Re: [gentoo-user] Configure errors

2005-06-05 Thread Ian K
ZeeGeek wrote: On 6/5/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. Geez this is like my 4th post on this list today. ;) I have been trying to install some new styles and stuff for KDE, all with configure scripts. The problem with like all 6 of them is that it always gets this error. Here is

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac-like automounting?

2005-06-05 Thread Rumen Yotov
Michael W. Holdeman wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2005 10:17 am, Oscar Carlsson wrote: I use KDE 3.4.1 with hald and dbus started - and when I plug my usb based mp3-mplayer in, KDE takes care of the mounting etc, and a device icon pops up on my desktop... It's really, really nice! I see

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac-like automounting?

2005-06-05 Thread Rumen Yotov
Rumen Yotov wrote: Correction Michael W. Holdeman wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2005 10:17 am, Oscar Carlsson wrote: I use KDE 3.4.1 with hald and dbus started - and when I plug my usb based mp3-mplayer in, KDE takes care of the mounting etc, and a device icon pops up on my desktop...

Re: [gentoo-user] Configure errors

2005-06-05 Thread Christoph Eckert
--prefix=/usr/kde/3.4 Yep. On my machine, I use a variable. Before running configure, you can therefore try export KDEDIR=/usr/kde/3.4 and then you do not need the prefix option. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread smoke3
Hi guys, suppose you lost /bin/hostname... what could you do in order to make it available again? Is it contained in such a package? Can i get it downloaded from such a mirror? Thanks in advance! S.G. -- You can't learn what you think you know. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread CABILLOT Julien
i'm not sure, but try to re-emerge baselayout Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 10:53 +0200, smoke3 a écrit : Hi guys, suppose you lost /bin/hostname... what could you do in order to make it available again? Is it contained in such a package? Can i get it downloaded from such a mirror? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
--- smoke3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, suppose you lost /bin/hostname... what could you do in order to make it available again? You can use equery from the gentoolkit package: equery belongs /bin/hostname sys-apps/net-tools Zac

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread smoke3
On 6/5/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- smoke3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, suppose you lost /bin/hostname... what could you do in order to make it available again? You can use equery from the gentoolkit package: equery belongs /bin/hostname

Re: [gentoo-user] Mac-like automounting?

2005-06-05 Thread Oscar Carlsson
It was a typo from my side - the package's name is hal, while the service you start is named hald. ie, emerge hal -av Good luck :-) måndagen den 6 juni 2005 09.24 skrev Michael W. Holdeman: On Saturday 04 June 2005 10:17 am, Oscar Carlsson wrote: I use KDE 3.4.1 with hald and dbus started -

[gentoo-user] recording with ALSA dmix? (TeamSpeak problems)

2005-06-05 Thread Peter Gaži
Hi people, I am using kernel-builtin ALSA and dmix for sound, as my sound card doesn't support hardware mixing, but i can't make teamspeak work. I have read on the forums that dmix doesn't support full duplex, so i would like to ask if anyone knows of some hack to get sound recording/microphone

Re: [gentoo-user] [Fwd: baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers]

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
Paul Varner wrote: Forwarded Message From: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers Date: 2005-05-25 22:20:02 GMT so can people please try out baselayout-1.11.12-r2+ and see if they notice any regressions ? the 'best' tests are

Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash

2005-06-05 Thread Holly Bostick
schreef: I think I figured it out. Here is my output: bash-2.05b$ firefox \No running windows found /home/omega21/.gtk_qt_engine_rc:62: error: unexpected character `{', expected character `}' /usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 547: 16841 Segmentation fault $mozbin $@ firefox-bin

Re: [gentoo-user] recording with ALSA dmix? (TeamSpeak problems)

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
Peter Gai wrote: Hi people, I am using kernel-builtin ALSA and dmix for sound, as my sound card doesn't support hardware mixing, but i can't make teamspeak work. I have read on the forums that dmix doesn't support full duplex, so i would like to ask if anyone knows of some hack to get sound

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[gentoo-user] problem with emerg sawfish

2005-06-05 Thread moonspollo
hi all: who can help me? thank you Calculating dependencies Unpacking source... Unpacking rep-gtk-0.18.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/rep-gtk-0.18/work[32;01m* [0m Applying rep-gtk-0.18-gtk24.patch ...[A [121G [34;01m[ [32;01mok [34;01m ] [0m Source unpacked.creating cache ./config.cachechecking

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 11:26:42 +0200, smoke3 wrote: for CABILLOT: I don't like re-emerging baselayout: I took a look onto the .ebuild and I suppose it'll do a mess on my /etc/init.d Only if you have added /etc/init.d to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK or select the press 5 to break everything option in

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub nonsense

2005-06-05 Thread fire-eyes
On Sat, 2005-06-04 at 20:46 -0700, rob3 wrote: My $million advice. Go to www..gnu.org, and just download the Grub source and compile it. Just make a note somewhere on your copy of the Gentoo manual (you did print it out didn't you? haha) that grub is not in the emerge system. It's not? #

[gentoo-user] kde dock and transparency

2005-06-05 Thread Julien Cayzac
Hi, I've just enabled transparency and shadow in KDE, but know the dock is transparent (since it's not always focused). How can I prevent that? Thanks, Julien -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] X11, always have to press space-bar when want some special chars (' ...)

2005-06-05 Thread Christian Parpart
Hi all, I recently had to fully recreate my /home dir that I lost, though, I experienced, that after having get an initial working X11 (/KDE) session, I had to prace the space-bar each time I press some special buttons to get the ' displayed e.g. (or the ). Why is this? I remember, I once

Re: [gentoo-user] X11, always have to press space-bar when want some special chars (' ...)

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 2005-06-05 16:15 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: had to prace the space-bar each time I press some special buttons to get the ' displayed e.g. (or the ). Why is this? Could it be the deadkeys setting? -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread Holly Bostick
maxim wexler schreef: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue... You might want to

Re: [gentoo-user] X11, always have to press space-bar when want some special chars (' ...)

2005-06-05 Thread Mitko Moshev
Christian Parpart wrote: Hi all, I recently had to fully recreate my /home dir that I lost, though, I experienced, that after having get an initial working X11 (/KDE) session, I had to prace the space-bar each time I press some special buttons to get the ' displayed e.g. (or the ). Why is

Re: [gentoo-user] distcc doesn't work

2005-06-05 Thread Rafael Dantas de Castro
On 6/2/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/2/05, Rafael Dantas de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You actually switched the files of the PC's. The --listen arg should have the IP of the LOCAL PC, the one you'll listen IN, not the one you'll listen FROM. That's why you get the

[gentoo-user] k3b failed to rebuild...

2005-06-05 Thread Stoian Ivanov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # rm /usr/portage/distfiles/k3b-0.11.24.tar.bz2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -a k3b These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24 Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] emerge (1 of 1)

Re: [gentoo-user] problem with emerg sawfish

2005-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
moonspollo wrote: libtool: compile:specify a tag with '--tag' make: ***[rep-types.lo] error 1 make: ***waiting for unfinished jobs libtools: compile: specify a tag with '--tag' make: ***[rep-gtk.lo] error 1 !!! error: x11-libs/rep-gtk-0.18 failed. !!! function src_compile, line47,

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:26, smoke3 wrote: for CABILLOT: I don't like re-emerging baselayout: I took a look onto the .ebuild and I suppose it'll do a mess on my /etc/init.d However, TNX!! and? what is the problem? /etc/init.d is nothing where a user has something to change/edit/do.

Re: [gentoo-user] k3b failed to rebuild...

2005-06-05 Thread Rumen Yotov
Stoian Ivanov wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # rm /usr/portage/distfiles/k3b-0.11.24.tar.bz2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -a k3b These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.11.24 Do you want me to merge these packages?

Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuild entire system - recompile all installed packages

2005-06-05 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 13:49:15 + (UTC) Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get only 292. So emerge -De world would NOT re-compile everything that's on my system. Have you done a - regenworld? Sometimes, items get installed and not always put in the world file. Not often, but on

[gentoo-user] KDE3.4.1+hal+dbus media:/ ok but no icon on desktop on new media present

2005-06-05 Thread Stoian Ivanov
Hi all, So I got the KDE, the hal and the dbus up and running. New medias are detected on media:/ still I can't get an icon of the new media on the desktop. What am I missing to complet the look? Somebody on the list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread rob3
Holly Bostick wrote: maxim wexler schreef: Remove the root (hd0,1) line. That should (I hope) let you boot gentoo from the floppy. Arrrgh! Now when I choose Gentoo from the menu: Booting 'Gentoo' kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda4 Error 15: File not found Press any key to continue...

Re: [gentoo-user] recording with ALSA dmix? (TeamSpeak problems)

2005-06-05 Thread Rhywek
Richard Fish wrote: Peter Gai wrote: Hi people, I am using kernel-builtin ALSA and dmix for sound, as my sound card doesn't support hardware mixing, but i can't make teamspeak work. I have read on the forums that dmix doesn't support full duplex, so i would like to ask if anyone knows of

Re: [gentoo-user] XMMS issue

2005-06-05 Thread Christoph Eckert
Noatun though also displays very strange behaviour. It will open and start to play somthing. Then I get an error saying that artsd has crashed. Then Noatun tries to start playing again. It is seriously an endless loop until I can kill both Noatun and the 26 crashed artsd windows with the KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
rob3 wrote: I still recommend that the problem child, so to speak, can be bypassed by simply going to www.gnu.org, and downloading the latest source, and compiling it outside of the Gentoo emerge system. Then when Gentoo gets its ebuild working, you can always go back, doing a search on grub,

Re: [gentoo-user] Now its a make error.

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
Ian K wrote: make[3]: Entering directory `/home/omega21/Asthetics/kxdocker-0.33/doc/en' /usr/kde/3.4/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook /usr/kde/3.4/bin/meinproc: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or

Re: [gentoo-user] XMMS issue

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
Ian K wrote: Hi there, I am having an issue with XMMS. I will open it up, and it seems to work fine. When I open a music file, it will automatically play it, but no sound comes out. (I know its trying to play because the little 'play icon' appears.) The time of the song (00:00) also remains

Re: [gentoo-user] Now its a make error.

2005-06-05 Thread Ian K
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 14:00:33 +, Ian K wrote: I try and make kxdocker manually because there is no portage ebuild (hint hint :) ), There's an ebuild on the kxdocker download page. http://www.xiaprojects.com/www/prodotti/kxdocker/main.php?action=download I

Re: [gentoo-user] Cataloging MP3's

2005-06-05 Thread Urs Schuetz
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005, Patrick wrote: I would like to add all my MP3 info like genre - artists - song and so on, of all the MP3 files that on my server into a mysql database. Is there a program that exists, or must i create my own scripts. TIA Patrick prokyon3 amarok urs --

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread maxim wexler
There are 2 distinct problems here: 1. Booting from floppyMaxim and I are very close to solving this one...only fixing up the grub.conf file remains. Rebuilding grub is not going to help a bit for this problem. In grub.conf commented out root(hd0,1) line; modified kernel line to

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote: There are 2 distinct problems here: 1. Booting from floppyMaxim and I are very close to solving this one...only fixing up the grub.conf file remains. Rebuilding grub is not going to help a bit for this problem. In grub.conf commented out root(hd0,1) line; modified

Re: [gentoo-user] setserial : needed or not ?

2005-06-05 Thread Francisco Ares
Philip Webb wrote: There have been some changes to what's included in 'system' recently. After checking /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages various 'virtuals' it seemed that pkg 'setserial' had been dropped from 'system', so after trying 'qpkg -I -q setserial' without anything listed, I

Re: [gentoo-user] X11, always have to press space-bar when want some special chars (' ...)

2005-06-05 Thread Francisco Ares
Mitko Moshev wrote: Christian Parpart wrote: Hi all, I recently had to fully recreate my /home dir that I lost, though, I experienced, that after having get an initial working X11 (/KDE) session, I had to prace the space-bar each time I press some special buttons to get the ' displayed

Re: [gentoo-user] hostname

2005-06-05 Thread smoke3
On 6/5/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:26, smoke3 wrote: for CABILLOT: I don't like re-emerging baselayout: I took a look onto the .ebuild and I suppose it'll do a mess on my /etc/init.d However, TNX!! and? what is the problem?

Re: [gentoo-user] Random crash

2005-06-05 Thread Holly Bostick
Ian K schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: 2) try a different KDE theme via GTK-QT. I had a lot of problems with Liquid, but Plastic is much simpler and might work fine. This is what worked. I am now using krisp, as opposed to Metal4kde. Glad to hear it. Krisp is pretty nice (I liked it

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo deployment scripts?

2005-06-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 20:55 -0400, Antonino Sabetta wrote: Matthias Bethke wrote: If there were such a script that could copy the binaries and the new files to all the other machines I would probably not trust it! :) why? Isn't this essentially `emerge --buildpkg` ? Have you looked at

[gentoo-user] WMP v.9 files

2005-06-05 Thread Ed Jabbour
If anyone can play the videos at http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/carter_family/artist.jhtml I's appreciate hearing what player you used. Thanks. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] meta-question: how can I receive the messages that I send to the ML?

2005-06-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 21:00 -0400, Antonino Sabetta wrote: Hi all, I apologize for the OT, but probably you know the answer to my question and will be so kind as to tell me whether is there a way to receive my posts I think there's an option when you subscribe that stops the list from sending

[gentoo-user] /boot and booting...

2005-06-05 Thread Digby Tarvin
Following on from the recent discussions on grub and booting, is there a good reason for having a separate partition for /boot, other than perhaps to overcome BIOS addressing limitations for people with very large root partitions?? The reason I ask is that I am quite particular about my

[gentoo-user] the new mod_perl-2.0.0

2005-06-05 Thread Grant
Has anyone tried the new masked mod_perl-2.0.0? I've been waiting for it for a long time to fix my apache2 segfaults, but I can't try it out because it is for the stable apache2 layout and not the new ~x86 one which I use. The changelog says -r1 will soon follow for the new layout. Anyone

[gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-05 Thread Grant
What do you guys use to manage your digital photos? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] tips on my 1st try at iptables?

2005-06-05 Thread Robert G. Hays
[digest-mode reply] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] tips on my 1st try at iptables? From: A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 23:06:36 -0400 (EDT) To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Mon, 30 May 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote: Frankly, I've stopped trying to grok iptables but

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot and booting...

2005-06-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 06 June 2005 03:02, Digby Tarvin wrote: Following on from the recent discussions on grub and booting, is there a good reason for having a separate partition for /boot, other than perhaps to overcome BIOS addressing limitations for people with very large root partitions?? security.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CFLAGS CPU optimization question.

2005-06-05 Thread Robert G. Hays
[digest-mode reply] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CFLAGS CPU optimization question. From: Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:08:30 -0300 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sorry for taking this long to answer. I suggest any unprivileged port that

Re: [gentoo-user] Scaning of outgoing email

2005-06-05 Thread John Drouhard
On Sunday 05 June 2005 2:08 pm, Patrick wrote: Hi, I have setup a home mail server according to a how-to on the forum, now i would like to expand this setup with the scanning of outgoing emails and a footer after the scanning. Until now i didn't find a how-to for this, can anyone put me in

Re: [gentoo-user] MyOSS Magazine - Edition 2 Available Now

2005-06-05 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote: http://mag.my-opensource.org/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=28Itemid=54 Mambo heh? One of the defauly templates too. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.4.1 released

2005-06-05 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Sunday 05 June 2005 10:39 pm, Robert G. Hays wrote: [digest-mode reply] ... my PC is next to my boyfriend's. ... Holly, do you have any idea how many hearts (just about including mine, at this point!) you just broke with that statement? big grin Ya here too, (but my wife is ok with

Re: [gentoo-user] difficulty installing gentoo on AMD sempron

2005-06-05 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Zac, I was having the same problem and this fixed it for me. It makes me wonder why was this necessary? The bootstrap script probably works fine with the 2005.0

Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-05 Thread maxim wexler
to copy your kernel to the floppy also, and load it from there. Your kernel is going to have to be fairly petite to fit...probably less than 1.2M or so. the kernel is already 1.57M. Are you saying I should reconfig the kernel? I recall modularizing most of the stuff I wouldn't need until

Re: [gentoo-user] difficulty installing gentoo on AMD sempron

2005-06-05 Thread Zac Medico
--- Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Zac, I was having the same problem and this fixed it for me. It makes me wonder why was this necessary?

[gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??

2005-06-05 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
Anyone else have trouble with this upgrade? Mine complained about some sort of version mismatch, claiming the last installed was not 1.0.7664 but 1.0.7174? Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8

Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-05 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:58:20 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys use to manage your digital photos? [ I] media-gfx/digikam (0.7.1): digiKam is a digital photo management application for KDE. You only need parts of KDE, not everything. I run it under Enlightenment. Bob --

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??

2005-06-05 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:06:06 -0400 Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else have trouble with this upgrade? Mine complained about some sort of version mismatch, claiming the last installed was not 1.0.7664 but 1.0.7174? Mine went fine with the upgrade on an 2 amd64 and one

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Parrish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael W. Holdeman wrote: Anyone else have trouble with this upgrade? Mine complained about some sort of version mismatch, claiming the last installed was not 1.0.7664 but 1.0.7174? Mike Yeah a friend of mine is going through this now. I

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-kernel-1.0.7664??

2005-06-05 Thread Dan Parrish
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Parrish wrote: Michael W. Holdeman wrote: Anyone else have trouble with this upgrade? Mine complained about some sort of version mismatch, claiming the last installed was not 1.0.7664 but 1.0.7174? Mike Yeah a friend of mine is going

Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-05 Thread Greg Bur
On 6/5/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys use to manage your digital photos? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I use Eye of Gnome most of the time but I also like gThumb and earlier tonight I found an interesting app called Pornview which seems very full

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot and booting...

2005-06-05 Thread Rumen Yotov
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Monday 06 June 2005 03:02, Digby Tarvin wrote: Following on from the recent discussions on grub and booting, is there a good reason for having a separate partition for /boot, other than perhaps to overcome BIOS addressing limitations for people with very large

Re: [gentoo-user] photo management

2005-06-05 Thread Bob Sanders
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:58:48 -0400 Simon Castillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob: does that works with gnome? If it doesn't... what about the Gnome desktop enviroment users? I don't have a full gnome nor kde install. I just use what I need from gnome and kde. I've not had problems with any

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot and booting...

2005-06-05 Thread Richard Fish
Digby Tarvin wrote: Following on from the recent discussions on grub and booting, is there a good reason for having a separate partition for /boot, other than perhaps to overcome BIOS addressing limitations for people with very large root partitions?? Well, I do it for 2 reasons: 1. To make