Re: [gentoo-user] corefonts being depcleaned?

2010-05-20 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 19 May 2010, at 23:14, David W Noon wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:03 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] corefonts being depcleaned?: [snip] Yea, it has times, ariel and a few others that I use a lot so it has to stay. I was going to try without it but I use

[gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox

2010-05-20 Thread Chen Huan
Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and execute make modules_install, the message appears: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_open WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol

Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox

2010-05-20 Thread Dale
Chen Huan wrote: Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and execute make modules_install, the message appears: WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs unknown symbol drm_open WARNING: /lib/modules/2.6.33-gentoo-r2/misc/vboxvideo.ko needs

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 07:38:43AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 20 May 2010 06:34:37 Willie Wong wrote: Hi list, I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it generated a bit of interesting output that I haven't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote: Hi *, I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following problem: When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the

Re: [gentoo-user] corefonts being depcleaned?

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 05:35:40 Stroller wrote: On 19 May 2010, at 23:14, David W Noon wrote: On Wed, 19 May 2010 22:30:03 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] corefonts being depcleaned?: [snip] Yea, it has times, ariel and a few others that I use a lot so it has to stay.

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:05:57 Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 07:38:43AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 20 May 2010 06:34:37 Willie Wong wrote: Hi list, I ran 'eclean-dist' last night (with no additional arguments) to clean out /usr/portage/distfiles. And it

[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: On 05/19/2010 12:59 PM, Fabian Köster wrote: Hi *, I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following problem: When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC

Re: [gentoo-user] Some problems with virtualbox

2010-05-20 Thread Chen Huan
I checked the symlink, and it is pointed to the running kernel~~~ when I recompile the kernel with DRM support, all things back to normal.. 2010/5/20 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Chen Huan wrote: Hi everyone, after I installed virtualbox, when I compile the kernel and execute make

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Fabian Köster
I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short question and so I did away with it months ago. And I haven't regretted it. Truly, I think very few people need pulse outside of professionals who work in film or music. The main reason others have disagreed with my opinion is because

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to those packages is that their ebuilds are no-longer in the tree. Each one of those packages

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure

2010-05-20 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 19.05.2010 00:23, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: OK, but don't stop there. pam_mount really just ultimatively runs mount.crypt; and it tells you that it does by means of syslog (with enabled debug=1 of course). command: 'mount.crypt' '-ofsk Sorry, I don't see that in my logs (yep,

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 11:36:46 Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:20:54AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Ah... I see, I was trying to figure out what they meant by deprecated and how they determined it. It seems that the only thing common to those packages is that their ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 10:40:33 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/20/2010 11:15 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2010 23:56:39 walt wrote: [snip] Well, since I'm first to answer I get to inject my prejudices first :) I think pulse is a very long answer to a very short

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 20 May 2010 09:20:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: The root word it derives from basically means to make smaller or less important. Actually, in the Mother Tongue, it means to express disapproval of (I quote an Oxford English dictionary). It's not the same thing as depreciate or removed

Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups

2010-05-20 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick wrote: On Sunday 16 May 2010 02:56:23 Alex Schuster wrote: But my main problem is another one: How do I tell CUPS which device my printer is? I tried usb:/dev/usb/lp0 (found this notation when googling 'usb printer device uri'), but nothing happens when I try to print. This is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure

2010-05-20 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 20.05.2010 12:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 19.05.2010 00:23, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: OK, but don't stop there. pam_mount really just ultimatively runs mount.crypt; and it tells you that it does by means of syslog (with enabled debug=1 of course). command: 'mount.crypt'

Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Issue

2010-05-20 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:14 AM, CJoeB colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I had wireless working just fine back when I was using the 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 kernel. Since upgrading to the 2.6.30 series of kernels, I haven't been able to get it working. I was using the ipw3945 driver, but this

Re: [gentoo-user] Deprecated installed packages

2010-05-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 May 2010 14:07:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: The root word it derives from basically means to make smaller or less important. Actually, in the Mother Tongue, it means to express disapproval of (I quote an Oxford English dictionary). You quote one of the three definitions

[gentoo-user] nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Grant
I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: /var/tmp/portage/x11-base/nouveau-drm-20100316/work/master/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_drv.c: In function 'nouveau_pci_suspend':

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Like an earlier poster suggested, PulseAudio looks like a hammer in search of a nail. I have a bluetooth headset. I set it up with gnome-bluetooth, and with PulseAudio I can dynamically redirect the output in

[gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This driver is now in the kernel itself. nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the

[gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 08:32 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This driver is now in the kernel itself.

[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they work.

[gentoo-user] problem updating python

2010-05-20 Thread Rene Lopez Montelongo
Hi everyone I'm trying to install on a sparc architecture SUN Ultra45. At the time to install a new slot of python I got the this error... livecd elog # emerge -auv dev-lang/python These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:  Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as they work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: [snip (And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.) With just a few clicks, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 19:32:33 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/20/2010 07:56 PM, Grant wrote: I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place. This driver is now in the kernel

[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 09:44 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Don't even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the kernel. I don't care where they go

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Grant
I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place.  This driver is now in the kernel itself.  nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Grant
I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place.  This driver is now in the kernel itself.  nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Grant
I'm trying to compile nouveau-drm for my Nvidia 8400GS video card, but compilation fails: I don't think you should be using nouveau-drm in the first place.  This driver is now in the kernel itself.  nouveau-drm was used before that driver moved into the Linux kernel together with the other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Graham Murray
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not completely sure about the versions) Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm Hopefully it will be *very* temporary It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: [snip] What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually.  Too many problems with it. Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. If I may use (most of) your words: Well, it works here. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:21:27 Graham Murray wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not completely sure about the versions) Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm Hopefully it will be *very*

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 20 May 2010 21:25:36 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. If I may use (most of) your words: Well, it works here. It's been rock-solid

[gentoo-user] Layman, Git, ... and Http-Proxies

2010-05-20 Thread Petric Frank
Hello, i tried to use layman (current stable version). The problem ist that i sit behind a proxy server which covers the http(s) protocol only. All other ports are closed. In the config file of layman (/etc/layman/...) i entered the proxy server and the listening port. Then layman was able to

[gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 05/20/2010 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: [snip] What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it. Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any good. If I may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: Because as soon as you disable ALSA dmix and/or Pulse, suddenly you get acceptable sound latency. With OSS4, which has in-kernel mixing, it doesn't matter if you enable the mixer or disable it; sound always has

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Grant
There's an API break between the nouveau driver and the drm in 2.6.3[23] (not completely sure about the versions) Hence the workaround of nouveau-drm Hopefully it will be *very* temporary It is. 2.6.34 (which is in ~arch) fixes the API break with the Nouveau driver. Supposedly it's an

Re: [gentoo-user] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Jonathan
On Wed, 19 May 2010 21:59:08 +0200 Fabian Köster koesterre...@gmx.net wrote: Hi *, I am currently trying to use Phonon and PulseAudio and have the following problem: When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio

Re: [gentoo-user] problem updating python

2010-05-20 Thread Kaddeh
what is the output of eselect python list On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Rene Lopez Montelongo r...@redes.acatlan.unam.mx wrote: Hi everyone I'm trying to install on a sparc architecture SUN Ultra45. At the time to install a new slot of python I got the this error... livecd elog #

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem

2010-05-20 Thread Jonathan
Sorry, but I believe the you are the one being pretentious; how long has been since you tried PulseAudio? It has come a lng way, and I haven't seen any real flames against PulseAudio in many months (and it's enabled in all major distributions). And that is because it's working (I repeat my

Re: [gentoo-user] problem updating python

2010-05-20 Thread dan blum
The current Python version is at least 3.1. When I had an issue with an upgrade to version 3.1 from 2.6, my KDE and x crashed. When I reported this to Gentoo, I was told that this was not even a bug. My solution was to reload tho complete system. My guess that part of the problem may be that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nouveau-drm compile failure

2010-05-20 Thread Graham Murray
Grant emailgr...@gmail.com writes: Google says the error can be due to disabling dri in xorg.conf, but I don't have anything like that. Should CONFIG_DRM_NOUVEAU=y include the dri or dri2 module? The dri and dri2 modules should be installed by x11-base/xorg-server.