Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Winter clock change did not happen
On Sunday 31 October 2010 22:24:58 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:24:23PM +, Mick wrote: Thank you Graham for your very detailed reply! I understand now why the problem exists. I have used the registry change suggested by Nuno on Win7 and will see what gives next time DST changes. I just hope that it'll work without having *both* OS shifting the clock by one hour ... The more I read this page[1] the more I am tempted to format MSWindows out of this box whether the warranty is still valid or not! [1] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html Or just cheat like I do. I set Windows to GMT with no daylight saving offset, so it won't be tempted into playing with my system clock. Gentoo thinks CLOCK=UTC. I don't boot into Windows often enough to care about the clock being off by an hour during the summer (or roughly 5 hours year-round when I move back to the States). Having long accepted that Operating System is broken, when should I demand it to keep the right time? ;) Just my two pence I like it! Stop the bloody thing messing about with the clock altogether and leave Gentoo to manage it safely. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. Top shows 94% idle so its not from heavy system usage. The ls command seems to work anywhere else, and I see nothing peculiar when viewing $HOME with emacs. Running `ls' from a root shell against my user $HOME, is the same story, indefinite hang, nothing listed. I've let it run from both user and root shell for upwards of 1/2 hr. Still just sets there. I've killed the terminal and restarted both user and root shells. But still the same result... a `ls' against my user $HOME will just hang. In both root shell and user shell, once `ls' is run against my user $HOME, the command hangs but also cannot by interrupted. Ctrl-c will not stop it. It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause?
Re: [gentoo-user] When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:28 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. Top shows 94% idle so its not from heavy system usage. The ls command seems to work anywhere else, and I see nothing peculiar when viewing $HOME with emacs. Running `ls' from a root shell against my user $HOME, is the same story, indefinite hang, nothing listed. I've let it run from both user and root shell for upwards of 1/2 hr. Still just sets there. I've killed the terminal and restarted both user and root shells. But still the same result... a `ls' against my user $HOME will just hang. In both root shell and user shell, once `ls' is run against my user $HOME, the command hangs but also cannot by interrupted. Ctrl-c will not stop it. It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause? By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] More troubles with major update
I'm having a series of problems following a major update from several mnths ago. A major problem right now is that 127.0.0.1 has started rejected mail connections. That is, sendmail cannot send mail even locally. Sendmail itself has not been updated fetchmail has but looking at the ouput of qlop --list I see `pam' itself, and something called `pambase' that has been updated several times since Oct 26. I remember having trouble with pam relates stuff way back somewhere. Is that likely to be the source of my troubles? At the end I've listed what pkgs have been updated... but I need a push at getting to the bottom of the problem. I'm not interested in switching MTAs and anyway that has not been altered. Something else is causing the problem. A typical refused connection looks like: (verbose ouput from mailx -v) echo date|mailx -v -s test reader reader... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... reader... Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] Nothing at all is written to mail.log. Although logs show many lines from yesterday and day before that system was overloaded. Oct 30 22:28:26 reader sm-mta[1801]: rejecting connections on daemon MSA: load average: 12 Oh, and rsyslog (my system logger) has crashed repeatedly and will not run. That was also update, and reinstalled too. ---- ---=--- - Sorry this list is quite long... the update has stretched over several days and is really two updates: Tue Oct 26 12:11:02 2010 media-libs/libpng-1.4.4 Tue Oct 26 12:11:11 2010 virtual/jpeg-0 Tue Oct 26 12:15:40 2010 net-print/cups-1.4.4-r2 Tue Oct 26 17:30:55 2010 media-libs/gd-2.0.35-r2 Tue Oct 26 17:39:35 2010 media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r2 Tue Oct 26 17:47:14 2010 net-analyzer/ntop-4.0.1 Tue Oct 26 19:52:44 2010 sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.14 Tue Oct 26 19:52:44 2010 sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.14 Tue Oct 26 19:54:34 2010 sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.35 Tue Oct 26 21:12:21 2010 sys-libs/glibc-2.12.1-r1 Tue Oct 26 21:13:09 2010 app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6-r1 Tue Oct 26 21:13:32 2010 sys-devel/gnuconfig-20100924 Tue Oct 26 21:19:55 2010 dev-libs/gmp-5.0.1 Tue Oct 26 21:20:45 2010 app-text/libpaper-1.1.24 Tue Oct 26 21:21:01 2010 sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-10-r1 Tue Oct 26 21:21:49 2010 sys-libs/timezone-data-2010m Tue Oct 26 21:22:23 2010 sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r1 Tue Oct 26 21:23:25 2010 dev-libs/nspr-4.8.6 Tue Oct 26 21:24:38 2010 sys-fs/fuse-2.8.5 Tue Oct 26 21:34:08 2010 dev-libs/icu-4.4.2 Tue Oct 26 21:35:21 2010 dev-libs/oniguruma-5.9.2 Tue Oct 26 21:35:49 2010 sys-power/acpid-2.0.6 Tue Oct 26 21:36:24 2010 app-arch/cabextract-1.3 Tue Oct 26 21:37:06 2010 net-analyzer/gnu-netcat-0.7.1-r3 Tue Oct 26 21:37:23 2010 app-arch/rar-3.9.3 Tue Oct 26 21:38:00 2010 sys-process/lsof-4.84 Tue Oct 26 21:40:00 2010 sys-devel/m4-1.4.15 Tue Oct 26 21:41:20 2010 sys-apps/sandbox-2.3-r1 Tue Oct 26 21:44:19 2010 dev-libs/mpfr-3.0.0_p3 Tue Oct 26 21:45:10 2010 sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20100815160931 Tue Oct 26 21:46:12 2010 media-libs/libpng-1.2.44 Tue Oct 26 21:46:44 2010 dev-libs/libx86emu-1.1 Tue Oct 26 21:54:37 2010 sys-apps/hwinfo-18.1 Tue Oct 26 21:56:18 2010 dev-util/pkgconfig-0.25-r2 Tue Oct 26 21:57:17 2010 net-libs/libtirpc-0.2.1-r1 Tue Oct 26 22:04:24 2010 sys-libs/ncurses-5.7-r5 Tue Oct 26 22:07:36 2010 app-shells/bash-4.1_p9 Tue Oct 26 22:09:29 2010 net-ftp/ncftp-3.2.4.1 Tue Oct 26 22:09:58 2010 sys-apps/ed-1.5 Tue Oct 26 22:10:35 2010 sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.12-r1 Tue Oct 26 22:11:01 2010 sys-apps/debianutils-3.4.1 Tue Oct 26 22:11:22 2010 app-emacs/lua-mode-20100617-r1 Tue Oct 26 22:31:37 2010 dev-lang/perl-5.12.2-r1 Tue Oct 26 22:31:55 2010 app-admin/perl-cleaner-2.6 Tue Oct 26 22:32:27 2010 sys-devel/autoconf-2.68 Tue Oct 26 22:32:56 2010 perl-core/Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.030 Tue Oct 26 22:33:27 2010 perl-core/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.030 Tue Oct 26 22:33:56 2010 perl-core/File-Spec-3.33 Tue Oct 26 22:34:30 2010 dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.40 Tue Oct 26 22:35:11 2010 dev-perl/NetAddr-IP-4.033 Tue Oct 26 22:35:35 2010 dev-perl/Test-LongString-0.14 Tue Oct 26 22:36:50 2010 dev-lang/nasm-2.09.02 Tue Oct 26 22:37:15 2010 dev-perl/YAML-Tiny-1.44 Tue Oct 26 22:37:48 2010 perl-core/Test-Harness-3.22 Tue Oct 26 22:38:13 2010 dev-perl/yaml-0.72 Tue Oct 26 22:38:43 2010 dev-perl/HTML-Parser-3.67 Tue Oct 26 22:38:58 2010 virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.33 Tue Oct 26 22:39:25 2010 dev-perl/Digest-SHA1-2.13 Tue Oct 26 22:39:41 2010 virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Bzip2-2.030 Tue Oct 26 22:39:55 2010 virtual/perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.030 Tue Oct 26 22:40:25 2010 perl-core/Digest-MD5-2.51 Tue Oct 26 22:40:51 2010 dev-perl/MailTools-2.07 Tue Oct 26 22:41:06 2010 virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.22 Tue Oct 26 22:41:33 2010 dev-perl/URI-1.55 Tue Oct 26 22:41:48 2010 virtual/perl-Digest-MD5-2.51 Tue Oct 26 22:42:16 2010 perl-core/IO-Compress-2.030 Tue Oct 26 22:42:43 2010 perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.06 Tue Oct 26
[gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:28 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. Top shows 94% idle so its not from heavy system usage. The ls command seems to work anywhere else, and I see nothing peculiar when viewing $HOME with emacs. Running `ls' from a root shell against my user $HOME, is the same story, indefinite hang, nothing listed. I've let it run from both user and root shell for upwards of 1/2 hr. Still just sets there. I've killed the terminal and restarted both user and root shells. But still the same result... a `ls' against my user $HOME will just hang. In both root shell and user shell, once `ls' is run against my user $HOME, the command hangs but also cannot by interrupted. Ctrl-c will not stop it. It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause? By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 echo $HOME /home/reader That recent update may be the problem. I'll back that out later to see, but right now have a bigger and more urgent problem getting mail back in order following a major update.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:56 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:28 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. Top shows 94% idle so its not from heavy system usage. The ls command seems to work anywhere else, and I see nothing peculiar when viewing $HOME with emacs. Running `ls' from a root shell against my user $HOME, is the same story, indefinite hang, nothing listed. I've let it run from both user and root shell for upwards of 1/2 hr. Still just sets there. I've killed the terminal and restarted both user and root shells. But still the same result... a `ls' against my user $HOME will just hang. In both root shell and user shell, once `ls' is run against my user $HOME, the command hangs but also cannot by interrupted. Ctrl-c will not stop it. It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause? By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ echo $HOME /home/reader That recent update may be the problem. I'll back that out later to see, but right now have a bigger and more urgent problem getting mail back in order following a major update. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i need win32codes to play some Videos and i try it now for some days. I installed the codes already but vlc neither mpalyer does use them. I can't get them to use it with, the usefalg always with (-win32codecs). No use with flagedit or /etc/portage/package.use, /etc/make.conf I've read about some issue with 64 bit System, so maybe someone has an idea? Greeting from Germany Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzqveAAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvUAgH+gLzH3LoaTXcQaXLU8wBYs4E cYmO/cxq8Goz6A8X1ykoM4ntaxkL0QkeNl5K2bH4K0zdKsT+fD0VG6QcbF51Qnkj 2aJjcxmnJxyaHnBod0Dld+3ASpanoB1aP2LsfsJYogKoQMW+wN8nksQz3XJ8fHUo cqSBC+XRn0N4zBO3AimYoqE96PNmbItHYebZR2VE2qt0RD9Ul1rzBhaeFpagIsIV k2TMw7zrww1IzBQQ8sYxlXQE5NnEafuqj8vP6u5HNL31gryo4ocWPqaGarr1Zznu Nfm4tjaV3V/ud39XuZRyKJCBFSX3MXj3yvGjtTAiTQVfkv2+DM3wmPsEMpmhsrI= =ptiO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Sourcegarden GmbH HR: B-104357 Steuernummer: 37/167/21214 USt-ID: DE814784953 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto Bank: Deutsche Bank, BLZ: 10070024, KTO: 0810929 Schoenhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 01:07:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ echo $HOME /home/reader Before we go further, when you said `ls' will not complete against $HOME, which of the following scenario did you mean? a) you typed `ls $HOME' as a user (the one I think Alan thinks you mean) b) you type `ls' while in your home directory (/home/reader) c) you typed `ls /home/reader' ? W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:00 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Hi, i need win32codes to play some Videos and i try it now for some days. I installed the codes already but vlc neither mpalyer does use them. I can't get them to use it with, the usefalg always with (-win32codecs). No use with flagedit or /etc/portage/package.use, /etc/make.conf I've read about some issue with 64 bit System, so maybe someone has an idea? Greeting from Germany Alex You do not need that package at all. Proper linux code now exists for everything, you do not have to use that crazy system of wrapping Windows binaries anymore. Forget you ever heard of win32codecs. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.11.2010 13:09, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:00 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Hi, i need win32codes to play some Videos and i try it now for some days. I installed the codes already but vlc neither mpalyer does use them. I can't get them to use it with, the usefalg always with (-win32codecs). No use with flagedit or /etc/portage/package.use, /etc/make.conf I've read about some issue with 64 bit System, so maybe someone has an idea? Greeting from Germany Alex You do not need that package at all. Proper linux code now exists for everything, you do not have to use that crazy system of wrapping Windows binaries anymore. Forget you ever heard of win32codecs. But how i can run win MMS2 codecs on Linux or with vlc? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzrN7AAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvQakIAKG1vX89heORc40TU1FCBxkn j2cOBq6AZPtAUJvBeKNKwSvXeLh8cMxMv7czTZnGp09LI5cG9IdzIn/EPFheFCvN zz4vBZ5wJSvtVsuP3YODWLj+s/yVmuPfvLM5h/P7kTg6Hh3dsoTHh+vpcmxtBFb4 RnwhKCaJagotVgbzEBJEihJ6IM4uGar9UGwbfF75p1gOlK5FfOA/PT19SVlKop78 3iFDbuGdOxjX70mEXHDi075wLpOF3M7sJMt6fMWximuR0N/lk8rthJAMLE6VExQZ NPeWQmIqq2dxRym3SMxjZFQ+NjBI1BAfZDPxFbsHANQeBcxg3U6U6x97tdthu6s= =xQ6q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Sourcegarden GmbH HR: B-104357 Steuernummer: 37/167/21214 USt-ID: DE814784953 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto Bank: Deutsche Bank, BLZ: 10070024, KTO: 0810929 Schoenhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:32 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Am 01.11.2010 13:09, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:00 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Hi, i need win32codes to play some Videos and i try it now for some days. I installed the codes already but vlc neither mpalyer does use them. I can't get them to use it with, the usefalg always with (-win32codecs). No use with flagedit or /etc/portage/package.use, /etc/make.conf I've read about some issue with 64 bit System, so maybe someone has an idea? Greeting from Germany Alex You do not need that package at all. Proper linux code now exists for everything, you do not have to use that crazy system of wrapping Windows binaries anymore. Forget you ever heard of win32codecs. But how i can run win MMS2 codecs on Linux or with vlc? You are mostly SOL with that one. Here's some options, all involve lots of work: Run 32bit mplayer with win32codecs in a 32bit chroot Run a prebuilt 32bit mplayer than you download from any suitable repo Run a 32bit smplayer WINDOWS build in wine Run some Windows player in a virtual machine Dual boot My personal favourite is to just simply realize that I don't actually HAVE to watch the clip. No piece of video is THAT important (unlike say, oxygen). -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.11.2010 13:44, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:32 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Am 01.11.2010 13:09, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:00 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Hi, i need win32codes to play some Videos and i try it now for some days. I installed the codes already but vlc neither mpalyer does use them. I can't get them to use it with, the usefalg always with (-win32codecs). No use with flagedit or /etc/portage/package.use, /etc/make.conf I've read about some issue with 64 bit System, so maybe someone has an idea? Greeting from Germany Alex You do not need that package at all. Proper linux code now exists for everything, you do not have to use that crazy system of wrapping Windows binaries anymore. Forget you ever heard of win32codecs. But how i can run win MMS2 codecs on Linux or with vlc? You are mostly SOL with that one. Here's some options, all involve lots of work: Run 32bit mplayer with win32codecs in a 32bit chroot Run a prebuilt 32bit mplayer than you download from any suitable repo Run a 32bit smplayer WINDOWS build in wine Run some Windows player in a virtual machine Dual boot My personal favourite is to just simply realize that I don't actually HAVE to watch the clip. No piece of video is THAT important (unlike say, oxygen). Sorry but need this videos to learn ;/. I don't want reboot to f*cking M$. I tried running it in a VM, but the videos stop playing after a while . i will try with some wine stuff. so far thx greeting alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzrbdAAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvdjkIANJB5O8gwn1qBdhlduYyB4Kn TCQElCxUVHDi5sJeITrAbng5CYqlxnU6lIUaLeEZmy1+Qj2LsqVpXoiclMDPZ2tE Tw+dXcK4avdw2ikbelePone8KrMrAJqwR5mNK6Z1hBJKW41qKVR+rval0Uh7VTR0 EjCyWV98v7eUQsEtg8L2cQ6LpfD/et3cBaFElVu9Ir8OAqQ6NNZUtB7DYtoNVtfG WwX8yhtojeHcSQjEiKTdAnansI4QHUDatKGkI5tpUv1Z5g6JBA0NeW2Fv8fS6SYy iiHKnzHN3tWPlYA4S3Z9pbf6/IM5dLW3zQmKmPTvdqObDYF0EhVzqMMi8R1D3Eg= =3Zwj -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: [...] What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ Sorry... still asleep... bash-4.1_p9 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes: [...] Before we go further, when you said `ls' will not complete against $HOME, which of the following scenario did you mean? a) you typed `ls $HOME' as a user (the one I think Alan thinks you mean) b) you type `ls' while in your home directory (/home/reader) c) you typed `ls /home/reader' ? All three of those produce the same effect. Also if run from root shell against my users home `# ls /home/reader' The command just hangs there as described. However, as indicated earlier... my user or root can run `ls' against any other directory like normal. ls /etc Shows the content of /etc ls /home/reader Hangs eternally. Also, as mentioned, I can view /home/reader with emacs in dired (directory) mode, Which oddly enough uses ls and ls switches for that display far as I know. However, vim will not display /home/reader... and hangs eternally... requiring the shell to be killed. Viewing $HOME with emacs shows nothing untoward that I see. I thought maybe I'd somehow acquired thousands of files and `ls' was just taking forever to display the list... but no... nothing unusual in $HOME.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 07:51:50 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: However, as indicated earlier... my user or root can run `ls' against any other directory like normal. ls /etc Shows the content of /etc ls /home/reader What about ls /home/reader/somedir ? -- Neil Bothwick A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, Wish you were here. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:51 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: [...] What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ Sorry... still asleep... bash-4.1_p9 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes: [...] Before we go further, when you said `ls' will not complete against $HOME, which of the following scenario did you mean? a) you typed `ls $HOME' as a user (the one I think Alan thinks you mean) b) you type `ls' while in your home directory (/home/reader) c) you typed `ls /home/reader' ? All three of those produce the same effect. Also if run from root shell against my users home `# ls /home/reader' The command just hangs there as described. However, as indicated earlier... my user or root can run `ls' against any other directory like normal. ls /etc Shows the content of /etc ls /home/reader Hangs eternally. Also, as mentioned, I can view /home/reader with emacs in dired (directory) mode, Which oddly enough uses ls and ls switches for that display far as I know. However, vim will not display /home/reader... and hangs eternally... requiring the shell to be killed. Viewing $HOME with emacs shows nothing untoward that I see. I thought maybe I'd somehow acquired thousands of files and `ls' was just taking forever to display the list... but no... nothing unusual in $HOME. I suspect directory corruption in /home - is it a separate partition? I don't recall if you mentioned this or not, do you get the same result if you run ls $HOME as root? root's home dir is not on /home so that will vbe a valuable clue. If that command works, do an fsck on /home -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Winter clock change did not happen
On 2010-10-31, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: Or just cheat like I do. I set Windows to GMT with no daylight saving offset, so it won't be tempted into playing with my system clock. Gentoo thinks CLOCK=UTC. I don't boot into Windows often enough to care about the clock being off by an hour during the summer (or roughly 5 hours year-round when I move back to the States). Having long accepted that Operating System is broken, when should I demand it to keep the right time? ;) That's always been my solution. On my newest laptop, I just gave up on windows and erased Vista completely. On the occasions I need to do stuff like income tax, I think I'm going to run MacOS. Don't tell Steve Jobs. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I'm not an Iranian!! at I voted for Dianne gmail.comFeinstein!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.11.2010 14:13, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:51 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: [...] What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 That's the terminal. What shell do you use/ Sorry... still asleep... bash-4.1_p9 Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes: [...] Before we go further, when you said `ls' will not complete against $HOME, which of the following scenario did you mean? a) you typed `ls $HOME' as a user (the one I think Alan thinks you mean) b) you type `ls' while in your home directory (/home/reader) c) you typed `ls /home/reader' ? All three of those produce the same effect. Also if run from root shell against my users home `# ls /home/reader' The command just hangs there as described. However, as indicated earlier... my user or root can run `ls' against any other directory like normal. ls /etc Shows the content of /etc ls /home/reader Hangs eternally. Also, as mentioned, I can view /home/reader with emacs in dired (directory) mode, Which oddly enough uses ls and ls switches for that display far as I know. However, vim will not display /home/reader... and hangs eternally... requiring the shell to be killed. Viewing $HOME with emacs shows nothing untoward that I see. I thought maybe I'd somehow acquired thousands of files and `ls' was just taking forever to display the list... but no... nothing unusual in $HOME. I suspect directory corruption in /home - is it a separate partition? I don't recall if you mentioned this or not, do you get the same result if you run ls $HOME as root? root's home dir is not on /home so that will vbe a valuable clue. If that command works, do an fsck on /home Could also some problem with the inodes, could't? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzsDmAAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvtl0H/3Ex2l3razqJiXXV8BTUJSt6 6IxjvQ12e48vj6ED8vJ083LEEotGswTTzODHHdJApGoSgp8msCodSyjudscLNJRJ 8cpdGWOsIV8paLUfSkDXZConLdpfJp1fgTiupGrkXdCfW2jKM1R2K1dC7uPr+wXf nZtgaXGBw7Ao04mlgPNgXYXlN2V9JsWelc1AJhWBoCocopJj/eEeaHSCrLFzhInF Sm5GjVRaIEGKbplzi5mBgOgvQ756nCeAzjXM/Va5obvIrwbnGNd9VEJQ+WnJGCKT lFcfmRGorPPPYktvQTM3BiZf6Fs23C0ude+lZBgt4I+HtCyKrYHANLFrx1WBC3s= =IKBq -END PGP SIGNATURE- smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Run 32bit mplayer with win32codecs in a 32bit chroot Some other question to this, you mean doing a chroot32? Is there great different between chroot32 and a normal chroot doing it? Greetings from Germany Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzsduAAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvTXsH/R0mrer07ENwpE49Vevp0Z8m zCGhrxdW4vvY7blOgQ1JL0QTGxgg98/oTtC5UQPGFH4lYP+tZSvEHFOe+ZNr/++t j0ZP54Cza9jmmsmrfJKNgQE2eDLjuyjqwA5ibAMILbShSoePB4SxSENCuk0vKtpx aIfYf8hIq7NjJwZ4QilbVvi5KLjczSOvQpz/cS5mhTGYu5DlFOjIdvq1b/dAkCu2 zIMl+Jwdq5B//g1mRdtn/F7k5zo0sLUq3RsokYurRt+1ToRtf2bTfABzS67cI/hC dvHCCfeZhcqWCYRxjO0d1BAUPEpWewd92vPiH3iDOX//xNYKufUBNbLQ9aK80/k= =dApr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Sourcegarden GmbH HR: B-104357 Steuernummer: 37/167/21214 USt-ID: DE814784953 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto Bank: Deutsche Bank, BLZ: 10070024, KTO: 0810929 Schoenhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:58 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Run 32bit mplayer with win32codecs in a 32bit chroot Some other question to this, you mean doing a chroot32? Is there great different between chroot32 and a normal chroot doing it? Greetings from Germany Alex There's no such thing as a chroot32 in this context, there is only a chroot. What you put into a chroot is up to you. In this case I mean you build 32 bit stuff and put them in the chroot. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:30 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: I suspect directory corruption in /home - is it a separate partition? I don't recall if you mentioned this or not, do you get the same result if you run ls $HOME as root? root's home dir is not on /home so that will vbe a valuable clue. If that command works, do an fsck on /home Could also some problem with the inodes, could't? Yes. Doesn't matter if it's inodes or blocks, it's still corruption. inodes are just blocks that the fs drivers understands to treat specially. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install mplayer/vlc with win32codecs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.11.2010 15:10, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:58 on Monday 01 November 2010, alex did opine thusly: Run 32bit mplayer with win32codecs in a 32bit chroot Some other question to this, you mean doing a chroot32? Is there great different between chroot32 and a normal chroot doing it? Greetings from Germany Alex There's no such thing as a chroot32 in this context, there is only a chroot. What you put into a chroot is up to you. In this case I mean you build 32 bit stuff and put them in the chroot. Sounds like lots of work, but thanks for helping here. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMzsxhAAoJEB8n+SuWCkjvBcsH/0pVJul1+K0Jsu87kFZQE1xA tdLATFarayVchqXDiXyUME9d9e7sjVwb21/o1HQcm0FKlou/c5UjA0069UhvdIbK aQboHSJmw4jVu26GglPAzzBRXRmJYGxuRwhDB6f9Fs//leGh+3Gyvc044e+9MSf1 5iK7PitYdYnJeyE5PBN78zR9iK54ELw5bnN/RpQO8/JKzjeEmBFQyznPfNa16jXo riAVMMrbYP1ldku8ut1ATZ+o2+X9Y+pkWkRWgf6kQdFlKit/7JpM5BABw0Xs06uC lK668sduPt/UVRg+zaIhZ6VY3D52KaSRUahuySidLaz07oBX+2rhBHBPqA8qNJA= =s3pr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Sourcegarden GmbH HR: B-104357 Steuernummer: 37/167/21214 USt-ID: DE814784953 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Mario Scheliga, Rene Otto Bank: Deutsche Bank, BLZ: 10070024, KTO: 0810929 Schoenhauser Allee 55, 10437 Berlin
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:28 on Monday 01 November 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: Something I have not run into before. Following a major update still in progress I find the ls command will not run on $HOME. I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. Top shows 94% idle so its not from heavy system usage. The ls command seems to work anywhere else, and I see nothing peculiar when viewing $HOME with emacs. Running `ls' from a root shell against my user $HOME, is the same story, indefinite hang, nothing listed. I've let it run from both user and root shell for upwards of 1/2 hr. Still just sets there. I've killed the terminal and restarted both user and root shells. But still the same result... a `ls' against my user $HOME will just hang. In both root shell and user shell, once `ls' is run against my user $HOME, the command hangs but also cannot by interrupted. Ctrl-c will not stop it. It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause? By the time the command hits ls itself, the shell has already expanded the HOME variable. So it's unlikely to be the command and more something dodgy with your shell. What shell are you using? What is the output of echo $HOME? My shell is xterm... and was just updated to: Wed Oct 27 10:15:06 2010 x11-terms/xterm-262 echo $HOME /home/reader That recent update may be the problem. I'll back that out later to see, but right now have a bigger and more urgent problem getting mail back in order following a major update. Sendmail will reject if the load is high enough. This can be adjusted and if your load is 12, this is probably the problem. Also, make sure the daemon is running -- you should have two daemons, the mta and the other one (mssp) I think which reads the mclient-queue. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] How to record a dvb-t stream for a specific time ?
On 2010-10-31 13:30, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...cat has no timing parameter (see mail)... Yes, but I put it in a sub shell (cat ... ) and then kill it (using a very rough script that loops date). Basically what I do is: 1. set channel for a certain video adapter (I have two). 2. Use a script that loops date (with a 5 second interval) and when it hits the threshold starts a sub shell with 'cat /dev/video0 filmname.mpg' and saves the PID in a filename with the same name but with a .pid ending instead. 3. Use a script that loops date and when it hits the threshold reads the PID of the cat process from the .pid file and kills it. Perhaps not the ideal way to solve a problem but it works for me without having to mess with something that can sing dance while (hopefully) doing whatever I want it to do... and needing the kitchen sink for a minimal install. MfG Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] When ls command fails but only on $HOME
Am 01.11.2010 11:28, schrieb Harry Putnam: I can view the directory with emacs in dired mode but `ls' simply will not complete... never shows anything and stays hung indefinitely. [...] It only seem to happen on $HOME how very odd. Anyone else seen that or have an idea what might be the cause? No. But maybe 'strace ls' will show something? Is /home on a separate partition? I'd do a fsck on it. touch /forcefsck or use a live cd for this. Good luck, Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] More troubles with major update
On 1/11/2010, at 10:52am, Harry Putnam wrote: ... A major problem right now is that 127.0.0.1 has started rejected mail connections. That is, sendmail cannot send mail even locally. Sendmail itself has not been updated... You haven't demonstrated that sendmail is even installed. eix -I sendmail which sendmail equery b /usr/sbin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail address Huckleberry_Finn.txt telnet 127.0.0.1 25 Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to record a dvb-t stream for a specific time ?
pk pete...@coolmail.se [10-11-02 00:24]: On 2010-10-31 13:30, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...cat has no timing parameter (see mail)... Yes, but I put it in a sub shell (cat ... ) and then kill it (using a very rough script that loops date). Basically what I do is: 1. set channel for a certain video adapter (I have two). 2. Use a script that loops date (with a 5 second interval) and when it hits the threshold starts a sub shell with 'cat /dev/video0 filmname.mpg' and saves the PID in a filename with the same name but with a .pid ending instead. 3. Use a script that loops date and when it hits the threshold reads the PID of the cat process from the .pid file and kills it. Perhaps not the ideal way to solve a problem but it works for me without having to mess with something that can sing dance while (hopefully) doing whatever I want it to do... and needing the kitchen sink for a minimal install. MfG Peter K Hi Peter, yes, the killing thing was my first idea also. But since it is not that gentleman like, I asked here for another solution. In the meanwhile I found this: tzap -r -H -t duration in seconds -o - channelname from ~/.tzap/channels.conf filename records the stream into filename. The redirection is necassary, since tzap gets problems when trying to write more than 2Gigs of streamed data. I start this via fcron. MfG mcc
[gentoo-user] world symlinking
Hi, list. I keep changes of my /etc with git and I would like to include /var/lib/portage/world file into the repository. Can I safely do: mv /var/lib/portage/world /etc/portage ln -s /etc/portage /var/lib/portage/world Will portage update handle it properly? Using hardlinks seems to be more cleaner way, but for some reason I don't want to use it for this task. Have a nice day! ;) -- Gary Golden
[gentoo-user] Problems with frcon and pam?
Hi, currently my fcron seems to have problems to do its jobs done: Nov 02 04:56:21 [fcron] Could not open PAM session for '/usr/sbin/check_system_crontabs -s 0': Module is unknown Nov 02 04:56:21 [fcron] read_write_pipe(): read/write returned 0: retrying... (size: 4, size_processed: 0, num_retry: 1): Success Nov 02 04:56:22 [fcron] read_write_pipe(): read/write returned 0: retrying... (size: 4, size_processed: 0, num_retry: 2): Success Nov 02 04:56:23 [fcron] read_write_pipe(): read/write returned 0: retrying... (size: 4, size_processed: 0, num_retry: 3): Success Nov 02 04:56:24 [fcron] Could not read job pid because of closed pipe: setting it to -1 /etc/fcron/fcron.deny is empty /etc/fcron/fcron.allow says all Additionally I recompiled fcron. Unfortunately I dont know how to interpret the above lines from the logs... How can I fix this? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Have a nice day! Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Converting RCS/CVS to git
I have a small RCS repository which I would like to convert to git. It has no branches, no subdirs, and only a few files. I found one conversion utility which claimed to convert directly from RCS to git, but it failed, and I no longer remember its name or how it failed, other than it sounded like more than a simple failure. I can convert it to CVS manually simply enough. I found git has a cvsimport command, but it complained that cvs didn't recognize the server command, and some hints I saw of requiring cvs 2 made me pause ... all I can see is cvs 1.12. Vague fuzzy old memories make me think there was a cvs 2, but I see nothing in gentoo for it. I am not excited at git expecting a cvs server; I'll be danged if I'm going to muck around with that just to convert a few files when git has direct access to the ,v files themselves. Anyone have any suggestions? Don't feed me google pages; I am asking for personal experience. It would also be interesting to know what this cvs 2 business is. It's hard to google for that ... -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
[gentoo-user] HP C4795 All-in-One
Hi, Before someone asks Haven't you posted this before?, I'll respond, Sort of, but not really! Anyway, I've reread all the previous posts. Mostly, they were related to the printer portion of the device. The printer works fine. The current problem is related to the scanner. My previous post was about not being able to use xsane as a normal user, it would only work as root. Since posting that, I've done upgrades to my system and for months, the scanner won't work at all - not as a normal user nor as root. I've tried reinstalling sane-backends and xsane using an unstable version, but that didn't help the situation. I've checked the kernel configuration and that looks fine. When installing sane-backends, after the normal USE=, there is a statement SANE-BACKENDS= ... where a number of devices are listed, but none in the 4700 series. I have no idea what is going on here. I don't scan much, but tonight when I desperately needed to scan I couldn't despite my best efforts. BTW, I AM in the scanner group, so that is not the issue. Whenever, I try to run xsane as a normal user or root, I get the message No device found. Help would be appreciated. Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org
