Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:14:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: (II) LoadModule: i810 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: i810 (EE) Failed to load module i810 (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. SNIP OK, that's pretty serious. Is the i810 module

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 01:48:54 Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 22:21 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: There is nothing wrong with that xorg.conf file, it works just fine. Tip: when requiring assistance of this nature, you absolutely have to supply the error messages from the

Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update add hald default or boot?

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:43:47 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for the responses guys. I've always had it at default also. I was just wondering. The elog message states it should be in default. Now, does hald need dbus? Require dbus? Interesting. I have dbus installed but it's not running

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Roy Wright
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get Amarok 2... Personally the change

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
090414 Roy Wright wrote: the change over to dolphin is disappointing. So far I've been able to mostly ignore it and use konqueror with one major exception, fish and sftp no longer work in konqueror. Only sftp works in dolphin. In the past (3.x), I always found fish bulletproof, while sftp

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. Glad I'm not the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. It's JavaScript is horribly broken

[gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi all, As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? Thank a lot, cheers, -- Jacques

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Rusty on MySQL specifics

2009-04-14 Thread Mick
On Monday 13 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 13 April 2009 23:42:08 kashani wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Not at all. What you are seeing when pressing the up arrow is not commands stored by MySQl, but commands stored by your shell. It's complex to explain, so bear with me:

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:06:03 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: On Monday 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC with ATI Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now? [...] I'm out of ideas now. Do you have any advice? A friend also has trouble with her Radeon X1550 card. It

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2009/4/14 Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr: As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool  ? emerge --depclean --pretend --verbose [atom] [1] [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/faq.xml --

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. It's JavaScript is horribly broken and using flash is just too painful to contemplate.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where to put own keyboard variants

2009-04-14 Thread Sebastian Dörner
walt wrote: Are you saying you edited that file by hand? If so, why not just rename it sebastian-us and leave it where it is. That way it nill be safe from future updates. Yes I edited the file by hand. Thanks for tip, that will certainly work. I was only used to editing files in /etc or

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Daniel Pielmeier a gentiment tapote: 2009/4/14 Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr: As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? emerge --depclean --pretend --verbose [atom] [1] [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Stroller
On 13 Apr 2009, at 23:17, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Something about KDE-4 and Qt4 grabbed my attention - maybe it's just the scope and possibilities of it all, and the sheer size of brass balls it takes to be the first to go that route with a mainstream product. I admire guts and vision

Re: [gentoo-user] gecko-mediaplayer inconsistent dependencies

2009-04-14 Thread Stroller
On 13 Apr 2009, at 21:31, Grant wrote: The gecko-mediaplayer ebuild RDEPEND is as follows: RDEPEND=dev-libs/dbus-glib =media-video/gnome-mplayer-0.6.2 || ( =net-libs/xulrunner-1.8* =www-client/mozilla-firefox-2* =www-client/seamonkey-1* www-client/epiphany ) I'm not

[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ?

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Thanasis schrieb: Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Saphirus Sage
Justin wrote: Thanasis schrieb: Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86 I am certain that is thoroughly covered in the

[gentoo-user] Re: dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jacques Montier wrote: Daniel Pielmeier a gentiment tapote: 2009/4/14 Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr: As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ?

Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Justin
Jacques Montier schrieb: Hi all, As udept seems no longer maintened (hard masked), do you know a good dependencies (and reverse) command line package tool ? Thank a lot, cheers, -- Jacques http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/misc/rindex/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
on 04/14/2009 04:04 PM Justin wrote the following: Thanasis schrieb: Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28* ~x86 I was

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Thanasis
on 04/14/2009 04:08 PM Saphirus Sage wrote the following: Justin wrote: Thanasis schrieb: Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ?

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 17:14 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP (II) LoadModule: i810 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: i810 (EE) Failed to load module i810 (module does not exist, 0)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
Hello, about the *mandatory* it was a bad expression, I should have said : 'make two new daemons mandatory IF you want to follow the modern-move' :) Of course the 'hal' useflag is such a gentoo nice thing ! I did the xorg+hal switch, but I forgot that hald make use of dbus (I would dreamed about

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 14:50:37 Stroller wrote: I find Exposé immensely useful on my Mac and I love the genie effect when maximising minimising windows; I can imagine a cool animation when using virtual desktops on Linux. But clearly you're talking about something more than that,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:14:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: (II) LoadModule: i810 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: i810 (EE) Failed to load module i810 (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop Maybe I just don't get it but all of the descriptions of this stuff flies way over my head. Admittedly, as soon as I see the word social being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop Maybe I just don't get it but all of the descriptions of this stuff flies way over my head.

[gentoo-user] WEP wicd error

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all, every time I try to start my wireless with wicd, I have to set the WEP encripton key by hand (su - ; iwconfig ) then wicd is able to connect to the AP. I have checked all network params, but I see no error in conf... Use encyptrion WEP (Passphrase) and the password. I only see this

[gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
Hi all, I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 amparo ~ # but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and udev hang my start for a minute... how may I disable udev from starting

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
Arnau Bria a gentiment tapote: Hi all, I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 amparo ~ # but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and udev hang my start for a minute... how

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread YoYo siska
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 05:27:53PM +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: Hi all, I removed my net.eth0 service from default/boot level: amparo ~ # rc-update show|grep eth0 amparo ~ # but now, udev-postmount tries to start it. I don't want it cause I don't plug any wire to my laptop, and udev hang

[gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
Hi! amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly need to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, use these lines in package.mask: =virtual/mysql-5.0 =dev-db/mysql-5.0 Is there a workaround to resolve the issue?

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:36:40 +0200 Jacques Montier wrote: In /etc/conf.d/rc, you can add the line : RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.eth0 that worked! many thanks. -- Jacques Arnau

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Arnau Bria
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:41:30 +0200 YoYo siska wrote: look at the rc_hotplug option in /etc/rc.conf something like rc_hotplug=!net.eth0 should work for you... thanks, Jacques already pointed that. the other option is, if you emerge ifplugd, the net.eth0 service will use ifplugd to see if

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:43 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:14:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: (II) LoadModule: i810 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module i810 (II) UnloadModule: i810 (EE)

Re: [gentoo-user] WEP wicd error

2009-04-14 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Hi all, every time I try to start my wireless with wicd, I have to set the WEP encripton key by hand (su - ; iwconfig ) then wicd is able to connect to the AP. I have checked all network params, but I see no error

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dependencies tool

2009-04-14 Thread Jacques Montier
ABCD a gentiment tapote: The difference is that nothing actually depends on xfce-base/xfce4 - the packages that were listed depend on packages that have names that *start with* xfce-base/xfce4 (such as xfce-base/xfce4-panel). The --depclean output says that you have no packages currently

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
I unmerged all the kde-base/...-4.2.1 pkgs preparatory to remerging them with USE=kdeprefix it hit me: why am I wasting time on this rubbish ? KDE 4.2.1 is not -- as someone bluntly pointed out -- a successor to 3.5 : it's a whole new concept, not yet clear even in the minds of its developers.

[gentoo-user] cpu TIME question in ps command

2009-04-14 Thread Zhengquan Zhang
Dear gentoo community: I have got a old gentoo server Linux *** 2.4.28-gentoo-r6 #1 Fri Feb 18 08:08:30 CST 2005 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz GNU/Linux I am confused by a ps command problem. I used 'ps -F -u root --sort bsdtime' to sort root processes by cumulative cpu time and got

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I unmerged all the kde-base/...-4.2.1 pkgs preparatory to remerging them with USE=kdeprefix it hit me: why am I wasting time on this rubbish ? KDE 4.2.1 is not -- as someone bluntly pointed out -- a successor to 3.5 :

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's a few keywords to start a search with - nepomuk, sematic desktop

[gentoo-user] Kolourpaint (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2) crashes

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. The Kde Crash Manager says: Ein schwerer Fehler ist aufgetreten The application

[gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. The Kde Crash Manager says: Ein schwerer Fehler ist aufgetreten The application

Re: [gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 17:42:02 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly need to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, use these lines in package.mask: =virtual/mysql-5.0 =dev-db/mysql-5.0 Is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:49:17 Jochen Becker wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. I'm having a sort-of similar problem wwith kontact and kmail after a kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 19:49:17 schrieb Jochen Becker: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. You don't want to keep sending this every 30 mins now, do you? Bye... Dirk

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 19:49:17 schrieb Jochen Becker: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. You don't want to keep sending this every 30 mins now, do you? Bye... Dirk He most likely thought it didn't make it to the list since

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:09:38 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's a few

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Philip Webb said: I cb content with Fluxbox, if KDE 3.5 disappears one day, /me hugs fluxbox Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Mark Knecht said: While not a KDE user I echo your thoughts. I'm personally a bit worried about Gentoo overlords sort of pushing this hald thing with reasons like 'Gnome's automounting depends on it'. If I wanted automounting that's OK, but what if I don't? Eventually someone will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:09:38 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: Having said that, hal is exactly the kind of thing I would expect Gentoo users to flock to: its powerful, flexible, extensible, configurable, and it's the new cutting-edge stuff from the upstream vendors. Before it went offline, the Gentoo wiki was easily

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 21:41:49 Paul Hartman wrote: Okay, that makes sense and if it were able to gather all of that metadata without me having to enter it maybe it could even be useful... as long as it never queries the internet for that metadata. My post got too long and I subconsciously

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.keywords syntax

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:01:23 +0300, Thanasis wrote: Suppose I want to set the series of kernel sources: gentoo-sources-2.6.28* with the ~x86 keyword. What should I write in /etc/portage/package.keywords ? ~sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.28 ~x86 or, if you are running x86,

[gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session msoulier

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. unmerge and see which programs fail :)

Re: [gentoo-user] amarok2 and mysql

2009-04-14 Thread Andrew Gaydenko
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 21:53:14 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 17:42:02 Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Hi! amarok 2.x insists on mysql 5.x [embedded,-minimal]. OTOH, I strongly need to have (not embedded) mysql 4.1.x to be working, and, as a result, use these lines in

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: unmerge and see which programs fail :) That scares me. :) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: unmerge and see which programs fail :) That scares me. :) Do you use KDE? I think dbus is required.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Mestelan
2009/4/14 Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca: I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. Does `pstree` help ? Cheers.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joshua D Doll
Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joachim Bartosik
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:42, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. Hmmm maybe

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Joachim Bartosik
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:54, Joachim Bartosik jbarto...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 22:42, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to

Re: [gentoo-user] net.eth0 started by udev-postmount

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:27:53 +0200, Arnau Bria wrote: I remember in the past I had something that checked is the wire was pluged, and if so, it started my network... anyone could help me to remember that program? Install ifplugd, but don't try to run it. The baselayout scripts will

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread jochen becker
Yes I can verify that colourpaint is truly dying without leaving any process. Nor Top neither ps shows anything which points to kolourpaint or parts of it. 2009/4/14 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com On Tuesday 14 April 2009 19:49:17 Jochen Becker wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : goodbye good riddance

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote: On 14/04/09 Mark Knecht said: While not a KDE user I echo your thoughts. I'm personally a bit worried about Gentoo overlords sort of pushing this hald thing with reasons like 'Gnome's automounting depends on

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:58:18 -0400 schrieb Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca: On 13/04/09 Mike Edenfield said: [...] Also, just for the record, hal isn't by any stretch of the imagination a new daemon. Its been a USE option for Gentoo's gnome-vfs package since Gnome 2.8,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread gibboris
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 03:58:18PM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) +1 (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) HAL was responsible for opening almost 2000 files. It will read various XML

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. I have never run that program. I just tried it in an NX

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: I don't like xorg-server 1.5.3

2009-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:30:19 +0200, gibbo...@gmail.com wrote: Real men manage their own /etc/fstab. ;-) +1 Hal is about a lot more than mounting memory sticks. (I just noticed that hal creates /media but didn't added it to my fstab, maybe for the 0.5.12 ? :)) Hal doesn't create the

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman schrieb: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in

[gentoo-user] [OT] the matrix on windows

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
Ok, this is funny as hell... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 ...to me anyway... :) Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Joshua D Doll said: Since it appears you have equery installed you can do: equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib That should list all the packages requiring dbus. msoul...@anton:~$ equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib [ Searching for packages depending on sys-apps/dbus-glib... ] !!!

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Paul Hartman said: Do you use KDE? I think dbus is required. Nope. -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Joachim Bartosik said: Or if you don't like it ps ax -o ppid,cmd|grep hal should give you pid of hals parent process. It's daemonized. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts, but the mouse does not move, and nothing else happens. I assume you re-emerged xorg after you

Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 23:50:22 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 14/04/09 Joshua D Doll said: Since it appears you have equery installed you can do: equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib That should list all the packages requiring dbus. msoul...@anton:~$ equery depends sys-apps/dbus-glib [

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman schrieb: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a

Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon woes

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: I already have the hal USE flag set. I added evdev to INPUT_DEVICES, and tried again with and without existing xorg.conf. No real change - X starts, but the mouse does not

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in a crash again. Is this bug about the same thing?

Re: [gentoo-user] Kolourpaint segaults (KDE 4.2.1 4.2.2)

2009-04-14 Thread Jochen Becker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Hartman schrieb: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jochen Becker nighty...@googlemail.com wrote: kolourpaint allways crashes if I try to start it. When I add a new User Profile Kolourpaint will run only one time. The Second start results in

[gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the previous version of xorg-server but so far I Cannot figure out what to remove with emerge -C and

[gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread ABCD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael P. Soulier wrote: Hi, I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep msoulier 9221 1 0 Apr12 ?00:00:00

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:14 PM, ABCD en.a...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus usesme`, and are any of the listed services started? - -- ABCD Didn't know about those two commands. Interesting. Thanks! dragonfly ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 08:59 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Micheal, OK, now your machine and my wife's machine are probably in about the exact same situation. Can you clarify exactly *when* mythfrontend segfaults for you? On my wife's machine the GUI comes up fine, and I can look at all the

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The GUI doesn't even come up.  Everything just stops before the gui launches.  So you think it might be the intel driver?  Do you think it's safe to try a ~ version?  I've heard that using bad drivers/bad

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the previous version of xorg-server but so far I Cannot figure out what to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The GUI doesn't even come up. Everything just stops before the gui launches. So you think it might be the intel driver? Do you think it's safe to

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 16:36 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The GUI doesn't even come up. Everything just stops before the gui launches. So you think it might be the intel driver? Do you think it's safe to

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the machine back to the previous

Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5 mythfrontend[31548]: segfault at 6f732e4c ip 6f732e4c sp bfe0b09c error 4 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I'm having a terrible time figuring this out. xorg-server-1.5 has totally broken my wife's machine in terms of the one thing she wants for fun which is MythTV. I need to take the

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote: I'm not better but I did the same thing on my rig. I hope this will help. # xorg-server masking # =x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r4 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.3.2 =x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.1.3

Re: [gentoo-user] What do I mask to go back to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r6

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 21:36 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 19:02 -0500, Dale wrote: I'm not better but I did the same thing on my rig. I hope this will help. # xorg-server masking # =x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r4

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