[gentoo-user] Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
Hi, Here's a bit of a puzzle for me... I've got an 40G LVM partition with empty reiserfs on it. Then I've started rtorrent using this fs as a storage and added two 50G torrents to it. Rtorrent had no problems with the fact that partition is smaller than either of them and created all the

[gentoo-user] Re: Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Mike Kazantsev wrote: Hi, Here's a bit of a puzzle for me... I've got an 40G LVM partition with empty reiserfs on it. Then I've started rtorrent using this fs as a storage and added two 50G torrents to it. Rtorrent had no problems with the fact that partition is smaller than either of them and

Re: [gentoo-user] Sparse files and df

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 08:42:07 Mike Kazantsev wrote: Now I know that df can actually show weird results sometimes but I wonder why (re)moving files from a file system doesn't affect it's output at all. I had this on an Oracle machine a while ago - huge amounts of space being consumed by files

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Keith Dart
On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:08:50 -0300 Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote: Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple python installations. Any person with python knowledge can give an opinion on whether this is dangerous? And what is the easiest way to

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 23 May 2009 22:02:26 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2009 06:59:10 -0500, Dale wrote: Hmmm, I think someone needs to rethink the system set then. After all, portage does not work well without python. It should keep a binary copy but it should also warn you if you are

[gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Jarry
Hi, For whatever reason I can not stop/start MailScanner cleanly: # /etc/init.d/MailScanner stop * Stopping MailScanner... * MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting # /etc/init.d/MailScanner start * WARNING: MailScanner has already been started Actually, MailScanner stops, but sendmail which has

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 00:08:50 Jorge Morais wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2009 03:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Jon Hardcastle jd_hardcas...@yahoo.com wrote: And finally, couldn't he have gotten a binary package from http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/x86/dev-lang/ ? Have you not yet tried to

Re: [gentoo-user] Is paludis bad for SSDs?

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 23 May 2009 14:59:09 -0700 (PDT), maxim wexler wrote: Thanks for the tip. Is this the sort of thing that benefits from turning off CONFIG_PROTECT in one or more dirs?. That would mean that every update would trash your existing configs. It would be safe if you set it only when

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sun, 24 May 2009 08:44:32 +0800 Kevin kevin.tia...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, after reinstall my system, I can emerge neither emacs nor emacs-cvs successfully on my gentoo. when proceeded to the working fork check, it stops and hangs over, never go ahead. build.log:

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Sun, 24 May 2009 01:52:45 -0700 Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: On Sat, 23 May 2009 19:08:50 -0300 Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote: Now, I do have concerns about your system having remains of multiple python installations. Any person with python knowledge

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 24 May 2009 11:28:30 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 11:07:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Portage is not in system, only the virtual. That can be satisfied by Paludis, which does not need Python. Lucky for you, I know your sense of

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Keith Dart
On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:09:37 -0300 Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote: You don't seem to have taken into account that he has installed multiple vanilla python versions *manually* (with ./configure, make, and make install as root), to /usr, and then installed Python with Portage.

[gentoo-user] Re: cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Zsitvai János
Kevin wrote: and here it is emerge --info: http://dpaste.com/hold/47084/ According to http://bugs.gentoo.org/267053, downgrading sandbox to version 1.7 should work around the problem until it is fixed properly.

Re: [gentoo-user] firefox 3.0.10 crashes

2009-05-24 Thread dhk
Robin Atwood wrote: On Saturday 23 May 2009, dhk wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: Ever since I upgraded firefox to version 3 it crashes when certain pages are opened. Currently I have version 3.0.10 and amd64. I've been hoping the

Re: [gentoo-user] MailScanner: caught SIGTERM, aborting

2009-05-24 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:51 +0200 Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Mike Kazantsev wrote: Looks like there's a line in stop section that kills the script itself. Try looking for a lines like these: pkill MailScanner killall MailScanner start-stop-daemon --stop --name MailScanner

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 07:17:07 -0500, Dale wrote: 1: If I accidentally remove python, portage will not say a word as far as warning me this is bad. This is what got the OP into this. Yes, and that's a recent change, presumably as part of the move to make Gentoo and the portage tree work with

[gentoo-user] Re: paludis and make.conf

2009-05-24 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 24. Mai 2009 02:59:43 schrieb maxim.wex...@gmail.com: I meant I did not want things to get too complicated by adding lots of packages before I understood the system. In my grep of env.d their are only 5 lines _all_CONFIG_PROTECT_MASKs. None of then lead to /etc/init.d. So why

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread David Relson
Hi Kevin, This morning I'm experimenting with xorg.conf (with kernels 2.6.28-r5 and 2.6.29-r4 and with ati-drivers-8.552-r2) and have seen a variety of problems. One detail I've noted is that files in /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers matching *.so seem to be auto-loaded as X starts up. If you

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 24 May 2009 16:26:25 Neil Bothwick wrote: 2: Once #1 happens, your pretty much screwed because you don't even have a binary backup even tho it is set in make.conf to have one. That was the reason I put that setting in make.conf but someone chose to screw

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 24 May 2009 19:26:43 Dale wrote: Also, is this the file that contains the system set? /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages If so, python is commented out as is a few others. Is there a way to add files to something in /etc that emerge would consider in

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 24 May 2009 20:06:59 Arttu V. wrote: On 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: profiles are cascading and support multiple inheritance (parent files can contain several entries). So, you have to run find /usr/portage/profiles -name packages to find them all,

[gentoo-user] acpid: cannot open input layer -- why is that [ok]?

2009-05-24 Thread maxim wexler
Hello group, If you google acpid: cannot open input layer with quotes, you'll get zero hits. cannot open input layer results in five hits all refering back to my own email. I started seeing this in the boot console followed by the green [ok] sign after following the gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: paludis and make.conf

2009-05-24 Thread maxim wexler
--- On Sun, 5/24/09, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That should be explained in the portage docs. Best possible answer :-) It's right there is man 5 make.conf: One enables protection for the given files/docs. The other disables it. But I thought paludis had its own

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a need for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of portage. That may well be

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 May 2009 20:54:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Portage will not let you unmerge portage or gcc without a fight. It offers a way to back up these critical packages. No rational person will attempt to argue that python in a *portage* system is not subject to the same constraints.

Re: [gentoo-user] ARGH I uninstalled python

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 May 2009 18:22:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not exactly, buildsyspkg does the same as it always did, but @system has changed. This cold have happened at any time as there was never a need for python to be in @system,because it's a dependency of portage.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to manage package.keywords for greater system reliability?

2009-05-24 Thread Jorge Morais
On Fri, 22 May 2009 12:38:34 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2009 07:40:28 -0300, Jorge Morais wrote: maybe you should just run a ~arch system. I want a reliable system. Isn't ~arch quite less reliable than arch ? Not in my experience. ~arch only means the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cannot install emacs/emacs-cvs with X use

2009-05-24 Thread Kevin
I've downgrade sandbox it works, thanks both of you. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Zsitvai János zsitv...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin wrote: and here it is emerge --info: http://dpaste.com/hold/47084/ According to http://bugs.gentoo.org/267053, downgrading sandbox to version 1.7 should work

Re: [gentoo-user] depclean question

2009-05-24 Thread Dale
james wrote: OK, So I just updated one of my system and all went fine. I have not cleaned things up in a while, so I thought I'd see what depclean says, know that I'm using kde4 and sets. So I get a huge list, including lots of kde-base 4.2.2 packages. Hmmm, something is not

[gentoo-user] Escape a hung X session

2009-05-24 Thread sean
Does anyone know a way to kill an X session when it locks up? CTRL-ALT-Backspace and anything else that was tried does not kill the session. Sadly we have to pull the power to get back in. There is not other system at the location to get in remotely. Thanks

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: It tries to load ati on its own when I run startx with no xorg.conf. Not my idea. ati is a wrapper which tries to detect which driver to load. I'm not aware of having done anything to specify ati, so I don't know how to stop it. My focus on ati-drivers came from the

[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r5 with x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 -- file conflict

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: VIDEO_CARDS=r128 fbdev vesa vmware Er, ignore the vmware part; that's from my own system. Should just be r128 fbdev vesa.

[gentoo-user] Re: Excessive digest failures in portage

2009-05-24 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Saphirus Sage wrote: This has been a consistent problem on one of my computers, to no avail thusfar, even after changing sync server settings or redigesting individual failed ebuilds. In running emerge -uavDN world, it will take at least an hour to generate a list of packages to be merged, but