[gentoo-ppc-user] Airport don't work only with me... WHY?? am I ill-fated ?

2006-06-02 Thread peppeska
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why?
WHY?
W H Y?

UFF!!

I emerged kernel 2.6.17-r3
compile it

reboot...

  applejack ~ # bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/ wl_apsta.o

  applejack ~ # modprobe bcm43xx
  applejack ~ # ifconfig eth1 up
  applejack ~ # iwconfig
  eth0 no wireless extensions.
 
  lo no wireless extensions.
 
  eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:off/any Nickname:Broadcom 4306
  Mode:Managed Frequency=2.437 GHz Access Point: Invalid
  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm
  RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
  Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
 
  applejack ~ #

Access Point: Invalid ?? what?? don't work anymore??

why

wait wait I try to create a network

  applejack ~ # iwconfig eth1 essid provadelcazzo mode Ad-Hoc
  applejack ~ # iwlist eth1 s
  eth1 No scan results
  applejack ~ # iwlist eth1 s
  eth1 No scan results
  applejack ~ # iwlist eth1 s
  eth1 No scan results
  applejack ~ # iwlist eth1 s
  eth1 No scan results
  applejack ~ # iwconfig
  eth0 no wireless extensions.
 
  lo no wireless extensions.
 
  eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:provadelcazzo Nickname:Broadcom 4306
  Mode:Ad-Hoc Frequency=2.484 GHz Cell: Invalid
  Bit Rate:11 Mb/s Tx-Power=15 dBm
  RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0
  Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
 
  applejack ~ #

Cell:Invalid
??

fuck you airport!
I tried with firmware AppleAirport2, but nothing

WELL
Airport works with everybody (my friend, guys of catania LUG) but not
with me...

Can I solve it?
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[gentoo-user] newly emerged mysql problems

2006-06-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
I set up a box to run asterisk and try various asterisk front ends  
on.  This was back in January.  I got gentoo installed and emerged  
apache2, php5, and mysql.


In trying to set up mysql I do the following  /usr/bin/mysql_install_db

# ./mysql_install_db
Installing all prepared tables
ERROR: 1  Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/ 
db.MYI' (Errcode: 13)

ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.db' doesn't exist
ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.db' doesn't exist
ERROR: 1  Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/ 
host.MYI' (Errcode: 13)
ERROR: 1  Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/ 
user.MYI' (Errcode: 13)

ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist
ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist
ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist
ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist
blah
blah
blah

The directory /var/lib/mysql and all its children are owned by  
mysql:mysql and I even changed the permissions to 777 on /var/lib/ 
mysql and /var/lib/mysql/mysql .  I don't have a clue what is going  
on.  I have run mysql a bunch on FreeBSD but this is the first time  
on gentoo.


Any ideas or hints are appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:40 -0600, Joseph wrote:
  What is the best way to transfer content of an old HD to a new one
  bigger one?
 
 what are you transferring the win98 stuff to? win98, windows-other,
 gentoo?

Unfortunately yes, :-(  I have to stick to that windows 98 for a bit
longer till I find a replacement for Dental Program for my wife.
The computer is running only Windows 98 with one dental program. 

 in any case, make the new hd your primary one (primary master), and the
 old one secondary (primary slave or secondary master).  The boot to your
 new hd, mount your old hd, and copy!

The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as master
change the existing one old one as slave.
Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
# dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda

Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss anything?

 
  I do not subscribe to software vendor program as I intent to move the
  whole system to Linux (if I find a suitable dental program as I'm
  hostage of this program) so if I reinstall the program from the CD
  those
  changes will be gone. 
 
 However, if you _don't_ reinstall from CD, you may miss some essential
 registry settings and other stuff that windows puts all over the place.
 I'd recommend reinstalling from CD, then copying your old contents over
 the newly installed one.

What is what I'm afraid of.  Did anybody performed this operation?

 
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any money...

I know they don't want to spend much money of the program as the program
are very expensive.  The most important thing Dentists want from their
programs is the ability to submit the claim electronically as they get
paid faster; and basic recording operations for medical program.

Best alternative I've found are:
1.) http://www.open-dent.com/
Though, this misinformed dentist settle on MS NET Framework so it can
not be use with Linux as of yet, so even though it is GPL program it is
useless for me.

2.)  http://www.oemr.org/
This is intended for medical mostly but I think can be customized for
dental use as well.  I haven't test it yet as in order to use it you
need to have PHP4 (they don't support PHP5 yet).
Another advantage in OEMR, it is using SQL-Ledger for accounting, which
we are using currently so it is an advantage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any
 money...

I forgot to mention, they are using some kind of MaxiDent program; it
doesn't do much besides recording basic operation about dental
procedures billing codes etc.
All it does it matches the procedure dentist perform on a patient
against code so the can submit the claim electronically or print it on
the form and send it to insurance company for claim.

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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan Tandy

Teresa and Dale wrote:

Could you put /usr/portage on a dvd and just mount it there?


Don't put the whole of /usr/portage on the DVD, since all the ebuilds 
etc you won't be using are a waste of space.  Rather, just put packages/ 
on the DVD, and mount it there.



You could also use a NFS to access
the files.  Just put all the souce tarballs on one machine and share
them with the rest.  Just a idea.


IMO this is a better idea, since you can have access to the entire tree 
if you need it, and you don't need to waste money on DVDs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 00:36 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Iain Buchanan wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I use gentoo on small industrial-pc's, and strip out a lot of stuff that
 just takes up space, such as /usr/portage.
 
 Could you put /usr/portage on a dvd and just mount it there?  A dvd
 should hold a lot of source files.  You could also use a NFS to access
 the files.  Just put all the souce tarballs on one machine and share
 them with the rest.  Just a idea.

These PC's have no removable media drives, and when they go into the
field, they don't have any other hosts around them to share with.  I
want to be able to dial up and install the odd package that I forgot to
test properly at the office :)

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[gentoo-user] newly emerged apache permissions error

2006-06-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
I set up a box to run asterisk and try various asterisk front ends  
on.  This was back in January.  I got gentoo installed and emerged  
apache2, php5, and mysql.  Then I did not touch the box again until  
tonight.


I cannot get apache to actually serve any pages.



Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /test.php on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to  
use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.




It does not matter what file I ask it for, index.html, index.php, / ,  
etc, I get the same error.


I have a DocumentRoot plus newly a virtual host pointing to the same  
DocumentRoot with the right ServerName and teh directories are all  
owned by apache:apache, which is the user the server runs under.  The  
files all have owner and group permissions.   Everything is set to  
not deny and to allow all.


I run apache2 on FreeBSD just fine and I cannot see anything in the  
config that should prevent this.  Something about the default gentoo  
config or install it seems.


Any hints or help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 23:51 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 14:37 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:40 -0600, Joseph wrote:
   What is the best way to transfer content of an old HD to a new one
   bigger one?
  
  what are you transferring the win98 stuff to? win98, windows-other,
  gentoo?
 
 Unfortunately yes, :-(  I have to stick to that windows 98 for a bit
 longer till I find a replacement for Dental Program for my wife.
 The computer is running only Windows 98 with one dental program. 

 The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as master
 change the existing one old one as slave.
 Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
 # dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda
 
 Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss anything?

No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.

I would do it like this:

1. Install windows on new HD.
2. Install old HD (after you've installed windows)
3. boot to knoppix (or similar)
4. mount new and old HD
5. cp -a /mnt/old/whatever /mnt/new

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Re: [gentoo-user] newly emerged apache permissions error

2006-06-02 Thread Justin R Findlay
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 12:03:11AM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
 
 I cannot get apache to actually serve any pages.

check your apache logs.  Try:

# tail -F /var/log/apache/error_log

and reload the page and see what happens.  It should give you a specific
reason why it fails.  Even if you don't understand the error google
might and somebody here will.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Joseph
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 15:38 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  The easiest method to transfer would be to install new drive as
 master
  change the existing one old one as slave.
  Boot from Knoppix CD and do:
  # dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda
  
  Reboot the computer and that should do it I think.  Did I miss
 anything?
 
 No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
 Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.

Utilizing extra space shouldn't be that hard, by partitioning new HD
disk portion as new drive.  

 
 I would do it like this:
 
 1. Install windows on new HD.
 2. Install old HD (after you've installed windows)
 3. boot to knoppix (or similar)
 4. mount new and old HD
 5. cp -a /mnt/old/whatever /mnt/new

I'll give it a shot as you suggest it, thanks. 

My idea would be to install Dental program on Linux and post it on the
net the procedure; I'm sure more than few Dentists would take an
advantage of it and free them from Windows oppression  :-/

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Re: [gentoo-user] newly emerged apache permissions error

2006-06-02 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC


On Jun 2, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:



On Jun 2, 2006, at 12:11 AM, Justin R Findlay wrote:

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 12:03:11AM -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net  
LLC wrote:


I cannot get apache to actually serve any pages.


check your apache logs.


Thanks, I have been doing that.


  Try:

# tail -F /var/log/apache/error_log

and reload the page and see what happens.  It should give you a  
specific

reason why it fails.  Even if you don't understand the error google
might and somebody here will.


[Fri Jun 02 00:22:13 2006] [error] [client 192.168.99.68] (13) 
Permission denied: access to /test.php denied


I actually think this and my mysql question (separate post) are  
related as both have a 13 error code and Google implies (ie, I did  
not verify the info) that error 13 is a unix Permission Denied error.


But I don't see how as the owners of all the dirs are the users  
associated with the programs (apache or mysql) and on the mysql end I  
even changed the dirs to be 777 as a test.


Is there some sort of system wide gentoo security thing set somewhere

here is my uname

Linux denwa 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 #1 Sun Jan 15 23:32:30 MST 2006 i686 AMD  
Opteron(tm) Processor 148 AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux


thanks
Chad



not very useful.  This came out of the virtual server error log for  
the vhost I set up to see if that was the issue.  Before, when I  
was using the direct server set up in the normal httpd.conf the  
same lines ended up in error_log.   Nothing else.


thanks
Chad




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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 00:24 -0600, Joseph wrote:

 My idea would be to install Dental program on Linux and post it on the
 net the procedure; I'm sure more than few Dentists would take an
 advantage of it and free them from Windows oppression  :-/

have you tried wine?  make sure you have a backup, then copy your old hd
to your linux partition, and run wine from it.  If it's a simple app it
should work ok...

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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64, gcc-4.1.1 kde-3.5

2006-06-02 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig
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 Hi list,
 I'm trying to compile KDE 3.5 with gcc-4.1.1 on my amd64 computer.
 KDE_multimedia can't link with the following error :

 /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/libkhtml.so: undefined reference to
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [juk] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.5.2-r2/work/kdemultimedia-3.5.2/juk'
 .

  Did one of you experimented the same problem ? Any cue ? Thanks for the help 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 01:46:09 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

 --deep is dangerous!
 
 I have stopped using --deep ages ago. 
 As an example:
 
 there is an --deep update for libFOO.1 to libFOO.1.1.
 
 You make this update which only shows up with --deep
 
 Suddenly all apps, linking to libFOO.1 are dead or crashy or acting
 weired.

Dropping --deep won't stop that happening, only delay it. sooner or
later, one of your packages will need libFOO.1.1 and it will be
installed. --deep doesn't cause this problem, it only affects the timing.

 That happened to me several times. I see NO reason to use deep. Ever.

How about this instance? The OP wants all packages affected by the
profile change to be updated. Without --deep, that won't happen.

 Reduced the occurences where I have to use revdep-rebuilt to almost nil 
 (except that expat tragedy some weeks ago. Man that sucked ;) ).

I do a deep update every day, on various architectures. I run
revdep-rebuild -p occasionally, just to make sure everything is
consistent, it rarely picks up anything.

--deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it, but
on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.


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Re: [gentoo-user] EMERGENCY - GCC GONE!

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:42:29 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote:

 From what I understand, which may be as wrong as it gets, if I use the
 buildpkg thing, it stores a binary in /usr/portage/packages/All/ and if
 I really screw up something, like portage, gcc or something like that, I
 can untar it to / and rescue myself from my evil doing.  That is what I
 understand and have never actually used this feature before.

That's right. It came in handy a few months back when a glibc update
broke things. It also means you can quickly roll back to the previous
version of a package with emerge --usepackage =cat/pkg-version.


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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:14:38 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 I use gentoo on small industrial-pc's, and strip out a lot of stuff that
 just takes up space, such as /usr/portage.
 
 I made a binary package with quickpkg, to install (with emerge --usepkg)
 on one of these PC's, but it complains about lots of stuff missing.

It would, if you have no portage tree.

 So, if I want to do without /usr/portage, can I just install binary
 packages by untarring them to / ?  Or is there other essential stuff
 that emerge does when you install a binary package?

That depends on the ebuild. Check to see if it has any preinst or
postinst instructions. If so, you'll have to arrange for these to be
handled manually. Apart fro that, you should be able to unpack the
tarball to /. You can safely ignore the error from tar about trailing
garbage, portage tacks environment information onto the end of the tar.

Rather than use quickpkg, it would probably be better to add buildpkg to
FEATURES on the build box. That way you'll get the packages built
automatically.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Bogo Mipps
On Friday 02 June 2006 17:07, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 Lastly, what does the program do?  My wife is a Dental Assistant, and
 I've been trying to convince her boss to switch to a computer based
 appointment and record system, but he doesn't want to spend any money...

http://www.soeidental.com/

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Re: [gentoo-user] newly emerged mysql problems

2006-06-02 Thread Ilya Hegai
2006/6/2, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I set up a box to run asterisk and try various asterisk front endson.This was back in January.I got gentoo installed and emergedapache2, php5, and mysql.In trying to set up mysql I do the following/usr/bin/mysql_install_db
# ./mysql_install_dbInstalling all prepared tablesERROR: 1Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/db.MYI' (Errcode: 13)ERROR: 1146Table 'mysql.db' doesn't existERROR: 1146Table '
mysql.db' doesn't existERROR: 1Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/host.MYI' (Errcode: 13)ERROR: 1Can't create/write to file '/var/lib/mysql/mysql/user.MYI' (Errcode: 13)ERROR: 1146Table '
mysql.user' doesn't existERROR: 1146Table 'mysql.user' doesn't existERROR: 1146Table 'mysql.user' doesn't existERROR: 1146Table 'mysql.user' doesn't existblahblahblahThe directory /var/lib/mysql and all its children are owned by
mysql:mysql and I even changed the permissions to 777 on /var/lib/mysql and /var/lib/mysql/mysql .I don't have a clue what is goingon.I have run mysql a bunch on FreeBSD but this is the first timeon gentoo.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transfer OLD HD content to new HD

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:24:58 -0600, Joseph wrote:

  No, don't do it this way, as you won't be able to use any extra space.
  Windows 98 uses FAT32, which is very well supported under linux.
 
 Utilizing extra space shouldn't be that hard, by partitioning new HD
 disk portion as new drive.  

You can use QTparted to resize the partition after copying.

Using dd should keep files in the same location, which matters with some
Windows system files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] amd64, gcc-4.1.1 kde-3.5

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 07:39:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to compile KDE 3.5 with gcc-4.1.1 on my amd64 computer.
 KDE_multimedia can't link with the following error :

Did you run fix_libtool_files.sh after switching to GCC 4.1.1?


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[gentoo-user] grub + pxeboot

2006-06-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,


I'd like to let grub boot an PXE bootloader, so I've got the 
option to boot from network instead of local disk.
How can I do this ?

Currently I'm using an PXE bootdisk to boot from network, but 
this is not satisfying.


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[gentoo-user] dosbox eating up resources

2006-06-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,


I've noticed, dosbox eats up very much resources, so for example
takes very very long (maybe 10x ?). Is this normal ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

2006-06-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

 Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
 not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
 that takes up?

hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 01:46:09 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

  

--deep is dangerous!

I have stopped using --deep ages ago. 
As an example:

there is an --deep update for libFOO.1 to libFOO.1.1.

You make this update which only shows up with --deep

Suddenly all apps, linking to libFOO.1 are dead or crashy or acting
weired.



Dropping --deep won't stop that happening, only delay it. sooner or
later, one of your packages will need libFOO.1.1 and it will be
installed. --deep doesn't cause this problem, it only affects the timing.
  


Yep.

  

That happened to me several times. I see NO reason to use deep. Ever.



How about this instance? The OP wants all packages affected by the
profile change to be updated. Without --deep, that won't happen.
  


Yep here too.

  

Reduced the occurences where I have to use revdep-rebuilt to almost nil 
(except that expat tragedy some weeks ago. Man that sucked ;) ).



I do a deep update every day, on various architectures. I run
revdep-rebuild -p occasionally, just to make sure everything is
consistent, it rarely picks up anything.
  


I do the same thing.  That is one reason it is there, to fix things like
this.

--deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it, but
on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.

  


Yep.  Sometimes you have to do it just because you got to.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Enrico Weigelt wrote:

* Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

  

Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
that takes up?



hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?


cu
  


That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
/usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
takes up almost 30MBs on my system.

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[gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Paulo J. Matos

Hi all,

First, I just upgraded from 4.0.2 to 4.1.1, continued to upgrade some
other packages up until kdelibs where I get:
/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../dcop
-I../../kdecore -I../../kio/kssl -I../../kjs -I../../arts/kde -I../..
-I/usr/kde/3.5/include/arts -I../../dcop -I../../libltdl -I../../kdefx
-I../../kdecore -I../../kdecore -I../../kdeui -I../../kio
-I../../kio/kio -I../../kio/kfile -I../.. -I/usr/qt/3/include -I.
-I/usr/kde/3.5/include   -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT  -D_REENTRANT
-Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE
-Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith
-DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor
-fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common  -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE
-DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION  -c
-o libartskde_la.all_cc.lo libartskde_la.all_cc.cc
/bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion
-Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2
-march=pentium4 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -Wformat-security
-Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions
-fno-check-new -fno-common  -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST
-DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o libartskde.la
-rpath /usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/lib
 -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined
-version-info 3:0:2 libartskde_la.all_cc.lo libartskde_la.all_cpp.lo
../../kio/libkio.la -lqtmcop -lsoundserver_idl
grep: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file
or directory
/bin/sed: can't read
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la: No such file or
directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.la' is
not a valid libtool archive
make[3]: *** [libartskde.la] Error 1

ok, so I searched the forums, the gentoo bugzilla and I found a lot of
discussion concerning similar issues. I did was I found:
fix_libtool_files.sh 4.0.2
fix_libtool_files.sh 4.1.1 == Didn't seem to do anything
emerge libtool libstdc++-v3 libstdc++

And still I get this. Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Peper
 And still I get this. Any ideas?
I have run into many strange problems with confcache, have you flushed(just 
remove /var/tmp/confcache) it after upgrade to 4.1.1?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale:
 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 snip
 
 Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
 not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
 that takes up?
 
 hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
 of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?
 
 
 cu

 That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
 only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
 /usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
 takes up almost 30MBs on my system.

There is the FEATURE=noman.

From man make.conf:

noman  Do not install manpages.

Seems to be what you are looking for :)

 Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 02 June 2006 09:48, Neil Bothwick wrote:


 --deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it, but
 on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.

and I really do not believe that ;)

If a package is 'hit' by the new flag, --newuse should cover it. With or 
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[gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Peter Kelly
Holas,

I'm running http-replicator on a desktop (server).  The laptop asks the 
desktop for files correctly, and that works just fine.

The problem I'm seeing is on the desktop.  Every night I do 
# emerge world --update --deep --newuse --fetchonly
# /usr/bin/repcacheman

which gets all the files I'll need (into /usr/portage/distfiles), and then 
moves all the files to http-rep cache (/var/cache/http-replicator).  
The next time I run 
# emerge -autvDN world

portage looks in /usr/portage/distfiles  ($DISTDIR in make.conf), and, of 
course, doesn't see the files.  They've been moved 
to /var/cache/http-replicator.  Then portage grabs the files, without 
consulting http-replicator.
Now, like I said, everything works fine for external machines.  They 
immediately use port 8080.  It's just the desktop/http-rep server that 
doesn't use want to use the http-rep cache.

Here are a few pertinent lines from /etc/make.conf
http_proxy=http://crichton:8080;
RESUMECOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -O \ 
\${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}

# ping crichton
PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.

Any idea what I have mis-configured?  

Thanks.

Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:44:46 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

  --deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it,
  but on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.
 
 and I really do not believe that ;)

Believe what you like, I am relating direct experiences here. Faith has
nothing to do with it.

 
 If a package is 'hit' by the new flag, --newuse should cover it. With
 or without --deep- 

When run with --update only, emerge considers only those packages listed
in world and their direct dependencies. Lower level dependencies won't be
looked at, so portage won;t pick up the changed USE flag.

From the man page

--deep (-D) 

When used in conjunction with --update, this flag forces emerge to
consider the entire dependency tree of packages, instead of checking only
the immediate dependencies of the packages. As an example, this catches
updates in libraries that are not directly listed in the dependencies of
a package.


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags question

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

Am Freitag, 2. Juni 2006 12:41 schrieb Teresa and Dale:
  

Enrico Weigelt wrote:


* Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip

  

Learn something every day.  So if I remove the doc USE flag that will
not remove the man page?  That would be cool.  I wonder how much space
that takes up?


hmm, is there also an man useflag or some other option to kick
of manpages (I personally don't need them on every system) ?


cu
  

That would be nice if you have more than one system.  After all, you
only need one set of man pages.  I didn't see anything in
/usr/portage/profile/use.desc.  Good question though.  /usr/share/man
takes up almost 30MBs on my system.



There is the FEATURE=noman.

From man make.conf:

noman  Do not install manpages.

Seems to be what you are looking for :)

  

Dale



Hand,
Michael


  


Oh, I was looking in the USE options.  I need to remember that when
I get my servers set up again.  One of them only has a 2.5GB drive and
it gets full sometimes.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange feature in eix

2006-06-02 Thread Bennet Gedan

2006/6/1, Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

[...] LOCAL_PORTAGE_CONFIG=false in /etc/eixrc [...]


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Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Peter Kelly wrote:

Holas,

I'm running http-replicator on a desktop (server).  The laptop asks the 
desktop for files correctly, and that works just fine.

The problem I'm seeing is on the desktop.  Every night I do 
# emerge world --update --deep --newuse --fetchonly
# /usr/bin/repcacheman

which gets all the files I'll need (into /usr/portage/distfiles), and then 
moves all the files to http-rep cache (/var/cache/http-replicator).  
The next time I run 
# emerge -autvDN world

portage looks in /usr/portage/distfiles  ($DISTDIR in make.conf), and, of 
course, doesn't see the files.  They've been moved 
to /var/cache/http-replicator.  Then portage grabs the files, without 
consulting http-replicator.
Now, like I said, everything works fine for external machines.  They 
immediately use port 8080.  It's just the desktop/http-rep server that 
doesn't use want to use the http-rep cache.

Here are a few pertinent lines from /etc/make.conf
http_proxy=http://crichton:8080;
RESUMECOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -O \ 
\${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}

# ping crichton
PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.

Any idea what I have mis-configured?  

Thanks.

Peter

  


Try something like this in make.conf: 
http_proxy=http://192.168.0.1:8080;   Change the address to whatever
you are running your machine at.  Basically you are pointing emerge back
at itself.

Dale
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[gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks:

I, like several others have been battling the problem of screens going
into power saver mode, and I have not been able to come to a resolution
to it yet.  I followed the discussion of several weeks ago, and it did
not appear to make a difference.  I have pasted in the relavant parts of
my xorg.conf.  If someone could please help me out here -- this is
getting a bit frustrating -- the options I specified according to the
messages from a couple weeks ago in the section under the monitor (the
DPMS etc)

There was a question at the time of the discussion if the 0 was the
appropriate value to turn stuff off, but I never heard a resolution on
that either.


# **
# Monitor section
# **
Section Monitor

Identifier  Laptop Panel
HorizSync   31.5
VertRefresh 50-70
Option DPMS true
Option BlankTime 0
Option StandbyTime 0
Option SuspendTime 0
Option OffTime 0

EndSection


# **
# Graphics device section
# **
Section Device
Identifier  Standard VGA
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
Driver vga
EndSection

# Device configured by xorgconfig:

Section Device
Identifier  Ati Radeon 9600 M
Driver  radeon
#VideoRam131072
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection


# **
# Screen sections
# **

Section Screen
Identifier  Screen 1
Device  Ati Radeon 9600 M
Monitor Laptop Panel
DefaultDepth 24

Subsection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 1280x1024 800x600
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   1024x768 1280x1024 800x600
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth   24
modes   1440x900
#   Modes   1024x768 1280x1024 800x600
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection




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Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On Friday 02 June 2006 09:03, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Peter Kelly wrote:
 Holas,
snip
 Here are a few pertinent lines from /etc/make.conf
 http_proxy=http://crichton:8080;
 RESUMECOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -O \
 \${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}
 
 # ping crichton
 PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
 
 Any idea what I have mis-configured?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Peter

 Try something like this in make.conf:
 http_proxy=http://192.168.0.1:8080;   Change the address to whatever
 you are running your machine at.  Basically you are pointing emerge back
 at itself.


Well, that didn't work.  portage still wants to download a file that's not 
in /usr/portage/distfiles, but is in /var/cache/http-replicator.  
Changing crichton to server ip 
http_proxy=http://192.168.1.100:8080;
still gives me

 Emerging (1 of 3) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3 to /
 Downloading 
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
--09:13:18--  
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
   = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2'
Resolving ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu... 128.61.111.10, 128.61.111.11, 
128.61.111.9
Connecting to ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu|128.61.111.10|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!

You'll note that there is no move to access port 8080 here.

But...
# ll /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 15424888 Jun  1 
23:45 /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2

Anything else?

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Paulo J. Matos

On 02/06/06, Peper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And still I get this. Any ideas?
I have run into many strange problems with confcache, have you flushed(just
remove /var/tmp/confcache) it after upgrade to 4.1.1?



I can't even find that file in my system. :-(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
On Friday, 2 June 2006 23:48, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
 Hi folks:

 I, like several others have been battling the problem of screens going
 into power saver mode, and I have not been able to come to a resolution
 to it yet.  I followed the discussion of several weeks ago, and it did
 not appear to make a difference.  I have pasted in the relavant parts of
 my xorg.conf.  If someone could please help me out here -- this is
 getting a bit frustrating -- the options I specified according to the
 messages from a couple weeks ago in the section under the monitor (the
 DPMS etc)

 There was a question at the time of the discussion if the 0 was the
 appropriate value to turn stuff off, but I never heard a resolution on
 that either.

 blah blah


Remove the following line.
 Option DPMS true

 blah blah


 Timothy A. Holmes
 IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Tomboy - Does it have Alerts?

2006-06-02 Thread Frédéric Grosshans
Le jeudi 01 juin 2006 à 11:37 -0700, Ow Mun Heng a écrit :
 I just installed tomboy, seems nice. 
 
 Is there capability to add in Alerts/alarms?

Ther is the tomboy-reminder plugin, but I don't know it's current state
(ant it's not in portage yet)


http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83060

http://raphael.slinckx.net/tomboy.php

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Peper
If you are using KDE check your settings in Control Center(Peripherals - 
Display - Power Control Tab).
Second thing is to check if you don't have any power saving oprions in your 
monitor's OSD menu.

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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel da Veiga

On 6/2/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I use gentoo on small industrial-pc's, and strip out a lot of stuff that
just takes up space, such as /usr/portage.


Just take out space?! Ok, I know you must strip down stuff, but
portage is the heart of Gentoo, without it, you strip your
administrative tools also.



I made a binary package with quickpkg, to install (with emerge --usepkg)
on one of these PC's, but it complains about lots of stuff missing.


You have no portage tree, you can't install using emerge...



So, if I want to do without /usr/portage, can I just install binary
packages by untarring them to / ?  Or is there other essential stuff
that emerge does when you install a binary package?


You can, but its not certain to work, because there is more stuff
involved in installing an app than just putting files at the right
places. Note I'm not saying it won't work, it MAY work, but you can't
guarantee. Many packages have post-install scripts, and some need
checking to see if the environment is sane before install.



I would appreciate comments on how to make this work - maybe by just
leaving an essential subset of /usr/portage.  Note, that I know I won't
be able to emerge anything from source without most of the /usr/portage
stuff, but I'm happy with that, as all these PC's are close images of
each other, and we have one master copy with a larger HD.


If I were you (that's MHO) I would leave portage there, its not THAT
big anyway... But if there's no way to leave it and you're looking for
alternative ways to do it, you'll have to put portage somewhere (disc,
network, usb stick, second hard drive) to use emerge.

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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Matthew Cline

On 6/1/06, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

I use gentoo on small industrial-pc's, and strip out a lot of stuff that
just takes up space, such as /usr/portage.



Depending on how much free space you have available, you could send a
copy of the portage tree along with the binary package. If you pack
/usr/portage into a squashfs, it only takes up about 25 megs. Mount
the image, install your binary package.



HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote:

Remove the following line.
  

Option DPMS true

blah blah




That should work.  If DPMS is not enabled it should not be able to cut
off the monitor at all.  Don't forget to check setterm if you are using
a console.  That is controlled seperately from the GUI stuff.

Timothy A. Holmes
IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher

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Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Peter Kelly wrote:

On Friday 02 June 2006 09:03, Teresa and Dale wrote:
  

Peter Kelly wrote:


Holas,
  

snip
  

Here are a few pertinent lines from /etc/make.conf
http_proxy=http://crichton:8080;
RESUMECOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -O \
\${DISTDIR}/\${FILE}

# ping crichton
PING localhost (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.

Any idea what I have mis-configured?

Thanks.

Peter
  

Try something like this in make.conf:
http_proxy=http://192.168.0.1:8080;   Change the address to whatever
you are running your machine at.  Basically you are pointing emerge back
at itself.




Well, that didn't work.  portage still wants to download a file that's not 
in /usr/portage/distfiles, but is in /var/cache/http-replicator.  
Changing crichton to server ip 
http_proxy=http://192.168.1.100:8080;
still gives me

  

Emerging (1 of 3) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3 to /
Downloading 


ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
--09:13:18--  
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
   = `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2'
Resolving ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu... 128.61.111.10, 128.61.111.11, 
128.61.111.9
Connecting to ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu|128.61.111.10|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!

You'll note that there is no move to access port 8080 here.

But...
# ll /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 15424888 Jun  1 
23:45 /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2

Anything else?

Peter

  


Did you remove or comment out the GENTOO_MIRRORS= line.  I forgot that I
had to comment it out too.  Sorry.  There is a thread on the forums with
a howto.  That may help.  It's been a while since I used it.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Tomboy - Does it have Alerts?

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Trommer

you should take a look at your ~/tomboy the format is xml...
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Re: [gentoo-user] installing a binary package without /usr/portage

2006-06-02 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
Friday 02 June 2006 05:44 skrev Iain Buchanan:
 I use gentoo on small industrial-pc's, and strip out a lot of stuff that
 just takes up space, such as /usr/portage.

 I made a binary package with quickpkg, to install (with emerge --usepkg)
 on one of these PC's, but it complains about lots of stuff missing.

 So, if I want to do without /usr/portage, can I just install binary
 packages by untarring them to / ?  Or is there other essential stuff
 that emerge does when you install a binary package?

 I would appreciate comments on how to make this work - maybe by just
 leaving an essential subset of /usr/portage.  Note, that I know I won't
 be able to emerge anything from source without most of the /usr/portage
 stuff, but I'm happy with that, as all these PC's are close images of
 each other, and we have one master copy with a larger HD.

You could just exclude parts of the tree that you're not going to use thereby 
minimizing the size of the tree...

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Exclude_categories_from_emerge_sync

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[gentoo-user] glibmm-2.8.4 failing to compile

2006-06-02 Thread gentuxx
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Hi all,

I'm running an `emerge -Duatv world' and emerge is wanting to upgrade
glibmm-2.8.1 to 2.8.4.  But 2.8.4 doesn't seem to want to compile.
Here's the error I get:

../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`sigc::internal::signal_impl::insert(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base,
sigc::slot_base const)'
../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`sigc::internal::signal_impl::erase(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [test] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests/glibmm_value'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-cpp/glibmm-2.8.4 failed.
!!! Function gnome2_src_compile, Line 58, Exitcode 2
!!! compile failure
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.


Any pointers would be a help.

Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On Friday 02 June 2006 10:02, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Peter Kelly wrote:
 On Friday 02 June 2006 09:03, Teresa and Dale wrote:
 Peter Kelly wrote:
 Holas,
 
 
snip

 
 Emerging (1 of 3) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.3 to /
 Downloading
 
 ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
 --09:13:18--
 ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
= `/usr/portage/distfiles/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2'
 Resolving ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu... 128.61.111.10, 128.61.111.11,
 128.61.111.9
 Connecting to ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu|128.61.111.10|:21... connected.
 Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
 
 You'll note that there is no move to access port 8080 here.
 
 But...
 # ll /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
 -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 15424888 Jun  1
 23:45 /isoserver/http-replicator/kdelibs-3.5.3.tar.bz2
 
 Anything else?
 
 Peter

 Did you remove or comment out the GENTOO_MIRRORS= line.  I forgot that I
 had to comment it out too.  Sorry.  There is a thread on the forums with
 a howto.  That may help.  It's been a while since I used it.

 Dale

 :-) :-)

Well, this is still the server, so the machine has to know about 
GENTOO_MIRRORS.  

Also, from 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Download_Cache_for_LAN-Http-Replicator
:
Don't forget that portage needs mirrors! Edit GENTOO_MIRRORS in /etc/make.conf 
to add more http mirrors and place any ftp mirrors LAST. The default mirrors 
in gentoo leave something to be desired Use mirrorselect if you need help in 
selecting mirrors.

Which makes me think about the connection it was making earlier.

For those who think they know the answer, or want to figure it out with the 
information in this thread, please stop reading now.  The spoiler is given 
below.




The first download location in GENTOO_MIRRORS was an ftp site 
(ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu).  Since portage is looking for an http_proxy, 
calling an ftp site simply connects to the ftp site.  Moving the ftp site to 
the end of the mirror list made everything work.  Or at least it appears to 
work now.  I'll know more tomorrow when another update cycle takes place.

Thanks for the help, Dale.  

Peter

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RE: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Timothy A. Holmes


 -Original Message-
 From: Peper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:43 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down
 
 If you are using KDE check your settings in Control Center(Peripherals
-
 Display - Power Control Tab).
 Second thing is to check if you don't have any power saving oprions in
 your
 monitor's OSD menu.
 
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Peper:

I use fluxbox on all my gentoo stations, and the monitor is a lcd panel
on the laptop

TIM


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Re: [gentoo-user] http-replicator fetching on the server

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Peter Kelly wrote:

The first download location in GENTOO_MIRRORS was an ftp site 
(ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu).  Since portage is looking for an http_proxy, 
calling an ftp site simply connects to the ftp site.  Moving the ftp site to 
the end of the mirror list made everything work.  Or at least it appears to 
work now.  I'll know more tomorrow when another update cycle takes place.

Thanks for the help, Dale.  

Peter

  

You're welcome.  Sometimes it is trial and error.

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] glibmm-2.8.4 failing to compile

2006-06-02 Thread Rumen Yotov
gentuxx wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm running an `emerge -Duatv world' and emerge is wanting to upgrade
 glibmm-2.8.1 to 2.8.4.  But 2.8.4 doesn't seem to want to compile.
 Here's the error I get:
 
 ../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
 `sigc::internal::signal_impl::insert(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base,
 sigc::slot_base const)'
 ../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
 `sigc::internal::signal_impl::erase(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base)'
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[3]: *** [test] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests/glibmm_value'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: dev-cpp/glibmm-2.8.4 failed.
 !!! Function gnome2_src_compile, Line 58, Exitcode 2
 !!! compile failure
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
 message.
 
 
 Any pointers would be a help.
 
 Thanks.
 
Hi,
Check if you have =dev-libs/libsigc++-2.0.11
RDEPEND==dev-libs/libsigc++-2.0.11
=dev-libs/glib-2.7
IIRC dev-libs/libsigc++ is slotted.
Or if yes try to recompile libsigc++-2.0.11, then again glibmm-2.8.4.
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[gentoo-user] Re: GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Sven Köhler
 And still I get this. Any ideas?

Upgrade to gentoolkit 0.2.2 and run revdep-revbuild. It now also
analyses *.la files and will discover the broken ones.

(But i have to tell you, that even if you recompiled all the packages,
some *.la files will remain. They don't get unmerged due to some bugs.
Just rerun revdep-rebuild to discover them, and remove them my hand.)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:29:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:48:21 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

  You'll need to add --update --deep to catch packages affected by the
  changed USE flags.
 
 no you have not:
 
 emerge -a --newuse world
  --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.
 
 and I can't remember that this was different in the past.

 Yes it was. Adding --update pulled in extra packages, even though they
 were the same version as installed. This was somewhat counter-intuitive,
 so the new behaviour makes more sense. You should still need --deep
 though.

Which version of emerge/portage is being discussed?  I am running
portage-2.0.54-r2.  The man page for emerge suggests (but does not
state) that --update is still needed.

  --update (-u)

Updates packages to the best version available, which may not
always be the highest version number due to masking for
testing and development.  This will also update direct
dependencies which may not be what you want.  In general, use
this option only in combination with the world or system
target.

I also don't see an explicit mention that --newuse implies --update

  --newuse (-N)

Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags
have changed since compilation.  An asterisk marks when a USE
flag has changed since the package was compiled.

Thanks in advance for the clarification and also a general thank you
for your high-quality contributions to the newsgroup.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:05:10 +0200, Sven Köhler wrote:

 (But i have to tell you, that even if you recompiled all the packages,
 some *.la files will remain. They don't get unmerged due to some bugs.
 Just rerun revdep-rebuild to discover them, and remove them my hand.)

It is usually because you have run fix_libtool_files.sh at some point,
which modified the files. Since they no longer match the digest
information from when the package was merged, portage doesn't remove them
when it unmerges the package.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about emerge -e world

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:25:11 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

1) How do I resume the build?
 
 emerge --resume
 so long as you can still boot :) which you should be able to.
 Otherwise, you may have to live-cd, chroot, emerge --resume.
 DONT do any other emerge commands in between, otherwise it won't know
 where to resume.

That's no longer quite true, at least with portage 2.1. You can now emerge
a single package without disturbing the information used by --resume. If
you emerge a list of packages, then the old resume information is lost.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 02 June 2006 16:00, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:44:46 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   --deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it,
   but on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.
 
  and I really do not believe that ;)

 Believe what you like, I am relating direct experiences here. Faith has
 nothing to do with it.

  If a package is 'hit' by the new flag, --newuse should cover it. With
  or without --deep-

 When run with --update only, emerge considers only those packages listed
 in world and their direct dependencies. Lower level dependencies won't be
 looked at, so portage won;t pick up the changed USE flag.

 From the man page

 --deep (-D)

 When used in conjunction with --update, this flag forces emerge to
 consider the entire dependency tree of packages, instead of checking only
 the immediate dependencies of the packages. As an example, this catches
 updates in libraries that are not directly listed in the dependencies of
 a package.

UPDATES

not NEWUSE

also from man emerge:
 --newuse (-N)
  Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags  have
  changed  since  compilation.   An asterisk marks when a USE flag
  has changed since the package was compiled.


and I have seen 'far away' dependencies, that got rebuild, without deep!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 02 June 2006 18:33, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 At Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:29:10 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:48:21 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   You'll need to add --update --deep to catch packages affected by the
   changed USE flags.
 
  no you have not:
 
  emerge -a --newuse world
 
   --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.
 
  and I can't remember that this was different in the past.
 
  Yes it was. Adding --update pulled in extra packages, even though they
  were the same version as installed. This was somewhat counter-intuitive,
  so the new behaviour makes more sense. You should still need --deep
  though.

 Which version of emerge/portage is being discussed?  I am running
 portage-2.0.54-r2.  The man page for emerge suggests (but does not
 state) that --update is still needed.

   --update (-u)

   Updates packages to the best version available, which may not
   always be the highest version number due to masking for
   testing and development.  This will also update direct
   dependencies which may not be what you want.  In general, use
   this option only in combination with the world or system
   target.

 I also don't see an explicit mention that --newuse implies --update

it is not in the manpage, but emerge tells it:
emerge -pN world
 --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies
.
.
.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:33:39 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Which version of emerge/portage is being discussed?

2.1-rc3

 I also don't see an explicit mention that --newuse implies --update
 
   --newuse (-N)
 
   Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags
   have changed since compilation.  An asterisk marks when a USE
   flag has changed since the package was compiled.

The man page hasn't changed in this respect, but emerge --newuse informs
you that it will add --update for you.


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[gentoo-user] Re: GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Sven Köhler
 (But i have to tell you, that even if you recompiled all the packages,
 some *.la files will remain. They don't get unmerged due to some bugs.
 Just rerun revdep-rebuild to discover them, and remove them my hand.)
 
 It is usually because you have run fix_libtool_files.sh at some point,
 which modified the files. Since they no longer match the digest
 information from when the package was merged, portage doesn't remove them
 when it unmerges the package.

I know, and that is not normal - it is a bug.

The *.la files have to be fixed - that's the normal part - but that
they don't get unmerged? That's not normal and the tool that fixes the
*.la files has to be fixed.

But i already talked about that on gentoo-devel. And it seems, they are
about to fix that.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GCC 4.1.1 unable to compile kdelibs due to missing libstdc++

2006-06-02 Thread Paulo J. Matos

On 02/06/06, Sven Köhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (But i have to tell you, that even if you recompiled all the packages,
 some *.la files will remain. They don't get unmerged due to some bugs.
 Just rerun revdep-rebuild to discover them, and remove them my hand.)

 It is usually because you have run fix_libtool_files.sh at some point,
 which modified the files. Since they no longer match the digest
 information from when the package was merged, portage doesn't remove them
 when it unmerges the package.

I know, and that is not normal - it is a bug.

The *.la files have to be fixed - that's the normal part - but that
they don't get unmerged? That's not normal and the tool that fixes the
*.la files has to be fixed.

But i already talked about that on gentoo-devel. And it seems, they are
about to fix that.




OK, thanks I'll try revdep-rebuild with gentoolkit 0.2.2.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] glibmm-2.8.4 failing to compile

2006-06-02 Thread gentuxx
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Rumen Yotov wrote:

gentuxx wrote:

Hi all,

I'm running an `emerge -Duatv world' and emerge is wanting to upgrade
glibmm-2.8.1 to 2.8.4. But 2.8.4 doesn't seem to want to compile.
Here's the error I get:

../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`sigc::internal::signal_impl::insert(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base,
sigc::slot_base const)'
../../glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so: undefined reference to
`sigc::internal::signal_impl::erase(std::_List_iteratorsigc::slot_base)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [test] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests/glibmm_value'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4/tests'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/glibmm-2.8.4/work/glibmm-2.8.4'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: dev-cpp/glibmm-2.8.4 failed.
!!! Function gnome2_src_compile, Line 58, Exitcode 2
!!! compile failure
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.


Any pointers would be a help.

Thanks.

Hi,
Check if you have =dev-libs/libsigc++-2.0.11
RDEPEND==dev-libs/libsigc++-2.0.11
 =dev-libs/glib-2.7
IIRC dev-libs/libsigc++ is slotted.
Or if yes try to recompile libsigc++-2.0.11, then again glibmm-2.8.4.
HTH.Rumen

Strange.  I recompiled dev-cpp/libsigc++ as suggested.  Didn't notice
any new use flags or anything.  But, after accomplishing that, I was
able to compile glibmm-2.8.4 without any problem.

Thanks for the help Rumen!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

On Friday 02 June 2006 16:00, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:44:46 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:


--deep is an option, and I understand why you choose not to use it,
but on this occasion it is necessary to accomplish the OP's goal.


and I really do not believe that ;)
  

Believe what you like, I am relating direct experiences here. Faith has
nothing to do with it.



If a package is 'hit' by the new flag, --newuse should cover it. With
or without --deep-
  

When run with --update only, emerge considers only those packages listed
in world and their direct dependencies. Lower level dependencies won't be
looked at, so portage won;t pick up the changed USE flag.

From the man page

--deep (-D)

When used in conjunction with --update, this flag forces emerge to
consider the entire dependency tree of packages, instead of checking only
the immediate dependencies of the packages. As an example, this catches
updates in libraries that are not directly listed in the dependencies of
a package.



UPDATES

not NEWUSE

also from man emerge:
 --newuse (-N)
  Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags  have
  changed  since  compilation.   An asterisk marks when a USE flag
  has changed since the package was compiled.


and I have seen 'far away' dependencies, that got rebuild, without deep!
  


It seems me and Neil has seen times where it didn't.  I have used -D
several times and it has not caused me any problems. 

Dale
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Re: [gentoo-user] Change profile

2006-06-02 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:47:03 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:33:39 -0400, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Which version of emerge/portage is being discussed?

 2.1-rc3

That explains why I didn't see it.  Thanks.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Timothy A. Holmes

 Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote:
 
 Remove the following line.
 
 
 Option DPMS true
 
 blah blah
 
 
 That should work.  If DPMS is not enabled it should not be able to cut
 off the monitor at all.  Don't forget to check setterm if you are
using
 a console.  That is controlled seperately from the GUI stuff.
 

[Timothy A. Holmes] 


Hu -- its still powering down -- after about 10 minutes or so -- any
other ideas?

Timothy A. Holmes
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Richard Fish

On 6/2/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Section Monitor

Identifier  Laptop Panel
HorizSync   31.5
VertRefresh 50-70
Option DPMS true
Option BlankTime 0
Option StandbyTime 0
Option SuspendTime 0
Option OffTime 0


RTFM

According to man xorg.conf, the BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime
and OffTime settings are supposed to be in the ServerFlags section,
not in the Monitor section.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: module questions

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 01/06/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mick wrote:



 OK, had a quick look but can't find a kernel option which builds a
 module called radeon_drv . . . where is it?


In the kernel config, hit the / key, a box will come up that you can
search for it.  Type in radeon and hit enter.  One of the ones that
comes up should help you.  It will give you the path to get to the
driver so you can enable it as a module or however you want/need it.  I
read about the neat little search feature a while back and it does come
in handy for sure.


Assuming I know what I'm looking for I usually grep the .config file.
When in menuconfig the / key is a handy way to get directly to what
your after, but what is the 'search next' key?
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[gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

Hi All,

Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
I go about it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



RTFM

According to man xorg.conf, the BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime
and OffTime settings are supposed to be in the ServerFlags section,
not in the Monitor section.


Also, I am not sure that completely removing the DPMS entry is the
same as adding false instead of true.  Worth trying it out .
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mike Owen

On 6/2/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,

Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
I go about it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
emerge kdebase-meta to get a minimal kde. Then you can emerge whatever other 
kde programs you want afterwards, eg. kmail, kopete, kpdf, etc. They're all 
separate ebuilds now.

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 5:16, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
 KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
 everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
 DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
 I go about it?
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth1 wireless problem

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 01/06/06, Michael W. Holdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Yup, exactly what happened!  Hmm... have to check the neighbors out, and
change teh WEP..


Am I right to assume from your previous message that WEP is not
enabled on the router?

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +, Mick wrote:

 Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
 KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
 everything except toys, games and educational packages.

Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
those that want to install everything.


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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +, Mick wrote:

 Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
 KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
 everything except toys, games and educational packages.

Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
those that want to install everything.


Thanks for all the replies.  What's the best way to find out what
-meta packages exist and what they contain?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.

Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 5:51, Mick wrote:
 On 02/06/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:07 +, Mick wrote:
   Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
   KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
   everything except toys, games and educational packages.
 
  Install kdebase-meta, kdenetwork-meta, kdepim-meta etc. kde-meta is for
  those that want to install everything.

 Thanks for all the replies.  What's the best way to find out what
 -meta packages exist and what they contain?
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Re: [gentoo-user] dosbox eating up resources

2006-06-02 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 I've noticed, dosbox eats up very much resources,

In your .dosboxrc set 'cycles' to a lower value.

 so for example 
 takes very very long

What does?

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[gentoo-user] Re: kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Jun  2 20:21, Mick (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 What's the best way to find out what -meta packages exist

eix 'kde.*-meta'

 and what they contain?

The KDE website is pretty good for that - see here:
http://kde.org/whatiskde/project.php#distribution

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.

Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta


Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Screen Power down

2006-06-02 Thread Teresa and Dale
Mick wrote:

 On 02/06/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 RTFM

 According to man xorg.conf, the BlankTime, StandbyTime, SuspendTime
 and OffTime settings are supposed to be in the ServerFlags section,
 not in the Monitor section.


 Also, I am not sure that completely removing the DPMS entry is the
 same as adding false instead of true.  Worth trying it out .


I'm not sure anymore either.  It used to be that way though.  If it was
not in there, the monitor would stay on all the time, except when in
console.  That may have changed though.  I may have even been using
Xfree then too.  I just always thought it was a option that you had to
turn on.

Me out of clues.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* On Jun  2 20:21, Mick (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 What's the best way to find out what -meta packages exist

eix 'kde.*-meta'

 and what they contain?

The KDE website is pretty good for that - see here:
http://kde.org/whatiskde/project.php#distribution


Sweet!  I've bookmarked it.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Raymond Lewis Rebbeck
$ ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | grep meta
kdeaccessibility-meta
kdeaddons-meta
kdeadmin-meta
kdeartwork-meta
kdebase-meta
kdebindings-meta
kdeedu-meta
kdegames-meta
kdegraphics-meta
kde-meta
kdemultimedia-meta
kdenetwork-meta
kdepim-meta
kdesdk-meta
kdetoys-meta
kdeutils-meta
kdewebdev-meta

On Saturday, 3 June 2006 6:13, Mick wrote:
 On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  They're the same as the monolithic packages but with -meta on the end.
 
  Easiest way to see what is in them: # emerge -pv foo-meta

 Thanks.
 Where's the complete list of available meta packages?
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

$ ls /usr/portage/kde-base/ | grep meta


Thanks.  Last question:

Is emerging kdebase-meta meant to pull in 45 packages, or are there
any old kde apps in my system pulling them in as I am trying to emerge
my new split KDE?


From the log:

===
1149285323:  *** emerge --update --deep --verbose kdebase-meta
1149285332:   emerge (1 of 45) kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6 to /
1149285332:  === (1 of 45) Cleaning
(kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.ebuild)
1149285341:  === (1 of 45) Compiling/Merging
(kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6::/usr/portage/kde-base/kdelibs/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6.ebuild)
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[gentoo-user] USB digital video capture from camcorder?

2006-06-02 Thread Jose Gonzalez Gomez
Hi there,I've recently purchased a Panasonic GS75 (MiniDV) camcorder and I'd like to download and edit videos on linux (if possible). The camera comes with an USB cable, so I tried to find something to get the videos out from the camera. The recommended application for this seems to be kino, but it seems that is only able to capture from ieee1394 devices, is this correct?
So, is there any way to capture or download videos from the camera using the provided USB cable? Should I buy a DV cable (the camera has DV output)?Thanks in advance, best regardsJose


Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Philip Webb
060602 Mick wrote:
 I uninstalled monolithic KDE  am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.
 I want to install everything except toys, games and educational packages.

If you really mean everything, other responses are probably best,
but you can pick  choose much more finely.  To start, you need
 kde-base/kdelibs , then  kde-base/kdebase-startkde  (incl  11  deps).
Then you can choose individual packages from  /usr/portage/kde-base/ .
You might even decide to add  1  game (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Peter Kelly
On Friday 02 June 2006 14:55, Mike Owen wrote:
 On 6/2/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Apologies if this has been asked before.  I uninstalled my monolithic
  KDE and am ready to install the split KDE ebuilds.  I want to install
  everything except toys, games and educational packages.  Since the
  DO_NOT_COMPILE is not meant to be used anymore, how would you suggest
  I go about it?
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 Install kdebase-meta, kdeutils-meta, kdeadmin-meta, etc.

Forgive my own ignorance, but what is the advantage to doing this over 
kdebase, kdeutils, kdeadmin, etc?

I've got plenty of disk space, so I never bothered moving away from the 
monolithic builds.  emerge kde worked better for me than emerge kde-meta, 
which brought in all the same binaries.  I know it's much faster to update a 
particular package as opposed to kdepim (or kdenetwork, or kdemultimedia), 
but that's not really an issue for me.  

I really don't want to start a war, but I don't understand why the OP didn't 
just 
# emerge -C kdetoys kdegames kdeedu 

(with any required version numbers) and be done with it.  Not having removed 
kde packages, I'm not sure that would work.  But something along those lines 
should have solved his problem.  

Peter

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[gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Does anyone know of an app to convert outlook *.msg files to a text
email?  I have some individual email (*.msg) files from Outlook, not a
.pst archive.

I dragged-n-dropped the emails from crappy Outlook and now have them on
my Gentoo box.  I _thought_ they would have been stored as regular old
email with one email in each file.  Nope.  Upon opening any of the MSG
email files in VIM, all I see is binary crap.

The only docs I have found on the Outlook MSG file format so far is:

MSG files are outlook messages saved as files.  They are saved as COM
stuctured storage OLE2 compound documents or DocFile, which is the
same technique used by Word, Excel and many many more.

Can't MS even do email right?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-meta minus toys, games, etc

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, Peter Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Install kdebase-meta, kdeutils-meta, kdeadmin-meta, etc.

Forgive my own ignorance, but what is the advantage to doing this over
kdebase, kdeutils, kdeadmin, etc?

I've got plenty of disk space, so I never bothered moving away from the
monolithic builds.  emerge kde worked better for me than emerge kde-meta,
which brought in all the same binaries.  I know it's much faster to update a
particular package as opposed to kdepim (or kdenetwork, or kdemultimedia),
but that's not really an issue for me.

I really don't want to start a war, but I don't understand why the OP didn't
just
# emerge -C kdetoys kdegames kdeedu

(with any required version numbers) and be done with it.  Not having removed
kde packages, I'm not sure that would work.  But something along those lines
should have solved his problem.


Yes it would (more or less).  If I remember right, last time I tried
unmerging kdetoys it would return everytime I did an emerge -u.  That
was a couple of years ago, before /etc/portage/* appeared.  Now, I
thought that sooner or later monolithic KDE will be deprecated and so
I decided to eventually bite the bullet and move onto the split
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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread Mick

On 02/06/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Can't MS even do email right?


Err, no.

Have you tried importing them in a mail client (kmail, thunderbird,
Opera)?  I haven't tried it myself, but that's how I would go about it
in the first instance.  Should that fail, you could try Openoffice,
Koffice and or Abiword in case they can convert it into a .doc file
and so read it, before you save it as a .txt file.  If that works you
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Re: [gentoo-user] fvwm does not start

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel Vrcic
* Rakotomandimby Mihamina [06-06-02 12:12]:
[...]
 I also put _only_:
   fvwm 
 into
   /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
 
 When I launch startx:
[...]
 As you see, no errors.
 Ont thing I notice: I quickly a x in the middle of the screen then it
 disapears. It's the mouse pointer. But it rapidly disapears. Would you
 help me solve this?

You're forking fvwm into background. Fvwm, as any other WM, must be
executed in parent shell, without forking.

Put something like this

#!/bin/bash
exec fvwm2

into your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.

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[gentoo-user] Re: xrdb woes

2006-06-02 Thread James
Ryan Tandy tarpman at gmail.com writes:


  Beats the hell out of me. 

  eix xrdb
  * app-emacs/xrdb-mode
   Available versions:  2.31
   Installed:   none
  
  * x11-apps/xrdb
   Available versions:  ~1.0.1 ~1.0.2
   Installed:   none

  However, I can type 'xrdb' at the command line and it will spawn (some)
  process:

  ps aux | grep xrdb
  james18351  103  0.0   2292   416 pts/15   R+   15:31   0:09 xrdb

 $ equery belongs `which xrdb`

 I'll bet you're still using monolithic (7.0) Xorg, aren't you?


Yep

eix xorg-x11
* x11-base/xorg-x11
 Available versions:  6.8.2-r7 [M]6.9.0-r1 ~7.0-r1 [M]7.1
 Installed:   6.8.2-r7


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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread Richard Fish

On 6/2/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can't MS even do email right?


This was a rhetorical question, right?

Anyway, the best way I have found to migrate messages from outlook is
to setup an IMAP server, and use outlook to transfer the messages to
the imap server.  Most linux mail clients will speak to an imap
server, so you can use thunderbird, kmail, etc to transfer the
messages to local folders or text files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xrdb woes

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan Tandy

James wrote:

Ryan Tandy tarpman at gmail.com writes:


I'll bet you're still using monolithic (7.0) Xorg, aren't you?



Yep

eix xorg-x11
* x11-base/xorg-x11
 Available versions:  6.8.2-r7 [M]6.9.0-r1 ~7.0-r1 [M]7.1
 Installed:   6.8.2-r7


The ebuild, x11-apps/xrdb, is for modular X.  If you're using monolithic 
X, xrdb is provided by xorg-x11.  Try rebuilding your xorg-x11, and see 
if that helps.  Have you run revdep-revbuild recently?

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[gentoo-user] User Relations Co-lead

2006-06-02 Thread Christel Dahlskjaer
Hi, 

It is my pleasure to inform you that after much discussion I can
announce that Joshua Jackson (tsunam) has come onboard to act as my
co-lead in Userrel[1]. 

Wish him luck, I suspect he will need it!

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/user-relations/index.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Mick wrote:
 On 02/06/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can't MS even do email right?
 
 Err, no.
 
 Have you tried importing them in a mail client (kmail, thunderbird,
 Opera)?  I haven't tried it myself, but that's how I would go about it
 in the first instance.  Should that fail, you could try Openoffice,
 Koffice and or Abiword in case they can convert it into a .doc file
 and so read it, before you save it as a .txt file.  If that works you
 could probably write a macro for doing it.

I tried opening the .msg email file in Thunderbird.  Thunderbird
actually was able to pull out the From: To: Subject: and date.  However
the body was blank and Thunderbird showed an attachment of winmail.dat.

What I have read on the net is that the Outlook MSG format is some type
of Office like format.  I will try your suggestion of OOo.

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] Outlook MSG file conversion

2006-06-02 Thread JimD
Richard Fish wrote:
 On 6/2/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can't MS even do email right?
 
 This was a rhetorical question, right?
 
 Anyway, the best way I have found to migrate messages from outlook is
 to setup an IMAP server, and use outlook to transfer the messages to
 the imap server.  Most linux mail clients will speak to an imap
 server, so you can use thunderbird, kmail, etc to transfer the
 messages to local folders or text files.
 
 -Richard

I am running courier-imap.  I guess I can use outlook under VMware to
transfer the emails to my IMAP server.  I was hoping to be able to do it
off-line, but oh well.

Thanks,

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[gentoo-user] Gnome-2.16

2006-06-02 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Where is gnome-2.16? It's not in portage? eix gnome-desktop only shows
2.14.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-2.16

2006-06-02 Thread Keith Kastorff
On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 20:20 -0700, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 Where is gnome-2.16? It's not in portage? eix gnome-desktop only shows
 2.14.

Since 2.16 doesn't exist, that seems appropriate. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-2.16

2006-06-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 Where is gnome-2.16? It's not in portage? eix gnome-desktop only shows
 2.14.
 

Well,
According to GNOME's homepage, 2.14 is the stable release and 2.15 is
the development build. 2.16 doesn't exist, that is probably why its not
in portage ;-)

http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-2.16

2006-06-02 Thread Ow Mun Heng
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 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  Where is gnome-2.16? It's not in portage? eix gnome-desktop only shows
  2.14.
  
 
 Well,
 According to GNOME's homepage, 2.14 is the stable release and 2.15 is
 the development build. 2.16 doesn't exist, that is probably why its not
 in portage ;-)
 
 http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning


Arrgh.. Crap.. Sorry for the noise. (Bad Hair day today)

So.. I believe the correct question is .. when will Gentoo unmask
Gnome-2.14? When is the timeline?

(I know I can unmask it myself, but that's not something I want to do)

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[gentoo-user] perl-cleaner broke or user error?

2006-06-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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Hello,
Can I get some confirmation on the behavior of perl-cleaner? For me it
is trying to merge packages that A) don't exist or B) are not the most
recent. Bug or what?

Please have a look at this:
- ---
% sudo perl-cleaner all ask
snip
Press Enter to see the list of ebuilds we'll be evaluating

app-editors/vim-6.4
dev-perl/Archive-Zip-1.16
dev-perl/Compress-Zlib-1.41
dev-perl/DateManip-5.44
dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05
dev-perl/XML-Parser-2.34
dev-perl/perl-tk-804.027
dev-util/subversion-1.2.3-r2
mail-mta/exim-4.60-r1
media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5
net-im/gaim-1.5.0
net-irc/irssi-0.8.10
net-nds/openldap-2.2.28-r3
perl-core/Test-Simple-0.62
snip
Fri Jun  2 22:55:16 CDT 2006 : There are no unmasked ebuilds to satisfy
app-editors/vim. Skipping
dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05 is not the latest available. Use version
1.03? (Y/n) n
net-irc/irssi-0.8.10_rc5-r1 is not the latest available. Use version
0.8.9-r1? (Y/n) n
perl-core/Test-Simple-0.60 is not the latest available. Use version
0.54? (Y/n) n
snip
Press Enter to see the final list of ebuilds to install

dev-perl/Archive-Zip
dev-perl/Compress-Zlib
dev-perl/DateManip
=dev-perl/Locale-gettext-1.05
dev-perl/XML-Parser
dev-perl/perl-tk
dev-util/subversion
mail-mta/exim
media-gfx/imagemagick
net-im/gaim
=net-irc/irssi-0.8.10_rc5-r1
net-nds/openldap
=perl-core/Test-Simple-0.60
snip
- ---
You can see here that perl-cleaner ignores vim, and tries to install a
version of irssi that doesn't even exist in the tree.

% eix irssi
* net-irc/irssi
 Available versions:  0.8.10 ~0.8.10-r3
% eix -e vim
* app-editors/vim
 Available versions:  6.4 ~7.0.17

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome-2.16

2006-06-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 22:39 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
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 Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 Where is gnome-2.16? It's not in portage? eix gnome-desktop only shows
 2.14.

 Well,
 According to GNOME's homepage, 2.14 is the stable release and 2.15 is
 the development build. 2.16 doesn't exist, that is probably why its not
 in portage ;-)

 http://live.gnome.org/ReleasePlanning
 
 
 Arrgh.. Crap.. Sorry for the noise. (Bad Hair day today)
 
 So.. I believe the correct question is .. when will Gentoo unmask
 Gnome-2.14? When is the timeline?
 
 (I know I can unmask it myself, but that's not something I want to do)
 

Packages get marked stable 30 days after the last resolved bug
(unofficial knowledge, but I believe it is correct)

There are quite afew bugs so I bet it will be awhile yet before it is
marked stable:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=producttype0-0-0=substringvalue0-0-0=gnomefield0-0-1=componenttype0-0-1=substringvalue0-0-1=gnomefield0-0-2=short_desctype0-0-2=substringvalue0-0-2=gnomefield0-0-3=status_whiteboardtype0-0-3=substringvalue0-0-3=gnomefield1-0-0=producttype1-0-0=substringvalue1-0-0=2.14field1-0-1=componenttype1-0-1=substringvalue1-0-1=2.14field1-0-2=short_desctype1-0-2=substringvalue1-0-2=2.14field1-0-3=status_whiteboardtype1-0-3=substringvalue1-0-3=2.14

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