Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp problems

2006-03-31 Thread Mick
On 31/03/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:18:35 -0500
 Nick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have tried both those options, and have even tried just a static ip
  address just in case dhcp was messed up, and it still gives me that
  Function not implemented error message.
  I have done 3 different installs of gentoo, recompiled different
  modules for the network card etc to no avail.  how is it that it can
  work with ubuntu and suse, but i cant get the darned thing to work in
  gentoo, the OS i really want on my laptop ;-)
 
  any more ideas?
 
  thanks
 
  Nick

 I don't have the original thread anymore.  What type of laptop?  What
 type of network card?  Internal wireless?

Sorry, I have no ideas to contribute.  I am similarly confused about a
laptop I just got.  It is a Compaq Evo N600c (82801CAM (ICH3) PRO.100
VM (KM) Ethernet Controller which I run with the e100 module).  I use
dhcpcd and the darn thing will take ages to get an address from the
router.  Some times I have to reboot both.  Other boxen on the same
lan get an IP address in nanoseconds!

Please let us know if you crack this one.
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[gentoo-user] samsung network printer on amd64 - only half page printed

2006-03-31 Thread Istvan Pongracz
Hi,

I have a problem on my amd64 system.
I put a fresh x64 gentoo install to an amd64 machine about a month ago.
Now I bought a Samsung CLP 510N network printer and tried to use under
64 bit gentoo.

So, after hacking setup.sh (correct lib paths for 32 bit compatibility
libraries) I installed the samsung's config programs, drivers etc.,
using cups as printing system.

Now, the problem is:
if I print out a document from openoffice 2, I got exactly the half
pages. I mean, if I print out 3 pages, I got 1st page correctly, second
contains only the upper half, the left simply missing.

If I print one page, I got a half.

This problem happens, when I print a test page under linux-config, which
is the samsung provided utility.

BUT. If I print a test page from Webmin (1.250), I got a full page,
without problem.

On my laptop, which is a 32 bit system, the printing working well to the
same printer, using the same drivers, which are installed to the 64 bit
system.

I googled around and I found lot of cups related issues with amd64,
mostly from year 2005.
My problem definitely was not there.
I dig at www.gentoo.org printing howto, but there is no solution.
I also tried to find something at samsung site, there is nothing.

Does anybody know this issue or have an idea, how to solve this situation?
Now, printing is more or less useless for me in amd64 environment.


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannt open root device ?

2006-03-31 Thread no on3

 - Original Message -
 From: Bo Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] cannt open root device ?
 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:18 +0800
 
 
 Hello everybody :
 I know maybe my question is just a piece of cake for you , but
 I have struggled with it for 4 days , and I didn't get any answer from
 the google and the archive .
 So I came here !
 
 And my problem is that :
 I use VMware , and install gentoo linux on the vm which hold a scsi disk
 . I compile the linux kernel with scsi support in the kernel self , but
 when boot up the kernel panic with the bellow message :
 VFS: Cannot open root device 803 or unkonw-block(8,3)
 Please append a correct root= boot option
 
 But I have a line in my lilo.conf : root=/dev/sda3
 
 I have recompile the kernel for many times , but it panic everytime .
 
 Thanks in advance !
 
 Best Regard !
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Although I have never used VMware, I have had the same error message before. 
It turned out that I had either forgot to put support for the file system in 
the kernel that my partition was formatted in, or that I had mistyped the root= 
line. I can also tell you that if you used genkernel to build your kernel (but 
it sounds like you didn't) it requires several different kernel parameters to 
boot. Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and OpenLDAP

2006-03-31 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
I'll tell you what, I'm kind of busy right now. But, when I have more
time on my hands, I'll post a full HOWTO on the Gentoo Wiki. What do
you think?

2006/3/29, Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Are you the kinf of person that hold the information just for you?
 Your problem/solution can help other people.

 Leandro.

 On 3/29/06, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That won't be necessary, I've already solved it.
 
  2006/3/27, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:19:55 -0300
   Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
A little bit OT, a very noobish of me. I'm having trouble with LDAP
filters. I'm still trying to get the hang of it.
   
I'd like filter to use on the Apache mod_auth_ldap that returns all
the uids inside a given group. Anyone knows how to do that?
   
Regards,
   
Raphael
  
   Start a new thread with a topic like OT: LDAP Filters and I can try
   to give you some direction.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 for notebook/pentium-m

2006-03-31 Thread jarry
Thanks to everyone who replied (Willie, Daniel, Todor...)

Just out of curiosity: how long (approximately) does it take
to install a common gentoo-desktop (with X+KDE) on a notebook
(pentium-m 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM)? So that I knew how much time
to reserve for it...

BTW, I'm a little afraid of possible overheating, as notebooks
are usually not expected to work under high load for long time...

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 for notebook/pentium-m

2006-03-31 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#Pentium-M_.2F_Centrino_.28Intel.29

Hope this answers you.

2006/3/30, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Gentoo-fans,

 I want to install gentoo on my pentium-m (centrino 2)
 based notebook, but I do not know which stage3 should
 I download and use: i586, i686 or x86?
 And which -march setting should I define for Pentium-M?

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 for notebook/pentium-m

2006-03-31 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Freitag, den 31.03.2006, 10:12 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks to everyone who replied (Willie, Daniel, Todor...)
 
 Just out of curiosity: how long (approximately) does it take
 to install a common gentoo-desktop (with X+KDE) on a notebook
 (pentium-m 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM)? So that I knew how much time
 to reserve for it...

I have a 1.6 GHz Pentium-M with 512 MB RAM and I find that little beast
a noch faster than my P4 2.4 desktop with 512 MB. I compiled a full
blown Gnome environment including Firefox and OpenOffice 2 in less then
a day. I didn't recognize temperature issues - every now and then the
cooler turned on for a couple of minutes and that was it.

 
 BTW, I'm a little afraid of possible overheating, as notebooks
 are usually not expected to work under high load for long time...
 
 Jarry
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: bash scripting: implement uninterruptable sleep

2006-03-31 Thread Sascha Lucas

Hi,

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Richard Fish wrote:


On 3/28/06, Sascha Lucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a shell script and want a uninterruptable sleep. /usr/bin/sleep
itself seems to have its own signal handlers. How is it possible to sleep
uninterruptable?


trap echo 'Ctrl+C should not work' INT
now=`date +%s`
expires=$(( $now + 10 ))
while test $now -lt $expires; do
   sleep $(( $expires - $now ))
   now=`date +%s`
done


excellent! take system time and loop sleep until time is over.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge inforamtion

2006-03-31 Thread Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales
Just adding something. Since the package is already installed, you can type:

equery u net-print/hplip

It should give you a description of what each USE flag means. And it
works with every package.

If you get a command not found error, emerge gentoolkit to get the
equery program :)

Regards,

Raphael

2006/3/30, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 USE flags doubts (again).
 
 If I run this command:
 
 emerge -pv hplip
 
 the output is:
 [ebuild   R   ] net-print/hplip-0.9.7-r3  +X +cups +foomaticdb -ppds +qt
 +scanner* -snmp +usb 0 kB
 
 There are 5 flags prefixed by a plus and red coloured (+X, +cups, 
 +foomaticdb,
 +qt and +usb). These flags are already set. Right?
 
 

 The plus sign means that it will be compiled with support for that
 flag.  It means you can use that basically.

 There are 2 flags prefixed by a menus and blue coloured (-ppds and -snmp).
 These flags are not set. But, should I set them?
 
 

 It depends on whether you will use them or not.  This is what that flag
 is for:  ppds - Adds support for automatically generated ppd (printing
 driver) files.  If you need it, edit make.conf file and put it in the
 USE= line.  The snmp is this:  snmp - Adds support for the Simple
 Network Management Protocol if available.  You can get the same info
 from here:  /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc

 Finally there is anoter flag prefixed by a plus and green coloured
 (+scanner*). What does the trailing * mean? What does the green colour mean?
 
 Thank you a lot in advance.
 
 emilio
 
 
 

 If I recall correctly, that * means it has been changed since the
 program was instaled.  If you changed some flags recently, you may want
 to do a emerge -Nvp world to see what else has changed.  If everything
 looks OK, take off the p and let it recompile those for you so it will
 work correctly.

 Hope that helps.

 Dale
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...

2006-03-31 Thread Peter
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:26:57 +0300, Alexander Kirillov wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I needed to restart sendmail more than once after upgrade
 and noticed the script always produces these warnings:
 
 # /etc/init.d/sendmail restart
   * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
   * Stopping sendmail ... [ok]
   * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
   * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
   * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
   * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
   * Starting sendmail ... [ok]
 
 What might be wrong here?
 
 TIA,
 Sasha

I have seen this too recently with samba, vmware, ntpd, privoxy and others
(but not always) during both startup and shutdown sequences. I think something 
has changed in the init scripts. Everything seems to work OK and there is 
nothing in the logs indicating anything wrong.

Example:

mars peter # /etc/init.d/privoxy stop
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Stopping privoxy ...   [ ok ]
mars peter # /etc/init.d/privoxy start
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Starting privoxy ...   [ ok ]

Not sure what's being cached or recached. Makes no sense to me.
Ideas?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuration Errors

2006-03-31 Thread Benno Schulenberg
CR Little wrote:
 configuration error - unknown item 'FAILLOG_ENAB' (notify
 administrator) configuration error - unknown item 'LASTLOG_ENAB'

Run etc-update.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannt open root device ?

2006-03-31 Thread Fernando Antunes
Did you read this ?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_VMware_in_Windows_NT/2K/XP

Maybe, your right SCSI driver is not enable in the kernel.On 3/31/06, Bo Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everybody :I know maybe my question is just a piece of cake for you , but
I have struggled with it for 4 days , and I didn't get any answer fromthe google and the archive .So I came here !And my problem is that :I use VMware , and install gentoo linux on the vm which hold a scsi disk
. I compile the linux kernel with scsi support in the kernel self , butwhen boot up the kernel panic with the bellow message :VFS: Cannot open root device 803 or unkonw-block(8,3)Please append a correct root= boot option
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[gentoo-user] Emerge --sync: what was done ?

2006-03-31 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 I would like to get an info from emerge, what packages were updated
 without to pipe all the output of the --sync-process into a file.

 Is this possible somehow ?

 Keep hacking!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync: what was done ?

2006-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:17:26 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

  I would like to get an info from emerge, what packages were updated
  without to pipe all the output of the --sync-process into a file.

emerge eix and then use eix-sync instead of emerge --sync.


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[gentoo-user] System bell

2006-03-31 Thread contiemilio
Hi all, 
after emerging and emerging . . .
and an enrge --newuse world
the system bell keeps on not working.
With System bell I mean:
KDE Control Center - Sound  Miltimedia - System bell

I controlled the volume levels on kmix and aumix.

I do not know which other attempt to try.

Bye
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[gentoo-user] Re: apache2 without DNS?

2006-03-31 Thread James
Michael Stewart (vericgar vericgar at gentoo.org writes:


  http://192.168.2.9/  pops up the usually apache2 default page
  
  But I cannot get to the 
  /var/www/localhost/htdocs/htdocs/admin/setup.php page, from a web browser
  running on neither the server, nor anywhere on the network. The default
  apache2 page does pop up on a web browser from any machine on
  the network, including the apache2 server.

 I may be misunderstanding your question, so please clarify if I have.

 Are you looking for the URL you need to type in your browser to get to
 the setup script? Assuming that you haven't changed the DocumentRoot
 setting, try using http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/setup.php


Nothing but the default apache2 web page popped up in the beginning.
The I went and changed all of the files and directory permissions to 777.
Now I can get this dir page:

http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/
and this one:
http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/adm/test.php
the only other page in dir 'http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/adm/'
that shows up, contains this error message:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: html() in
/opt/jffnms/htdocs/admin/adm/structures.php on line 701

I did not change the 'DocumentRoot' but, which file to I check to
see if installing JFFNMS altered something erroneously?

I followed this guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/jffnms.xml

So far the only error I have 'flushed out' is
# psql template1 postgres 
/usr/portage/net-analyzer/jffnms/files/postgresql_db_tables
should be:
# psql template1 postgres 
/usr/portage/net-analyzer/jffnms/files/postgresql_db_table

Which file(s) do I need to check to ensure the DocumentRoot is correct?
I cannot locate that setting in either httpd.conf nor apache2.conf.


James





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Re: [gentoo-user] System bell

2006-03-31 Thread David Morgan
On 16:46 Fri 31 Mar , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all, 
 after emerging and emerging . . .
 and an enrge --newuse world
 the system bell keeps on not working.
 With System bell I mean:
 KDE Control Center - Sound  Miltimedia - System bell
 
 I controlled the volume levels on kmix and aumix.
 
 I do not know which other attempt to try.
 
 Bye
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[gentoo-user] Re: apache2 without DNS?

2006-03-31 Thread James
Michael Stewart (vericgar vericgar at gentoo.org writes:


 Are you looking for the URL you need to type in your browser to get to
 the setup script? Assuming that you haven't changed the DocumentRoot
 setting, try using http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/setup.php

I found the error_log file  so I'm running:
tail -f /var/log/apache2/error_log

When I attempt to access this URL, I get this message:

[Fri Mar 31 06:20:44 2006] [error] [client 192.168.2.23] File does not exist:
/var/www/localhost/htdocs/jffnms, referer:
http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/tools.php/admin/setup.php

maybe a botched installation of jffnms, as the guide is new and I'm 
far from confident with apache2?
ideas?

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[gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread Marco Costa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all, 
after emerging and emerging . . .

and an enrge --newuse world
the system bell keeps on not working.
With System bell I mean:
KDE Control Center - Sound  Miltimedia - System bell

I controlled the volume levels on kmix and aumix.

I do not know which other attempt to try.

Bye
emilio


As far as I understand, it should beep the motherboard speaker. Verify 
if you have it connected or if you need to connect it to the sound board 
somehow.


Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] stage3 for notebook/pentium-m

2006-03-31 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:03:58AM +0200, Penguin Lover Heinz Sporn squawked:
 Am Freitag, den 31.03.2006, 10:12 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Thanks to everyone who replied (Willie, Daniel, Todor...)
  
  Just out of curiosity: how long (approximately) does it take
  to install a common gentoo-desktop (with X+KDE) on a notebook
  (pentium-m 1.6GHz, 1GB RAM)? So that I knew how much time
  to reserve for it...
 
 I have a 1.6 GHz Pentium-M with 512 MB RAM and I find that little beast
 a noch faster than my P4 2.4 desktop with 512 MB. I compiled a full
 blown Gnome environment including Firefox and OpenOffice 2 in less then
 a day. I didn't recognize temperature issues - every now and then the
 cooler turned on for a couple of minutes and that was it.
 

My experience is similar, though I'd say my laptop and desktop are
just about as fast (1.6PM+512ram vs 2.0P4+512ram). My last 
'emerge -e world' on the laptop took just under 2 days: I don't
have any large packages like KDE or Gnome or OO, but that's also with
a lot of crap that I installed which is not necessary for a base
system. 

If you leave you laptop in a well ventilated area, overheating
shouldn't be an issue. 

As a side question, there used to be an option with 'genlop' which you
can pipe to it the output from 'emerge --pretend' and show the
expected total merge time. Is there a way of doing this with 'qlop'? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...

2006-03-31 Thread Alexander Kirillov

I needed to restart sendmail more than once after upgrade
and noticed the script always produces these warnings:

# /etc/init.d/sendmail restart
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Stopping sendmail ... [ok]
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
 * Starting sendmail ... [ok]

What might be wrong here?


I have seen this too recently with samba, vmware, ntpd, privoxy and others
(but not always) during both startup and shutdown sequences. I think something 
has changed in the init scripts. Everything seems to work OK and there is 
nothing in the logs indicating anything wrong.


Not sure what's being cached or recached. Makes no sense to me.
Ideas?


The problem went away and I don't really know why... Probably a reboot.
I also had 2 packages providing firewall service installed at the time.
I've tried to reproduce the problem reinstalling one of them
before writing this reply. Nope. What else?
hw clock on this box is set to local time.
But this happened well after baselayout upgrade
and well after the last reboot.
And sendmail was the only service giving the troubles.
I'm sure I had to restart several others
without any problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Marco Costa wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, after emerging and emerging . . .
 and an enrge --newuse world
 the system bell keeps on not working.
 With System bell I mean:
 KDE Control Center - Sound  Miltimedia - System bell

 I controlled the volume levels on kmix and aumix.

 I do not know which other attempt to try.

 Bye
 emilio


 As far as I understand, it should beep the motherboard speaker. Verify
 if you have it connected or if you need to connect it to the sound
 board somehow.

 Regards,

 Marco

Same here.  I just thought it was me changing something and not
remembering it.  It used to work though.  I suspect a etc-update somewhere.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread Mick
On 31/03/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marco Costa wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all, after emerging and emerging . . .
  and an enrge --newuse world
  the system bell keeps on not working.
  With System bell I mean:
  KDE Control Center - Sound  Miltimedia - System bell
 
  I controlled the volume levels on kmix and aumix.
 
  I do not know which other attempt to try.
 
  Bye
  emilio
 
 
  As far as I understand, it should beep the motherboard speaker. Verify
  if you have it connected or if you need to connect it to the sound
  board somehow.
 
  Regards,
 
  Marco
 
 Same here.  I just thought it was me changing something and not
 remembering it.  It used to work though.  I suspect a etc-update somewhere.

Did any of you recompile a kernel and left the misc. device setting off?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread David Morgan
On 11:18 Fri 31 Mar , Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Same here.  I just thought it was me changing something and not
 remembering it.  It used to work though.  I suspect a etc-update somewhere.
 

Ahh, you weren't clear about whether or not it had stopped working or
had never worked.

Does it work when you aren't running X? And in X try running `xset b` (I
don't know anything about KDE though, you might like to try running
something else when trying to track down the problem (twm would do)).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Mick wrote:

On 31/03/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


Same here.  I just thought it was me changing something and not
remembering it.  It used to work though.  I suspect a etc-update somewhere.



Did any of you recompile a kernel and left the misc. device setting off?


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I always copy my config over and do a make oldconfig.  I *assume* it
would leave it on if I had it on before.  I'll check it later though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System bell

2006-03-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
David Morgan wrote:

On 11:18 Fri 31 Mar , Teresa and Dale wrote:
  

Same here.  I just thought it was me changing something and not
remembering it.  It used to work though.  I suspect a etc-update somewhere.




Ahh, you weren't clear about whether or not it had stopped working or
had never worked.

Does it work when you aren't running X? And in X try running `xset b` (I
don't know anything about KDE though, you might like to try running
something else when trying to track down the problem (twm would do)).

  


Keep in mind that I am not the thread starter.  I am just noticing the
same thing.  I think it changed when I upgraded to KDE 3.5 from KDE
3.4.  I'm not positive though.  I don't upgrade my kernel to often.  I
don't reboot enough for all that.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync: what was done ?

2006-03-31 Thread Erik Walther
less /var/log/emerge.log

Followed by a lot of PgDn :)
On 3/31/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:17:26 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:I would like to get an info from emerge, what packages were updated
without to pipe all the output of the --sync-process into a file.emerge eix and then use eix-sync instead of emerge --sync.--Neil BothwickThose who can, do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who cannot teach, HACK!



Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync: what was done ?

2006-03-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:50:36 +0200, Erik Walther wrote:

 less /var/log/emerge.log
 
 Followed by a lot of PgDn :)

That tells you what emerge --update updated, not emerge --sync. If you
want that, try genlop --list --date yesterday.


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[gentoo-user] Reiserfs partition corrupted - help!

2006-03-31 Thread Anthony Roy
Hi All,

Last night I decided to set up a rsync server on my gentoo server box.
I have a partition mounted under /srv, and that was the disk the rsync
module was located on. I then proceeded to rsync the contents of my
main PC over to the server. I tested the scripts a few times first to
ensure that things were working OK, and indeed they were. I then set
it running when I went to bed.

This morning I wake up to find the server had crashed and was
inaccessible. All processes seemed to have shut down. Rebooting the
computer resulted in the reiserfsck being run - and failing!!

I have tried reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/hdc6 and I get a complaint
that the filesystem could not be rebuilt

bread: Cannot read the block (87878789) (Input/Output error)

It also suggests (aside from buying a new disk!) to try overwriting
the blocks if there are only a few of them. How do I go about doing
this?? And does anyone have any other suggestions on how to recover
the filesystem?

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/30/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy,

 After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering
 ebuild testing,
 I decided to give Xgl a try.

Neat-o.  Is it in the ~x86 area?

 The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.  Big THANK YOU to those
 responsible!

 The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.

I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?

 Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.  Not pretty.  :-(
 I figured I could live:
 * with old fashioned decorations,
 * without my background image,
 * with my panel stretching across both monitors,
 * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display,
 * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.

Can you try and get me some more detailed info?  I'm a information
gatherer for the Xgl project.  I'm supposed to be ensuring that it has
perfect integration with KDE.

 But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.  So bye-bye Xgl.

Even more interesting...  Could you get some more info for me there
too?  Perhaps a few clips from the log file?

 OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use
 gnome.
 Next gen KDE should have similar features.

 Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it
 looks. :-)

It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland.  It's useable, though
I can't say it's much more...

 Installed gnome.

Weee...  have fun?

 Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome
 sessions.  I don't really see how to do this with one display manager.
 Not sure
 how to configure to run multiple display managers.  Currently I use xdm
 to run
 kdm.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thank you,
 Roy

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Re: [gentoo-user] Reiserfs partition corrupted - help!

2006-03-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Anthony Roy wrote:

Hi All,

Last night I decided to set up a rsync server on my gentoo server box.
I have a partition mounted under /srv, and that was the disk the rsync
module was located on. I then proceeded to rsync the contents of my
main PC over to the server. I tested the scripts a few times first to
ensure that things were working OK, and indeed they were. I then set
it running when I went to bed.

This morning I wake up to find the server had crashed and was
inaccessible. All processes seemed to have shut down. Rebooting the
computer resulted in the reiserfsck being run - and failing!!

I have tried reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/hdc6 and I get a complaint
that the filesystem could not be rebuilt

bread: Cannot read the block (87878789) (Input/Output error)

It also suggests (aside from buying a new disk!) to try overwriting
the blocks if there are only a few of them. How do I go about doing
this?? And does anyone have any other suggestions on how to recover
the filesystem?

Cheers,

--
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Google found this: 
http://www.linuxpackages.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9208sid=7a741429de5dcddf32c3ff133d202d01

This is how I did my search: 
http://www.google.com/linux?num=100hl=enlr=lang_ensafe=offq=%22Cannot+read+the+block%22+%22%28Input%2FOutput+error%29%22btnG=Search

I have some use, sometimes anyway. 

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Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Intel Core Duo Processor - Anyone?

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/30/06, Mike Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just my .02c, but it seems like the 64-bit processors come with more
 hype than benefits.  Not that the 64-bit move is a bad thing at all,
 but I mean it just seems like people tend to expect much more out of
 them than what they should.

You're very close to the mark, actually.

 It would seem like a more accurate, but oversimplified explaination
 would be that it simply allows for other improvements within the
 computer, but it does not improve anything on it's own.  For instance,

Yes, you're very close.  It does allow for one major thing OTTOH. 
With a 64-bit wide word, more precise calculations take half the time
they would on a 32-bit chip.  They don't give any other real major
64-bit exclusive benefits though.  The advantages of a 64-bit variable
isn't really relevant for most uses though.  Things like MatLab are
greatly benefitted, however, normal desktop use isn't.  Some video
games are now being made 64-bit, so they'll benefit from more precise
gameplay at higher speeds, however, you are right: 64-bit en se
doesn't give any other amazing benefit.

 allowing 4GB ram, which in turn gives better performance.  From what
 I've read, there are improvements in certain things that are specific
 to number crunching, like a database with mathematical formulas.

Yup.

 However, for a desktop processor, the difference is going to be barely
 noticeable, if any, especially since most desktops don't use more than
 4 gigs of ram.

True.  However, sticking to 32-bit for the rest of forever isn't a
terribly good idea, now is it?

 It definitely seems to be a difficult thing to explain though due to
 the nature of the processor.  Most people think simply 'more numbers =
 more speed', but that's not really case, and surely not the point.
 Since around the mid 90's, processor speeds have steadily increased,
 but in the last couple of years, that increase has halted.

Not really.  AMD is still making their chips more efficient and
faster, though the new fad is to add more cores.  However, eventually
this will still limit threads to the speed of one core, which'll
prompt more and more rapid speed increases.  Just be patient; you
don't need all that number-crunching power right now, do you? ; )

 Supposedly, the speeds have been maxed out for the size of the
 processors, so that's why the manufacturers are trying different
 routes, like hyperthreading, dual core, multi-core, and 64-bit.  None

Well, they also need to make the thing smaller.  We're still on what? 
95 nanometre?  Smaller means more transistors in the same area.

 of these features directly improve performance, but they do increase
 it's capabilities.  More specifically, they allow the computer to do
 MORE tasks better, instead of focusing on speeding up tasks.  That's
 not a bad thing really, because it's nice to be able to do multiple
 things simultaneously, like burning a cd while listening to mp3s and
 playing games on a LAMP server that's running emerge -u world without
 any degradation in performance in any of the processes.

People who do that scare me.

 That kind of performance seems to be what is intended with these
 different avenues that the chip makers are taking.  That is not to say
 that single tasks will perform any better, and I think the lack of
 discerning the difference is causing a lot of confusion for most
 people, especially when they aren't familiar with low level
 programming.

In the end this might degenerate to a programmer's rating thing. 
IE: one standardised benchmark.

 On 3/29/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 3/29/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   www.alienware.com  I beg to differ.  I could have sworn I saw a laptop
   with more than 2G...  where was it... wow!  You appear to be right!
   Darn.. I could have SWORN I saw something with  2G...
 
  Actually, you are right.  I neglected the monstrous Clevo laptop.  Its
  an AMD X2 with capacity for 2 optical drives plus 2 hard drives, up to
  3G of memory, and a 200W power adapter.  Weighs 12-15 lbs, _not_
  counting the power adapter!  This is acutally a Clevo design, sold by
  Sager, AGearnotebooks, and many others.  Alienware got it with a
  customized case.  All of the reviews I read on it basically said
  incredible performance, excellent display, but heavy, noisy, and
  really hard to describe how large it really is.
 
  I was actually considering purchasing this beast...but the noise
  factor scared me off.  Not really appropriate for a shared office or
  conference room.
 
   compiler helps with the 64-bit part.  It gets a bit technical, but
   there is a big difference between something made from the ground up as
   64-bit versus something that was made 32-bit and just recompiled
   64-bit.
 
  For most applications, this is not true.  The vast majority of C/C++
  code that runs on a desktop system couldn't care less whether longs
  and pointers are 32-bits or 64-bits in size.  It is a compiler
  

[gentoo-user] BSD /usr/bin/from

2006-03-31 Thread Chen-Mou Cheng
Greetings,

I am wondering whether gentoo has any portage containing equivalents
to the /usr/bin/from on *BSD; it's a small program that prints names
of those who have sent mail.  Thanks in advance for any help/comments!

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Firefox + Thunderbird 1.5

2006-03-31 Thread PaulNM

Hi All,

	I had looked into this awhile ago, but put it aside.  Does anyone know 
anything about the status of Firefox 1.5 final and Thunderbird 1.5 final 
as far as getting into stable? Also, are any of the ~x86 ebuilds the 
final version, as opposed to a 1.5 beta?  I see a mention in a bug 
report comment for Firefox back in 2006-02-05 that it might be stable in 
a few days, which hasn't happened.


	Does anyone have more information about this, or know of better places 
to look than bug reports?


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

2006-03-31 Thread Jason Weisberger
As far as I know, you can still only get Xgl from a portage overlay. Check the Gentoo Forums and you'll find a bunch of links to what you're looking for. I've had it working for some time, and it's good, but extremely buggy and not suitable for production environments (obviously :)
Here's part three of the huge Xgl discussion. Part 1 is where the original overlay is at:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-442410-highlight-xgl.html
On 3/31/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/30/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, After playing with the Kororaa Xgl Live CD, then with Xorg 7 entering ebuild testing, I decided to give Xgl a try.
Neat-o.Is it in the ~x86 area? The xorg 7 upgrade went extremely smooth.Big THANK YOU to those responsible! The wiki instructions for installing Xgl worked too.I'm extremely interested in Xgl.I didn't know it was hanging around
Gentoo.Can you send me the link? Then I discovered what gnome-window-decorator does in KDE.Not pretty.:-( I figured I could live: * with old fashioned decorations, * without my background image,
 * with my panel stretching across both monitors, * with windows opening centered on the desktop vs on a display, * with some brain dead right mouse desktop popup menu.Can you try and get me some more detailed info?I'm a information
gatherer for the Xgl project.I'm supposed to be ensuring that it hasperfect integration with KDE. But I couldn't live with a dead X the next morning.So bye-bye Xgl.Even more interesting...Could you get some more info for me there
too?Perhaps a few clips from the log file? OK, off to the net to see what I could find, which distilled down to use gnome. Next gen KDE should have similar features. Well, I've never really gave gnome a try, so maybe it's not as bad as it
 looks. :-)It's not *bad,* but I find it incredibly bland.It's useable, thoughI can't say it's much more... Installed gnome.Weee...have fun? Now what I'd really like is to be able to switch between X+KDE and Xgl+gnome
 sessions.I don't really see how to do this with one display manager. Not sure how to configure to run multiple display managers.Currently I use xdm to run kdm. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl, KDE, gnome

2006-03-31 Thread Alexander Skwar

Lord Sauron wrote:


I'm extremely interested in Xgl.  I didn't know it was hanging around
Gentoo.  Can you send me the link?


See the frontpage of http://gentoo-wiki.com/ or at least
the Howto section.

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[gentoo-user] MOSTLY FIXED: Re: apache2 without DNS?

2006-03-31 Thread James
Michael Stewart (vericgar vericgar at gentoo.org writes:


 Are you looking for the URL you need to type in your browser to get to
 the setup script? Assuming that you haven't changed the DocumentRoot
 setting, try using http://192.168.2.9/htdocs/admin/setup.php


Well, I tried the installation from fresh and now I can get to the 
setup.php page, but I still have a few questions.

During the installation I made these changes, which I'll post to bugzilla
about the document's installation instructions:

As user postgres, following the install guide, I issued this command:
 initdb -D /var/lib/postgresql/data

which failed:
initdb: could not create directory /var/lib/postgresql: Permission denied

I had to 'chmod 777 /var/lib' to allow the  installation to progress.

Is this OK? a security/problem ?

Then it said:

The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user
postgres.
This user must also own the server process.

Which 'server process' is it referring to and what does this mean,
exactly? What else, if anything do I need to do?


The message then ended with:
WARNING: enabling trust authentication for local connections
You can change this by editing pg_hba.conf or using the -A option the
next time you run initdb.

Success. You can now start the database server using:

postmaster -D /var/lib/postgresql/data
or
pg_ctl -D /var/lib/postgresql/data -l logfile start


I never did either of these, unlike last time, and the installation 
completed with only one more modification. However, I'm not sure
if I need to add these to some config  file somewhere? Or is the
postgres startup file ok at this point? I guess I also need to
figure out the authentication using the 'pg_hba.conf' file?


Then I just exited from user postgres and completed the installation.

Further on in the installation:

This failed:
'psql template1 postgres 
/usr/portage/net-analyzer/jffnms/files/postgresql_db_tables'

so I had to use:

'psql template1 postgres 
/usr/portage/net-analyzer/jffnms/files/postgresql_db_table'



that's it, but those above questions are still in need of an answer.

thanks,
James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...

2006-03-31 Thread Marton Gabor
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Hi!

I had the same thing with sshd, I did an etc-update and now the annoying
lines disappeared.

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Alexander Kirillov wrote:
 I needed to restart sendmail more than once after upgrade
 and noticed the script always produces these warnings:

 # /etc/init.d/sendmail restart
  * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
  * Stopping sendmail ... [ok]
  * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
  * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
  * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
  * Re-caching dependency info (mtimes differ)...
  * Starting sendmail ... [ok]

 What might be wrong here?


 I have seen this too recently with samba, vmware, ntpd, privoxy and
 others
 (but not always) during both startup and shutdown sequences. I think
 something has changed in the init scripts. Everything seems to work OK
 and there is nothing in the logs indicating anything wrong.

 Not sure what's being cached or recached. Makes no sense to me.
 Ideas?
 
 
 The problem went away and I don't really know why... Probably a reboot.
 I also had 2 packages providing firewall service installed at the time.
 I've tried to reproduce the problem reinstalling one of them
 before writing this reply. Nope. What else?
 hw clock on this box is set to local time.
 But this happened well after baselayout upgrade
 and well after the last reboot.
 And sendmail was the only service giving the troubles.
 I'm sure I had to restart several others
 without any problems.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] BSD /usr/bin/from

2006-03-31 Thread Alexander Kirillov

I am wondering whether gentoo has any portage containing equivalents
to the /usr/bin/from on *BSD; it's a small program that prints names
of those who have sent mail.  Thanks in advance for any help/comments!


You may try something like
$ grep '^From:' /your/mailbox

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[gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
Hi, I'm having a bit more trouble.

I'm trying to re-compile KDE so that maybe some functionality which
didn't compile right the first time will work.  However, it says I've
got some broken dependencies.

localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kbounce-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkdegames-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkcddb-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klaptopdaemon-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kommander-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kxsldbg-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kfilereplace-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klinkstatus-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kimagemapeditor-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/quanta-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)

[snipped the stuff that wasn't broken]

I don't know what to do.  I don't want to loose Quanta+ or
KLaptopDaemon, and I frankly didn't know Kommander was there...

Please help a old Debian person who isn't used to doing this stuff by
himself...  Oh, I already tried emerge --depclean, but that didn't fix
all the problems apparently.  In the mean time I'll try remerging
KLaptopDaemon, but I would like to resolve these issues to both learn
how and to make life easier in the future.

Thanks for your help!

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[gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
Hi - again.

You are totally free to get tired of me and completely ignore me. 
Please, just make sure that you all don't do it all at the same time ;
)

Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB Flash disk so that
I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu install.  However,
/dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in /etc/mtab.

 Sort of a side thing...  what's the difference between fstab and mtab?

Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I don't have a
mount point for my poor USB Disk.  I looked through *all* the 1,400
some-odd lines in the mount command's man page, however, I got no
clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin to see if there
was anything there...  I didn't see anything that made sense to me.

I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical tool that Kubuntu
supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.

Thanks for your help!'

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Teresa and Dale
Lord Sauron wrote:

Sort of a side thing...  what's the difference between fstab and mtab?





Thanks for your help!'

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The file fstab is what you edit.  The file mtab is what the system uses
to keep up with what is where and you should NOT edit it.

No clue on the USB thing but I dread the day I have to start.

Hope that helps.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Manuel McLure

Lord Sauron wrote:

Hi, I'm having a bit more trouble.

I'm trying to re-compile KDE so that maybe some functionality which
didn't compile right the first time will work.  However, it says I've
got some broken dependencies.

localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kbounce-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkdegames-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdemultimedia-kioslaves-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdemultimedia-arts-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkcddb-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klaptopdaemon-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kommander-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kxsldbg-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kfilereplace-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/klinkstatus-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kimagemapeditor-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/quanta-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdewebdev-3.4.3-r1)


It looks like you installed KDE originally using the split ebuilds - 
i.e. kde-meta instead of kde. Try


emerge --pretend kde-meta

and see if that doesn't give blocking messages. I expect it won't.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Bo Andresen
On Saturday 01 April 2006 01:52, Lord Sauron wrote:
 Hi, I'm having a bit more trouble.

 I'm trying to re-compile KDE so that maybe some functionality which
 didn't compile right the first time will work.  However, it says I've
 got some broken dependencies.

 localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kbounce-3.4* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdegames-3.4.3) [blocks B ] =kde-base/libkdegames-3.4* (is
[SNIP]

 I don't know what to do.  I don't want to loose Quanta+ or
 KLaptopDaemon, and I frankly didn't know Kommander was there...

 Please help a old Debian person who isn't used to doing this stuff by
 himself...  Oh, I already tried emerge --depclean, but that didn't fix
 all the problems apparently.  In the mean time I'll try remerging
 KLaptopDaemon, but I would like to resolve these issues to both learn
 how and to make life easier in the future.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml#doc_chap2

You are trying to install the monolithic packages while what you have 
installed are the split packages. I would recommend that you stick with the 
split packages and emerge kde-meta instead of kde. That way you will have the 
option to uninstall packages that you don't use later on without having to 
remerge anything.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde-meta

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdialog-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kgamma-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kmrml-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kpdf-3.4.3-r4)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kolourpaint-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kcoloredit-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/ksnapshot-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kghostview-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kiconedit-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ksvg-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kfax-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kviewshell-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kuickshow-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kview-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdvi-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kruler-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kate-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kscreensaver-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-data-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdesu-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/khotkeys-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kcminit-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/khelpcenter-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kcontrol-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdm-3.4.3-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdebugdialog-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kreadconfig-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/knetattach-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdepasswd-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/libkonq-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kicker-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kappfinder-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kfind-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ksysguard-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kcheckpass-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ksplashml-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/klipper-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ksystraycmd-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kwin-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdesktop-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kstart-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kxkb-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ksmserver-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/nsplugins-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/ktip-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdeprint-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdcop-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kpager-3.4.2)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kmenuedit-3.4.1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kpersonalizer-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/drkonqi-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/konqueror-3.4.3)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/konsole-3.4.3)

No.  Still doesn't like me.  I never know about the meta packages, so
I could be on Gnome for a little while until I get this sorted out,
huh?

On 3/31/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 01 April 2006 01:52, Lord Sauron wrote:
  Hi, I'm having a bit more trouble.
 
  I'm trying to re-compile KDE so that maybe some functionality which
  didn't compile right the first time will work.  However, it says I've
  got some broken dependencies.
 
  

Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread b.n.

Anyways, I've been working to try and mount my USB Flash disk so that
I can use the stuff I backed up from my old Kubuntu install.  However,
/dev/sda1 isn't in /etc/fstab, though usbfs is in /etc/mtab.



Well, I've narrowed it down to at least one thing: I don't have a
mount point for my poor USB Disk.  


If you have and /etc/fstab, and you already know your usb flash disk is 
/dev/sda1, well, just add the right fstab entry.

Mine looks this way:

/dev/sda1  /mnt/removable  vfat  noauto,async,user,exec 0 0

 I looked through *all* the 1,400

some-odd lines in the mount command's man page, however, I got no
clues, not even a related command.  I also # ls /bin to see if there
was anything there...  I didn't see anything that made sense to me.


your effort is nice, but have you thought about Google or another search 
engine?



I've only ever mounted stuff using the graphical tool that Kubuntu
supplied, so that's where my ignorance comes from.


I think you refer to the 
hey-my-usb-disk-appears-magically-on-my-desktop! trick. I guess it's 
managed by HAL, you can have it on Gentoo too (don't ask me for info, 
since I don't use it)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Bo Andresen
On Saturday 01 April 2006 02:25, Lord Sauron wrote:
 localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde-meta

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdialog-3.4.1)
[SNIP]
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-3.4.3)
[SNIP]

 No.  Still doesn't like me.  I never know about the meta packages, so
 I could be on Gnome for a little while until I get this sorted out,
 huh?

Seems you have a mixture of monolithic and split. Like I said before I 
recommend the split packages. To get those you have to unmerge the monolithic 
packages. So:

# emerge --unmerge --ask --verbose kdebase kdegraphics
# emerge --ask --verbose kde-meta

It is all explained at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap4

And please learn to cut out anything you don't reply to and reply below that 
which you do reply to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread b.n.
I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?  


Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in 
december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if 
now it's different.



I thought fstab was
generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
good idea to edit it.


A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer, 
but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be 
editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.


The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab. 
This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.



I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?


Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I 
create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just historical habit. 
Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for 
removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using 
/home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to 
access mount points from your home...



No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.


That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of 
done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with Dependencies

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/31/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Saturday 01 April 2006 02:25, Lord Sauron wrote:
  localhost ~ # emerge --pretend kde-meta
 
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
  Calculating dependencies ...done!
  [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-3.4* (is blocking kde-base/kdialog-3.4.1)
 [SNIP]
  [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4* (is blocking
  kde-base/kdegraphics-kfile-plugins-3.4.3)
 [SNIP]

  No.  Still doesn't like me.  I never know about the meta packages, so
  I could be on Gnome for a little while until I get this sorted out,
  huh?

 Seems you have a mixture of monolithic and split. Like I said before I
 recommend the split packages. To get those you have to unmerge the monolithic
 packages. So:

I was a little rash and unmerged everything with the string kde in
it.  When in doubt, restart.

 # emerge --unmerge --ask --verbose kdebase kdegraphics
 # emerge --ask --verbose kde-meta

 It is all explained at
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap4

 And please learn to cut out anything you don't reply to and reply below that
 which you do reply to.

Srry...  I'm a little bit scatterbrained at times.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/31/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?

 Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
 Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in
 december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if
 now it's different.

Well, the automated installer did most of it for me, so I never got
the exposure to it.

  I thought fstab was
  generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
  good idea to edit it.

 A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer,
 but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be
 editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.

Yeah, didn't take too long for me to figure out how to word what I
wanted.  Only a few tries and one reboot (don't ask).

 The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab.
 This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.

Okay.  That makes sense.

  I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?

 Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I
 create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just historical habit.
 Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for
 removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using
 /home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to
 access mount points from your home...

I made /mnt/sda1, 'cuz that's what I used about 4 years ago on a Red
Hat Linux box.  It was really messing me up with all this /media stuff
when I used Kubuntu.

  No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
  the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
  slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
  I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.

 That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of
 done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).

Yeah, I can now see what the GUI did.  From my experience with Qt I
can safely say it was harder to make the GUI than to do it by hand.

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[gentoo-user] OT: /sys-demystifying-tool?

2006-03-31 Thread Meino Christian Cramer
Hi,

 sorry for this offtopic question, but: Where installers met :)

 I am looking for a tool, which makes /sys more humand readable. It dont
 need to have a gui or such...something like lspci would be
 sufficient.

 Thanks a lot for any helpful reply in advance ! :)

 Have a nice weekend !
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Mait
basic method :
$ mount [-t fstype...] [-o options...] /dev/sda1 /mountpoint
$ ls /mountpoint

convenient way :
add entry in /etc/fstab,
/dev/sda1/mountpointfstype...options

then, you can mount this way
$ mount /dev/sda1
or,
$ mount /mountpoint

more convenient, modern way :
udev, hotplug, hald, dbus, gnome-volume-manager(or similiar thing in KDE) ...

just plug in USB drive, and that will appear in your
desktop(background, places menu, file-manager...)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Customizing_UDEV#Terminology
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gnome-volume-manager
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS%2C_HAL%2C_KDE_media:/

Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )

It's also useful in traditional way
$ man mount
$ man fstab

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2006/4/1, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 3/31/06, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I can just nano /etc/fstab and add /dev/sda1?
 
  Not only you can: you actually have to! :)
  Check the Gentoo handbook for details. When I did install Gentoo (in
  december 2004), I had to write *all* my fstab by hand, I don't know if
  now it's different.

 Well, the automated installer did most of it for me, so I never got
 the exposure to it.

   I thought fstab was
   generated by the machine or something, and that it isn't a terribly
   good idea to edit it.
 
  A fstab file is ususally generated by the operating system installer,
  but, being it a plain text configuration file, it is thought to be
  editable by root. It has a pretty straightforward syntaxis.

 Yeah, didn't take too long for me to figure out how to word what I
 wanted.  Only a few tries and one reboot (don't ask).

  The machine-generated thing you shouldn't touch, instead, is /etc/mtab.
  This one contains the *current* state of mounted devices.

 Okay.  That makes sense.

   I don't have a /mnt directory.  Should I just create one?
 
  Well, you have to create an empty directory to use as a mountpoint. I
  create them inside a /mnt directory, but that's just historical habit.
  Many distro I see around now use /media as a root directory for
  removable media mountpoints. Nothing stops you from using
  /home/sauron/whatever, although I feel symlinks are a cleaner way to
  access mount points from your home...

 I made /mnt/sda1, 'cuz that's what I used about 4 years ago on a Red
 Hat Linux box.  It was really messing me up with all this /media stuff
 when I used Kubuntu.

   No, I had to manually create a mount point via the GUI and then enable
   the thing and all this stuff.  Then KDE just looked at /media and
   slapped that on my desktop.  I mounted my windows partition (back when
   I had one) on /media so that I could have that on my desktop too.
 
  That's the same of writing on the fstab, but managed by a gui instead of
  done by hand (editing fstab is really easy once you manage the logic of it).

 Yeah, I can now see what the GUI did.  From my experience with Qt I
 can safely say it was harder to make the GUI than to do it by hand.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/31/06, Mait [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey! don,t hurry relax ~ : )

Relax?  Sounds like something that unemployed people do : \

 It's also useful in traditional way
 $ man mount
 $ man fstab

Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
only for commands and stuff...

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[gentoo-user] OT - Apache, mod_perl, and Apache-ASP

2006-03-31 Thread Michael Sullivan
I am attempting to install Apache-ASP for my users on my server box.
Personally, I don't use ASP (I prefer PHP), but most of my users still
prefer Microsoft and they might want to use it.  It wasn't available in
portage, so I had to get the source code off the Internet.  I've
followed all the instructions (I think), but I still see the example ASP
code when I go to the example ASP scripts that came bundled with
Apache-ASP.  Does anyone else have experience with Apache-ASP that could
tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Apache-ASP depends on mod_perl (I emerged
it last night), and I've added -D PERL to the APACHE2_OPTS variable
in /etc/conf.d/apache2 and restarted apache, but I'm not sure if it's
working.  Is there a way for me to test if mod_perl is working?

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[gentoo-user] anyone having apache2 memory issues

2006-03-31 Thread Alan Bailward
Hey all.  I recently swapped my apache 1.3 site (personal blog, albums,
etc) over to apache 2 (stable) and all seemed to go well.  However
lately I've been having a lot of out of memory issues on the server.
Even when memory is still available 

naked alan # free -m
 total   used   free sharedbufferscached
Mem:   505475 29  0 33   219
-/+ buffers/cache:222282
Swap:  525 75450

vmstat:
procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io --system--
cpu
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   sobibo   incs us sy
id wa
 0  0  77020  50124  34212 20667200 2 5  103   126  0  1
99  1
(sorry about the wrapping)

I'm still getting errors like this in my site's error log:


[Fri Mar 31 20:07:08 2006] [error] [client 209.123.8.19] (12)Cannot
allocate memory: couldn't create child process: 12: mt-tb.cgi
[Fri Mar 31 20:07:08 2006] [error] [client 209.123.8.19] (12)Cannot
allocate memory: couldn't spawn child
process: /var/www/arcterex.net/htdocs/mt/mt-tb.cgi[Fri Mar 31 20:07:09
2006] [error] [client 209.123.8.19] (12)Cannot allocate memory: couldn't
create child process: 12: mt-tb.cgi

This happens for most of the pages when I got to my movable site admin
pages (all cgi).

I'm using pretty much the stock apache2 config files on a 512mb athlon
xp2600 server.  I've used threads -threads and mpm-prefork in my
USE flags, with pretty much the same results :(  The server itself is a
standard samba/apache/mysql system which seemed to run mostly ok under
apache 1.3, so I'm really wondering what the heck is going on.  When the
server reports the out of memory conditions I can sometimes hit the page
a couple of times and then it'll come up.  Other times apache will run
with 100% cpu and slowly use up memory and swap until I have to (slowly)
login and kill it by hand.

Anyone seen anything like this or have an idea on how to fix?

TIA

Alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:07:16PM -0800, Lord Sauron wrote

  $ man mount
  $ man fstab
 
 Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
 only for commands and stuff...

  There are man pages for just about every file in the /etc directory.
For optional packages, you do need to have the package installed to get
the manpage.

  Another cute trick if you've got something plugged in, but don't know
which device it's listed as; as root, execute the command...

fdisk -l

  The l (for list) option lists all connected block devices, even it
they aren't mounted.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mounting USB Flash Drive

2006-03-31 Thread Lord Sauron
On 3/31/06, Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:07:16PM -0800, Lord Sauron wrote

   $ man mount
   $ man fstab
 
  Wow... I didn't know that man had a fstab entry.  I thought it was
  only for commands and stuff...

   There are man pages for just about every file in the /etc directory.
 For optional packages, you do need to have the package installed to get
 the manpage.

Neat.

   Another cute trick if you've got something plugged in, but don't know
 which device it's listed as; as root, execute the command...

 fdisk -l

   The l (for list) option lists all connected block devices, even it
 they aren't mounted.

Neater.  It's a wonder no one makes on great big document about all
this...  to me it looks like its spread all over the internet in ways
that makes it hard to find...

At least, I don't know about the great big authoritative document of
documentation...

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