Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:28:27 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> when trying  to emerge -av1 --deep --with-bdeps=y
> dev-util/android-studio (version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178-r1) I get
> 
> !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied
> dependencies !!! triggered by backtracking:
> 
> dev-util/android-studio:0
> 
> What can I do to see the source of this problem?
> 
> By the way, version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178 is installed here.

The only difference between those two ebuilds is a slight change in the
way the ncurses DEPEND is defined. It's hard to say more without seeing
the full output but you could try re-emerging ncurses.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Would a fly without wings be called a walk?


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Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

[Alan McKinnon]

On 10/10/2015 22:07, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:28:27 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> 
>> when trying  to emerge -av1 --deep --with-bdeps=y
>> dev-util/android-studio (version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178-r1) I get
>>
>> !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied
>> dependencies !!! triggered by backtracking:
>>
>> dev-util/android-studio:0
>>
>> What can I do to see the source of this problem?
>>
>> By the way, version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178 is installed here.
> 
> The only difference between those two ebuilds is a slight change in the
> way the ncurses DEPEND is defined. It's hard to say more without seeing
> the full output but you could try re-emerging ncurses.
> 
> 


It's a bug in the ebuild and should be reported:

<   >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3[abi_x86_32(-)]
---
>   || ( >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:0/5[abi_x86_32(-)]
>=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5/5[abi_x86_32(-)] )


khamul env # eix ncurses
[I] sys-libs/ncurses
 Available versions:
 (0)5.9-r3 (~)5.9-r4 5.9-r5(0/5) (~)6.0-r1(0/6)
 (5)5.9-r99(5/5) (~)5.9-r101(5/5) (~)6.0(5/6)


The two versions in the || in the ebuild are the same, except one is
SLOT 0 and the other 5, and neither have sub-slot 5. This is impossible
to satisfy.

OP can move past this by simply masking
dev-util/android-studio-1.4.0.10.141.2288178-r1.ebuild, the end result
on his system will be the same

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: OT:: free pop3 mail box?

[James]

Mick  gmail.com> writes:


> I thought you said you didn't want Big (Brother).  Sure, GMX ain't Gmail, but 
> we're still talking about a multinational megalith here, who's grown through 
> acquisitions in different countries.  In any case, if you're dialling in from 
> the US, you'll be connecting to their Kansas datacentre and your data will be 
> pwned before it ever reaches their servers.  However, they state that they 
> treat emails like sealed letters so they remain private and will not sell on 
> your details for advertising purposes.


Good to know about gmx.com. Still it's just an external account for testing.
More info in the next post.

thx,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: OT:: free pop3 mail box?

[James]

Hans  interworld.net.au> writes:


> If you have or can get a fixed IP address and own domain name, check out 
> ispconfig.org (mail, web, dns, ftp) and iredmail.org (mail). You can run 
> either in VirtualBox with 500K ram or on a old laptop. Both run on top 
> of Debian, Ubunto, OpenSuse.

ispconfig.org is an interesting solution.

But, I now have (5) statics and fiber, so I'm going traditional with  DNS
servers,  a mail-server(postfix) and a webserver for virtual hosting.
Eventually the web services will run on a cluster.


> I was some years ago annoyed with my mail provider and decided to run 
> IRedMail in VirtualBox. Now it's ISPconfig on an old laptop in 
> VirtualBox to server as Mail, Web and local DNS server.

This does look perfect for a single static IP:: good to know.

thx to all for the help.

James

[gentoo-user] DNS server packages

[James]

Howdy,

So I now have (5) statics and a fiber feed, with lots of room to grow.

I need to setup DNS primary/secondary systems on gentoo. So right now I'm
looking for a suggested list of packages to install with Bind, iptables and
DNSSEC-tools as these (2) gentoo dns servers will only run the minimum
packages to operate securely?


Also, what is the (nominal) minimum amount of RAM needed to keep all routes
in ram in these  name servers?


I also found these wiki pages as resources:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/BIND

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/BIND/Guide


James

Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

[Neil Bothwick]

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 00:04:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > The only difference between those two ebuilds is a slight change in
> > the way the ncurses DEPEND is defined. It's hard to say more without
> > seeing the full output but you could try re-emerging ncurses.

> It's a bug in the ebuild and should be reported:
> 
> <   >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3[abi_x86_32(-)]
> ---
> >   || ( >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:0/5[abi_x86_32(-)]  
> >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5/5[abi_x86_32(-)] )  
> 
> 
> khamul env # eix ncurses
> [I] sys-libs/ncurses
>  Available versions:
>  (0)5.9-r3 (~)5.9-r4 5.9-r5(0/5) (~)6.0-r1(0/6)
>  (5)5.9-r99(5/5) (~)5.9-r101(5/5) (~)6.0(5/6)
> 
> 
> The two versions in the || in the ebuild are the same, except one is
> SLOT 0 and the other 5, and neither have sub-slot 5. This is impossible
> to satisfy.


Don't 5.9-r5 and 5.9-r101 satisfy the dependency?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

One-seventh of life is spent on Monday.


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Re: [gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

[Alan McKinnon]

On 11/10/2015 00:13, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 00:04:40 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
>>> The only difference between those two ebuilds is a slight change in
>>> the way the ncurses DEPEND is defined. It's hard to say more without
>>> seeing the full output but you could try re-emerging ncurses.
> 
>> It's a bug in the ebuild and should be reported:
>>
>> <   >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3[abi_x86_32(-)]
>> ---
>>>   || ( >=sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:0/5[abi_x86_32(-)]  
>>> =sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r3:5/5[abi_x86_32(-)] )  
>>
>>
>> khamul env # eix ncurses
>> [I] sys-libs/ncurses
>>  Available versions:
>>  (0)5.9-r3 (~)5.9-r4 5.9-r5(0/5) (~)6.0-r1(0/6)
>>  (5)5.9-r99(5/5) (~)5.9-r101(5/5) (~)6.0(5/6)
>>
>>
>> The two versions in the || in the ebuild are the same, except one is
>> SLOT 0 and the other 5, and neither have sub-slot 5. This is impossible
>> to satisfy.
> 
> 
> Don't 5.9-r5 and 5.9-r101 satisfy the dependency?
> 
> 


 must be the hangover from last night's dodgy beer...

There's ">=" there that I totally missed. Sorry for the noise...

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies triggered by backtracking

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

when trying  to emerge -av1 --deep --with-bdeps=y dev-util/android-studio 
(version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178-r1)
I get

!!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies
!!! triggered by backtracking:

dev-util/android-studio:0

What can I do to see the source of this problem?

By the way, version 1.4.0.10.141.2288178 is installed here.

Many thanks for your help,
Helmut

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Getting stuff off a Mac machine

[Andrew Lowe]

On 09/05/2015 12:57 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all,
>   A friend has a, I thin a few years old - Yosemite, Mac that I need to
> get some large files off. I though Mac's could read NTFS, the files are
> bigger than 4GB hence NTFS over FAT32, hence formatted a spare USB drive
> as NTFS and then plugged it into the machine. No go on the copy. I tried
> a few things then it dawned on me that the Mac probably couldn't write
> to the disk - bummer
> 
>   A google search for things led me to the following procedure and was
> wondering if anyone had already done this and could advise.
> 
> 1) Format USB via the Mac using HFS+
> 
> 2) copy files to disk
> 
> 3) Enable HFS+ in the kernel of my machine and rebuild
> 
> 4) Boot my machine with the new kernel
> 
> 5) Plug USB into my machine and mount
> 
> 6) Copy files off to my machine
> 
> 7) Format the USB back to something the rest of the world can use ;)
> 
> Is that it? I can't do anything with the mac machine, NTFS-3g etc, so I
> have to fit into the Mac world as much as possible. Have I missed
> anything? Any tips or tricks or is there no need as it's that simple?
> 
>   Any thoughts greatly appreciated,
> 
>   Andrew
> 
> 

Just closing off this question of mine. Thanks to those who offered
answers. The steps I outlined above proved to be the easiest to go. I
COULD NOT modify my friends Mac - I have never used a Mac before and my
friend knows how to start a word processor and view movies, that's all.

Rsync was suggested. It would either require mods or a lot of reading
on my part.

Splitting the files to sub 4GB "splits" was also suggested, but I
couldn't find the console and didn't even know if Macs had a split
thingy - but now as I think about it, it's BSD derived so it would.

Simply mounting the NTFS device was also mentioned, but the version of
the OS didn't have that native and would require changes.

So thanks for the thoughts.

Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KDE apps in a non KDE environment

[Andrew Lowe]

Whoops, big mistake on my part. I misread the threading of the original
email and credited the idea to Alan Mc Kinnon. The credit should go to
Rich Freeman.

Sorry Rich,

Andrew


On 10/10/2015 06:56 PM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> On 10/03/2015 06:41 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon  
>> wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2015 05:31, Andrew Lowe wrote:
 Hi all,
   I'm getting disillusioned with the direction KDE is taking, with
 respect to forcing users to use things they don't want to. The semantic
 desktop, or whatever they are now calling bits and pieces of it, is one
 thing that comes immediately to mind.

   Anyway, I've decided to move on and am thinking of going to lxqt. The
 problem is that I'm used to several KDE apps, kwooty, kwrite and a few
 more. Is it possible to run something such as lxqt and then emerge in
 kde apps where it will bring in just a few kde libraries, which I can
 live with, but not the whole desktop environment?
>>>
>>> Yes. Remove all of KDE then emerge back in the apps you want, they have
>>> deps on the libs they need. Whatever they pull in is required.
>>
>> It is easier than that.
>>
>> Edit your /var/lib/portage/world
>> Remove anything kde-related you're not explicitly interested in, such
>> as kde-meta
>> Add anything you are explicitly interested in, such as kwooty or kwrite
>> Add kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta
>>
>> Then run emerge --depclean and watch all the other stuff go away.
>>
>> No need to purge yourself of stuff like kdelibs that takes a long time
>> to rebuild just to add it back.  Let the dependency manager help you
>> out for a change.  :)
>>
>> I'm not even certain you need to explicitly add kdebase-runtime-meta -
>> other packages might pull that in on their own but I'm not certain of
>> that.  Run a --depclean -p first and see what portage wants to get rid
>> of before going that route.  Software may-or-may not work correctly
>> without that virtual installed and your bugs will be closed as
>> invalid.  That virtual is intended to be a somewhat-minimalist one for
>> situations like yours, but kde applications still will tend to pull a
>> lot of stuff in.
>>
> 
>   Closing my original question, I followed Alan's advice, fiddled the
> world file, and whilst not exactly "hey presto", a few emerge's, some
> hand manipulation of a few files and eventually it worked.
> 
>   It's a bit of a jump, I'd become quite used to Dolphin and whilst
> pcmanfm likes to think of itself as a dolphin replacement, it's a long
> long way from being so. There is no autohide of the task bar, no
> slideshow wallpaper option, I still can't work out automounting of usb's
> and plenty more to keep you on your toes.
> 
>   So thanks for all of your suggestions.
> 
>   Andrew
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KDE apps in a non KDE environment

[Andrew Lowe]

On 10/03/2015 06:41 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:
>> On 02/10/2015 05:31, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>   I'm getting disillusioned with the direction KDE is taking, with
>>> respect to forcing users to use things they don't want to. The semantic
>>> desktop, or whatever they are now calling bits and pieces of it, is one
>>> thing that comes immediately to mind.
>>>
>>>   Anyway, I've decided to move on and am thinking of going to lxqt. The
>>> problem is that I'm used to several KDE apps, kwooty, kwrite and a few
>>> more. Is it possible to run something such as lxqt and then emerge in
>>> kde apps where it will bring in just a few kde libraries, which I can
>>> live with, but not the whole desktop environment?
>>
>> Yes. Remove all of KDE then emerge back in the apps you want, they have
>> deps on the libs they need. Whatever they pull in is required.
> 
> It is easier than that.
> 
> Edit your /var/lib/portage/world
> Remove anything kde-related you're not explicitly interested in, such
> as kde-meta
> Add anything you are explicitly interested in, such as kwooty or kwrite
> Add kde-apps/kdebase-runtime-meta
> 
> Then run emerge --depclean and watch all the other stuff go away.
> 
> No need to purge yourself of stuff like kdelibs that takes a long time
> to rebuild just to add it back.  Let the dependency manager help you
> out for a change.  :)
> 
> I'm not even certain you need to explicitly add kdebase-runtime-meta -
> other packages might pull that in on their own but I'm not certain of
> that.  Run a --depclean -p first and see what portage wants to get rid
> of before going that route.  Software may-or-may not work correctly
> without that virtual installed and your bugs will be closed as
> invalid.  That virtual is intended to be a somewhat-minimalist one for
> situations like yours, but kde applications still will tend to pull a
> lot of stuff in.
> 

Closing my original question, I followed Alan's advice, fiddled the
world file, and whilst not exactly "hey presto", a few emerge's, some
hand manipulation of a few files and eventually it worked.

It's a bit of a jump, I'd become quite used to Dolphin and whilst
pcmanfm likes to think of itself as a dolphin replacement, it's a long
long way from being so. There is no autohide of the task bar, no
slideshow wallpaper option, I still can't work out automounting of usb's
and plenty more to keep you on your toes.

So thanks for all of your suggestions.

Andrew