Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread mindrunner
someone calls me stupid and dumb, because i am sharing my opinion. this never happened to me on a dev-mailinglist. I came here to help out gentoo users. not to flame war. If I want this kind of conversation, i would sign in to gulli board or some similar, but not gentoo-users. so I thought, we are

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 01:00:05PM +0100, mindrunner wrote: someone calls me stupid and dumb, because i am sharing my opinion. this never happened to me on a dev-mailinglist. I came here to help out gentoo users. not to flame war. If I want this kind of conversation, i would sign in to gulli

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 4:00 AM, mindrunner ker...@ccube.de wrote: someone calls me stupid and dumb, because i am sharing my opinion. this never happened to me on a dev-mailinglist. I came here to help out gentoo users. not to flame war. If I want this kind of conversation, i would sign in to

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Philip Webb
121109 mindrunner wrote: On 11/08/2012 09:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Donnerstag, 8. November 2012, 16:23:08 schrieb mindrunner: i always use ddrescue for migrating to another hdd. that is just stupid. You copy the fragmentation, the errors, the journal log and all the other crap

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 05:56:57AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Please, don't take Volker seriously as anyone who represents the basic discourse here. I black listed him a year ago but unfortunately his rudeness still leaks through. While he is technically capable, far more than me certainly,

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:00:35AM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: Don't worry re VAH : he writes like that, but there's no ill-will often he has something useful to say. Most of the time, Gentoo-User is polite + intelligent a good source of Linux education. In this case, as someone else

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 01:38:41 schrieb mindrunner: volker, what is your intention to say i am dumb and stupid. actually you do not know me. everybody does something dumb and/or stupid once in a while. I average that one to 1/day. There are two ways to react if someone points out that

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:14:47PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 01:38:41 schrieb mindrunner: volker, what is your intention to say i am dumb and stupid. actually you do not know me. everybody does something dumb and/or stupid once in a while. I average

[gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-09 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, everyone. I recently built a kernel 3.5.7, but my system doesn't boot with it. More precisely, it appears not to be starting init, since the line containing INIT and version 2.88 is missing from my console display. The booting process did get as far as mounting my root partition RO. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Walters
On 11/9/2012 10:14 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 01:38:41 schrieb mindrunner: volker, what is your intention to say i am dumb and stupid. actually you do not know me. everybody does something dumb and/or stupid once in a while. I average that one to 1/day.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-09 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 09.11.2012 18:47, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, everyone. I recently built a kernel 3.5.7, but my system doesn't boot with it. More precisely, it appears not to be starting init, since the line containing INIT and version 2.88 is missing from my console display. The booting process did

[gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread James
Time To build a new AMD system. What I'm sure of: FX-8350 Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD3 mobo Suggestions on these hardware: Blueray RW (Vendor ?) DDR3 OC 2000 ram (4x8gig, 240) (vendor?) ripjaw? Any fit or heat issues? CPU cooler (vendor-model?) One that this mobo without cramping ram space?

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Andrew Hoffman
cpu cooler: Small quiet good performance http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/06/thermalright_true_spirit_120m_cpu_air_cooler_review Big, quiet very good performance. I own this and love it http://hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/thermalright_hr02_macho_cpu_air_cooler_review/ -Andy On Fri, Nov 9,

Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP - specific inet no - how to

2012-11-09 Thread Mick
On Thursday 08 Nov 2012 13:15:27 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, November 08, 2012 12:13:56 PM Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 11/08/2012 09:45:34 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 09:18:35 +0100, Andrea Conti wrote: Normally, a device tries to get the previous inet number, but

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread James
Andrew Hoffman sixgod at gmail.com writes: cpu cooler: http://hardocp.com/article/2012/11/06/thermalright_true_spirit_120m_cpu_air_cooler_review Big, quiet very good performance. I own this and love it http://hardocp.com/article/2011/07/26/thermalright_hr02_macho_cpu_air_cooler_review/

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Dale
James wrote: Time To build a new AMD system. What I'm sure of: FX-8350 Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD3 mobo I have a Gigabyte mobo. Good choice. I don't have that specific model but brand is good. I been wanting to get that CPU too. ;-) Suggestions on these hardware: Blueray RW (Vendor ?)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Andrew Hoffman
I don't have any info on the noise other hand the fan on my hr-02 macho will turn off from time to time because it cools so well. My video cards are definitely the loudest in my system. For you, someone who likes quiet systems, air or water both still need a fan and will make noise and the fan you

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread pk
On 2012-11-09 20:00, James wrote: passively cooled AMD/ATI video card (vendor-model?) If you wish to use kms and mesa drivers, you can compare the current status of various AMD chips here: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature#Feature_Matrix_for_Free_Radeon_Drivers I got a Sapphire HD6670

[gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread walt
I have a sore head from banging it on the wall for the last week, but it's beginning to feel better already. I just (finally!) got all my needed services up and running at boot time, and it's *fast*. Rebooting and shutdown are lightning fast now, a matter of five seconds or so. Cool :) I

[gentoo-user] deleted /var/db/*

2012-11-09 Thread Grant
I idiotically and accidentally deleted /var/db/*. What can I do to bring things back in line? - Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread pk
On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote: You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to explain things properly to old farts. Good for you. I really don't see the point in preaching systemd's greatness (or

Re: [gentoo-user] deleted /var/db/*

2012-11-09 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 10.11.2012 00:09, schrieb Grant: I idiotically and accidentally deleted /var/db/*. What can I do to bring things back in line? - Grant You could start by re-emerging everything that is in /var/lib/portage/world That should pull in almost all deps

Re: [gentoo-user] deleted /var/db/*

2012-11-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:09:50 -0800, Grant wrote: I idiotically and accidentally deleted /var/db/*. What can I do to bring things back in line? emerge -e @world should recreate it, although it is far from instant :( ...unless you have buildpkg in FEATURES, in which case you could use emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot with kernel 3.5.7: init not being started

2012-11-09 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 09.11.2012 19:46, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 07:12:09PM +0100, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 09.11.2012 18:47, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, everyone. I recently built a kernel 3.5.7, but my system doesn't boot with it. More precisely, it appears not to be starting init,

Re: [gentoo-user] uefi gpt grub2

2012-11-09 Thread 微蔡
On Thursday 08 November 2012 13:53:22 Randolph Maaßen wrote: 2012/11/8 j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk Over the last few days I have tried to set up using uefi gpt and grub2. After many hours of frustration I have gone back to grub legacy and mbr. I followed the Gentoo wiki and Arch wiki and

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Dale
pk wrote: On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote: You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to explain things properly to old farts. Good for you. I really don't see the point in preaching systemd's

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread 微蔡
On Saturday 10 November 2012 00:13:04 pk wrote: On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote: You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to explain things properly to old farts. Good for you. I really

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Keith Dart
Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo laptop. There I do boot frequently, and could benefit from quicker bootups. So

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo

[gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread walt
On 11/09/2012 03:13 PM, pk wrote: On 2012-11-09 23:53, walt wrote: You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) now I think he's not so bad after all. He just doesn't know yet how to explain things properly to old farts. Good for you. I really don't see the point in

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Keith Dart
Re 20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Canek Peláez Valdés said: Just a word of advice: if you are a normal laptop user, systemd has replaced most of the functionality of

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Dale
Keith Dart wrote: Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo laptop. There I do boot frequently, and could benefit from

[gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread walt
On 11/09/2012 06:30 PM, Dale wrote: Me, if I was going to switch, I'd use a second install or copy my current install to another partition, just in case I can't get around that curve. ;-) Heh, you didn't think I started with my real machine, right? I've spent the last week rebooting a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 11/09/2012 06:30 PM, Dale wrote: Me, if I was going to switch, I'd use a second install or copy my current install to another partition, just in case I can't get around that curve. ;-) Heh, you didn't think I started with my real machine, right? I've spent the last week

Re: [gentoo-user] deleted /var/db/*

2012-11-09 Thread Grant
I idiotically and accidentally deleted /var/db/*. What can I do to bring things back in line? emerge -e @world should recreate it, although it is far from instant :( ...unless you have buildpkg in FEATURES, in which case you could use emerge -ek @world Thanks, I do have buildpkg.

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 17:11:49 schrieb Keith Dart: Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gma ne.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo laptop. There I

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 19:00:12 schrieb James: Time To build a new AMD system. What I'm sure of: FX-8350 Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD3 mobo Suggestions on these hardware: Blueray RW (Vendor ?) DDR3 OC 2000 ram (4x8gig, 240) (vendor?) ripjaw? Any fit or heat issues? CPU cooler

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread 微蔡
On Saturday 10 November 2012 07:54:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 17:11:49 schrieb Keith Dart: Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1@ger.g ma ne.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 15:17:26 schrieb 微蔡: On Saturday 10 November 2012 07:54:21 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 17:11:49 schrieb Keith Dart: Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1@ger.g ma ne.org, Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: new system hardware

2012-11-09 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Freitag, 9. November 2012, 19:00:12 schrieb James: Time To build a new AMD system. What I'm sure of: FX-8350 Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD3 mobo Suggestions on these hardware: Blueray RW (Vendor ?) DDR3 OC 2000 ram (4x8gig, 240) (vendor?) ripjaw? Any fit or