Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot (but making progress).

2017-04-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 07:57:49 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > I failed to get grub working (rather, gave up because of the lack of > docs) and went with rEFIt. info grub or https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html Not that I would advise using GRUB on a UEFI system, it's such overkill,

Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild: package specific CFLAGS

2017-04-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 19:10:42 -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > I'm trying to create an ebuild of a crufty old program that needs > -fgnu89-inline in compiler flags to have any chance of building. > > What's the way to do that in an ebuild? I could have something like > > src_configure() { >

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot (but making progress).

2017-04-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, April 29, 2017 1:17:11 AM CEST Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/28/2017 12:51 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Mick and the whole World. > > > > # Load a linux kernel, passing the root filesystem and init process as > > parameters echo "Loading kernel..." > > echo

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get memtest onto a USB drive

2017-04-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 28 Apr 2017 17:11:47 Dale wrote: > >> This is different but I found this that says it works with your setup. >> I don't have one like yours, just googled for a possible solution. >> >> http://www.memtest86.com/technical.htm#usage >> >> If you think that will work,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get memtest onto a USB drive

2017-04-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 29 Apr 2017 02:50:53 Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 28 Apr 2017 17:11:47 Dale wrote: > >> This is different but I found this that says it works with your setup. > >> I don't have one like yours, just googled for a possible solution. > >> > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get memtest onto a USB drive

2017-04-29 Thread Rasmus Thomsen
Hello, actually had that screen happening to me too, but my hardware was fine. Could you try emerging the latest (unstable) memtest86+ package? Symlinking should work with that one. Regards, Rasmus

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot (but making progress).

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Joost. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 20:16:37 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On April 28, 2017 9:51:07 PM GMT+02:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >In the end, I went with grub2, and it has taken a lot of effort to get > >not very far. Grub's documentation is suboptimal. > >The state

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 5.4.0

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > This is something I have noticed that changed since the gcc upgrade. > One, Firefox seems to use less memory. It's not a whole lot less but it > is less for sure. It also uses a lot less CPU power. Used to if I had > two or three Firefox profiles running, I could

[gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. Now able to boot into my new hardware, one of the first things I did was # emerge --sync . Fine. The next thing I tried was # emerge -auND @world , which is probably recommended in the handbook. This was anything but fine. I'm glad I'm not a real Gentoo newby,

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On April 29, 2017 4:39:13 PM GMT+02:00, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >Hello, Gentoo. > >Now able to boot into my new hardware, one of the first things I did >was > ># emerge --sync > >. Fine. The next thing I tried was > ># emerge -auND @world > >, which is probably recommended in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: In search of an truecolor-capable terminal emulator

2017-04-29 Thread Floyd Anderson
On Sa, 29 Apr 05:15:50 +0200 tu...@posteo.de wrote: Hi, before changing my system I took a look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Xorg/Hardware_3D_acceleration_guide Down the page there is a test, whohc on my system reports: glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: Yes

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Mick
On Saturday 29 Apr 2017 14:39:13 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > Now able to boot into my new hardware, one of the first things I did was > > # emerge --sync > > . Fine. The next thing I tried was > > # emerge -auND @world > > , which is probably recommended in the

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 5.4.0

2017-04-29 Thread Dale
Alan Grimes wrote: > Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >> >> This is something I have noticed that changed since the gcc upgrade. >> One, Firefox seems to use less memory. It's not a whole lot less but it >> is less for sure. It also uses a lot less CPU power. Used to if I had >> two or three Firefox

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot [FIXED].

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:56:35 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 20:16:37 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Have you tried connecting using ssh after boot? > > Also, do you have the EFI console support in your kernel? > I didn't, but do now. > More to the

[gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Hi, how is it possible that a package is installed which is not available? eix glibmm [?] dev-cpp/glibmm Verfügbare Versionen: (2) 2.44.0 2.46.4 2.48.1 ~2.50.0 {debug doc examples test ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_PPC="32 64" ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32 64 x32"} Installierte

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread Dale
lee wrote: > Hi, > > how is it possible that a package is installed which is not available? > > > eix glibmm > [?] dev-cpp/glibmm > Verfügbare Versionen: (2) 2.44.0 2.46.4 2.48.1 ~2.50.0 >{debug doc examples test ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_PPC="32 64" > ABI_S390="32 64" ABI_X86="32

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/29/2017 01:38 PM, lee wrote: > !!! existing preserved libs: package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27 > * - /usr/lib64/libbfd-2.25.1.so > * used by > /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.25.1/libopcodes-2.25.1.so > (sys-devel/binutils-2.25.1-r1) > Use emerge @preserved-rebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/29/2017 10:28 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > I found on several systems that using "--backtrack=100" actually resolved the > latest blockers with perl. > I find doing `emerge --oneshot --nodeps perl` then `perl-cleaner --all` was faster. Portage would chug for over five minutes on some of

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Danny YUE writes: > On 2017-04-25 14:29, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> which is at least as good as FTP? >> >> I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and >> missing

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Alan Mackenzie writes: > For a start, I could barely read parts of it, which were displayed in > dark blue text on a black background. Yes, that always annoys me, too. You need to copy it from the terminal and paste it into emacs, and then it's still not exactly readable or even

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Alan McKinnon writes: > On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> which is at least as good as FTP? >> >> I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and >> missing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Kai Krakow writes: > Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 > schrieb lee : > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> which is at least as good as FTP? >> >> I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to use and

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Mick writes: > On Tuesday 25 Apr 2017 16:45:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> > which is at least as good as FTP? >> > >> > I'm aware that there's

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
"Poison BL." writes: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:29 AM, lee wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >> which is at least as good as FTP? >> >> I'm aware that there's webdav, but that's very awkward to

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Poison BL.
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee wrote: > Mick writes: > > > On Tuesday 25 Apr 2017 16:45:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement >

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread Dale
lee wrote: > Dale writes: > >> lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> how is it possible that a package is installed which is not available? >>> >>> >>> eix glibmm >>> [?] dev-cpp/glibmm >>> Verfügbare Versionen: (2) 2.44.0 2.46.4 2.48.1 ~2.50.0 >>>{debug doc examples

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Poison BL.
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:11 PM, lee wrote: > > "Poison BL." writes: > > Half petabyte datasets aren't really something I'd personally *ever* trust > > ftp with in the first place. > > Why not? (12GB are nowhere close to half a petabyte ...) Ah... I

[gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:38:24 +0100 schrieb lee : > Kai Krakow writes: > > > Am Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:29:18 +0100 > > schrieb lee : > > > >> since the usage of FTP seems to be declining, what is a replacement > >> which is at least as

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread lee
"Poison BL." writes: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee wrote: > >> Mick writes: >> >> > On Tuesday 25 Apr 2017 16:45:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > since the usage

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Daniel Frey writes: > On 04/29/2017 01:38 PM, lee wrote: >> !!! existing preserved libs: > package: sys-libs/binutils-libs-2.27 >> * - /usr/lib64/libbfd-2.25.1.so >> * used by >> /usr/lib64/binutils/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.25.1/libopcodes-2.25.1.so >>

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread lee
Dale writes: > lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> how is it possible that a package is installed which is not available? >> >> >> eix glibmm >> [?] dev-cpp/glibmm >> Verfügbare Versionen: (2) 2.44.0 2.46.4 2.48.1 ~2.50.0 >>{debug doc examples test ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32"

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Walter Dnes
> transferring large amounts of data and automatization in processing at > least some of it, without involving a 3rd party > > "Large amounts" can be "small" like 100MB --- or over 50k files in 12GB, > or even more. The mirror feature of lftp is extremely useful for such > things. > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/04/2017 01:01, lee wrote: > > Hi, > > how is it possible that a package is installed which is not available? > > > eix glibmm > [?] dev-cpp/glibmm > Verfügbare Versionen: (2) 2.44.0 2.46.4 2.48.1 ~2.50.0 >{debug doc examples test ABI_MIPS="n32 n64 o32" ABI_PPC="32 64" >

[gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:39:13 + schrieb Alan Mackenzie : > For a start, I could barely read parts of it, which were displayed in > dark blue text on a black background. Setting > up /etc/portage/color.map is not the first thing a new user should > have to do to be able to read

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread R0b0t1
On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:39:13 + > schrieb Alan Mackenzie : > >> For a start, I could barely read parts of it, which were displayed in >> dark blue text on a black background. Setting >> up

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/04/2017 03:11, lee wrote: > "Poison BL." writes: > >> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee wrote: >> >>> Mick writes: >>> On Tuesday 25 Apr 2017 16:45:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 25/04/2017 16:29, lee wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc with graphite flag?

2017-04-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 09:04:19AM -0500, Corbin Bird wrote > On my Gentoo box ... > > [ebuild R] sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3:5.4.0::gentoo USE="cxx fortran > gcj graphite (multilib) nls nptl objc objc++ objc-gc openmp sanitize vtv > (-altivec) (-awt) -cilk -debug -doc (-fixed-point) -go

[gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-04-30 02:23, lee wrote: > > Do a --depclean and that will resolve itself. > > Last time I tried that, it wanted to remove the source of the kernel > I'm using, along with other things. It would have made sense if I had > upgraded the kernel, too, but I didn't have the time to do that

Re: [gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/29/2017 06:23 PM, lee wrote: > Daniel Frey writes: >> Do a --depclean and that will resolve itself. > > Last time I tried that, it wanted to remove the source of the kernel I'm > using, along with other things. It would have made sense if I had > upgraded the kernel,

[gentoo-user] Re: Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:53:50 -0700 schrieb Ian Zimmerman : > On 2017-04-30 02:23, lee wrote: > > > > Do a --depclean and that will resolve itself. > > > > Last time I tried that, it wanted to remove the source of the kernel > > I'm using, along with other things. It would