Re: [gentoo-user] Battery knock out

2009-04-17 Thread W.Kenworthy
Yes, try equery f app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools to find all the files
involved - its quite extensive.

BillK




On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 06:54 +0100, Mick wrote:
 laptop-mode-tools




Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 17 April 2009 07:48:49 Thomas Chef wrote:
 A few questions:
 - When I recompile the kernel and replace an existingly (in lilo)
 configured kernel, do I have to rerun lilo ? 

Yes, you must rerun lilo from a working installation. lilo does not understand 
filesystems, so rerunning lilo tells the boot loader the exact location of the 
kernel image on disk (in terms of block numbers). This changes with every 
recompile.

grub OTOH, does understand filesystems and you can point it at a kernel image 
file and it works. grub is the preferred choice for most distros for this 
reason. Also, you can select the file image and edit options to use at boot 
time

 - Neil: How have you
 configured your frambuffer support in lilo/grub ? The handbook is some what
 confusing in this matter I think ? 

Kernel documentation is extremely confusing in this regard :-)

It normally involves a vga= element in your boot options
Check kernel source/Documentation/fb/* for more info

 - How much do I earn in speed by
 optimising and removing unneeded options in the kernel ? Or is it just
 kernel-size ?

You earn absolutely no speed improvements whatsoever. That would be like 
uninstalling Opera and expecting Firefox to go fast.

What you gain is kernel size, compilation speed (can make a big difference on 
Gentoo) and some sanity in /lib/modules - you don't actually need 1000 modules 
there when you only use 10. Building everything in a generic kernel is useful 
for binary distros like Ubuntu, that have to support everything their users 
might have but the devs cannot know in advance what that is. So they have 
complex auto-detect systems that run at startup and load the correct drivers. 
You DO know what you have, so your life is made much easier by simply building 
only what you will need.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
 and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
 what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
 tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
 files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
 Basically, the only difference is the compiler.

File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I don't eat snails. I prefer fast food.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:48:49 +0200, Thomas Chef wrote:

 - When I recompile the kernel and replace an existingly (in lilo)
 configured kernel, do I have to rerun lilo ?

Yes, and after confusing yourself a couple of times because you forgot to
do so, you'll probably switch to GRUB.

 - Neil: How have you configured your frambuffer support in lilo/grub ?
 The handbook is some what confusing in this matter I think ?

I don't. I actually like to see all those little green oks running upthe
screen, a splash screen just hides problems.

 - How much do I earn in speed by optimising and removing unneeded
 options in the kernel ? Or is it just kernel-size ?

It's really just kernel size, which affects loading time memory usage.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If it was easy, the hardware people would take care of it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-17 Thread Florian Philipp
Thomas Chef schrieb:
[...]
 But there is a lot of work left before it's complete:
 * APCI don't work (powerbutton)

Try acpid. It should have a default entry doing a shutdown when you
press the power button.

[...]
 * Mouse-support (maybe this comes with the framebuffer, as I can see it
 detects the mouse)

Install gpm and start it (/etc/init.d/gpm start)




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Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

2009-04-17 Thread Leon Feng
2009/4/17 Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.au:


 
 From: Francisco Rivas [mailto:taken...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 7:11 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dell laptop install fail

 Hi, What Dell Laptop do you have?. because I tried to install Gentoo amd64
 in a E4300 and it fails, did not recognize the ethernet and some problems
 install packages.


 Its a Studio 1737. I found the old 2.6.19 kerneled Knoppix didnt pick up the
 hardware properly (eg didnt autoload tg3 for the ethernet, many unknown
 devices in dmesg), but 2.6.27 i'm using now seems fine so far. So make sure
 you use the latest kernel you can, and enable the Dell specific kernel
 options.

Most of the problems are related to ACPI.
For old kernel, acpi=off or pci=bios kernel boot option may solve them.



Re: [gentoo-user] Mythfrontend segfaults [SOLVED]

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

Michael,
   The second line of the upgrade guide says:

X now no longer forces a double hidden build of media-libs/mesa. Mesa
now builds the software renderer (swrast) and whatever hardware driver
you've chosen with the VIDEO_CARDS variable.

   Seems to me you're saying the new ebuild didn't build what you
needed from mesa so I'd suggest filing a bug report on that one.

   Unfortunately for me this hasn't solved the problem. After
rebuilding mesa I did, 1 time out of 4 tries, manage to watch Live TV,
but that event had bad video and as soon as I tried to change the
channel X crashed again.

   From dmesg I see the following video related things. The last two
lines are clearly errors. Everytime I try watching Live TV in Myth,
after the crash I have two more of these in dmesg:

Linux agpgart interface v0.103
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 865 Chipset
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 16252K stolen memory
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xf000
SNIP
SNIP
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
SNIP
[drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20060119 on minor 0
SNIP

[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5

   One Google thread I read says this is the X driver looking for gem
support in my kernel. supposedly it's nothing to worry about but I
never had these messages before the xorg-server upgrade. Possibly each
two lines like this is just the driver starting back up again after
the crash. Don't know...

   Unfortunately our machine here is still unusable...

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] My USB camera no longer works.

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:12:16 -0500, Dale wrote:

   
 I was using gcc 4.3 but switched back to gcc 4.1.  I'm not a developer
 and I don't feel right about filing a bug since I can't really tell them
 what is broke but something is wrong somewhere.  I have not syncd my
 tree and it was a reinstall of the same version of packages.  No config
 files were updated or listed that needs to be updated either. 
 Basically, the only difference is the compiler.
 

 File a bug. It's like going to the doctor, you don't have to know what's
 wrong, just be able to describe the symptoms.


   

I'm not sure what to even put.  I do believe that gcc is causing
problems as far as the code it produces but I have no idea what could
cause it. 

I also have not changed my make.conf file.  I only change it when they
add some new device or something like that.  I think the last change I
made was to add kdeprefix.  I can't see how it could be anything but gcc
but have no clue how it could be either.  Looks like I wouldn't be the
only person to have this issue.

I did notice that I can now compile a kernel.  I have not had any errors
doing that with the old gcc.  Maybe, just maybe I can upgrade to 2.6.29 now.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 3200 woes [solved, sort of]

2009-04-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:

 On Montag 13 April 2009, Alex Schuster wrote:

  I need your help, because I just cannot get X to run on my new PC
  with ATI Radeon HD 3200 on-board graphics. What now?
[...]

 a) the drivers you tried are acient

All newer ones did not compile. I think. I tried so many combinations of 
kernels and drivers now, I do not remember everything. I think they did 
not compile, but that was due to a linking error with libGL. I found a 
bug-report stating that remerging mesa would help, and it did. Still no 
better results when running those drivers.
With newer kernels, I got other compile errors at higher versions of the 
drivers. 

 b) the drivers have nothing to do with input.
 c) emerge input drivers and set up xorg.conf accordingly

I don't understand. I have INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse 
in /etc/make.conf, and x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard and 
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse were emerged automatically.
About xorg.conf: I did this a lot of times in my life, either by creating 
it by hand, or adapting the xorg.conf.example, or via startx -configure. 
It worked most of the times. Now, I also used ati-config --initial, I 
copied over a working xorg.conf from Knoppix 5.3, and, after using evdev, 
I tried completely without it. Nothing worked. Sometimes X just did not 
start, but most of the times it did, but did not respond to mouse 
movement or Ctrl-Alt-Fn keyboard input.

 d) if you want help, post information like Xorg.0.log, xorg.conf,
 versions of packages used, etc.

Some of the logs are here:
http://wonkology.org/~wonko/tmp/radeonlogs/

I tried about every ati-driver not hard-masked with tuxonice kernels 
2.6.24-r9, 2.6.28-r3 and 2.6.29, and some with vanilla 2.6.27.12. I 
rmmoded the fglrx driver between the emerges, so the updated one would be 
loaded. I also tried radeon, radeonhd and vesa. Especially vesa should 
not make any trouble, I think, so I guess it's not a problem related to 
the ati-drivers, but to input drivers or something.


But I finally got it to work, by downgrading xorg-server to 1.3. It took 
me a while, messing a lot in the /etc/portage/ directory, because I got 
slot conflicts if not when trying to update @world. When this was done, I 
could remove most of the changes I made. Now I only need this in 
package.mask:
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.4
=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552
=x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4

And this in package.unmask:
=x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.471.3

I have a working X now, at least with 2.6.24-tuxonice-r9 - with 
linux-2.6.28-tuxonice-r3 I could not compile ati-drivers-8.471.3, and all 
never versions of ati-drivers want xorg-server-1.5. Which is bad, because 
8.471.3 will be removed soon from portage due to spring cleaning.

Anyway, I will deal with this later. I'm eager to try KDE 4 for the first 
time now... let's see what will happen. (Apart from KDM not starting, but 
that was due to dbus not running.)

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?

2009-04-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Daniel Troeder writes:

 On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:16 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  On Sunday 05 April 2009 21:45:16 Daniel Troeder wrote:
   When updates hit the portage tree, that are known to cause problems
   to lots of people - why not tell that directly after the --sync?
 
  Unfortunate timing here - within 24 hours the X11 upgrade included
  exactly this feature by way of eselect news!

 Oh yes - that's great :)

Indeed!

 I think it was triggered when I ran emerge -pvuND world after
 --sync.

 Unfortunately I had other things on my mind at that time, so I can't
 remember well.
 * Is there a way to reproduce the event?
 * Where can I find old news? With eselect news read all I get
 nothing. Did I maybe purge it?... that brings me back to my first
 question :)

eselect news list shows all news, including a section with already read 
news. eselect news read 2009-04-06-x_server-1_5 then displays it.

Wonko



[gentoo-user] how to stop the mailing list?

2009-04-17 Thread Norman Hakim

Hi all,

i would like to unsubscribe from mailing list. how to unsubscribe?

Thank you

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 





  



Re: [gentoo-user] how to stop the mailing list?

2009-04-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 19:23:30 schrieb Norman Hakim:

 i would like to unsubscribe from mailing list. how to unsubscribe?

Unsubscribe address is in the headers of each mail you get.

HTH...

Dirk



Re: [gentoo-user] how to stop the mailing list?

2009-04-17 Thread Tomáš Krasničan

To unsubscribe send a message to:

gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org

And for help send a message to:

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Norman Hakim wrote:

Hi all,

i would like to unsubscribe from mailing list. how to unsubscribe?

Thank you

NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 






  





Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel fails to boot on Via Epia

2009-04-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 08:42:42 schrieb Alan McKinnon:

 grub OTOH, does understand filesystems and you can point it at a kernel
 image file and it works. grub is the preferred choice for most distros for
 this reason. Also, you can select the file image and edit options to use at
 boot time

Don't forget to mentioned that it's not needed to run grub every time the 
kernel is updated, as is the case with lilo.

Bye...

Dirk



[gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo/GMail/download to Evolution

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Sorry for being a bit off topic here but it's for a good causee.
Thanks in advance,

   I manage a Gentoo machine for my dad who is in his 80's now. He's
not the least bit Linux literate but likes Gnome and has used Gentoo
as a user only for about 5-6 years now.

   He has just started switching from Time-Warner's Roadrunner cable
modem service to Verizon's FIOS. His new link is up and his speed is
very nice. (20Mb/S downlaod, 5Mb/S upload using Speakeasy.net to
test.)  The issue he is running into is that Roadrunner's SMTP server
is not allowing him to send email, presumably because he's not on one
of their IP address.

   Anyway, he's thinking I need to convert him over to a Verizon email
address but I was thinking that if he could continue using Evolution
but send and receive through GMail it would be a better long term
solution.

   Is this a good idea and more importantly is this possible? What
sort of issues will I have managing this for him.

Thanks,
Mark



[gentoo-user] liveusb not working

2009-04-17 Thread Valmor de Almeida


Hello,

I followed all the steps in

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml

and created a liveusb on a memory stick; instead of the image 
livecd-i686-installer-2007.0.iso, I used the more recent 2008. When 
trying to boot from the liveusb I get: No operating system found. Do I 
have to use 2007? are there other steps needed to be taken? Thought I 
would ask before trying the directions again.


Thanks,

--
Valmor



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo/GMail/download to Evolution

2009-04-17 Thread James Stull
This is actually pretty easy since gmail accepts both IMAP and POP3 access.
Just set up an account for him, go into the settings and enable pop or imap
then configure evolution.

For more information just google gmail imap/pop.

You can also use ssmtp to send email through your or his gmail account so
you could have his desktop send you his log files to keep track of security
and any errors.


On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
   Sorry for being a bit off topic here but it's for a good causee.
 Thanks in advance,

   I manage a Gentoo machine for my dad who is in his 80's now. He's
 not the least bit Linux literate but likes Gnome and has used Gentoo
 as a user only for about 5-6 years now.

   He has just started switching from Time-Warner's Roadrunner cable
 modem service to Verizon's FIOS. His new link is up and his speed is
 very nice. (20Mb/S downlaod, 5Mb/S upload using Speakeasy.net to
 test.)  The issue he is running into is that Roadrunner's SMTP server
 is not allowing him to send email, presumably because he's not on one
 of their IP address.

   Anyway, he's thinking I need to convert him over to a Verizon email
 address but I was thinking that if he could continue using Evolution
 but send and receive through GMail it would be a better long term
 solution.

   Is this a good idea and more importantly is this possible? What
 sort of issues will I have managing this for him.

 Thanks,
 Mark




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Gentoo/GMail/download to Evolution

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
   He has just started switching from Time-Warner's Roadrunner cable
 modem service to Verizon's FIOS. His new link is up and his speed is
 very nice. (20Mb/S downlaod, 5Mb/S upload using Speakeasy.net to
 test.)  The issue he is running into is that Roadrunner's SMTP server
 is not allowing him to send email, presumably because he's not on one
 of their IP address.

It could also be Verizon blocking you from connecting to other SMTP
servers, to prevent spam. You very well may be able to sent RR email
through Verizon's server. You also may be able to connect on
non-standard ports, or have Verizon lift the blocking for your account
(if in fact they are blocking it). I've never dealt with either of
those companies, but I know Southwestern Bell (later named SBC, later
named ATT) DSL used to block SMTP and it was fairly painless to call
them and have the block removed.

   Anyway, he's thinking I need to convert him over to a Verizon email
 address but I was thinking that if he could continue using Evolution
 but send and receive through GMail it would be a better long term
 solution.

I think it is good advice to everyone to avoid using ISP e-mail
accounts. I learned the hard way when my ISP went out of business
overnight, try changing your e-mail address on sites when you don't
have access to the old address anymore to confirm that change. It's
almost impossible. Plus, people are afraid to change ISPs if they are
going to lose the address that all of their family, friends,
colleagues know them by. So I think the gmail idea sounds like a good
one (and you can set it to fetch his roadrunner/verizon mail, too).

   Is this a good idea and more importantly is this possible? What
 sort of issues will I have managing this for him.

Assuming he doesn't have any exotic e-mail scripts or folder structure
going on, I would use Gmail with IMAP, then he'll be able to access
his email at home and have the ability to check it via the web in case
he's ever out and about and needs access.



Re: [gentoo-user] liveusb not working

2009-04-17 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:43:56 PM, Valmor wrote:


 Hello,

 I followed all the steps in

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml

 and created a liveusb on a memory stick; instead of the image 
 livecd-i686-installer-2007.0.iso, I used the more recent 2008. When 
 trying to boot from the liveusb I get: No operating system found. Do I
 have to use 2007? are there other steps needed to be taken? Thought I 
 would ask before trying the directions again.

 Thanks,

I recently created LiveUSB stick with Gentoo follow instructions in
the link above and using 
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090401/install-x86-minimal-20090401.iso
ISO. It works nicely.


-- 
Sergey




Re: [gentoo-user] liveusb not working

2009-04-17 Thread Valmor de Almeida

Sergey A. Kobzar wrote:



I recently created LiveUSB stick with Gentoo follow instructions in
the link above and using 
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090401/install-x86-minimal-20090401.iso
ISO. It works nicely.




Right; the minimal iso. Will give it a try later.

BTW, I tried the whole thing again following the doc (using the livecd 
iso) and got:


Missing operating system
Operating system not found


Thanks,

--
Valmor



[gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

Does anybody have any links, instructions, information etc. on how to burn HD 
video MPEG4 to DVD?
I want to be able to play HD on TV and I don't want to reduce the quality.

Do I need Blue-Ray dvd recorder to be able to play HD recording? 
Can standard DVD play HD mpeg4 files? 
I have new camera that records HD (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files are below 3GB; is there a way to burn them into standard DVD on Linux.
I'm familiar with standard MPEG2 format and burning but not HD MPEG4.. 


--
Joseph



Re[2]: [gentoo-user] liveusb not working

2009-04-17 Thread Sergey A. Kobzar
Friday, April 17, 2009, 10:21:04 PM, Valmor wrote:

 Sergey A. Kobzar wrote:

 
 I recently created LiveUSB stick with Gentoo follow instructions in
 the link above and using 
 http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/releases/x86/autobuilds/20090401/install-x86-minimal-20090401.iso
 ISO. It works nicely.
 
 

 Right; the minimal iso. Will give it a try later.

 BTW, I tried the whole thing again following the doc (using the livecd
 iso) and got:

 Missing operating system
 Operating system not found

This means:
1. You didn't copy MBR or boot loader to USB stick.
2. You boot from other device :)

Btw, did you set bootable flag for the partition with Gentoo?


 Thanks,

 --
 Valmor




-- 
Sergey




Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anybody have any links, instructions, information etc. on how to burn
 HD video MPEG4 to DVD?
 I want to be able to play HD on TV and I don't want to reduce the quality.

 Do I need Blue-Ray dvd recorder to be able to play HD recording? Can
 standard DVD play HD mpeg4 files? I have new camera that records HD
 (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files are below 3GB; is there a way to burn
 them into standard DVD on Linux.
 I'm familiar with standard MPEG2 format and burning but not HD MPEG4..

I confused when you say DVD if you mean DVD physical media or DVD format video.

If you want to convert to a normal DVD format there are plenty of
tools for that. My favorite is tovid.

f you want to burn Blu-Ray data files into DVD media, I guess just
build the Blu-Ray image and burn it. Same way you can burn DVD images
to CD if they are small enough. I have no idea if that'll work, but
that's what I would try. (I've never seen a Blu-Ray disc before so i
have no idea...)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Does -Wl,--hash-style=gnu need a full world rebuild?

2009-04-17 Thread Jorge Morais
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:57:37 -0400
ABCD en.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Jorge Morais wrote:
  I want these two flags (--as-needed and --hash-style=gnu) to be active
  before I adopt GCC 4.3 and recompile world.
 
 Just as an FYI, you do not need to rebuild the world when you upgrade
 GCC - the only time this was needed was around the GCC 3.3 to 3.4
 transition, because of a one-time ABI breakage.
 
  By the way, binaries linked with --as-needed are compatible with binaries
  linked without it, yes?
  
 
 The --as-needed flag simply tells the linker to be more selective about
 which libraries to link against -- it does not change anything about the
 format, etc. of the library itself (to be precise, using --as-needed
 will cause only the NEEDED entries that are actually needed to be
 emitted to the final binary).  So, to answer your question, yes, they
 are perfectly compatible with each other.
From http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml#doc_chap2

Note: While applying patches to libraries to fix --as-needed support, it is 
usually not the case to apply a revision bump: those who don't want to use the 
flag don't need to rebuild the library. For this reason, those who want to use 
--as-needed are invited to run an emerge -e world so that libraries are 
rebuilt. 


This suggests that, to be safe, I should activate --as-needed only *after*
the next world compilation.

-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free. --Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/17/09 15:03, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

Does anybody have any links, instructions, information etc. on how to burn
HD video MPEG4 to DVD?
I want to be able to play HD on TV and I don't want to reduce the quality.

Do I need Blue-Ray dvd recorder to be able to play HD recording? Can
standard DVD play HD mpeg4 files? I have new camera that records HD
(1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files are below 3GB; is there a way to burn
them into standard DVD on Linux.
I'm familiar with standard MPEG2 format and burning but not HD MPEG4..


I confused when you say DVD if you mean DVD physical media or DVD format video.

If you want to convert to a normal DVD format there are plenty of
tools for that. My favorite is tovid.

f you want to burn Blu-Ray data files into DVD media, I guess just
build the Blu-Ray image and burn it. Same way you can burn DVD images
to CD if they are small enough. I have no idea if that'll work, but
that's what I would try. (I've never seen a Blu-Ray disc before so i
have no idea...)


I had in mind DVD physical media. I want to retain the HD format quality. 
Do you mean burning standard .mpg4 file into DVD?  
That is what I wanted to try but I doubt standard DVD will play it, and if it will what resolution will it be in?


Thanks for the link I'll check it out.

--
Joseph



[gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

   I've also tried upgrading xorg-x11 to version 7.4. No changes.

m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $ xine
This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5.
(c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
 Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo)
 Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
 Serial number of failed request:  1814
 Current serial number in output stream:  1815
m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $

  Note that this isn't even trying to play the file, it's just trying
to start the user interface.

  I see segfault and error/warning messages in dmesg:

mtrr: no MTRR for f000,800 found
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
X[22596]: segfault at 0 ip  sp bf91df1c error 4 in Xorg[8048000+179000]
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
X[22764]: segfault at 2d8 ip b7f266c4 sp bfd56a80 error 4 in
libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0[b7f25000+7000]
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
[drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5

   The MTRR warnings have been around forever on this machine. I think
the drm:i915 warning is benign in that it's supposedly saying the
kernel doesn't have gem support, but I could be very wrong about that.

   The kernel is recent but not the most up to date.

   Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

   I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

   Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/17/09 15:03, Paul Hartman wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any links, instructions, information etc. on how to
 burn
 HD video MPEG4 to DVD?
 I want to be able to play HD on TV and I don't want to reduce the
 quality.

 Do I need Blue-Ray dvd recorder to be able to play HD recording? Can
 standard DVD play HD mpeg4 files? I have new camera that records HD
 (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files are below 3GB; is there a way to
 burn
 them into standard DVD on Linux.
 I'm familiar with standard MPEG2 format and burning but not HD MPEG4..

 I confused when you say DVD if you mean DVD physical media or DVD format
 video.

 If you want to convert to a normal DVD format there are plenty of
 tools for that. My favorite is tovid.

 f you want to burn Blu-Ray data files into DVD media, I guess just
 build the Blu-Ray image and burn it. Same way you can burn DVD images
 to CD if they are small enough. I have no idea if that'll work, but
 that's what I would try. (I've never seen a Blu-Ray disc before so i
 have no idea...)

 I had in mind DVD physical media. I want to retain the HD format quality. Do
 you mean burning standard .mpg4 file into DVD?  That is what I wanted to try
 but I doubt standard DVD will play it, and if it will what resolution will
 it be in?

 Thanks for the link I'll check it out.

Well if you just want to play it on the computer then the format
doesn't matter (as long as the mplayer or whatever you use can play
it). It's just a data disc.

If you want to watch it on an actual Blu-Ray player then it'll need to
be authored and mastered in the apporpriate way. I think they are
*.EVO files in some special directory structure (similar to DVD
video). Also, they use UDF 2.5 for the filesystem.

Blu-Ray has lots of DRM and commercial licensing requirements to make
a player, so legality is questionable :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 17 April 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

I've also tried upgrading xorg-x11 to version 7.4. No changes.

 m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $ xine
 This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5.
 (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
 X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
  Serial number of failed request:  1814
  Current serial number in output stream:  1815
 m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $

   Note that this isn't even trying to play the file, it's just trying
 to start the user interface.

   I see segfault and error/warning messages in dmesg:

 mtrr: no MTRR for f000,800 found
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 X[22596]: segfault at 0 ip  sp bf91df1c error 4 in
 Xorg[8048000+179000] [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 X[22764]: segfault at 2d8 ip b7f266c4 sp bfd56a80 error 4 in
 libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0[b7f25000+7000]
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5

The MTRR warnings have been around forever on this machine. I think
 the drm:i915 warning is benign in that it's supposedly saying the
 kernel doesn't have gem support, but I could be very wrong about that.

The kernel is recent but not the most up to date.

Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark

have you rebuilt libxv?
what happens if you don't use xv but xshm as output plugin?




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : the undead has been killed

2009-04-17 Thread Jorge Morais
 On Monday 13 April 2009 20:49:44 Philip Webb wrote:
  090413 Philip Webb wrote:
   I've found out how to fix it: something is starting Plasma,
   so Htop to the rescue ! -- kill Plasma  the hideous mask is removed
   -- it appears at the very end of the KDE start-up process --
the handsome KDE 3 desktop backgrounds reappear
   together with the desktop menus called up by mouse clicks.
 
  I didn't find out what was starting Plasma, but I fixed it :
  'cd /usr/bin; mv plasma plasma-aside'.  back to normal !
  (clutches garlic, crucifix, incense ... )
 
 Why invoke the supernatural when common logic is so superior?
 
 emerge -C plasma
 emerge --depclean
 
Is it a good idea to tell people to run emerge -C?
emerge --depc atom is dependency-aware.

-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free. --Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

Option AccelMethod XAA

If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
try turning it off.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : the undead has been killed

2009-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 17 April 2009 23:21:19 Jorge Morais wrote:
  On Monday 13 April 2009 20:49:44 Philip Webb wrote:
   090413 Philip Webb wrote:
I've found out how to fix it: something is starting Plasma,
so Htop to the rescue ! -- kill Plasma  the hideous mask is removed
-- it appears at the very end of the KDE start-up process --
 the handsome KDE 3 desktop backgrounds reappear
together with the desktop menus called up by mouse clicks.
  
   I didn't find out what was starting Plasma, but I fixed it :
   'cd /usr/bin; mv plasma plasma-aside'.  back to normal !
   (clutches garlic, crucifix, incense ... )
 
  Why invoke the supernatural when common logic is so superior?
 
  emerge -C plasma
  emerge --depclean

 Is it a good idea to tell people to run emerge -C?
 emerge --depc atom is dependency-aware.

The OP downgraded from kde-4 back to kde-3

He should not have had plasma at all anymore, but it got left behind in error 
and something was starting it. So he needed to get rid of it, and emerge -C 
followed by --depclean really is the ideal method,

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

 It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
 different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
 device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

 Option AccelMethod XAA

 If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

 Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
 try turning it off.

Right now I don't have an xorg.conf file as the new xorg upgrade guide
encourages you to dump it. I'm not overly comfortable with that and
will likely try creating a new xorg or using my old one later. I'll
try your idea as soon as I get to that.

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Freitag 17 April 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Hi,
    This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

    I've also tried upgrading xorg-x11 to version 7.4. No changes.

 m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $ xine
 This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.99.5.
 (c) 2000-2007 The xine Team.
 X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  140 (XVideo)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 ()
  Serial number of failed request:  1814
  Current serial number in output stream:  1815
 m...@dragonfly ~/Desktop $

   Note that this isn't even trying to play the file, it's just trying
 to start the user interface.

   I see segfault and error/warning messages in dmesg:

 mtrr: no MTRR for f000,800 found
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 X[22596]: segfault at 0 ip  sp bf91df1c error 4 in
 Xorg[8048000+179000] [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 X[22764]: segfault at 2d8 ip b7f266c4 sp bfd56a80 error 4 in
 libdrm_intel.so.1.0.0[b7f25000+7000]
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5
 [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 5

    The MTRR warnings have been around forever on this machine. I think
 the drm:i915 warning is benign in that it's supposedly saying the
 kernel doesn't have gem support, but I could be very wrong about that.

    The kernel is recent but not the most up to date.

    Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

    I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

    Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark

 have you rebuilt libxv?
 what happens if you don't use xv but xshm as output plugin?



Hi Volker,

The machine is clean emerge -DuN world, revdep-rebuild. As a test I
just rebuilt libXv and libXvMC but it still crashes.

dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv1 libXv libXvMC

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXv-1.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXvMC-1.0.4  USE=-debug 0 kB

Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #

Other mplayer formats do not crash. I've tried x11, gl  gl2. They all
work fine. Only

mplayer File.avi

or

mplayer -vo xv FILE.avi

crash X so it seems to be an xv thing. This all used to work before
the upgrade. I'm going to move on to Paul's suggestion about using an
xorg.conf file and see if that helps.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:

Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark


   

I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
longer found.

To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I type.

Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
ideas.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 17 April 2009, Dale wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
  I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
  probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
  for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
  uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)
 
 I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.
 
 Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark

 I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
 version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
 multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
 compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
 at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
 crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
 longer found.

 To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
 things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
 saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
 you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
 compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I type.

 Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
 ideas.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

 Installed versions:  4.3.3-r2(4.3)!s(01:52:54 29.03.2009)(fortran mudflap 
multilib nls openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -gtk -
hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -
objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)  

are you sure its gcc and not the kernel you are using? 




Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:

    Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

    I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

    Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark




 I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
 version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
 multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
 compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
 at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
 crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
 longer found.

 To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
 things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
 saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
 you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
 compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I type.

 Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
 ideas.

 Dale


Dale,
   I have sort of been following that thread and it has been on my
mind. I currently do seem to be using 4.3.2 and I've wondered if that
requires a complete rebuild of the machine. I don't mind doing that
but I don't want to start down that path until I've exhausted all
other possibilities as it takes so much time. I'm pretty sure my
current kernel was compiled with 4.3.2 and X certainly was as I built
it this morning.

Thanks!

- Mark

dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
 [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
 [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
 [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
 [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
 [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
dragonfly ~ #
dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv gcc

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3  USE=fortran gcj gtk mudflap
nls openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc (-fixed-point)
(-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi (-multilib) -multislot (-n32)
(-n64) -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla 0 kB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
dragonfly ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Jorge Morais
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:43:35 -0600
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anybody have any links, instructions, information etc. on how to burn HD 
 video MPEG4 to DVD?
 I want to be able to play HD on TV and I don't want to reduce the quality.
 
 Do I need Blue-Ray dvd recorder to be able to play HD recording? 

 Can standard DVD play HD mpeg4 files?
I don't know, but I highly doubt that a DVD player can play a 1920x1080
file. The best way to be sure is to read the device manual.

 I have new camera that records HD (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files are 
 below 3GB; is there a way to burn them into standard DVD on Linux.
 I'm familiar with standard MPEG2 format and burning but not HD MPEG4.. 
Please provide more information.
I *assume* that you have a dvd-recorder driver in your computer
and a Blu-Ray player on top of your TV.

If that is the case,

1) I would try some blu-ray authoring tool; presumably, such a tool
would generate a .iso file intended to be recorded to a Blu-Ray media.
I would record that .iso to a DVD media. I guess it would work.
But to be sure it would work, I would
2) Read the device manual.

If you don't have a Blu-Ray player, but only a normal
DVD player, I think it is very unlikely you will be able to play
a 1920x1080 file with it.

-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free. --Linus Torvalds



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Freitag 17 April 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark
   
 I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
 version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
 multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
 compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
 at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
 crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
 longer found.

 To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
 things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
 saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
 you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
 compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I type.

 Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
 ideas.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 

  Installed versions:  4.3.3-r2(4.3)!s(01:52:54 29.03.2009)(fortran 
 mudflap 
 multilib nls openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -gtk -
 hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -
 objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)  

 are you sure its gcc and not the kernel you are using? 



   

Yep, as soon as I switched back and recompiled things, they started
working again.  So far, things are getting back to normal and I am about
half way though my emerge -ev world.  I am booting the same kernel that
I have been using for over a year.  One reason I have not upgraded my
kernel is the fact that gcc wouldn't compile a stable kernel.  It would
either error during the compile or things would not work even tho it
should.  Most of the time it would not finish a compile.

This may not be your problem but given what I have been through, I
thought it worth a mention.  If you run out of other ideas, switch back
to a older gcc then emerge -ev mythtv or whatever you need to do to test
this theory.  If that fixes it, then we know that gcc 4.3 has a issue
somewhere.

I hope you get it fixed either way.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/17/09 16:04, Paul Hartman wrote:
[snip]

Well if you just want to play it on the computer then the format
doesn't matter (as long as the mplayer or whatever you use can play
it). It's just a data disc.


I want to play it on larger screen TV (it supports all latest formats). 
I don't have (yet) Blu-Ray player and I don't think it is possible to play HD mp4 files on any DVD player, is it?



If you want to watch it on an actual Blu-Ray player then it'll need to
be authored and mastered in the apporpriate way. I think they are
*.EVO files in some special directory structure (similar to DVD
video). Also, they use UDF 2.5 for the filesystem.

Blu-Ray has lots of DRM and commercial licensing requirements to make
a player, so legality is questionable :)


That is why I can barely find anything on how to encode the HD mpeg4 files onto a disk.  I can make UDF file system on a standard re-writetable DVD-RW (have 
done it many times) my only question is the encoding format/structure.  I think I need Blu-Ray burner, don't I? 


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark



   
 I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
 version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
 multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
 compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
 at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
 crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
 longer found.

 To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
 things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
 saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
 you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
 compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I type.

 Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
 ideas.

 Dale

 

 Dale,
I have sort of been following that thread and it has been on my
 mind. I currently do seem to be using 4.3.2 and I've wondered if that
 requires a complete rebuild of the machine. I don't mind doing that
 but I don't want to start down that path until I've exhausted all
 other possibilities as it takes so much time. I'm pretty sure my
 current kernel was compiled with 4.3.2 and X certainly was as I built
 it this morning.

 Thanks!

 - Mark

 dragonfly ~ # gcc-config -l
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.3
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp
  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 *
 dragonfly ~ #
 dragonfly ~ # emerge -pv gcc

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-4.3.2-r3  USE=fortran gcj gtk mudflap
 nls openmp (-altivec) -bootstrap -build -doc (-fixed-point)
 (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi (-multilib) -multislot (-n32)
 (-n64) -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla 0 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
 dragonfly ~ #


   

I can't say with 100% certainty that this is gcc but I'm 99% sure it is
in my case.  I switched to gcc 4.3 and things just got weird.  Kernels
wouldn't compile, my sound quit working, my USB ports went belly up and
things started crashing.  Seamonkey was one of them.  That started out
on a specific site but then just started crashing even when I was doing
nothing at all.  I would come back and it would be gone.  Then Kmix,
alsamixer wouldn't open any more and a few other weird things.

I'm half way though my emerge -ev world and I can tell you things are a
lot better.  I have not changed any configs, changed kernels or anything
else, just switched back to the old gcc and started a emerge -e world. 

I would exhaust everything else but you may want to keep this in the
back of your mind just in case.  My gcc info:

r...@smoker / # gcc-config -l
 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *
 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2
r...@smoker / #

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

 It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
 different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
 device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

 Option AccelMethod XAA

 If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

 Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
 try turning it off.

 Right now I don't have an xorg.conf file as the new xorg upgrade guide
 encourages you to dump it. I'm not overly comfortable with that and
 will likely try creating a new xorg or using my old one later. I'll
 try your idea as soon as I get to that.

I'm not sure if video device options such as AccelMethod can be set
via FDI... I think they may still belong in xorg.conf, just not input
devices. I have nothing but the video device options in my xorg.conf
:)

Also as someone suggested in a similar thread recently, maybe give
driconf a try as well.



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 18 April 2009, Dale wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Freitag 17 April 2009, Dale wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
 Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
  I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
  probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
  for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
  uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)
 
 I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.
 
 Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
  I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
  version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
  multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
  compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
  at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
  crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
  longer found.
 
  To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
  things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
  saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
  you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
  compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I
  type.
 
  Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
  ideas.
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)
 
   Installed versions:  4.3.3-r2(4.3)!s(01:52:54 29.03.2009)(fortran
  mudflap multilib nls openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point
  -gcj -gtk - hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx
  -nopie -objc - objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
 
  are you sure its gcc and not the kernel you are using?

 Yep, as soon as I switched back and recompiled things, they started
 working again.  So far, things are getting back to normal and I am about
 half way though my emerge -ev world.  I am booting the same kernel that
 I have been using for over a year.  One reason I have not upgraded my
 kernel is the fact that gcc wouldn't compile a stable kernel.  It would
 either error during the compile or things would not work even tho it
 should.  Most of the time it would not finish a compile.

 This may not be your problem but given what I have been through, I
 thought it worth a mention.  If you run out of other ideas, switch back
 to a older gcc then emerge -ev mythtv or whatever you need to do to test
 this theory.  If that fixes it, then we know that gcc 4.3 has a issue
 somewhere.

 I hope you get it fixed either way.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

I don't have problems. In fact, gcc4.3 worked very fine for me - but I also do 
not use acient kernels or software from the stone ages of programing (aka 2008 
;) )




Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Samstag 18 April 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
 On Freitag 17 April 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
 I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
 probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
 for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
 uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)

I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.

Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.

 Cheers,
 Mark
   
 I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but what
 version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am having
 multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel of if it
 compiles some things don't work, sound for example.  Seamonkey crashes
 at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the new xorg-server
 crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which are USB, were no
 longer found.

 To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world.  As
 things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal.  I'm not
 saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to consider if
 you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is back, I can
 compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being compiled as I
 type.

 Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of other
 ideas.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 
  Installed versions:  4.3.3-r2(4.3)!s(01:52:54 29.03.2009)(fortran
 mudflap multilib nls openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point
 -gcj -gtk - hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx
 -nopie -objc - objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)

 are you sure its gcc and not the kernel you are using?
   
 Yep, as soon as I switched back and recompiled things, they started
 working again.  So far, things are getting back to normal and I am about
 half way though my emerge -ev world.  I am booting the same kernel that
 I have been using for over a year.  One reason I have not upgraded my
 kernel is the fact that gcc wouldn't compile a stable kernel.  It would
 either error during the compile or things would not work even tho it
 should.  Most of the time it would not finish a compile.

 This may not be your problem but given what I have been through, I
 thought it worth a mention.  If you run out of other ideas, switch back
 to a older gcc then emerge -ev mythtv or whatever you need to do to test
 this theory.  If that fixes it, then we know that gcc 4.3 has a issue
 somewhere.

 I hope you get it fixed either way.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 

 I don't have problems. In fact, gcc4.3 worked very fine for me - but I also 
 do 
 not use acient kernels or software from the stone ages of programing (aka 
 2008 
 ;) )



   

Well, the kernel that would not compile is a gentoo-sources-2.6.29-r1, I
also tried gentoo-sources-2.6.29, gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r2 and
gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r7.  I don't think those are that old.  I run
mostly stable with only a few exceptions.  I wouldn't call that the
stone age.  After all, 2008 was only a few months ago.

If it works for you, great.  Point of my reply was that it is not
working here for me.  I'm not dreaming, I am as sure of that as anything
else on this machine.  I even tested it with a CD to make sure my
hardware was good.  It is, gcc 4.3 appears not to be.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/17/09 16:04, Paul Hartman wrote:
 [snip]

 Well if you just want to play it on the computer then the format
 doesn't matter (as long as the mplayer or whatever you use can play
 it). It's just a data disc.

 I want to play it on larger screen TV (it supports all latest formats). I
 don't have (yet) Blu-Ray player and I don't think it is possible to play HD
 mp4 files on any DVD player, is it?

No, a DVD video player can only play DVDs (and sometimes VCDs which
are even worse quality than DVD). If they could play HD then Blu-Ray
would have no reason to exist :) While some DVD players can output a
720p/1080i/1080p picture, it is simple scaling the lower-resolution
720 × 576 (or whatever the DVD is) image to that size and applying
some filters to make it look better (in theory).

The only way to play the HD content on your TV is to hook a computer
up to it or get a media player capable of playing HD content. Or
figure out how to author and master Blu-Ray discs and get a Blu-Ray
player.

 If you want to watch it on an actual Blu-Ray player then it'll need to
 be authored and mastered in the apporpriate way. I think they are
 *.EVO files in some special directory structure (similar to DVD
 video). Also, they use UDF 2.5 for the filesystem.

 Blu-Ray has lots of DRM and commercial licensing requirements to make
 a player, so legality is questionable :)

 That is why I can barely find anything on how to encode the HD mpeg4 files
 onto a disk.  I can make UDF file system on a standard re-writetable DVD-RW
 (have done it many times) my only question is the encoding format/structure.
  I think I need Blu-Ray burner, don't I?

I think generally the answer is You have to use windows to author
Blu-Ray movies... because of the licensing etc. but I haven't ever
tried so I could be wrong.



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 18 April 2009, Dale wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Samstag 18 April 2009, Dale wrote:
  Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  On Freitag 17 April 2009, Dale wrote:
  Mark Knecht wrote:
 Does *anyone* have an idea what I should do to debug this further?
  I've never managed to get good backtrace info under Gentoo so that's
  probably a struggle I'd rather not deal with if possible, especially
  for something as complicated as X. The segfault looks like something
  uninitialized to me but what do I know... (Not much!)
 
 I can send all sorts of machine/Gentoo info if requested.
 
 Anyway, all thoughts appreciated.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark
 
  I don't know if you have been following my recent thread or not but
  what version of gcc are you using?  I was using gcc 4.3 and I am
  having multiple issues with a lot of things.  I can't compile a kernel
  of if it compiles some things don't work, sound for example. 
  Seamonkey crashes at times for no reason.  I also had trouble with the
  new xorg-server crashing with me.   Also, my camera and printer, which
  are USB, were no longer found.
 
  To fix this, I went back to gcc 4.1 and started a emerge -ev world. 
  As things are being recompiled, things are getting back to normal. 
  I'm not saying this will fix your issue but it may be something to
  consider if you are using gcc 4.3.  So far, my camera and printer is
  back, I can compile a kernel with no errors and Seamonkey is being
  compiled as I type.
 
  Just something for you to ponder.  Maybe when you have ran out of
  other ideas.
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)
 
   Installed versions:  4.3.3-r2(4.3)!s(01:52:54 29.03.2009)(fortran
  mudflap multilib nls openmp -altivec -bootstrap -build -doc
  -fixed-point -gcj -gtk - hardened -ip28 -ip32r10k -libffi -multislot
  -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc - objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
 
  are you sure its gcc and not the kernel you are using?
 
  Yep, as soon as I switched back and recompiled things, they started
  working again.  So far, things are getting back to normal and I am about
  half way though my emerge -ev world.  I am booting the same kernel that
  I have been using for over a year.  One reason I have not upgraded my
  kernel is the fact that gcc wouldn't compile a stable kernel.  It would
  either error during the compile or things would not work even tho it
  should.  Most of the time it would not finish a compile.
 
  This may not be your problem but given what I have been through, I
  thought it worth a mention.  If you run out of other ideas, switch back
  to a older gcc then emerge -ev mythtv or whatever you need to do to test
  this theory.  If that fixes it, then we know that gcc 4.3 has a issue
  somewhere.
 
  I hope you get it fixed either way.
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)
 
  I don't have problems. In fact, gcc4.3 worked very fine for me - but I
  also do not use acient kernels or software from the stone ages of
  programing (aka 2008 ;) )

 Well, the kernel that would not compile is a gentoo-sources-2.6.29-r1, I
 also tried gentoo-sources-2.6.29, gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r2 and
 gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r7.  I don't think those are that old.  I run
 mostly stable with only a few exceptions.  I wouldn't call that the
 stone age.  After all, 2008 was only a few months ago.

 If it works for you, great.  Point of my reply was that it is not
 working here for me.  I'm not dreaming, I am as sure of that as anything
 else on this machine.  I even tested it with a CD to make sure my
 hardware was good.  It is, gcc 4.3 appears not to be.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

and have you ever tried a kernel without stupid patches - aka vanilla sources?




Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

 It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
 different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
 device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

 Option AccelMethod XAA

 If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

 Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
 try turning it off.



OK, I tried XAA and EXA. I see evidence in Xorg.0.log that they are
each recognized but both ways I'm still crashing X.

This is very disappointing, but at least I can run mplayer on this
machine if I remember to set the decoder type.

Our emails are crossing in the ether. I'm building driconf now and
will see what I can do with that. I'm not sure what to try. driconf
doesn't seem very happy. It cannot find glxinfo, and I just found out
that glxgears is no longer on the system. Did that change with
xorg-7.4 or do I need to re-emerge something? I cannot remember.

Anyway, I'll keep plugging away at this. Thanks for the idea on driconf.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Samstag 18 April 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
   
 I don't have problems. In fact, gcc4.3 worked very fine for me - but I
 also do not use acient kernels or software from the stone ages of
 programing (aka 2008 ;) )
   
 Well, the kernel that would not compile is a gentoo-sources-2.6.29-r1, I
 also tried gentoo-sources-2.6.29, gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r2 and
 gentoo-sources-2.6.27-r7.  I don't think those are that old.  I run
 mostly stable with only a few exceptions.  I wouldn't call that the
 stone age.  After all, 2008 was only a few months ago.

 If it works for you, great.  Point of my reply was that it is not
 working here for me.  I'm not dreaming, I am as sure of that as anything
 else on this machine.  I even tested it with a CD to make sure my
 hardware was good.  It is, gcc 4.3 appears not to be.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 

 and have you ever tried a kernel without stupid patches - aka vanilla sources?



   

Nope, never had a reason to.  Thing is, they compile just fine with gcc
4.1 so why should I try that?  It doesn't compile or work with gcc 4.3
but does compile and work with gcc 4.1.  That along with everything else
tells me that at least on this rig, gcc 4.3 has a problem.  NOTHING
changed except for the compiler.  No configs, not my make.conf, not
anything.  Not even the version of software changed.  I switched to gcc
4.1 and things are getting back to normal. 

This isn't just a kernel problem.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

 It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
 different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
 device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

 Option AccelMethod XAA

 If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

 Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
 try turning it off.



 OK, I tried XAA and EXA. I see evidence in Xorg.0.log that they are
 each recognized but both ways I'm still crashing X.

 This is very disappointing, but at least I can run mplayer on this
 machine if I remember to set the decoder type.

 Our emails are crossing in the ether. I'm building driconf now and
 will see what I can do with that. I'm not sure what to try. driconf
 doesn't seem very happy. It cannot find glxinfo, and I just found out
 that glxgears is no longer on the system. Did that change with
 xorg-7.4 or do I need to re-emerge something? I cannot remember.

 Anyway, I'll keep plugging away at this. Thanks for the idea on driconf.

Could it be you don't have mesa-progs installed? (Or perhaps even mesa itself?)



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/17/09 18:01, Paul Hartman wrote:
[snip]

No, a DVD video player can only play DVDs (and sometimes VCDs which
are even worse quality than DVD). If they could play HD then Blu-Ray
would have no reason to exist :) While some DVD players can output a
720p/1080i/1080p picture, it is simple scaling the lower-resolution
720 ? 576 (or whatever the DVD is) image to that size and applying
some filters to make it look better (in theory).

The only way to play the HD content on your TV is to hook a computer
up to it or get a media player capable of playing HD content. Or
figure out how to author and master Blu-Ray discs and get a Blu-Ray
player.


I don't think hooking up computer would help.
When I try to play HD MP4 (file that I recorded) in Xine it complains that CPU is not fast enough - it keeps complaining that amount of frames is too high 
(60-fields/s) and that is on my: Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz 
Though, Xine only plays utilizing single CPU, it can not utilize all four cpu's 


[snip


I think generally the answer is You have to use windows to author
Blu-Ray movies... because of the licensing etc. but I haven't ever
tried so I could be wrong.


I have to find a way to author Blu-Ray onto blu-ray disk but will take some time (if not years) as there aren't many blu-ray disk recorders for computers not 
to mention Linux :-/ And by the time it happens my camera will be obsolete. 


--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Dale said:

 Do you have any of the following running on your system?
 
 consolekit
 cupsd
 hald

Nope. I'm going to try logging out, shutting dbus down and logging back in and
see if something starts it.

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein


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Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Stroller


On 17 Apr 2009, at 20:43, Joseph wrote:
... I have new camera that records HD (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most  
files are below 3GB;


Assuming videos of your dog / cat / children you're probably best  
storing the original video files on hard-disk, burning as a DVD at  
standard definitions (720x480 or 720x576) and enjoying the movies like  
that for the meantime. I would revisit hi-def video disks in 5 years  
time, when more tools are available, when you have a living-room  
player that will cope with 1920x1080 and when hi-def disks are cheap.  
You _may_ be able to record blu-ray format onto DVD, but since you  
couldn't playback such a disk yourself, why bother? Many viewers are  
unable to distinguish between DVD  blu-ray.


Watch out for framerate issues - you should probably be capturing at  
the correct framerate for your output format, as conversion between  
framerates is problematic (lossy).


Stroller.





Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 Alan McKinnon said:

 Do you have hal or dbus in world by mistake?

Nope.

 You have USE=-dbus -hal in make.conf, but what about 
 /etc/portage/package.use/?

No, not there.

Perhaps it was dragged in early on when I built xfce. I'm not sure I had -dbus
in there then. Still, an emerge with -newuse shows no changes. 

We'll see soon if it's really required.

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 ABCD said:

 What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
 usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

Cool, I didn't know that one. 

Nothing listed though.

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein


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Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Stroller


On 18 Apr 2009, at 01:40, Joseph wrote:

...
I don't think hooking up computer would help.
When I try to play HD MP4 (file that I recorded) in Xine it  
complains that CPU is not fast enough - it keeps complaining that  
amount of frames is too high (60-fields/s) and that is on my: Quad  
CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Though, Xine only plays utilizing single CPU, it  
can not utilize all four cpu's


Try mplayer - depending on file format it should be capable of playing  
back 1080p. If not, it should be able to convert to a less demanding  
container/codec which it will handle realtime.


Stroller.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 14/04/09 ABCD said:

 What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
 usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

 Cool, I didn't know that one.

 Nothing listed though.

 Mike

To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
depclean, like on mine I get this:

$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

Calculating dependencies ... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
app-misc/strigi-0.6.4
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.80
dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1
dev-util/monodevelop-2.0
dev-util/subversion-1.6.1
gnome-base/gconf-2.24.0
gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.3-r1
gnome-base/libbonobo-2.24.1
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.2.2
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.2-r1
media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.4
media-video/vlc-0.9.9a
net-dns/avahi-0.6.24-r2
net-ftp/filezilla-3.2.3.1
net-im/pidgin-2.5.5
net-misc/networkmanager-0.7.0
net-print/cups-1.3.10
net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.6.9
sys-apps/hwinfo-14.19
x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.0
x11-misc/google-gadgets-0.10.5
xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.0

so all of those packages explicitly depend on dbus and very likely
will want it to be running :)



Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Dale
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 On 14/04/09 Dale said:

   
 Do you have any of the following running on your system?

 consolekit
 cupsd
 hald
 

 Nope. I'm going to try logging out, shutting dbus down and logging back in and
 see if something starts it.

 Mike
   

Logging out and back in shouldn't start any services that I know of. 
That is done during the boot up process.  Maybe try posting the output
of these:

/etc/init.d/consolekit status
/etc/init.d/cupsd status
/etc/init.d/hald status

If one or more of those say they are started, they should be starting
dbus since they need dbus to work correctly, if you have dbus enabled in
your USE flag.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/18/09 01:50, Stroller wrote:


On 18 Apr 2009, at 01:40, Joseph wrote:

...
I don't think hooking up computer would help.
When I try to play HD MP4 (file that I recorded) in Xine it complains that 
CPU is not fast enough - it keeps complaining that amount of frames is too 
high (60-fields/s) and that is on my: Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Though, 
Xine only plays utilizing single CPU, it can not utilize all four cpu's


Try mplayer - depending on file format it should be capable of playing back 
1080p. If not, it should be able to convert to a less demanding 
container/codec which it will handle realtime.


Stroller.


mplayer - is not much better :-/


[h264 @ 0xb5c400]AVC: Consumed only 45657 bytes instead of 45660
[h264 @ 0xb5c400]AVC: Consumed only 25265 bytes instead of 252687 0 52%
[h264 @ 0xb5c400]AVC: Consumed only 45152 bytes instead of 451569 0 52%

   
    Your system is too SLOW to play this!  
   

Possible reasons, problems, workarounds:
- Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver
  - Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA.
  - Experiment with different values for -autosync, 30 is a good start.
- Slow video output
  - Try a different -vo driver (-vo help for a list) or try -framedrop!
- Slow CPU
  - Don't try to play a big DVD/DivX on a slow CPU! Try some of the lavdopts,
e.g. -vfm ffmpeg -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all.
- Broken file
  - Try various combinations of -nobps -ni -forceidx -mc 0.
- Slow media (NFS/SMB mounts, DVD, VCD etc)
  - Try -cache 8192.
- Are you using -cache to play a non-interleaved AVI file?
  - Try -nocache.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/18/09 01:47, Stroller wrote:


On 17 Apr 2009, at 20:43, Joseph wrote:
... I have new camera that records HD (1920x1080) mpeg4 movies, most files 
are below 3GB;


Assuming videos of your dog / cat / children you're probably best storing 
the original video files on hard-disk, burning as a DVD at standard 
definitions (720x480 or 720x576) and enjoying the movies like that for the 
meantime. I would revisit hi-def video disks in 5 years time, when more 
tools are available, when you have a living-room player that will cope with 
1920x1080 and when hi-def disks are cheap. You _may_ be able to record 
blu-ray format onto DVD, but since you couldn't playback such a disk 
yourself, why bother? Many viewers are unable to distinguish between DVD  
blu-ray.


Watch out for framerate issues - you should probably be capturing at the 
correct framerate for your output format, as conversion between framerates 
is problematic (lossy).


Stroller.


I think that the most sensible advice :-)

I can convert current HD mp4's for storage a DVD:

mkisofs -o foobar.iso foobar.mpg4
cdrecord -v dev=/dev/dvd foobar.iso

though, I'll not be able to play them on any DVD.
For current usage I just convert them to standard DVD:

ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg # convert to mpeg2
dvdauthor -t -o foobar foobar.mpg # author the file
dvdauthor -T -o foobar

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/17/09 19:41, Joseph wrote:

For current usage I just convert them to standard DVD:

ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg # convert to mpeg2
dvdauthor -t -o foobar foobar.mpg # author the file
dvdauthor -T -o foobar


Well:
ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg
is not working wery well, a lot of errors:


[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 38533 bytes instead of 38540
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 36229 bytes instead of 36236
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 25207 bytes instead of 25212
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 25061 bytes instead of 25068
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 25166 bytes instead of 25172
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 42910 bytes instead of 42916
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 25608 bytes instead of 25612
[h264 @ 0x62b1a0]AVC: Consumed only 25871 bytes instead of 25876
Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1


it converted the file but there is no voice.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
 depclean, like on mine I get this:
 
 $ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv   
Password: 

Calculating dependencies... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76

Repeating...

msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dev-libs/dbus-glib -pv

Calculating dependencies... done!
  dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76 pulled in by:
media-gfx/ristretto-0.0.21
media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.5.1-r3
media-sound/audacious-1.5.1-r1
xfce-base/thunar-0.9.3
xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.4.3

Still odd since I have -dbus in my make.conf.

Mike


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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 17/04/09 Dale said:

 Logging out and back in shouldn't start any services that I know of. 

Well, dbus was running as me, not root, so it wasn't started at boot. I
suspect XFCE4 is starting it.

 That is done during the boot up process.  Maybe try posting the output
 of these:
 
 /etc/init.d/consolekit status
 /etc/init.d/cupsd status
 /etc/init.d/hald status

msoul...@anton:~$ ls /etc/init.d/{consolekit,cupsd,hald}
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/consolekit: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/cupsd: No such file or directory
ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/hald: No such file or directory

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein


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Re: [gentoo-user] Continued Xorg crashes

2009-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Paul Hartman
 paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
 This started as part of Michael's thread about Myth crashing.
 mythfrontend is segfaulting for me also, but my problem has spread to
 pretty much any application that tries to display video - mplayer,
 xine and Myth all crash with similar errors. Only xine doesn't crash X
 completely and leaves behind anything in terms of clues.

 It looks like maybe a problem with xv overlays. You can try using a
 different output driver than xv. Also, try adding AccelMethod to your
 device section in xorg.conf if you don't have it:

 Option AccelMethod XAA

 If that doesn't help, maybe try EXA instead of XAA.

 Also, if you're using anything like compiz of KDE4 desktop effects,
 try turning it off.



 OK, I tried XAA and EXA. I see evidence in Xorg.0.log that they are
 each recognized but both ways I'm still crashing X.

 This is very disappointing, but at least I can run mplayer on this
 machine if I remember to set the decoder type.

 Our emails are crossing in the ether. I'm building driconf now and
 will see what I can do with that. I'm not sure what to try. driconf
 doesn't seem very happy. It cannot find glxinfo, and I just found out
 that glxgears is no longer on the system. Did that change with
 xorg-7.4 or do I need to re-emerge something? I cannot remember.

 Anyway, I'll keep plugging away at this. Thanks for the idea on driconf.

 Could it be you don't have mesa-progs installed? (Or perhaps even mesa 
 itself?)


Yeah, it seems mesa-progs isn't installed which explains the lack of
glxgears. I guess that was jsut included by default with the old
server.

I do note that while I have xorg-x11-7.4 installed, I only have
mesa-7.3-r1, not 7.4. Are those intended to match up 1 for 1? Probably
doesn't matter...

Thanks,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
 depclean, like on mine I get this:

 $ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

 msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv
 Password:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76

 Repeating...

 msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dev-libs/dbus-glib -pv

 Calculating dependencies... done!
  dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76 pulled in by:
media-gfx/ristretto-0.0.21
media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.5.1-r3
media-sound/audacious-1.5.1-r1
xfce-base/thunar-0.9.3
xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.4.3

 Still odd since I have -dbus in my make.conf.

That only disabled dbus when it is optional. Since you have packages
that /require/ dbus (with no option to disable it), I guess that's
where it is coming from. Specifically it looks like XFCE.



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/17/09 19:41, Joseph wrote:

 For current usage I just convert them to standard DVD:

 ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg # convert to mpeg2
 dvdauthor -t -o foobar foobar.mpg # author the file
 dvdauthor -T -o foobar

 Well:
 ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg
 is not working wery well, a lot of errors:

I highly recommend checking out tovid, it will convert to proper dvd
mpeg format and maintain aspect ratios and all that... I've used it
for a long time without any issues.



Re: [gentoo-user] burning HD mpeg4 to dvd

2009-04-17 Thread Joseph

On 04/17/09 22:43, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

On 04/17/09 19:41, Joseph wrote:


For current usage I just convert them to standard DVD:

ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg # convert to mpeg2
dvdauthor -t -o foobar foobar.mpg # author the file
dvdauthor -T -o foobar


Well:
ffmpeg -i foobar.mpg4 -target ntsc-dvd foobar.mpg
is not working wery well, a lot of errors:


I highly recommend checking out tovid, it will convert to proper dvd
mpeg format and maintain aspect ratios and all that... I've used it
for a long time without any issues.


with tovid I got errors as well:

Error while decoding stream #0.1
Error while decoding stream #0.1
size=   0kB time=100.00 bitrate=   0.0kbits/s
video:0kB audio:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead nan%
[tovid]: Encode stopped, killing all sub processes
[tovid]: Keeping temporary files used during encoding in 
/home/joseph/foo_encoded.1
[tovid]: tovid encountered an error during encoding:
[tovid]: There was a problem with encoding the audio to ac3 format.

I think one of the package is missing codecs: mp4a avc1
but I can not figure out which one; as with transcode I get errors as well:

transcode -i sany0002_1.mp4 -M1 -y ffmpeg --export_prof dvd-ntsc --export_asr 2 
-o movie -D0 -m movie.ac3 -J modfps=clonetype=4 --export_fps 29.97
transcode v1.0.7 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. Bitterberg, 
2004-2008 Transcode Team
[codecs] Warning: Could not find audio Decoder for fourcc mp4a
[codecs] Warning: quicktime_decode_audio_stub called
[codecs] Warning: Could not find video Decoder for fourcc avc1
[codecs] Warning: quicktime_decode_video_stub called

Anybody has any idea which package I need to recompile to get codecs:  mp4a 
avc1 ?

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 That only disabled dbus when it is optional. Since you have packages
 that /require/ dbus (with no option to disable it), I guess that's
 where it is coming from. Specifically it looks like XFCE.

That would follow with it running as me instead of root. It's being started
when I login.

Mike
-- 
Michael P. Soulier msoul...@digitaltorque.ca
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
--Albert Einstein


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