Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless intel 4965 howto

2009-02-23 Thread Vladimir Rusinov
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Alexander Puchmayr 
alexander.puchm...@linznet.at wrote:

 Hi there!

 Is there a working howto of how to get the wireless connection to work?
 Its a built-in chipset, intel 4965AG, and it was working with kernel
 2.6.24,
 but I fail with any kernel newer. 2.6.26 had serious problems with
 rfkill-switch, and the only way for me was to unload the driver module,
 switch on the wifi-interface, load module again and then it worked. A
 little bit clumsy, but it worked.


Oh, you are lucky, I've fixed this problem some minutes ago and now I see
your message.
You probably have something like 'failed to load firmware' on your dmegs.
So, you have to go to http://intellinuxwireless/, download firmware for your
chip, unpack it and copy to /lib/firmware.

HTH

-- 
Vladimir Rusinov
http://greenmice.info/


Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless intel 4965 howto

2009-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:26:18 +0300, Vladimir Rusinov wrote:

 You probably have something like 'failed to load firmware' on your
 dmegs. So, you have to go to http://intellinuxwireless/, download
 firmware for your chip, unpack it and copy to /lib/firmware.

Or emerge net-wireless/iwl4965-ucode


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   2. If it stinks, it's chemistry.
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[gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Hi

I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
template if you would.

Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
backups up to date tho.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Damian
Hi,

I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
can find anything in google.

I would like the brightness of the screen to be dimmed when the
computer is idle for a certain amount of time. Do you have any clues
where I can start digging?

Thanks in advance,
Damian.



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 03:10:47 -0600, Dale wrote:

  could someone send me a copy of a sets file
 for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
 template if you would.

A sets file is just a list of packages, in the same format
as /var/lib/portage/world. A quick and dirty way to move your KDE
packages into a set

mkdir -p /etc/portage/sets
grep '^kde-base' /var/lib/portage/world /etc/portage/sets/kde 
sed -i '/^kde-base/d' /var/lib/portage/world
echo '@kde' /var/lib/portage/world_sets


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread AllenJB

Hi,

Portage documentation:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/doc/portage.html

Built-in sets specification file:
/usr/share/portage/config/sets.conf

For KDE sets, check the sets directory in the kde-testing overlay:
http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/kde.git;a=tree

User sets are specified in the /etc/portage/sets.conf file (doesn't 
exist by default).


AllenJB


Dale wrote:

Hi

I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
template if you would.

Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
backups up to date tho.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread AllenJB

Hi again,

One more note. I recommend you use a prefix for your own sets, to avoid 
conflicts with official or overlay sets. ie. I call my kde-3.5 set: 
ajb-kde-3.5


While portage almost certainly has a system for handling conflicting 
sets (at a guess, probably user  overlay  official tree, the same way 
everything else goes), this removes any ambiguity.


AllenJB

Dale wrote:

Hi

I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
template if you would.

Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
backups up to date tho.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)





Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 23 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
 Hi

 I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
 portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
 and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
 sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
 link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
 for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
 template if you would.

 Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
 backups up to date tho.  o_O

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

put sets file in /etc/portage/sets

example:
cat /etc/portage/sets/qt-copy
=x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-svg-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.
=x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.4.

you are done. Really, there is no magic about sets. You put all the packet-
atoms you want into a file, put the file into /etc/portage/sets and emerge 
@setname. That's it.

Or look at this:
cat /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-testing/sets/kde-4.2
# We don't include kdesdk on the global set
kde-base/kdelibs:4.2
kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.2
kde-base/kate:4.2
kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.2
kde-base/kde-l10n:4.2

@kdeaccessibility-4.2
@kdeadmin-4.2
@kdeartwork-4.2
@kdebase-4.2
@kdeedu-4.2
@kdegames-4.2
@kdegraphics-4.2
@kdemultimedia-4.2
@kdenetwork-4.2
@kdepim-4.2
@kdetoys-4.2
@kdeutils-4.2

#for developers
#...@kdebindings-4.2
#...@kdesdk-4.2
#...@kdewebdev-4.2

so as you can see - a set can be create out of other sets.



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 23 February 2009 11:10:47 Dale wrote:
 Hi

 I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
 portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
 and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
 sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
 link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
 for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
 template if you would.

 Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
 backups up to date tho.  o_O

Sets are easy :-) For kde, you get a ton of set files if you add the kde-
testing overlay. For instance, the kde-4.2 set looks like this:

$ cat /var/portage/local/layman/kde-testing/sets/kde-4.2
# We don't include kdesdk on the global set
kde-base/kdelibs:4.2
kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.2
kde-base/kate:4.2
kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.2
kde-base/kde-l10n:4.2

@kdeaccessibility-4.2
@kdeadmin-4.2
@kdeartwork-4.2
@kdebase-4.2
@kdeedu-4.2
@kdegames-4.2
@kdegraphics-4.2
@kdemultimedia-4.2
@kdenetwork-4.2
@kdepim-4.2
@kdetoys-4.2
@kdeutils-4.2

#for developers
#...@kdebindings-4.2
#...@kdesdk-4.2
#...@kdewebdev-4.2



So it's nothing more than a bunch of conventional portage atoms, one per line.
I made some of my own for enlightenment-17. The main set is e17 and looks like 
so:

$ cat /etc/portage/sets/e17
@e17-libs
@e17-apps
@e17-modules
@e17-odds


A set can include other sets, that's what the leading '@' does. From the above 
I also have a set called 'e17-libs' which looks like so:

$ cat /etc/portage/sets/e17-libs
dev-db/edb
media-libs/imlib2
dev-libs/eina
dev-libs/eet
x11-libs/evas
x11-libs/e_dbus
x11-libs/ecore
dev-libs/efreet
dev-libs/embryo
media-libs/edje
media-libs/epsilon
x11-libs/esmart
media-libs/emotion
x11-libs/etk
x11-libs/ewl
dev-libs/exml
dev-util/enhance


Obviously, those ebuilds must all exist. I get to maintain them by myself and 
make sure they work, but that has nothing to do with sets :-)

If you make your own sets, dump the files into /etc/portage/sets/ and emerge 
them like so:

emerge -av @e17

Portage will record that you installed a set and remembers it, but the package 
names do not go into your world file. Think of them as being dependencies of 
the set, so an update picks up and changes and emerges things as normal. If 
you find that you need to remove the KDE set, just run 'emerge -C @kde-4.2' 
and portage will unmerge the whole lot.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com




Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
AllenJB wrote:
 Hi again,

 One more note. I recommend you use a prefix for your own sets, to
 avoid conflicts with official or overlay sets. ie. I call my kde-3.5
 set: ajb-kde-3.5

 While portage almost certainly has a system for handling conflicting
 sets (at a guess, probably user  overlay  official tree, the same
 way everything else goes), this removes any ambiguity.

 AllenJB

That prefix sounds like a GOOD idea.  That could get confusing without
it for sure. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - command line read *.csv create new file

2009-02-23 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 23 February 2009, 00:31, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Yeah, that's probably almost usable as it is . I tried it with n=3 and
 n=10. Worked both times just fine. The initial issue might be (as with
 Willie's sed code) that the first line wasn't quite right and required
 some hand editing. I'd prefer not to have to hand edit anything as the
 files are large and that step will be slow. I can work on that.

But then could you paste an example of such line, so we can see it? The 
first line was not special in the sample you posted...

 As per the message to Willie it would be nice to be able to drop
 columns out but technically I suppose it's not really required. All of
 this is going into another program which must at some level understand
 what the columns are. If I have extra dates and don't use them that's
 probably workable.

Anyway, it's not difficult to add that feature:

BEGIN { FS=OFS=,}
{
  r=$NF;NF--
  for(i=1;in;i++){
s[i]=s[i+1]
dt[i]=dt[i+1]
if((NR=n)(i==1))printf %s%s,dt[1],OFS
if(NR=n)printf %s%s,s[i],OFS
  }
  sep=dt[n]=;for(i=1;i=dropcol;i++){dt[n]=dt[n] sep $i;sep=OFS}
  sub(^([^,]*,){dropcol},)
  s[n]=$0
  if(NR=n)printf %s,%s\n, s[n],r
}

There is a new variable dropcol which contains the number of columns to 
drop. Also, for the above to work, you must add the --re-interval 
command line switch to awk, eg 

awk --re-interval -v n=4 -v dropcol=2 -f program.awk datafile.csv

 The down side is the output file is 10x larger than the input file -
 roughly - and my current input files are 40-60MB so the output files
 will be 600MB. Not huge but if they grew too much more I might get
 beyond what a single file can be on ext3, right? Isn't that 2GB or so?

That is strange, the output file could be bigger but not by that 
factor...if you don't mind, again could you paste a sample input file 
(maybe just some lines, to get an idea...)?



Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Antonio Quartulli
Damian ha scritto:
 Hi,
 
 I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
 laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
 can find anything in google.
 
 I would like the brightness of the screen to be dimmed when the
 computer is idle for a certain amount of time. Do you have any clues
 where I can start digging?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Damian.
 
 
It depends on your video driver. First of all, which video card have you
got?

-- 
Antonio Quartulli http://www.ritirata.org/ordex



Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Damian (damian.o...@gmail.com) [23.02.09 10:19]:
 Hi,
 
 I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
 laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
 can find anything in google.
 
Did you enable the apropiate acpi drivers in the kernel? They depend on 
your laptop model...

 I would like the brightness of the screen to be dimmed when the
 computer is idle for a certain amount of time. Do you have any clues
 where I can start digging?

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml

 
 Thanks in advance,
 Damian.
 

HTH
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Montag 23 Februar 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Hi

 I'm wanting to experiment a little with the new sets feature of
 portage.  I have searched around the forums, even looked at gentoo wiki
 and read a few man pages.  I can not find a good link to a how to for
 sets.  I would like to have a couple things if someone has them.  1) a
 link to a good how to.  2) could someone send me a copy of a sets file
 for something like KDE or something.  Just something I can use for a
 template if you would.

 Thanks much.  Oh, yea, I may be about to break something.  I got my
 backups up to date tho.  o_O

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 

 put sets file in /etc/portage/sets

 example:
 cat /etc/portage/sets/qt-copy
 =x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-core-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-gui-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-script-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-sql-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-svg-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-test-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.4.
 =x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.4.

 you are done. Really, there is no magic about sets. You put all the packet-
 atoms you want into a file, put the file into /etc/portage/sets and emerge 
 @setname. That's it.

 Or look at this:
 cat /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-testing/sets/kde-4.2
 # We don't include kdesdk on the global set
 kde-base/kdelibs:4.2
 kde-base/kdepimlibs:4.2
 kde-base/kate:4.2
 kde-base/kdeplasma-addons:4.2
 kde-base/kde-l10n:4.2

 @kdeaccessibility-4.2
 @kdeadmin-4.2
 @kdeartwork-4.2
 @kdebase-4.2
 @kdeedu-4.2
 @kdegames-4.2
 @kdegraphics-4.2
 @kdemultimedia-4.2
 @kdenetwork-4.2
 @kdepim-4.2
 @kdetoys-4.2
 @kdeutils-4.2

 #for developers
 #...@kdebindings-4.2
 #...@kdesdk-4.2
 #...@kdewebdev-4.2

 so as you can see - a set can be create out of other sets.


   

Ahhh, so a specific version can be placed in there just like in the
world file.  Neato !!!

Lets say I have a set named dk-kde, with the prefix Allen suggested, and
I put kde-meta in that file.  Would that emerge all the KDE or just that
one package?  I emerged kde-meta to install KDE so that is all there is
in my world file right now.  I notice you have several kde packages in
your list.

I'm going to do some reading on the links already posted in a bit. 
Getting ready to cook a roast.  Got to peal taters, wash carrots and
slice up a onion. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] etc/conf.d/net format ?

2009-02-23 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi,

I have a timing problem setting up my ADSL network via bridge 2684

My script worked just fine until I moved my Gentoo system to my
new fast multicore PC.

Now it looks like the network configuration proceeds too fast.

In /etc/conf.d/net
I have
br2684ctl_nas0=-e 0 -a 8.35
config_nas0=( null )

config_ppp0=ppp  # Runs /lib/rcscripts/net/pppd.sh
link_ppp0='nas0' # The name of the RFC2684 bridge interface
plugins_ppp0=pppoe

and so on.

From /var/log/messages I see that the nas0 interface created
by br2684ctl is not ready yet when it's needed.
I get

/etc/init.d/net.nas0[3452]: ERROR: interface nas0 does not exist
/etc/init.d/net.nas0[3453]: Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel 
module for your hardware
/etc/init.d/net.nas0[3392]: ERROR: net.nas0 failed to start
/etc/init.d/net.ppp0[3454]: ERROR: cannot start net.ppp0 as net.nas0 would not 
start
br2684ctl[3426]: Interface nas0 created sucessfully
br2684ctl[3426]: Communicating over ATM 0.8.35, encapsulation: LLC
br2684ctl[3426]: Interface configured
br2684ctl[3426]: RFC 1483/2684 bridge daemon started

which shows that it is ready (only) now.

IF I start net.ppp0 afterwards again, the network comes up.

So to fix this, I'd like to do some 'sleep' after /usr/bin/br2684ctl has
executed.

Where is the syntax
br2684ctl_nas0= ...

explained and how can I insert some 'sleep'?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.



-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:03:10 -0600, Dale wrote:

 Lets say I have a set named dk-kde, with the prefix Allen suggested, and
 I put kde-meta in that file.  Would that emerge all the KDE or just that
 one package?  I emerged kde-meta to install KDE so that is all there is
 in my world file right now.  I notice you have several kde packages in
 your list.

Sets are a replacement for meta-packages, so your set would contain the
packages you need. If it did contain kde-meta, then it would install all
of KDE, because that is a dependency of kde-meta.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] etc/conf.d/net format ?

2009-02-23 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:28 +0100 (CET)
Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 config_ppp0=ppp  # Runs /lib/rcscripts/net/pppd.sh
 link_ppp0='nas0' # The name of the RFC2684 bridge interface

I've never used link_* syntax to specify dependencies, prehaps it has
been obsoleted and not working properly?

Try:
rc_need_ppp0=nas0

Certainly works for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] etc/conf.d/net format ?

2009-02-23 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:31:18 +0500
Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:28 +0100 (CET)
 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 
  config_ppp0=ppp  # Runs /lib/rcscripts/net/pppd.sh
  link_ppp0='nas0' # The name of the RFC2684 bridge interface
 
 I've never used link_* syntax to specify dependencies, prehaps it has
 been obsoleted and not working properly?
 
 Try:
 rc_need_ppp0=nas0
 
 Certainly works for me.
 

Sorry, I was too rash to send it away without looking at my actual net
file. You should specify init.d script name in rc_need, not just some
interface name, so it should look like this:

rc_need_ppp0=net.nas0

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Re: [gentoo-user] Issue with e2fsprogs

2009-02-23 Thread CJoeB
AllenJB wrote:
 CJoeB wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I know there is a bug here, but I followed this from the bug comments:

 It's not a bug. It's a valid blocker. They happen.
Yes, I know that, but I seem to remember this issue before and so, did a
google and the solution I found was in a bug report, so I assumed it was
still a bug.  Sorry.


 1. emerge -NuDav --fetchonly world
 2. emerge -C ss com_err e2fsprogs
 3. emerge -NuDav --nodeps e2fsprogs-libs e2fsprogs

 Using -D (--deep) and --nodeps is contradictory. In addition, you just
 unmerged e2fsprogs, which means using --update (-u) now makes very
 little sense. -N (--newuse) also makes very little sense (in addition
 to the fact that it implies --update).

 4. echo sys-libs/com_err /etc/portage/package.mask
 5. echo sys-libs/ss /etc/portage/package.mask
 6. echo sys-libs/com_err-1.40.11
 /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
 7. echo sys-libs/ss-1.40.11 /etc/portage/profile/package.provided

 You should not add these packages to package.provided. There should be
 no need for this. I can see this causing issues.
I didn't do this.  I never got beyond step 3.


 From the forums:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-712898.html

 # echo =app-crypt/mit-krb5-1.6.3-r2  /etc/portage/package.keywords
 # emerge --sync
 # emerge -f e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs
 # emerge --unmerge ss com_err e2fsprogs
 # emerge -av e2fsprogs e2fsprogs-libs
No sure why I add mit-krb5, I don't think it was installed before. 
Regardless, I added the line to my package.keywords file, but it still
wants to pull in mit-krb5-1.6.3-r4.

After unmerge ss and com_err and e2fsprogs (which I had already done,
e2fsprogs-libs emerge fine, but I am still getting collisions with
e2fsprogs, even if I use the --nodeps switch.


 You should also try to make sure you're using the latest version of
 portage (=2.1.6) as this has blocker handling functionality.

I do.  I was updating world and portage was the first thing it pulled in.


 This worked from a few people, so I felt safe doing it.

 On step 3, e2fsprogs-libs emerged fine, but at the end of the emerge of
 e2fsprogs, the emerge bombed and I got a message saying that e2progs was
 not merged due to file collisions.

 Please post the complete message (ie. the complete list of file
 collisions).
This is what displayed at the end of the attempt to emerge e2fsprogs:

Searching all installed packages for file collisions...
 *
 * Press Ctrl-C to Stop
 *
 * sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3-r1
 *  /lib/libblkid.so
 *  /lib/libblkid.so.1
 *  /lib/libblkid.so.1.0
 *  /lib/libuuid.so
 *  /lib/libuuid.so.1
 *  /lib/libuuid.so.1.2
 *  /usr/include/blkid/blkid.h
 *  /usr/include/blkid/blkid_types.h
 *  /usr/include/uuid/uuid.h
 *  /usr/lib/libblkid.a
 *  /usr/lib/libblkid.so
 *  /usr/lib/libuuid.a
 *  /usr/lib/libuuid.so
 *  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/blkid.pc
 *  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/uuid.pc
 *  /usr/share/info/libext2fs.info.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/libblkid.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_clear.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_compare.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_copy.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate_random.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate_time.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_is_null.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_parse.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_time.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_unparse.3.bz2
 *
 * Package 'sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9' NOT merged due to file collisions.
 * If necessary, refer to your elog messages for the whole content of the
 * above message.  

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Issue with e2fsprogs

2009-02-23 Thread AllenJB

CJoeB wrote:

AllenJB wrote:

CJoeB wrote:

On step 3, e2fsprogs-libs emerged fine, but at the end of the emerge of
e2fsprogs, the emerge bombed and I got a message saying that e2progs was
not merged due to file collisions.

Please post the complete message (ie. the complete list of file
collisions).

This is what displayed at the end of the attempt to emerge e2fsprogs:

Searching all installed packages for file collisions...
 *
 * Press Ctrl-C to Stop
 *
 * sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3-r1
 *  /lib/libblkid.so
 *  /lib/libblkid.so.1
 *  /lib/libblkid.so.1.0
 *  /lib/libuuid.so
 *  /lib/libuuid.so.1
 *  /lib/libuuid.so.1.2
 *  /usr/include/blkid/blkid.h
 *  /usr/include/blkid/blkid_types.h
 *  /usr/include/uuid/uuid.h
 *  /usr/lib/libblkid.a
 *  /usr/lib/libblkid.so
 *  /usr/lib/libuuid.a
 *  /usr/lib/libuuid.so
 *  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/blkid.pc
 *  /usr/lib/pkgconfig/uuid.pc
 *  /usr/share/info/libext2fs.info.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/libblkid.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_clear.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_compare.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_copy.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate_random.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_generate_time.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_is_null.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_parse.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_time.3.bz2
 *  /usr/share/man/man3/uuid_unparse.3.bz2
 *
 * Package 'sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9' NOT merged due to file collisions.
 * If necessary, refer to your elog messages for the whole content of the
 * above message.  


Note the version numbers here - you're trying to use e2fsprogs-1.40.9 
with e2fsprogs-libs-1.41.3 - these packages should both be at the same 
version.


Please check package.keywords and package.mask for any entries relating 
to e2fsprogs. I'm surprised portage even attempted to merge these 
without a fight.


AllenJB



Regards,

Colleen





[gentoo-user] MonetBD on portage?

2009-02-23 Thread laurent

Hi,

I'm interested in trying monetDB, and it's not clear that it never has 
been on the portage.
It's not there right now but when looking on google it's seems to have 
in the past.


I should just download the source from monetDB on their website and 
compile or is there something to be done using the portage ?


thx
L



Re: [gentoo-user] MonetBD on portage?

2009-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM, laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm interested in trying monetDB, and it's not clear that it never has been
 on the portage.
 It's not there right now but when looking on google it's seems to have in
 the past.

 I should just download the source from monetDB on their website and compile
 or is there something to be done using the portage ?

 thx
 L

Apparently monetdb maintainer requested it to be removed from Portage.
You can still access the prior ebuilds at:

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-db/monetdb/?hideattic=0

Good luck
Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - command line read *.csv create new file

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu shr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
 On Monday 23 February 2009, 00:31, Mark Knecht wrote:

 Yeah, that's probably almost usable as it is . I tried it with n=3 and
 n=10. Worked both times just fine. The initial issue might be (as with
 Willie's sed code) that the first line wasn't quite right and required
 some hand editing. I'd prefer not to have to hand edit anything as the
 files are large and that step will be slow. I can work on that.

 But then could you paste an example of such line, so we can see it? The
 first line was not special in the sample you posted...

 As per the message to Willie it would be nice to be able to drop
 columns out but technically I suppose it's not really required. All of
 this is going into another program which must at some level understand
 what the columns are. If I have extra dates and don't use them that's
 probably workable.

 Anyway, it's not difficult to add that feature:

 BEGIN { FS=OFS=,}
 {
  r=$NF;NF--
  for(i=1;in;i++){
s[i]=s[i+1]
dt[i]=dt[i+1]
if((NR=n)(i==1))printf %s%s,dt[1],OFS
if(NR=n)printf %s%s,s[i],OFS
  }
  sep=dt[n]=;for(i=1;i=dropcol;i++){dt[n]=dt[n] sep $i;sep=OFS}
  sub(^([^,]*,){dropcol},)
  s[n]=$0
  if(NR=n)printf %s,%s\n, s[n],r
 }

 There is a new variable dropcol which contains the number of columns to
 drop. Also, for the above to work, you must add the --re-interval
 command line switch to awk, eg

 awk --re-interval -v n=4 -v dropcol=2 -f program.awk datafile.csv

Thanks. I'll give that a try later today. I also like Willie's idea
about using cut. That seems pretty flexible without any programming.


 The down side is the output file is 10x larger than the input file -
 roughly - and my current input files are 40-60MB so the output files
 will be 600MB. Not huge but if they grew too much more I might get
 beyond what a single file can be on ext3, right? Isn't that 2GB or so?

 That is strange, the output file could be bigger but not by that
 factor...if you don't mind, again could you paste a sample input file
 (maybe just some lines, to get an idea...)?



I'm attaching a small (100 line) data file out of TradeStation. Zipped
it's about 2K. It should expand to about 10K. When I run the command
to get 10 lines put together it works correctly and gives me a file
with 91 lines and about 100K in size. (I.e. - 10x on my disk.)

awk -v n=10 -f awkScript1.awk awkDataIn.csv awkDataOut.csv

No mangling of the first line - that must have been something earlier
I guess. Sorry for the confusion on that front.

One other item has come up as I start to play with this farther down
the tool chain. I want to use this data in either R or RapidMiner to
data mine for patterns. Both of those tools are easier to use if the
first line in the file has column titles. I had originally asked
TradeStation not to output the column titles but if I do then for the
first line of our new file I should actually copy the first line of
the input file N times. Something like

For i=1; read line, write N times, write \n

and then

for i=2 do what we're doing right now.

After I did that I could run it through cut and drop whatever columns
I need to drop, I think... ;-)

This is great help from you all. As someone who doesn't really program
or use the command line too much it's a big advantage. Thanks!

Cheers,
Mark


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awkScript1.awk
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Re: [gentoo-user] etc/conf.d/net format ?

2009-02-23 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 23 Feb, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:31:18 +0500
 Mike Kazantsev mike_kazant...@fraggod.net wrote:
 
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:14:28 +0100 (CET)
 Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 
  config_ppp0=ppp  # Runs /lib/rcscripts/net/pppd.sh
  link_ppp0='nas0' # The name of the RFC2684 bridge interface
 
 I've never used link_* syntax to specify dependencies, prehaps it has
 been obsoleted and not working properly?
 
 Try:
 rc_need_ppp0=nas0
 
 Certainly works for me.
 
 
 Sorry, I was too rash to send it away without looking at my actual net
 file. You should specify init.d script name in rc_need, not just some
 interface name, so it should look like this:
 
 rc_need_ppp0=net.nas0
 

Thanks but removing the link_* didn't help. Furthermore it's suggested
in the current  net.example file

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Damian
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Antonio Quartulli or...@ritirata.org wrote:
 Damian ha scritto:
 Hi,

 I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
 laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
 can find anything in google.

 I would like the brightness of the screen to be dimmed when the
 computer is idle for a certain amount of time. Do you have any clues
 where I can start digging?

 Thanks in advance,
 Damian.


 It depends on your video driver. First of all, which video card have you
 got?
Indeed. I have an Nvidia Quadro. Sorry for not specifying that.

My laptop is a Compaq 8510w.

 --
 Antonio Quartulli http://www.ritirata.org/ordex





Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Damian
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Günther
sam...@guenther-roetgen.de wrote:
 * Damian (damian.o...@gmail.com) [23.02.09 10:19]:
 Hi,

 I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
 laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
 can find anything in google.

 Did you enable the apropiate acpi drivers in the kernel? They depend on
 your laptop model...
Yes. But nothing seems to work.

I can do it by using nvidia settings, but the dimming is different
from the one you get when pressing Fn + the dimming keys on a text
console (btw, this is a weird behavior: I cannot do key-based dimming
when X is running).

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
Yep, I looked there, but the example don't apply to my laptop model :(

Thanks.



Re: [gentoo-user] etc/conf.d/net format ?

2009-02-23 Thread Stroller


On 23 Feb 2009, at 13:14, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

...
So to fix this, I'd like to do some 'sleep' after /usr/bin/br2684ctl  
has

executed.

Where is the syntax
br2684ctl_nas0= ...

explained and how can I insert some 'sleep'?


In my /etc/conf.d/net I have:

preup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} == br0 ]] ;
  then sleep 30 ;
fi
return 0
}

HTH,

Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Damian (damian.o...@gmail.com) [23.02.09 19:21]:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sebastian Günther
 sam...@guenther-roetgen.de wrote:
  * Damian (damian.o...@gmail.com) [23.02.09 10:19]:
  Hi,
 
  I cannot find the way to dim the brightness of the display on my
  laptop. It doesn't seem to be nothing useful in /proc/acpi neither I
  can find anything in google.
 
  Did you enable the apropiate acpi drivers in the kernel? They depend on
  your laptop model...
 Yes. But nothing seems to work.
 
acpi_os-name = Linux as kernel parameter might help.

and take a look if /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/ is present:
this is the kernel interface to set the brightness.

CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_LCD_SUPPORT

is the appropriate kernel config category to look at in recent kernels.

BTW which kernel are you using?

 I can do it by using nvidia settings, but the dimming is different
 from the one you get when pressing Fn + the dimming keys on a text
 console 
No doubt: the first dimms the videocard output, the latter the LCD.

(btw, this is a weird behavior: I cannot do key-based dimming
 when X is running).

I think that the Xserver catches this before reaching the hardware.

You can use xev to see which keycode is emmitted and then look in your 
desktop environment if this is match with some action.

 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml
 Yep, I looked there, but the example don't apply to my laptop model :(
 
Well. it should be somehow applicable, because it is rather generic.

 Thanks.
 

HTH
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:03:10 -0600, Dale wrote:

   
 Lets say I have a set named dk-kde, with the prefix Allen suggested, and
 I put kde-meta in that file.  Would that emerge all the KDE or just that
 one package?  I emerged kde-meta to install KDE so that is all there is
 in my world file right now.  I notice you have several kde packages in
 your list.
 

 Sets are a replacement for meta-packages, so your set would contain the
 packages you need. If it did contain kde-meta, then it would install all
 of KDE, because that is a dependency of kde-meta.


   


I tested this and noticed this.  If KDE is already installed, it only
emerges what is in the file.  Of course it would emerge everything if it
was a new install.  This is pretty cool tho.  I see a lot of
possibilities here.

I guess now I'm going to have to learn some of those other commands so
that I can get a list of dependencies and such but remove the stuff that
portage doesn't want in the file.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



[gentoo-user] Can emerge @live-rebuild only rebuild changed pkgs?

2009-02-23 Thread Paul Hartman
emerge @live-rebuild is great to rebuild the live cvs/svn/git/etc
packages, but often times there may have been no changes in that
pcackage (already at revision 1234). Is there a way to make it skip
rebuild of those? Since there's no point...

If you're using KDE-live or something large like that, I think it
could save hours of needless rebuilding.



Re: [gentoo-user] How to dim the display brightness

2009-02-23 Thread Damian
Hi Sebastian,

 acpi_os-name = Linux as kernel parameter might help.
Ok, I've changed the grub menu.lst file. After the reboot I will write
if something changes.


 and take a look if /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/ is present:
 this is the kernel interface to set the brightness.
I have it, but running
cho 2  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
has no effect in the display brightness.

 CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_LCD_SUPPORT

 is the appropriate kernel config category to look at in recent kernels.
Yes, that variable is set.

 BTW which kernel are you using?
2.6.27-r2

 No doubt: the first dimms the videocard output, the latter the LCD.
I didn't know the reasons for this missmatch, thanks a lot for this
brief but useful explanation.

 You can use xev to see which keycode is emmitted and then look in your
 desktop environment if this is match with some action.
In fact, Fn + dimming keys produces output. Now, to do something
useful, I need to know how to dim the light of the LCD.

 Well. it should be somehow applicable, because it is rather generic.
I don't know how to replace this line
echo level ${LEVEL}  /proc/acpi/ibm/brightness

I have a file
/proc/acpi/video/C14B/C160/brightness
whose contents look like
levels:  100 51 30 37 44 51 58 65 72 79 86 93 100
current: 72

I did some echoes to that file, but no luck so far :(



[gentoo-user] Oracle10g install on current gentoo

2009-02-23 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

I tried to install Oracle10g 10.2.0.1 on a gentoo box. Install ran
through until it tried to start the tnslistener. That would get stuck in an
endless loop it seems with tnslistener running at 100% CPU. strace telling
me it is calling times() endlessly.

Anybody got a clue what I am doing wrong?

Regards,

Konstantin
-- 
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Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185

Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - command line read *.csv create new file

2009-02-23 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Monday 23 February 2009, 17:05, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I'm attaching a small (100 line) data file out of TradeStation. Zipped
 it's about 2K. It should expand to about 10K. When I run the command
 to get 10 lines put together it works correctly and gives me a file
 with 91 lines and about 100K in size. (I.e. - 10x on my disk.)

 awk -v n=10 -f awkScript1.awk awkDataIn.csv awkDataOut.csv

 No mangling of the first line - that must have been something earlier
 I guess. Sorry for the confusion on that front.

 One other item has come up as I start to play with this farther down
 the tool chain. I want to use this data in either R or RapidMiner to
 data mine for patterns. Both of those tools are easier to use if the
 first line in the file has column titles. I had originally asked
 TradeStation not to output the column titles but if I do then for the
 first line of our new file I should actually copy the first line of
 the input file N times. Something like

 For i=1; read line, write N times, write \n

 and then

 for i=2 do what we're doing right now.

That is actually accomplished just by adding a bit of code:

BEGIN {FS=OFS=,}

NR==1{for(i=1;i=n;i++){printf %s%s, sep, $0;sep=OFS};print} # header
NR=2{
  r=$NF;NF--
  for(i=1;in;i++){
    s[i]=s[i+1]
    dt[i]=dt[i+1]
    if((NR=n+1)(i==1))printf %s%s,dt[1],OFS
    if(NR=n+1)printf %s%s,s[i],OFS
  }
  sep=dt[n]=;for(i=1;i=dropcol;i++){dt[n]=dt[n] sep $i;sep=OFS}
  sub(^([^,]*,){dropcol},)
  s[n]=$0
  if(NR=n+1)printf %s,%s\n, s[n],r
}

Note that no column is dropped from the header. If you need to do that, 
just tell us how you want to do that.



Re: [gentoo-user] Oracle10g install on current gentoo

2009-02-23 Thread kashani

Konstantinos Agouros wrote:

Hi,

I tried to install Oracle10g 10.2.0.1 on a gentoo box. Install ran
through until it tried to start the tnslistener. That would get stuck in an
endless loop it seems with tnslistener running at 100% CPU. strace telling
me it is calling times() endlessly.

Anybody got a clue what I am doing wrong?


Did you install all the compat packages it requires? I would use this 
site as a base for installing all the packages you will need on Gentoo.


http://www.puschitz.com/InstallingOracle10g.shtml

kashani



Re: [gentoo-user] Issue with e2fsprogs

2009-02-23 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:22:31 -0500, CJoeB wrote:

  * Package 'sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9' NOT merged due to file collisions.
  * If necessary, refer to your elog messages for the whole content of
 the
  * above message.  

e2fsprogs-1.40 included the libraries, it was split into two packages
from 1.41. That's why you are seeing collisions, because both e2fsprogs
and e2fsprogs-libs are want to install the libs. Unless you have some
strange masking in /etc/portage, unmerging all e2fsprogs* packages
followed by emerge system should get things straight.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Despite the cost of living it remains popular.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] - command line read *.csv create new file

2009-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu shr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote:
 On Monday 23 February 2009, 17:05, Mark Knecht wrote:

 I'm attaching a small (100 line) data file out of TradeStation. Zipped
 it's about 2K. It should expand to about 10K. When I run the command
 to get 10 lines put together it works correctly and gives me a file
 with 91 lines and about 100K in size. (I.e. - 10x on my disk.)

 awk -v n=10 -f awkScript1.awk awkDataIn.csv awkDataOut.csv

 No mangling of the first line - that must have been something earlier
 I guess. Sorry for the confusion on that front.

 One other item has come up as I start to play with this farther down
 the tool chain. I want to use this data in either R or RapidMiner to
 data mine for patterns. Both of those tools are easier to use if the
 first line in the file has column titles. I had originally asked
 TradeStation not to output the column titles but if I do then for the
 first line of our new file I should actually copy the first line of
 the input file N times. Something like

 For i=1; read line, write N times, write \n

 and then

 for i=2 do what we're doing right now.

 That is actually accomplished just by adding a bit of code:

 BEGIN {FS=OFS=,}

 NR==1{for(i=1;i=n;i++){printf %s%s, sep, $0;sep=OFS};print} # header
 NR=2{
   r=$NF;NF--
   for(i=1;in;i++){
 s[i]=s[i+1]
 dt[i]=dt[i+1]
 if((NR=n+1)(i==1))printf %s%s,dt[1],OFS
 if(NR=n+1)printf %s%s,s[i],OFS
   }
   sep=dt[n]=;for(i=1;i=dropcol;i++){dt[n]=dt[n] sep $i;sep=OFS}
   sub(^([^,]*,){dropcol},)
   s[n]=$0
   if(NR=n+1)printf %s,%s\n, s[n],r
 }

 Note that no column is dropped from the header. If you need to do that,
 just tell us how you want to do that.


thanks. that's a good add.

If I drop columns - and I do need to - then something like how cut
works would be good, but it needs to repeat across all the rows being
used. For instance, if I'm dropping columns 6  12 from a 20 column
wide data set, then I'm dropping 6  12 from all N lines. This is
where using cut after the line is built is difficult as I'm forced to
figure out a list like 6,12,26,32,46,52, etc. Easy to make a mistake
doing that. If I could say something like Drop 6  12 from all rows,
and 1  2 from all rows higher than the first that make up this new
line then that would be great. That's a lot to ask though.

D1,T1,A1,B1,C1,D1,
D2,T2,A2,B2,C2,D2,
D3,T3,A3,B3,C3,D3,
D4,T4,A4,B4,C4,D4,
D5,T5,A5,B5,C5,D5,

In the data above if I drop column A, then I drop it for all rows.
(For instance, A contains 0 and isn't necessary, etc.)  Assuming 3
wide I'd get

D1,T1,B1,C1,D1,B2,C2,D2,B3,C3,D3
D2,T2,B2,C2,D2,B3,C3,D3,B4,C4,D4
D3,T3,B3,C3,D3,B4,C4,D4,B5,C5,D5

Making that completely flexible - where I can drop 4 or 5 random
columns - is probably a bit too much work. On the other hand maybe
sending it to cut as part of the whole process, line by lone or
something, is more reasonable? I don't know.

I found a web site to study awk so I'm starting to see more or less
how your example works when I have the code in front of me. Creating
the code out of thin air might be a bit of a stretch for me at this
point though.

thanks for your help!

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Issue with e2fsprogs

2009-02-23 Thread CJoeB
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:22:31 -0500, CJoeB wrote:

   
  * Package 'sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.40.9' NOT merged due to file collisions.
  * If necessary, refer to your elog messages for the whole content of
 the
  * above message.  
 

 e2fsprogs-1.40 included the libraries, it was split into two packages
 from 1.41. That's why you are seeing collisions, because both e2fsprogs
 and e2fsprogs-libs are want to install the libs. Unless you have some
 strange masking in /etc/portage, unmerging all e2fsprogs* packages
 followed by emerge system should get things straight.
   

Thanks everyone!  :-)  Problem is solved.  And it was basically my
fault.  For some reason, I had masked sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.  Thanks
AllenJB for whacking me on the head and making me realize this!  :-) 
I got so caught up with the fact that I had removed e2fsprogs and was
getting collisions and was afraid I wouldn't be able to reboot my system
that I never thought to look.  I don't usually have too many problems
with Gentoo and updating my system, but when I do run into a snag, it's
always a lesson learned that I won't forget again.  Thanks again everyone!

Regards,

Colleen


-- 

Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org




[gentoo-user] Re: Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread James
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:


 Sets are a replacement for meta-packages, so your set would contain the
 packages you need. If it did contain kde-meta, then it would install all
 of KDE, because that is a dependency of kde-meta.


OK, color me dense, but, if we are assuming  there should be
a smooth (easy) transition from kde-meta to kde sets I'm 
missing something. The posted lists (sets) do not look anything
like the way kde-meta is organized.


Call it herd mentality, but I bet many of the current kde-meta
crowd would just love to have these sets defined for us
and we can choose which of these generic sets we want,
and then just build a set or 2 of our own. Then make a file
that lists those and all we have to do is emerge that file.
Poof done, kde-meta, simple fast and mostly like what other 
have, using gentoo defined sets for kde-4.2.x

Should we not have some standard, logical listing of
of the various kde packages, like the current categories 
for kde 3.5.x, only in set form? Sure folks could build there
own sets but if all you want is the old kde-meta (give or 
take a few application), in sets+kde.4.2.x form, there
should be some predefined sets for us?

That is to say, (more clearly I hope); when I go to the kde
button in 3.5.9, I get these categories:
Development
Entertainment
Games
Graphics
snip

So what aren't there pre-defined sets with this sort of grouping?
Thus the new kde-4.2.x would be a straight convert (except
for applications that are lost and/or gained) to ease the transition
to kde 4.2.x  using sets. Really, all I want is a similar setup
to kde-meta, via sets  Kde 4.2.x, without having to get
intimate with 200+ applications. and not having to 
define my own sets.


Is this already done?

Looking at the previous links and Neils postings, at first glance
it tells me I'm going to have to spend days learning about what all
of these individual packages do to have a somewhat similar setup
that kde-meta provided. I do not what to learn the details and names
of all of that stuff. I want to emerge a small number of sets
and POOF as close as I can get (with sets and kde4.2) to the
ole kde-meta?


Am I being unreasonable? Did I miss something?
(and yes, I'm lazy, mentally crippled, and slow
that's why I still do admin work)


James











[gentoo-user] Re: Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread ABCD
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James wrote:
 OK, color me dense, but, if we are assuming  there should be
 a smooth (easy) transition from kde-meta to kde sets I'm 
 missing something. The posted lists (sets) do not look anything
 like the way kde-meta is organized.
 
 
 Call it herd mentality, but I bet many of the current kde-meta
 crowd would just love to have these sets defined for us
 and we can choose which of these generic sets we want,
 and then just build a set or 2 of our own. Then make a file
 that lists those and all we have to do is emerge that file.
 Poof done, kde-meta, simple fast and mostly like what other 
 have, using gentoo defined sets for kde-4.2.x
 
 Should we not have some standard, logical listing of
 of the various kde packages, like the current categories 
 for kde 3.5.x, only in set form? Sure folks could build there
 own sets but if all you want is the old kde-meta (give or 
 take a few application), in sets+kde.4.2.x form, there
 should be some predefined sets for us?
 
 That is to say, (more clearly I hope); when I go to the kde
 button in 3.5.9, I get these categories:
 Development
 Entertainment
 Games
 Graphics
 snip
 
 So what aren't there pre-defined sets with this sort of grouping?
 Thus the new kde-4.2.x would be a straight convert (except
 for applications that are lost and/or gained) to ease the transition
 to kde 4.2.x  using sets. Really, all I want is a similar setup
 to kde-meta, via sets  Kde 4.2.x, without having to get
 intimate with 200+ applications. and not having to 
 define my own sets.
 
 
 Is this already done?
 
 Looking at the previous links and Neils postings, at first glance
 it tells me I'm going to have to spend days learning about what all
 of these individual packages do to have a somewhat similar setup
 that kde-meta provided. I do not what to learn the details and names
 of all of that stuff. I want to emerge a small number of sets
 and POOF as close as I can get (with sets and kde4.2) to the
 ole kde-meta?
 
 Am I being unreasonable? Did I miss something?
 (and yes, I'm lazy, mentally crippled, and slow
 that's why I still do admin work)

There are predefined sets in the kde-testing overlay, that correspond to
the upstream tarballs (and, therefore, to the kdefoo-meta packages).
Unfortunately, they cannot yet be distributed with the gentoo-x86 tree
(that's $PORTDIR, or /usr/portage, for you playing along at home).  I
don't remember the reasons given for that, but you can copy the sets
from that tree, and place them in your /etc/portage/sets/ directory, and
modify them at will - or create your own based on those sets.  Note that
you do not actually need that overlay installed to use the sets; all you
have to do is copy the sets from the overlay into your local configuration.

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[gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Hi,

I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
can't recall what it is.

Any clues?  I'm loosing my little mind over here.   :/

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Saphirus Sage
Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.

 Any clues?  I'm loosing my little mind over here.   :/

 Thanks

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

   
If you have gentoolkit emerged, the command is genlop -r package
name. Seriously, it was in the man for genlop, but it's cool, I like
being helpful, or at least thinking I am.



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Saphirus Sage wrote:
 Dale wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.

 Any clues?  I'm loosing my little mind over here.   :/

 Thanks

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

   
 
 If you have gentoolkit emerged, the command is genlop -r package
 name. Seriously, it was in the man for genlop, but it's cool, I like
 being helpful, or at least thinking I am.


   

That's the one.  I'm not going to tell how many times I used that and it
just plain escaped me.  My problem was that I couldn't remember the
command so I had no clue what man page to look at. 

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 06:54:51 Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.


qlop -s

part of portage-utils

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 24 February 2009 05:33:40 James wrote:
 Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:
  Sets are a replacement for meta-packages, so your set would contain the
  packages you need. If it did contain kde-meta, then it would install all
  of KDE, because that is a dependency of kde-meta.

 OK, color me dense, but, if we are assuming  there should be
 a smooth (easy) transition from kde-meta to kde sets I'm
 missing something. The posted lists (sets) do not look anything
 like the way kde-meta is organized.

The kde-testing overlay ships with at least 50 pre-defined sets, and in there 
you will find a set that maps to every -meta ebuild that we have been using 
for so long.

As to why there isn't such a thing with portage, I don't know. You would have 
to ask the kde ebuild maintainers. But if you would like to have this 
collection of sets and haven't added the overlay, I'd happily send you a 
tarball of all the kde sets.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Dale (rdalek1...@gmail.com) [24.02.09 05:56]:
 Hi,
 
 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.
 
 Any clues?  I'm loosing my little mind over here.   :/

qlop -s

man q is not that hard to remember

 
 Thanks
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-) 
 

HTH
Sebastian

-- 
  Religion ist das Opium des Volkes.   Karl Marx

 s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de


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Re: [gentoo-user] MonetBD on portage?

2009-02-23 Thread Dirk Uys
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:36 AM, laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote:

 Apparently monetdb maintainer requested it to be removed from Portage.
 You can still access the prior ebuilds at:

 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-db/monetdb/?hideattic=0

 Good luck
 Paul

The maintainer of the ebuild or the maintainer of the monetDB project?

Regards
Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Graham Murray
ABCD en.a...@gmail.com writes:

 Unfortunately, they cannot yet be distributed with the gentoo-x86 tree
 (that's $PORTDIR, or /usr/portage, for you playing along at home).  I
 don't remember the reasons given for that,

I think that it is because the versions of portage (2.2_rcx) which
support sets are still masked. 



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 February 2009 06:54:51 Dale wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.

 

 qlop -s

 part of portage-utils

   

That is more like it.  The other command works to but that is the one I
remember using.  I'm adding that to my frequently used command list
before I forget again.  lol

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Command for sync history

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Sebastian Günther wrote:
 * Dale (rdalek1...@gmail.com) [24.02.09 05:56]:
   
 Hi,

 I read and even used this command several times but I can't remember
 what it is now.  I searched the forums and even searched through the
 30,000 emails from this list and can't find it.  I did search through
 the emails, not read them all.  I even did a equery files gentoolkit and
 portage, no bells went off there either.  Anyway, there is a command
 that you put -s after and it lists the sync date and times.  I just
 can't recall what it is.

 Any clues?  I'm loosing my little mind over here.   :/
 

 qlop -s

 man q is not that hard to remember

   
 Thanks

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

 

 HTH
 Sebastian

   

It's not IF you remember it.  I was thinking genlop at first then eix
but q never even crossed my mind. 

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage and sets

2009-02-23 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Tuesday 24 February 2009 05:33:40 James wrote:
   
 Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:
 
 Sets are a replacement for meta-packages, so your set would contain the
 packages you need. If it did contain kde-meta, then it would install all
 of KDE, because that is a dependency of kde-meta.
   
 OK, color me dense, but, if we are assuming  there should be
 a smooth (easy) transition from kde-meta to kde sets I'm
 missing something. The posted lists (sets) do not look anything
 like the way kde-meta is organized.
 

 The kde-testing overlay ships with at least 50 pre-defined sets, and in there 
 you will find a set that maps to every -meta ebuild that we have been using 
 for so long.

 As to why there isn't such a thing with portage, I don't know. You would have 
 to ask the kde ebuild maintainers. But if you would like to have this 
 collection of sets and haven't added the overlay, I'd happily send you a 
 tarball of all the kde sets.


   


If it's not huge or anything, I'll take a look at it.  Dial-up
remember?  Life sucks out here in the sticks.  It's quiet out here tho.

Oh, off list of course.

Dale

:-)  :-)