: Off


 So it seems to me, it overwrites my settings.

 Should I disable evdev? How?

 Should I do something else?

 Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Quo vadis Gentoo [WAS: Daniel Robbins' come back ?]

2008-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

  that is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this list. So users
  should never be part of discussions? Their needs? Their opinions?

 well, that's what essentially told to me on -dev before I left there ;-O

was it our great releng 'boss' Chris G.?

There are lots of very nice devs - and then there is this certain person...

but other distros have their abusive people too. Just ask debians ... 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote:
  Uwe Thiem wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   after the painful and time-consuming creation of
   /etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose
   =kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ]
   kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
   kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
  
   I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
   cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?
  
   Uwe
 
  For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
  other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.

 I'll have look into autounmask.

  Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
  have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
  slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
  you want to log into?

 Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here)
 blocking kdelibs-4.0.0?


error in ebuild?
I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the 
ebuild.

Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h (with 
qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4 problem...

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[gentoo-user] Perl packages polluting root directory

2008-01-19 Thread Daniel D Jones
In the recent KDE4 thread, someone mentioned autounmask.  I emerge the package 
and tried to run it.  I got the following error:

Can't locate PortageXS.pm in @INC (@INC contains: .

PortageXS was listed as installed but I emerged it again.  Still getting the 
same error, I ran locate PortageXS.pm.  Locate found it.  In the root 
directory of my drive.  My root directory now looks like this:

root  / # ls -l
total 153
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:39 Class
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:40 PortageXS
-r--r--r--  1 root root  2965 Jan 19 14:48 PortageXS.pm
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:40 Shell
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:38 Sys
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:38 Term
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jan 14 19:11 Test
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root  4096 Jan 14 19:11 YAML
-r--r--r--  1 root root 23904 Jan 14 19:11 YAML.pm
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:40 auto
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jan 12 15:40 bin
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root  1024 Nov  2 06:48 boot
drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 14180 Jan 18 15:40 dev
drwxr-xr-x 73 root root  4096 Jan 19 14:48 etc
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Sep  2 05:02 home
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 5 Nov  1 21:09 lib - lib64
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Jan  4 19:06 lib32
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root  4096 Jan  2 19:32 lib64
drwx--  2 root root 16384 Sep  1 17:29 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root  4096 Sep 18 19:40 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 12 root root  4096 Dec 14 20:00 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 99 root root 0 Jan 18 12:49 proc
drwx-- 17 root root  4096 Jan 18 15:56 root
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jan 12 15:40 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 0 Jan 18 12:49 sys
drwxrwxrwt 19 root root 12288 Jan 19 14:47 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  4096 Nov 27 07:52 usr
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  4096 Sep  2 06:28 var
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 10431 Jan 14 19:11 ysh
-r--r--r--  1 root root  7352 Jan 14 19:11 ysh.1

One thing which may have contributed to this is that I recently downloaded and 
installed Perl v 5.10.0.  (I'm doing some Perl work which required the new 
version.)  Anyone have a clue as to what might be screwed up on my system?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Net / dhcp (miss)behaviour

2008-01-19 Thread Marko Kocić
 I wonder if my similar problem is related to what you report here:  I am using
 dhcpcd and ifplug with my ADSL router, which acts as the dhcp server on my
 LAN.  For some reason ifplug does not always manage to get an IP address from
 the router and I end up with an APIPA address.  /etc/init.d/net.eth0
 stop/start gets it going again.  This problem only occurs if I disconnect and
 then reconnect the ethernet cable.  No such problem exists when I boot the
 machine with the cable already connected to the NIC.  I haven't changed
 timeouts or anything else from the dhcpcd defaults.  I have always attributed
 this problem to a somewhat slow dhcp server on the router.

It is similar, with a difference that /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart
doesn't help. I tried
enlarging timeout but with no help.


 As a note:  WinXP machines do not have any such problem.  Even though they may
 end up with a APIPA address, they will in minute or so drop it and acquire a
 10.10.10.XXX domain address from the router.  dhcpcpd does not seem to have
 this flexibility.

I noticed that in most cases after I boot to windows, when I reboot
back to linux I can't connect.
When I reboot back to windows, net is up.

When it fails I noticed that it send DHCP requests, but doesn't get a response.

I tried dhclient, dhcpd and pump, and the results are allways the
same. It happens in the evenings, when internet traffic is high.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Very OT] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 @Alan:
 Drive to Hermanus, they have it there. ;-)

 The best beer in my book is Pilsener Urquell. Unfortunately, South
 African Breweries (SAB) has bought the brewery over there. I can't
 tell a decline in quality yet, but a friend of mine, a brewer at
 Namibia Breweries, tells me they can measure it already.

Can't stand the stuff myself. Fizzy. Like lemonade

 In the long run, SAB will fuck Pilsener Urquell like they have fucked
 the beer of every brewery they have bought. 

Except Miller's. That was already a complete cock-up and SAB didn't have 
to change anything to meet QA standards :-)

 I have been told, though, 
 that there are quite some micro-breweries in South Africa that still
 make good stuff.

And most of them come from Namibia! I rather like Windhoek.

Heineken, English ales and of course Guinness top my list. I won't even 
mention the real German stuff as it's practically unavailable - doesn't 
survive the trip out here well.



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Re: [gentoo-user] No kernel boot after inserting more ram

2008-01-19 Thread José Pedro Saraiva
Following your replies I've done the following, in an attempt to isolate the
problem:
(memory #1 - old memory, memory #2 - new memory)

- Runned memtest on both memories with 0 errors
- Booted with both memories... kernel hang
- Booted with memory #1 on slot #1 successfully
- Booted with memory #1 on slot #2 successfully
- Booted with memory #2 on slot #1 successfully
- Booted with memory #2 on slot #2 successfully
- Booted with both memories on windows successfully

For some reason, my kernel hangs if I have 2 GB of RAM installed.
And I do have High memory support (4GB), although that doesn't seem
relevant.
Ideas? :X

Thank you all for the quick replies.
Cheers

On Jan 19, 2008 2:29 PM, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 An alternative to running memtest (which is quite easy to do, I might
 add) would be to remove the original RAM and see if the computer boots
 with the new RAM only.

 Alternatively, you could just run memtest, as it is included with many
 BIOSs now. It doesn't take long to identify problems, if there are any.
 I find that test #5 is the best test for finding problems, however it
 tends to keep you in the dark until it's finished the test.


 -Hal


 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:58:59 +, José Pedro Saraiva wrote:
 
 
  I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the RAM,
 
 
  How? Have you run memtest?
 
 
 

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[gentoo-user] Cowon iAudio u5

2008-01-19 Thread b.n.
(I crosspost it here from the forums because I have no answers there...)

Hi,
I'm considering buying this mp3 player:
http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/u5/#specs

What I don't understand, is if it's Gentoo-friendly. Cowon x5 and i7
units, apart from being high quality players, used to be very
Linux-friendly AFAIK, and they even nicely support Ogg Vorbis audio.
However the x5 is discontinued and the i7 looks a bit too costly for me.

The u5 seems nice, unfortunately it doesn't support Ogg, but apart from
it looks cool. However it says:

Supports Windows Media DRM 10, MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)
[...]
USB Data Transfer Support for MAC OS (9.X, 10.X) and Linux (v2.2 and higher)

From the PDF manual it seems to be nice, in the meaning that you can
just drag-and-drop mp3 files like on a USB drive, and it will play them.
But if it's so, why it talks about MTP and Windows DRM (brrr!) ?
Basically, I don't want to find myself with an Ipod-like brick where I
can copy files on, but won't play them.

Is some Gentooer using the iAudio u5? What do you advise me to look for
in understanding this issue?

Thanks,
m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge apache

2008-01-19 Thread Mike Diehl
On Saturday 19 January 2008 03:12:23 am Roman Zilka wrote:
 Hi Mike!

  g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtbeginS.o: No such file or
  directory
  g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/crtendS.o: No such file or
  directory

 i486 - this is kinda weird for a brand new box.

Ya, very weird.  Here is what I've got in /etc/make.conf:
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
MAKEOPTS=-j2

USE=-acl -cups -dri -fortran -gpm -iconv -ipv6 -isdnlog -midi -mudflap -nls
 -openmp -pppd -reflection -session -tcpd -truetype-fonts -type1-fonts
 -unicode -xorg

Seems rational to me.  The box is going to be a stripped-down server.

 What's does your 
 'emerge --info' look like? 
 Maybe you've got a wrong CHOST set up. What 
 does 'ls /usr/lib/gcc/*/*/crt*S.o' report (just to be sure)? Are you
 able to emerge any other packages?

 -rz

 # gcc-config  -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *

# ls /usr/lib/gcc/*/*/crt*S.o
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtbeginS.o  
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/crtendS.o
  
It almost seems like it might be easier to start over  What do you think?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cowon iAudio u5

2008-01-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 01:10:22AM +0100, Penguin Lover b.n. squawked:
 Hi,
 I'm considering buying this mp3 player:
 http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/u5/#specs

The best chance you'll get an answer is probably from the Cowon
forums. I own a JetAudio M3, and it is extremely linux friendly. 

 The u5 seems nice, unfortunately it doesn't support Ogg, but apart from
 it looks cool. However it says:
 
 Supports Windows Media DRM 10, MTP (Media Transfer Protocol)
 [...]
 USB Data Transfer Support for MAC OS (9.X, 10.X) and Linux (v2.2 and higher)
 

My guess for the DRM: it supports playback of files with Windows Media
DRM (which, AFAIK, cannot be played on linux.) I don't know what the
Media Transfor Protocol is.

The Cowon iAudio in general has very good history that they can be
used as just a removable USB disk with the VFAT driver. 

Best, 

  W

 Is some Gentooer using the iAudio u5? What do you advise me to look for
 in understanding this issue?
 
 Thanks,
 m.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ?

2008-01-19 Thread reader
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Part of the problmem might be too many quick+dirty hacks, another
 part's the philosophy of taking evrything as it comes from the 
 upstream. It's not trivial to get out of this ;-o

First off, your comments seem to be some of the more sensible here.
Not that others are senseless just not much actual `what to do'
content has come through.

I'd hazard a guess that you may have hit a bigger problem than your
comment indicates.  I'm pretty sure there would be great pressure to
use `quick and dirty hacks' to get stuff done when devs are nearly
always overworked.

 One little step out could be the OSS-QM project (http://oss-qm.metux.de/)
 It collects fixes for a lot packages and makes them accessible in 100% 
 automated ways. So in a way it can be seen as an kind of overlay against 
 the upstream. Most of the patches are things that upstream's tend to forget 
 but importand for fully automated builds (eg. proper relocation, clean 
 feature switching, fixing buildfiles, pkg-config, etc) - they do NOT harm 
 the core functionality. So exactly what the vast majority of distro's 
 patches do, but in generic (distro agnostic) ways.

The theory sounds very sensible.
After looking at that page and some of the links briefly it wasn't
clear to me where this is being used.  I see a very short list of pkgs
being worked on.. and guessing it is because of being short handed
there. 

But what wasn't clear is how work comes in and where it goes when it
goes out.

Are some distros offering these overhauled pkgs or what?
(Please excuse me if I'm missing obvious things on the pages)

PS-The `help' link under `navigation' brings up what appears to be
something it is not intended to, and may even be a hack on those pages
or something.  (The content that comes up may even be sort of off the
wall.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Samstag, 19. Januar 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote:
  On 19 January 2008, Dale wrote:
   Uwe Thiem wrote:
Hi folks,
   
after the painful and time-consuming creation of
/etc/portage/package.unmask for KDE 4, emerge --pretend --verbose
=kde-base/kde-meta-4.0.0 tells me: [blocks B ]
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-4.0.0)
   
I do not have emerge kdebase-3.5.7 but kdebase-3.5.8. The3refore, I
cannot unemerge 3.5.7. How can I work around this?
   
Uwe
  
   For future reference, check out autounmask.  I found out about it the
   other day.  I have not used it yet but I'm hopeful it works.
 
  I'll have look into autounmask.
 
   Also, there is a thread on the forums about this, I think you have to
   have 3.5.8* version to do this.  Not sure why tho.  Isn't KDE 4.0
   slotted?  Can't you have 3.5 AND 4.0 installed and select which version
   you want to log into?
 
  Exactly. So why is kdebase-3.5.7-r6 (which is not even installed here)
  blocking kdelibs-4.0.0?

 error in ebuild?
 I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the
 ebuild.

 Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h
 (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4
 problem...

Same here, no blockers... however I kdelibs-4 wanted accessibility use flag 
enabled in qt4... so... recompile qt4 with use flag set and I'm off compiling 
kde4...

I can't wait!!!

P.S. Autounmask worked like a charm...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Net / dhcp (miss)behaviour

2008-01-19 Thread Roy Wright
Marko Kocić wrote:
 I noticed that in most cases after I boot to windows, when I reboot
 back to linux I can't connect.
 When I reboot back to windows, net is up.

 When it fails I noticed that it send DHCP requests, but doesn't get a 
 response.

 I tried dhclient, dhcpd and pump, and the results are allways the
 same. It happens in the evenings, when internet traffic is high.
   
Try ipconnect /release before rebooting to linux.

Also I had a similar problem when I accidentally had two dhcp servers
running in my home lan.  A hair pulling two days.  :-)

I'd also suggest picking up a cheap non-wireless router (ex: linksys
BEFSR41). 
This will help isolate your box from being dependent on your ISP's dhcp
server.


HTH,
Roy


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[gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp

2008-01-19 Thread Philip Webb
A problem I have is that Firefox is not deleting  .pdf  files from  /tmp
after I have viewed  saved them elsewhere (using Kpdf).
There seems to be no place in Firefox or Kpdf settings to change this.
Does anyone have a useful suggestion for automatically deleting them ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.0

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Saturday 19 January 2008 02:58:11 pm Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   
 error in ebuild?
 I did not have that block. Maybe you should remove the blocker from the
 ebuild.

 Apart from that, kde4 installed very nice in parallel to 3.5 - in 2.5h
 (with qt4 rebuilt). Sadly I can not use it - because of a reiser4
 problem...
 

 Same here, no blockers... however I kdelibs-4 wanted accessibility use flag 
 enabled in qt4... so... recompile qt4 with use flag set and I'm off compiling 
 kde4...

 I can't wait!!!

 P.S. Autounmask worked like a charm...

   

H, I get this blocker:

[blocks B ] =x11-libs/qt-4.4_rc:4 (is blocking
x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.0_rc1)

Is unmerging qt a good idea?

Dale

:-)  :-)

P.S.  Yea, autounmask is pretty cool.  ;-)  Anybody check out the
noversion option yet?  I did a -p of it.  Seemed to be pretty cool.
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Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp

2008-01-19 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
 A problem I have is that Firefox is not deleting  .pdf  files from  /tmp
 after I have viewed  saved them elsewhere (using Kpdf).
 There seems to be no place in Firefox or Kpdf settings to change this.
 Does anyone have a useful suggestion for automatically deleting them ?

   

Since /tmp has been talked about on -dev, reboot will do it. 

Dale

:-)  :-)
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Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp

2008-01-19 Thread Philip Webb
080119 Dale wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
 A problem I have is that Firefox is not deleting  .pdf  files from  /tmp
 after I have viewed  saved them elsewhere (using Kpdf).
 There seems to be no place in Firefox or Kpdf settings to change this.
 Does anyone have a useful suggestion for automatically deleting them ?
 Since /tmp has been talked about on -dev, reboot will do it. 

No, it doesn't: some system setting I'm missing ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp

2008-01-19 Thread Kevin
Philip Webb wrote:
 080119 Dale wrote:
 Philip Webb wrote:
 A problem I have is that Firefox is not deleting  .pdf  files from  /tmp
 after I have viewed  saved them elsewhere (using Kpdf).
 There seems to be no place in Firefox or Kpdf settings to change this.
 Does anyone have a useful suggestion for automatically deleting them ?
 Since /tmp has been talked about on -dev, reboot will do it. 
 
 No, it doesn't: some system setting I'm missing ?
 

To automatically wipe /tmp upon reboot. Change WIPE_TMP to yes in
/etc/conf.d/bootmisc
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Re: [gentoo-user] stuff accumulating in /tmp

2008-01-19 Thread Philip Webb
080119 Kevin wrote:
 To automatically wipe /tmp upon reboot,
 change  WIPE_TMP  to yes in  /etc/conf.d/bootmisc

Thanks: I will consider the implications.

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[gentoo-user] sys-power/nut

2008-01-19 Thread James
Hello,

I've got a Tripplite OMNI1000LCD ups for my workstation.

I'm trying to get sys-power/nut to talk to it.


However lsusb nor usbview show the device. 

I looked in /lib/nut and tried several of the choices
for the /etc/nut/ups.conf entry such as these:

 James added this
   [OMNI1000LCD]
   #driver = tripplite_usb
   #driver = newhidups
   driver = usbhid-ups
   port = auto
   desc = Tripp Lite OMNI1000LCD USB


none of the 3 listed drivers work but thats (I think) because
the usbdevice never shows up with lsusb.

I've rebuilt the kernel  (including these suggestions:) to no avail:

http://linuxlore.blogspot.com/2006/12/howto-set-up-nut-on-gentoo-linux-for.html

and tried to use this wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NUT

All sorts of other usb devices show up just fine. 

I've tried both of these versions: 2.0.5-r2 and 2.2.0.


Any ideas?


James




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